Comments on: Hishammuddin should explain why he is supporting the renewal of Musa Hassan as IGP who had led a losing war against crime despite trebling of police allocations to RM8 billion in 9th Malaysia Plan as compared to 8MP http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/13/hishammuddin-should-explain-why-he-is-supporting-the-renewal-of-musa-hassan-as-igp-when-the-latter-had-led-a-losing-war-against-crime-despite-trebling-of-police-allocations-to-rm8-billion-in-9th-malay/ for Malaysia Sun, 12 Feb 2012 13:28:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: SpeakUp http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/13/hishammuddin-should-explain-why-he-is-supporting-the-renewal-of-musa-hassan-as-igp-when-the-latter-had-led-a-losing-war-against-crime-despite-trebling-of-police-allocations-to-rm8-billion-in-9th-malay/comment-page-1/#comment-184646 SpeakUp Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:40:40 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=5115#comment-184646 Jeff ... what you said about crime is true, its not going to drop because we have a more efficient police force or more police officers. There are more factors than what we see. To be frank, police are also over worked and underpaid. Malaysians are also too much into crime. That is a fact. Just walk into major shopping malls. Look at those little push carts. RM8K a month rental, but selling trinkets? Its called MONEY LAUNDERING. Back in circa 1998-2002 FENG TAU clubs we re flourishing not because the police told the gangsters to do it BUT the Malaysian gangsters decided to do it. So many patrons were happy to purchase it. I have friends who still purchase undeclared ciggies. People are still happy to go to those HEALTH CENTERS. Come on, so many of you here are still buying those pirate DVDs. That is all part of the crime scene. Jeff … what you said about crime is true, its not going to drop because we have a more efficient police force or more police officers. There are more factors than what we see.

To be frank, police are also over worked and underpaid. Malaysians are also too much into crime. That is a fact.

Just walk into major shopping malls. Look at those little push carts. RM8K a month rental, but selling trinkets? Its called MONEY LAUNDERING.

Back in circa 1998-2002 FENG TAU clubs we re flourishing not because the police told the gangsters to do it BUT the Malaysian gangsters decided to do it. So many patrons were happy to purchase it.

I have friends who still purchase undeclared ciggies. People are still happy to go to those HEALTH CENTERS. Come on, so many of you here are still buying those pirate DVDs. That is all part of the crime scene.

]]> By: Jeffrey http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/13/hishammuddin-should-explain-why-he-is-supporting-the-renewal-of-musa-hassan-as-igp-when-the-latter-had-led-a-losing-war-against-crime-despite-trebling-of-police-allocations-to-rm8-billion-in-9th-malay/comment-page-1/#comment-184640 Jeffrey Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:50:19 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=5115#comment-184640 Can verify this with some of personnel of Malaysian plantation company Kulim (Malaysia) Bhd which operates plantations there. Can verify this with some of personnel of Malaysian plantation company Kulim (Malaysia) Bhd which operates plantations there.

