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		<title>By: Woof</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/13/chaining-the-children-of-the-poor/comment-page-1/#comment-184693</link>
		<dc:creator>Woof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 03:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where were you? Picking grapes?? LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where were you? Picking grapes?? LOL</p>
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		<title>By: TheWrathOfGrapes</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/13/chaining-the-children-of-the-poor/comment-page-1/#comment-184679</link>
		<dc:creator>TheWrathOfGrapes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 00:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wasn&#039;t Mahathir the culprit who made the switch in the medium of instruction from English to Malay way back in the 80s when he was the Education Minister?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn&#8217;t Mahathir the culprit who made the switch in the medium of instruction from English to Malay way back in the 80s when he was the Education Minister?</p>
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		<title>By: johnnypok</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/13/chaining-the-children-of-the-poor/comment-page-1/#comment-184674</link>
		<dc:creator>johnnypok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chinese and Indians have no problem to master other languages. Malays also can do it, but they have been brain-washed from birth to act the way they are now, and for them to change positively will take many generations to come. Still it is better late than never. Najib could be their savior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chinese and Indians have no problem to master other languages. Malays also can do it, but they have been brain-washed from birth to act the way they are now, and for them to change positively will take many generations to come. Still it is better late than never. Najib could be their savior.</p>
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		<title>By: vsp</title>
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		<dc:creator>vsp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we have Malays who can think and reason with the likes of Bakri Musa, Azly Rahman, Raja Petra, Farish A. Noor, Anwar Ibahim, Zaid Ibrahim, Tengku Razali and a multitude of other Malays who can speak eloquent English it would be the death-knell of the feudalistic, fascist and myopic &#039;ketuanan Melayu&#039; political system. Basically, our political system is still feudalistic, being dominated by the ruling class which demands total acquiescence from the population. This ruling class would not tolerate any other opinions other than their own. So how to prevent future Malays from getting smart politically? One of the ways is to frustrate the learning of ideas and knowledge through the English language. 

The Internet is becoming a very powerful medium of acquiring knowledge and ideas. The lingua fanca of the Internet is English. So the ketuanan Melayu government does mind keeping the Malays ignorant. They prefer to translate all the knowledge selectively so that they can still control the minds of the Malays. Just look at the teaching of History. There were many historical facts that are not being taught to the students in Malaysian schools. Facts that  embarrass them were being removed from history books.

So if the Malays were to learn English, they would be empowered to seek knowledge and ideas through the Internet. To prevent that from happening, the government would sabotage any policy that would enable the people to learn English. And with a weak command of English the government hope that the Malays will not have the drive and initiative to seek knowledge from the Internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we have Malays who can think and reason with the likes of Bakri Musa, Azly Rahman, Raja Petra, Farish A. Noor, Anwar Ibahim, Zaid Ibrahim, Tengku Razali and a multitude of other Malays who can speak eloquent English it would be the death-knell of the feudalistic, fascist and myopic &#8216;ketuanan Melayu&#8217; political system. Basically, our political system is still feudalistic, being dominated by the ruling class which demands total acquiescence from the population. This ruling class would not tolerate any other opinions other than their own. So how to prevent future Malays from getting smart politically? One of the ways is to frustrate the learning of ideas and knowledge through the English language. </p>
<p>The Internet is becoming a very powerful medium of acquiring knowledge and ideas. The lingua fanca of the Internet is English. So the ketuanan Melayu government does mind keeping the Malays ignorant. They prefer to translate all the knowledge selectively so that they can still control the minds of the Malays. Just look at the teaching of History. There were many historical facts that are not being taught to the students in Malaysian schools. Facts that  embarrass them were being removed from history books.</p>
<p>So if the Malays were to learn English, they would be empowered to seek knowledge and ideas through the Internet. To prevent that from happening, the government would sabotage any policy that would enable the people to learn English. And with a weak command of English the government hope that the Malays will not have the drive and initiative to seek knowledge from the Internet.</p>
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		<title>By: limkamput</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/13/chaining-the-children-of-the-poor/comment-page-1/#comment-184604</link>
		<dc:creator>limkamput</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 07:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no doubt that the failure of PPSMI is due to implementation weaknesses, one of which is half baked teachers in our school system today.  If we trace back to all the failures that beset this country today, it is essentially due to mediocrity and favouritism we showered on certain race irrespective of whether they are able to perform the task or otherwise.  Hence, it is not just the school system that is having the problem of incompetent teachers and administrators. I can easily say that half of our university lecturers are also half baked.  The same goes for our civil service and GLCs.  