]]> By: Jeffrey http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/13/hishammuddin-should-explain-why-he-is-supporting-the-renewal-of-musa-hassan-as-igp-when-the-latter-had-led-a-losing-war-against-crime-despite-trebling-of-police-allocations-to-rm8-billion-in-9th-malay/comment-page-1/#comment-184639 Jeffrey Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:44:04 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=5115#comment-184639 sorry out of topic, I have just met some Malaysians coming back from Papua New Guinea - now that place, with its poverty, poor healthcare and rampant gang culture - must surely rank one of the highest crime places on this planet. Sacked how many police, also no result. Better off people live 24 hour controlled access gate, high "electrified" fences, when they come out they bring about 100 kina (RM200) to pay whenever robbed by knife or gun wielding thugs. It seems a form of culture there (unofficial re-distribution of wealth if you will), you just give them your money, they will not harm you and some would even say "thank you". It is like an accepted culture there to be robbed and to re-distribute wealth! By comparison makes here looks like a heaven of security. I don't know how this is, there are, it seems, two Malaysian sisters operating food eateries there (for some time) with the spate of rapes and robberies happening regularly there. Then there is (believe it or not) this "culture" in theTrobriand Islands (today officially known as the Kiriwina Islands, unofficially "Islands of Love") 170 mi² archipelago of coral atolls off the eastern coast of Papua New Guinea : for instance an annual harvest festival on one of these islands where women to go out and rape strange men. Some men complain that gangs of women who stopped them, behaved roughly and taunted at their private parts. Sometimes they get raped. To avoid such unwanted sexual encounters they take roundabout routes home from their place of work/ fields. Too bad or maybe good visitors like us, alas, are too strange looking/smelling to them to be targeted. :) sorry out of topic, I have just met some Malaysians coming back from Papua New Guinea – now that place, with its poverty, poor healthcare and rampant gang culture – must surely rank one of the highest crime places on this planet. Sacked how many police, also no result. Better off people live 24 hour controlled access gate, high “electrified” fences, when they come out they bring about 100 kina (RM200) to pay whenever robbed by knife or gun wielding thugs. It seems a form of culture there (unofficial re-distribution of wealth if you will), you just give them your money, they will not harm you and some would even say “thank you”. It is like an accepted culture there to be robbed and to re-distribute wealth! By comparison makes here looks like a heaven of security. I don’t know how this is, there are, it seems, two Malaysian sisters operating food eateries there (for some time) with the spate of rapes and robberies happening regularly there.

Then there is (believe it or not) this “culture” in theTrobriand Islands (today officially known as the Kiriwina Islands, unofficially “Islands of Love”) 170 mi² archipelago of coral atolls off the eastern coast of Papua New Guinea : for instance an annual harvest festival on one of these islands where women to go out and rape strange men. Some men complain that gangs of women who stopped them, behaved roughly and taunted at their private parts. Sometimes they get raped. To avoid such unwanted sexual encounters they take roundabout routes home from their place of work/ fields.

Too bad or maybe good visitors like us, alas, are too strange looking/smelling to them to be targeted. :)

]]> By: Jeffrey http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/13/hishammuddin-should-explain-why-he-is-supporting-the-renewal-of-musa-hassan-as-igp-when-the-latter-had-led-a-losing-war-against-crime-despite-trebling-of-police-allocations-to-rm8-billion-in-9th-malay/comment-page-1/#comment-184632 Jeffrey Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:36:24 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=5115#comment-184632 You know very well that they will appoint whoever they are 'comfortable' with, no matter define what is comfortable and will not change stance unless compelling reason raised to influence public outrage and opinion overwhelming against appointment....So if one wants to challenge appointment one has to be very specific where there is no doubt that the appointee cannot shift blame elsewhere so easily. Besides appointee is holding high position, there is a reputation factor, so what we say must be beyond speculation, and even if there's evidence, it must be convincing irrebuttable evidence before raising it in public for what we say to have credibility. What I'm saying, whether you agree or not, that the general losing of war on crime (in absence of specifics) is not it. You know very well that they will appoint whoever they are ‘comfortable’ with, no matter define what is comfortable and will not change stance unless compelling reason raised to influence public outrage and opinion overwhelming against appointment….So if one wants to challenge appointment one has to be very specific where there is no doubt that the appointee cannot shift blame elsewhere so easily.

Besides appointee is holding high position, there is a reputation factor, so what we say must be beyond speculation, and even if there’s evidence, it must be convincing irrebuttable evidence before raising it in public for what we say to have credibility.

What I’m saying, whether you agree or not, that the general losing of war on crime (in absence of specifics) is not it.

]]> By: Jeffrey http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/13/hishammuddin-should-explain-why-he-is-supporting-the-renewal-of-musa-hassan-as-igp-when-the-latter-had-led-a-losing-war-against-crime-despite-trebling-of-police-allocations-to-rm8-billion-in-9th-malay/comment-page-1/#comment-184631 Jeffrey Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:25:46 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=5115#comment-184631 There are studies on the rising crime problem with facts and figure in Malaysian context. Perhaps you want to read up on these. Take for example the dislocation of indian plantation workers/rural urban drift or the kind of exploitation of foreign workers, inequitable distribution of income due to govt policies etc you'd find that yes police's inefficiency/corruption has a contributory part to play but so are so many other sectors/tiers of people and even govt policies that one finds it hard to ascertain whether the police laches are only 10% or 90% bearing on this phenomenon.....If you want to nail anyone holding top position one has to be very careful and specific and connect something that is wholly attributable to him or his underlings, and not something general that may be attributable to elsewhere and other factors where one is left speculating who is proportionately the major culprit. Only facts and figures from various studies could (at least) be raised to argue the case or if not a very specific event or wrong doing attributable only if not mainly to the police force for which the buck stops at IGP. Then you're getting somewhere. There are studies on the rising crime problem with facts and figure in Malaysian context. Perhaps you want to read up on these. Take for example the dislocation of indian plantation workers/rural urban drift or the kind of exploitation of foreign workers, inequitable distribution of income due to govt policies etc you’d find that yes police’s inefficiency/corruption has a contributory part to play but so are so many other sectors/tiers of people and even govt policies that one finds it hard to ascertain whether the police laches are only 10% or 90% bearing on this phenomenon…..If you want to nail anyone holding top position one has to be very careful and specific and connect something that is wholly attributable to him or his underlings, and not something general that may be attributable to elsewhere and other factors where one is left speculating who is proportionately the major culprit. Only facts and figures from various studies could (at least) be raised to argue the case or if not a very specific event or wrong doing attributable only if not mainly to the police force for which the buck stops at IGP. Then you’re getting somewhere.

]]> By: limkamput http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/13/hishammuddin-should-explain-why-he-is-supporting-the-renewal-of-musa-hassan-as-igp-when-the-latter-had-led-a-losing-war-against-crime-despite-trebling-of-police-allocations-to-rm8-billion-in-9th-malay/comment-page-1/#comment-184629 limkamput Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:43:45 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=5115#comment-184629 Jeffrey, I might have used some uncalled for words, but you know what I said in the nut shell. How can you deny the fact that what you postulated is pure nonsense? If macro factors resulted in increased crimes, the size of the police force (both in terms of personnel, equipment, and technology) too has increased. If the police force is not able to discern new challenges and therefore not able to equip themselves, who is she going blame. You want facts and figure for all public policy formulation. That is simpler said than done. Just touch your heart and ask yourself “the state” of police force in this country with respect to: 1. providing general security for the population 2. solving crimes that have been committed 3. the efficiency and effectiveness in handling public reports and complaints 4. the general perception of bribery and corruption among the police force 5. the transparency and neutrality of police forces in handling “political” cases 6. the general perception of abuse and excessive force used on remand person Jeffrey, just cut the long argument short. If you say that the police is doing a better job in all of the above, then I have nothing much more to say. If they are not, then certainly there is a need to call for review which to me inevitably includes the role of leadership in the force. Jeffrey, I might have used some uncalled for words, but you know what I said in the nut shell. How can you deny the fact that what you postulated is pure nonsense? If macro factors resulted in increased crimes, the size of the police force (both in terms of personnel, equipment, and technology) too has increased. If the police force is not able to discern new challenges and therefore not able to equip themselves, who is she going blame.

You want facts and figure for all public policy formulation. That is simpler said than done. Just touch your heart and ask yourself “the state” of police force in this country with respect to:
1. providing general security for the population
2. solving crimes that have been committed
3. the efficiency and effectiveness in handling public reports and complaints
4. the general perception of bribery and corruption among the police force
5. the transparency and neutrality of police forces in handling “political” cases
6. the general perception of abuse and excessive force used on remand person

Jeffrey, just cut the long argument short. If you say that the police is doing a better job in all of the above, then I have nothing much more to say. If they are not, then certainly there is a need to call for review which to me inevitably includes the role of leadership in the force.