This country can’t face reality; hence it can never have reform no matter how much we talk and how many slogans we churn out.  Please don’t not misunderstand me; if we need to uplift the economic position or create employment for certain race, we must make sure that these people are properly trained and certified before there are given positions.  If they can’t make it, they must repeat and repeat again until they are competent enough.  For goodness sake, please don’t pass incompetent people and allow them to hold important positions. It is a recipe of disaster.  We owe this much to ourselves and this nation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no doubt that the failure of PPSMI is due to implementation weaknesses, one of which is half baked teachers in our school system today.  If we trace back to all the failures that beset this country today, it is essentially due to mediocrity and favouritism we showered on certain race irrespective of whether they are able to perform the task or otherwise.  Hence, it is not just the school system that is having the problem of incompetent teachers and administrators. I can easily say that half of our university lecturers are also half baked.  The same goes for our civil service and GLCs.  </p>
<p>This country can’t face reality; hence it can never have reform no matter how much we talk and how many slogans we churn out.  Please don’t not misunderstand me; if we need to uplift the economic position or create employment for certain race, we must make sure that these people are properly trained and certified before there are given positions.  If they can’t make it, they must repeat and repeat again until they are competent enough.  For goodness sake, please don’t pass incompetent people and allow them to hold important positions. It is a recipe of disaster.  We owe this much to ourselves and this nation.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee HS</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee HS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 06:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lee Kuan Yew is right.

When fools govern a country, there will be chaoes.

There is no longer systematic way of doing things.

The &quot;rakyat&quot; will suffer landing nowhere in this world.

How can these &quot;leaders&quot; be so un-wise. They have done a disservice to the country.

Do they actually have aims? May be just a slogan.

I heard of claims that Malaysia has one of the best education standards in the world. I don&#039;t know who said so but all our tertiary institutions has not even been listed in the top 300 universities in the world. Yet UMNO leaders still claim that we have one of the best educational standards in the world.

Fools they are! Not us!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee Kuan Yew is right.</p>
<p>When fools govern a country, there will be chaoes.</p>
<p>There is no longer systematic way of doing things.</p>
<p>The &#8220;rakyat&#8221; will suffer landing nowhere in this world.</p>
<p>How can these &#8220;leaders&#8221; be so un-wise. They have done a disservice to the country.</p>
<p>Do they actually have aims? May be just a slogan.</p>
<p>I heard of claims that Malaysia has one of the best education standards in the world. I don&#8217;t know who said so but all our tertiary institutions has not even been listed in the top 300 universities in the world. Yet UMNO leaders still claim that we have one of the best educational standards in the world.</p>
<p>Fools they are! Not us!</p>
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		<title>By: House Victim</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/13/chaining-the-children-of-the-poor/comment-page-1/#comment-184596</link>
		<dc:creator>House Victim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 06:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to have post the above in the wrong column!

Following is the intended post:

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2009/7/11/nation/20090711165608&amp;sec=nation
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2009/7/12/nation/4304638&amp;sec=nation

I believe the finding of unnecessary Topics for budget spending is behind what the BN politicians actually want. 

Do they care for Education?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to have post the above in the wrong column!</p>
<p>Following is the intended post:</p>
<p><a href="http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2009/7/11/nation/20090711165608&#038;sec=nation" rel="nofollow">http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2009/7/11/nation/20090711165608&#038;sec=nation</a><br />
<a href="http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2009/7/12/nation/4304638&#038;sec=nation" rel="nofollow">http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2009/7/12/nation/4304638&#038;sec=nation</a></p>
<p>I believe the finding of unnecessary Topics for budget spending is behind what the BN politicians actually want. </p>
<p>Do they care for Education?</p>
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		<title>By: House Victim</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/13/chaining-the-children-of-the-poor/comment-page-1/#comment-184595</link>
		<dc:creator>House Victim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 06:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Basic and Greatest Problem of the UMNO administration the Public Servants are left NOT to do their work and NOT 

to abide by Rules and Regulations. What NJ said can only be Talk and cannot be Walked!!

The Abuse of Rights and NOT following Rules and Regulations are the Basic for the Police NOT doing their jobs. 

Does Hishamuddin press the Police to do their work accordingly?
Does the PM press his Cabinet to do the same? If PM cannot even pressing his Ministers to answer the inquiries by 

the Parliament on the PKFZ scandal and many others, HE already had not done his job! Can HE talk and walk for the 