]]> By: ablastine http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/13/hishammuddin-should-explain-why-he-is-supporting-the-renewal-of-musa-hassan-as-igp-when-the-latter-had-led-a-losing-war-against-crime-despite-trebling-of-police-allocations-to-rm8-billion-in-9th-malay/comment-page-1/#comment-184625 ablastine Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:04:46 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=5115#comment-184625 If I am Najib, I will first let Kerismudin renew the IGP contract and then bring up something linking him and his deputy like corruption later (remember the statutory declaration of some gang members implicating him) and get both of them fired. I must look like a hero in front of the nation. Then I will go and liberalise the use of languages in secondary schools- allow schools the freedom to do non language subjects in whatever language they fancy. With one single swop I solve most of the problems. The language chauvanist get their supporters to study non language subjects in their own mother tongue be it Malay, Chinese or Tamil. The pragmatic can have their children study English to ensure a good future for themselves and country. The grounding of Malay as a language is ensured as it is already widely taught in primary schools. The parents can no longer blame the government if their children do not do well in Science or Maths because they are the ones who chose the medium of instructions for them. This ensures that the nation remain multi-lingual. It will definately take the wind out of the sail of PR whose member mostly cannot decide or sticks on to the rigid and stupid policy of returning to using Malay to teach Science and English. Then I will ask my Moles or UMNO member in PAS to continue pushing for unity talk. Whatever is being talked about is of no important. What is more important it to create distrust amongst the opposition parties. Give a Minister or Deputy minister post to the two big Moles in PAS and the other two parties (DAP and PKR ) will sure be pissed off and go for each other throat. It is simple logic that if you cannot fight your opponent outright you cause your opponents to fight among themselves first. When they are thoroughly exhausted killing each other just go in and kill their remaining army. Next I simply surrender Perak back to the Opposition by simply dumping their traitor .. that Hee woman. I may look weak and appear to be sucumbing to pressure but the returns are worth it. It will bring lots of goodwill from the electorate. I may not be able to appease everyone because of the power grab but some fence sitter may give me points for my generosity. The next election is all about that. If people like you and what you did they give you the vote. If not you are a goner. With such manipulation I can even use the notion of C4 to my advantage. If anyone dare to oppose me .........remember C4. If I am Najib, I will first let Kerismudin renew the IGP contract and then bring up something linking him and his deputy like corruption later (remember the statutory declaration of some gang members implicating him) and get both of them fired. I must look like a hero in front of the nation. Then I will go and liberalise the use of languages in secondary schools- allow schools the freedom to do non language subjects in whatever language they fancy. With one single swop I solve most of the problems. The language chauvanist get their supporters to study non language subjects in their own mother tongue be it Malay, Chinese or Tamil. The pragmatic can have their children study English to ensure a good future for themselves and country. The grounding of Malay as a language is ensured as it is already widely taught in primary schools. The parents can no longer blame the government if their children do not do well in Science or Maths because they are the ones who chose the medium of instructions for them. This ensures that the nation remain multi-lingual. It will definately take the wind out of the sail of PR whose member mostly cannot decide or sticks on to the rigid and stupid policy of returning to using Malay to teach Science and English.

Then I will ask my Moles or UMNO member in
PAS to continue pushing for unity talk. Whatever is being talked about is of no important. What is more important it to create distrust amongst the opposition parties. Give a Minister or Deputy minister post to the two big Moles in PAS and the other two parties (DAP and PKR ) will sure be pissed off and go for each other throat. It is simple logic that if you cannot fight your opponent outright you cause your opponents to fight among themselves first. When they are thoroughly exhausted killing each other just go in and kill their remaining army.

Next I simply surrender Perak back to the Opposition by simply dumping their traitor .. that Hee woman. I may look weak and appear to be sucumbing to pressure but the returns are worth it. It will bring lots of goodwill from the electorate. I may not be able to appease everyone because of the power grab but some fence sitter may give me points for my generosity. The next election is all about that. If people like you and what you did they give you the vote. If not you are a goner.

With such manipulation I can even use the notion of C4 to my advantage. If anyone dare to oppose me ………remember C4.

]]> By: Jeffrey http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/13/hishammuddin-should-explain-why-he-is-supporting-the-renewal-of-musa-hassan-as-igp-when-the-latter-had-led-a-losing-war-against-crime-despite-trebling-of-police-allocations-to-rm8-billion-in-9th-malay/comment-page-1/#comment-184624 Jeffrey Mon, 13 Jul 2009 09:55:59 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=5115#comment-184624 Never mind he says anyone's opinion is stupid, idiotic, it is often described such (so oten that it desensitises and loses its effect) as long as it is not in accord with his opinion, arrogated by him to be the whisperings of wisdom, no matter how contrary that may really be, an example of a man addicted to judging well his own cause. Also he revels in new found status of kicking asses whenever he feels equal to the occasion without serious repercussions visited upon him in cyberspace. Good for you, keep it up lah. :) Never mind he says anyone’s opinion is stupid, idiotic, it is often described such (so oten that it desensitises and loses its effect) as long as it is not in accord with his opinion, arrogated by him to be the whisperings of wisdom, no matter how contrary that may really be, an example of a man addicted to judging well his own cause. Also he revels in new found status of kicking asses whenever he feels equal to the occasion without serious repercussions visited upon him in cyberspace. Good for you, keep it up lah. :)

]]> By: Jeffrey http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/13/hishammuddin-should-explain-why-he-is-supporting-the-renewal-of-musa-hassan-as-igp-when-the-latter-had-led-a-losing-war-against-crime-despite-trebling-of-police-allocations-to-rm8-billion-in-9th-malay/comment-page-1/#comment-184623 Jeffrey Mon, 13 Jul 2009 09:44:44 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=5115#comment-184623 Nobody says police are not justified in solving crime. To be sure no one is saying here that police's resources are fully utilised to combat crime or are even efficient, but for a reason to be given to justify why IGP contract should not be renewed (because the buck stops there) it better be specific reasons cited: for examples, persecution/bias against Opposition by various investigations; or even controversy generated by Anwar's allegations that he has evidence of previous conspiracy by Gani and Musa against him to back his claims that the current sodomy charge against him is politically motivated - provided Anwar's allegations are vindicated and evidence accepted conclusive; or maybe police brutality from deaths of A Kugan. If the main objection is rising crime - and crime is caused by myriad of macro factors beyond police's control that the most efficient of IGP even best of IGP - might not make a dent to stem the rising crime, then how to connect IGP/Police to this phenomenon? We know an efficient police force - which is IGP's task to ensure - ought to help but we're not given facts/figures backed by research here to say how much of this increase in crime wave/tide is attributable to an inefficient/corrupt police force for which IGP as responsible head is directy blameworthy and how much is due to other unavoidable macro factors and root causes that even an efficient and uncorrupt force could do little to stem/curb. As usual Lim Kam Put would shoot through the mouth whatever occur to him - at that moment - without filtering through the brain. We are used to it. :) Nobody says police are not justified in solving crime. To be sure no one is saying here that police’s resources are fully utilised to combat crime or are even efficient, but for a reason to be given to justify why IGP contract should not be renewed (because the buck stops there) it better be specific reasons cited: for examples, persecution/bias against Opposition by various investigations; or even controversy generated by Anwar’s allegations that he has evidence of previous conspiracy by Gani and Musa against him to back his claims that the current sodomy charge against him is politically motivated – provided Anwar’s allegations are vindicated and evidence accepted conclusive; or maybe police brutality from deaths of A Kugan.

If the main objection is rising crime – and crime is caused by myriad of macro factors beyond police’s control that the most efficient of IGP even best of IGP – might not make a dent to stem the rising crime, then how to connect IGP/Police to this phenomenon?

We know an efficient police force – which is IGP’s task to ensure – ought to help but we’re not given facts/figures backed by research here to say how much of this increase in crime wave/tide is attributable to an inefficient/corrupt police force for which IGP as responsible head is directy blameworthy and how much is due to other unavoidable macro factors and root causes that even an efficient and uncorrupt force could do little to stem/curb.

As usual Lim Kam Put would shoot through the mouth whatever occur to him – at that moment – without filtering through the brain. We are used to it. :)

]]> By: limkamput http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/13/hishammuddin-should-explain-why-he-is-supporting-the-renewal-of-musa-hassan-as-igp-when-the-latter-had-led-a-losing-war-against-crime-despite-trebling-of-police-allocations-to-rm8-billion-in-9th-malay/comment-page-1/#comment-184619 limkamput Mon, 13 Jul 2009 09:09:52 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=5115#comment-184619 Look, SpeakUP, if you have written that piece by Jeffrey, I would have kept quiet because that would be expected. Who is talking a lot like those in the coffee shop other than you and monsterball? I don't call you loose canon ball II for nothing. Everything I say, I say so with a reason. Look, SpeakUP, if you have written that piece by Jeffrey, I would have kept quiet because that would be expected. Who is talking a lot like those in the coffee shop other than you and monsterball? I don’t call you loose canon ball II for nothing. Everything I say, I say so with a reason.

]]> By: SpeakUp http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/13/hishammuddin-should-explain-why-he-is-supporting-the-renewal-of-musa-hassan-as-igp-when-the-latter-had-led-a-losing-war-against-crime-despite-trebling-of-police-allocations-to-rm8-billion-in-9th-malay/comment-page-1/#comment-184611 SpeakUp Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:30:07 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=5115#comment-184611 Limkaput ... if I post then I am sure you will say my posting is more stupid than Jeff's. Can I get your address, I am keen to send you a dictionary, I mean you always say someone is stupid, idiotic etc only. You would do well to increase your vocabulary. Also, I think you are just some lowly educated ignoramus who dreams of being a political kingpin but only can talk a lot at coffee shops. I have never ever seen you able to just answer someone point for point and not call them names. Never ... neither you nor that Munster. Limkaput … if I post then I am sure you will say my posting is more stupid than Jeff’s. Can I get your address, I am keen to send you a dictionary, I mean you always say someone is stupid, idiotic etc only. You would do well to increase your vocabulary.

Also, I think you are just some lowly educated ignoramus who dreams of being a political kingpin but only can talk a lot at coffee shops.

I have never ever seen you able to just answer someone point for point and not call them names. Never … neither you nor that Munster.

]]> By: limkamput http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/13/hishammuddin-should-explain-why-he-is-supporting-the-renewal-of-musa-hassan-as-igp-when-the-latter-had-led-a-losing-war-against-crime-despite-trebling-of-police-allocations-to-rm8-billion-in-9th-malay/comment-page-1/#comment-184608 limkamput Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:09:52 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=5115#comment-184608 Jeffrey, I have never seen a more stupid posting than your last one. Myriad of problems and therefore police are justified in not solving all of them? How idiotic can you get? Let me tell you this: A proactive and efficient police force; a police force with capable leadership would have foreseen all these developments and take appropriate pre-emptive measures before the problems you have identified become so acute. Worse still, you even attribute corruption as one of the factors as if police are free from corruption. Has it ever occurred to you that the number of police personnel and the allocation have also increased many folds? White collar crimes and we should blame them our attitude? Look, how much are they paying you? Since when good behaviour is dependent on our good attitudes? How can you take good attitudes as given? If whatever you say hold water, there is no need for laws, authorities and social compulsion since the beginning of time. We just depend on the goodness of individuals. There is no doubt in my mind you are no longer your own self. You can not be that stupid. Jeffrey,
I have never seen a more stupid posting than your last one. Myriad of problems and therefore police are justified in not solving all of them? How idiotic can you get? Let me tell you this: A proactive and efficient police force; a police force with capable leadership would have foreseen all these developments and take appropriate pre-emptive measures before the problems you have identified become so acute. Worse still, you even attribute corruption as one of the factors as if police are free from corruption. Has it ever occurred to you that the number of police personnel and the allocation have also increased many folds?

White collar crimes and we should blame them our attitude? Look, how much are they paying you? Since when good behaviour is dependent on our good attitudes? How can you take good attitudes as given? If whatever you say hold water, there is no need for laws, authorities and social compulsion since the beginning of time. We just depend on the goodness of individuals.

There is no doubt in my mind you are no longer your own self. You can not be that stupid.

]]> By: mendela http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/13/hishammuddin-should-explain-why-he-is-supporting-the-renewal-of-musa-hassan-as-igp-when-the-latter-had-led-a-losing-war-against-crime-despite-trebling-of-police-allocations-to-rm8-billion-in-9th-malay/comment-page-1/#comment-184607 mendela Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:04:41 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=5115#comment-184607 Let's start a drive to nominate Ramli as our top cop! Musa must be put to jail for all his dirty plays and abuses all these years! Enough is enough! Let’s start a drive to nominate Ramli as our top cop!

Musa must be put to jail for all his dirty plays and abuses all these years!

Enough is enough!

]]> By: sheriff singh http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/13/hishammuddin-should-explain-why-he-is-supporting-the-renewal-of-musa-hassan-as-igp-when-the-latter-had-led-a-losing-war-against-crime-despite-trebling-of-police-allocations-to-rm8-billion-in-9th-malay/comment-page-1/#comment-184603 sheriff singh Mon, 13 Jul 2009 07:36:00 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=5115#comment-184603 Maybe that fellow knows some things that we, the man in the street, do not. So he has the leverage. Maybe that fellow knows some things that we, the man in the street, do not. So he has the leverage.

]]> By: johnnypok http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/13/hishammuddin-should-explain-why-he-is-supporting-the-renewal-of-musa-hassan-as-igp-when-the-latter-had-led-a-losing-war-against-crime-despite-trebling-of-police-allocations-to-rm8-billion-in-9th-malay/comment-page-1/#comment-184590 johnnypok Mon, 13 Jul 2009 06:09:51 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=5115#comment-184590 He only knows how to wave the kris and talk coke like a HP6 with a retarded brain. This is a classic example of a typical NEP product. Go learn something from Great Singapore, go, go, go for a brain-transplant/ He only knows how to wave the kris and talk coke like a HP6 with a retarded brain. This is a classic example of a typical NEP product. Go learn something from Great Singapore, go, go, go for a brain-transplant/

]]> By: House Victim http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/13/hishammuddin-should-explain-why-he-is-supporting-the-renewal-of-musa-hassan-as-igp-when-the-latter-had-led-a-losing-war-against-crime-despite-trebling-of-police-allocations-to-rm8-billion-in-9th-malay/comment-page-1/#comment-184587 House Victim Mon, 13 Jul 2009 05:58:16 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=5115#comment-184587 The Basic and Greatest Problem of the UMNO administration the Public Servants are left NOT to do their work and NOT to abide by Rules and Regulations. What NJ said can only be Talk and cannot be Walked!! The Abuse of Rights and NOT following Rules and Regulations are the Basic for the Police NOT doing their jobs. Does Hishamuddin press the Police to do their work accordingly? Does the PM press his Cabinet to do the same? If PM cannot even pressing his Ministers to answer the inquiries by the Parliament on the PKFZ scandal and many others, HE already had not done his job! Can HE talk and walk for the future? WHAT ARE HAPPENING ARE JUST JOKES AFTER JOKES? The Basic and Greatest Problem of the UMNO administration the Public Servants are left NOT to do their work and NOT to abide by Rules and Regulations. What NJ said can only be Talk and cannot be Walked!!

The Abuse of Rights and NOT following Rules and Regulations are the Basic for the Police NOT doing their jobs.

Does Hishamuddin press the Police to do their work accordingly?
Does the PM press his Cabinet to do the same? If PM cannot even pressing his Ministers to answer the inquiries by the Parliament on the PKFZ scandal and many others, HE already had not done his job! Can HE talk and walk for the future?

WHAT ARE HAPPENING ARE JUST JOKES AFTER JOKES?

]]> By: Godfather http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/13/hishammuddin-should-explain-why-he-is-supporting-the-renewal-of-musa-hassan-as-igp-when-the-latter-had-led-a-losing-war-against-crime-despite-trebling-of-police-allocations-to-rm8-billion-in-9th-malay/comment-page-1/#comment-184581 Godfather Mon, 13 Jul 2009 05:09:42 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=5115#comment-184581 When we say "change the IGP", we don't literally mean that we get rid of the IGP and the problems will all go away the day after he leaves. However, the manner of his leaving will send a very powerful message to the police force, and his successor - hopefully a person with a clear mission to target crime and not target PR - will then be able to start house-cleaning. You install a person of integrity and action, and hopefully the changes then occur right down the line. When we say “change the IGP”, we don’t literally mean that we get rid of the IGP and the problems will all go away the day after he leaves. However, the manner of his leaving will send a very powerful message to the police force, and his successor – hopefully a person with a clear mission to target crime and not target PR – will then be able to start house-cleaning. You install a person of integrity and action, and hopefully the changes then occur right down the line.

]]> By: lesliefkh http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/13/hishammuddin-should-explain-why-he-is-supporting-the-renewal-of-musa-hassan-as-igp-when-the-latter-had-led-a-losing-war-against-crime-despite-trebling-of-police-allocations-to-rm8-billion-in-9th-malay/comment-page-1/#comment-184580 lesliefkh Mon, 13 Jul 2009 05:01:04 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=5115#comment-184580 would it be possible to change IGP with non-malay guy? IGP Musa shouldnt be reappointed again but ask him to clean up all the mess before he leave..like suspect deads under police custody-kugan case like, nurin case-children kinapping-murder,snatch thief,mat rempits,ah longs..Should IPCMC be formed immediately..POLICE ARE NOT ABOVE LAW! Or else the new IGP will get the blame had to solved all the garbages from previos IGP. Not fair rite..lembu punya susu, tuan dapat nama!! would it be possible to change IGP with non-malay guy?
IGP Musa shouldnt be reappointed again but ask him to clean up all the mess before he leave..like suspect deads under police custody-kugan case like, nurin case-children kinapping-murder,snatch thief,mat rempits,ah longs..Should IPCMC be formed immediately..POLICE ARE NOT ABOVE LAW!
Or else the new IGP will get the blame had to solved all the garbages from previos IGP.
Not fair rite..lembu punya susu, tuan dapat nama!!

]]> By: storm62 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/13/hishammuddin-should-explain-why-he-is-supporting-the-renewal-of-musa-hassan-as-igp-when-the-latter-had-led-a-losing-war-against-crime-despite-trebling-of-police-allocations-to-rm8-billion-in-9th-malay/comment-page-1/#comment-184578 storm62 Mon, 13 Jul 2009 04:38:29 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=5115#comment-184578 don't just change the IGP, change the whole bloody forces and government. corrupted to core, good for nothings! don’t just change the IGP, change the whole bloody forces and government.

corrupted to core, good for nothings!

]]> By: yhsiew http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/13/hishammuddin-should-explain-why-he-is-supporting-the-renewal-of-musa-hassan-as-igp-when-the-latter-had-led-a-losing-war-against-crime-despite-trebling-of-police-allocations-to-rm8-billion-in-9th-malay/comment-page-1/#comment-184577 yhsiew Mon, 13 Jul 2009 04:28:22 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=5115#comment-184577 The Home Minister, Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein should explain why he is supporting the renewal of Musa Hassan as Inspector-General of Police (IGP).....(Kit) ============================================================ Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein has not got the foresight. He only knows how to please his crony. Little did he know that the choice of a suitable IGT will have a dramatic impact on UMNO in the 13th general election - choosing the wrong IGP may well cause UMNO to go down in history! I bet a smarter Najib is more careful on the issue. The Home Minister, Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein should explain why he is supporting the renewal of Musa Hassan as Inspector-General of Police (IGP)…..(Kit)
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Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein has not got the foresight. He only knows how to please his crony. Little did he know that the choice of a suitable IGT will have a dramatic impact on UMNO in the 13th general election – choosing the wrong IGP may well cause UMNO to go down in history!

I bet a smarter Najib is more careful on the issue.

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