future?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Basic and Greatest Problem of the UMNO administration the Public Servants are left NOT to do their work and NOT </p>
<p>to abide by Rules and Regulations. What NJ said can only be Talk and cannot be Walked!!</p>
<p>The Abuse of Rights and NOT following Rules and Regulations are the Basic for the Police NOT doing their jobs. </p>
<p>Does Hishamuddin press the Police to do their work accordingly?<br />
Does the PM press his Cabinet to do the same? If PM cannot even pressing his Ministers to answer the inquiries by </p>
<p>the Parliament on the PKFZ scandal and many others, HE already had not done his job! Can HE talk and walk for the </p>
<p>future?</p>
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		<title>By: lesliefkh</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/13/chaining-the-children-of-the-poor/comment-page-1/#comment-184592</link>
		<dc:creator>lesliefkh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 06:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>btw..new &amp; unique of your new blogsite. good!!
wish you dato&#039; continue to speak for rakyat &amp; for justice. thank you...LKS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>btw..new &amp; unique of your new blogsite. good!!<br />
wish you dato&#8217; continue to speak for rakyat &amp; for justice. thank you&#8230;LKS</p>
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		<title>By: lesliefkh</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/13/chaining-the-children-of-the-poor/comment-page-1/#comment-184589</link>
		<dc:creator>lesliefkh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 06:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it may effect the graduates grades plus standard of knowledge compared with the world competative. Maybe many dropouts or jobless after schools,college even Uni&#039;s.
Vision 2020 is far reached,may not be achieved..only 11 years left.
Only worried of our children future..will their fate be guranteed later? I doubt. cari kerja lain!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it may effect the graduates grades plus standard of knowledge compared with the world competative. Maybe many dropouts or jobless after schools,college even Uni&#8217;s.<br />
Vision 2020 is far reached,may not be achieved..only 11 years left.<br />
Only worried of our children future..will their fate be guranteed later? I doubt. cari kerja lain!!</p>
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		<title>By: tsn</title>
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		<dc:creator>tsn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 04:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do not include and condemn Chinese educationists in PPSMI fallout. Just leave Chinese educationists alone, they are too  insignificant in overall education system. They know their postion well and from the very first day of PPSMI, they are only talking on behalf of Chinese primary schools, the rest is none of their business. 
Since colonial day Chinese school has never been the main dish in national education system. It is always a bystander but in unfortunate time it becomes victim of idiocy.
Without the delication of Chinese educationists, Chinese education has long gone with the wind.  Today with 6 years of Chinese primary school, one still manages to read novels from HK/Taiwan/China to pass time, otherwise life will be bore to death.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do not include and condemn Chinese educationists in PPSMI fallout. Just leave Chinese educationists alone, they are too  insignificant in overall education system. They know their postion well and from the very first day of PPSMI, they are only talking on behalf of Chinese primary schools, the rest is none of their business.<br />
Since colonial day Chinese school has never been the main dish in national education system. It is always a bystander but in unfortunate time it becomes victim of idiocy.<br />
Without the delication of Chinese educationists, Chinese education has long gone with the wind.  Today with 6 years of Chinese primary school, one still manages to read novels from HK/Taiwan/China to pass time, otherwise life will be bore to death.</p>
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		<title>By: OrangRojak</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/13/chaining-the-children-of-the-poor/comment-page-1/#comment-184573</link>
		<dc:creator>OrangRojak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 03:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That first statement of fact about the ancient Chinese is misleading past insulting, perhaps only surpassed by the second to last sentence.

Perhaps Bakri Musa and Jeffrey could come to some sort of arrangement which would allow Bakri Musa to get some exposure as a social commentator, only with factually correct and genuinely intellectual articles?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That first statement of fact about the ancient Chinese is misleading past insulting, perhaps only surpassed by the second to last sentence.</p>
<p>Perhaps Bakri Musa and Jeffrey could come to some sort of arrangement which would allow Bakri Musa to get some exposure as a social commentator, only with factually correct and genuinely intellectual articles?</p>
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		<title>By: artemisios</title>
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		<dc:creator>artemisios</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 02:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From English to Malay, back to English &amp; finally double back to Malay again. Wow.. I&#039;m lost already. Only in Malaysia..

What M.Bakri Musa said is true. These policy makers implement &#039;backward policies&#039; on the people &amp; send their own children overseas.

Math &amp; Science (M&amp;S) must be taught in English. This is never about one language above the other. Never. Should the Malay language be the more suitable language for Science &amp; Math, the whole world would teach their children M&amp;S in Malay Language.

For those who are overly sensitive please read on &amp; read carefully. I said this is never about one language above the other. Make no mistake, the Malay language is great in its own way. I am from the time when everything was taught in Malay. 

Our &quot;perumpamaan&quot;, &quot;puisi&quot; and &quot;pantun&quot; just to name a few, are beautiful. In Malay language, there are ways to say beautiful things that can never be translated in any other language accurately. In fact they&#039;re so great I&#039;ve seen foreigners coming to M&#039;sia just to study them.

But when in comes to M&amp;S, English is more suitable. When I studied M&amp;S (in Malay), I felt that many terms where simply made up or copied from English into Malay without much consideration. To me, M&amp;S terms in Malay does not hold much value. 

Consider these English -&gt; Malay M&amp;S terms:
thermometer = termometer
beaker = bikar
arithmetic = arimetik
vector = vektor
oxygen = oksigen
organic = organik
cell = sel
buthane = butana
logarithm = logaritma

I think our &#039;Language Experts&#039; took about two seconds to translate each M&amp;S term from English to Malay. And they took about three seconds to decide the fate of our nation&#039;s youngsters.

Please, stop this. By reverting again, you&#039;re not glorifying the Malay Language, you&#039;re cheapening it, &amp; insulting it&#039;s beauty.

Dear Education Minister &amp; whoever is involved in your decision making, soon there will be scientists, mathematicians, business women coming out from this system. 
How do you expect them to communicate with the rest of the world? 
Or do you want our youngsters to just hide in M&#039;sia?

I studied science in Malay. Once at work, I referred to a &quot;beaker&quot; as &quot;bikar&quot; in my report. Do you know what happened next?
I was shamed to the ground by everyone who read the report. People from other departments made jokes about &quot;bikars&quot;. And my boss was shamed greatly along with me. What happens after that is history. Nuf said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From English to Malay, back to English &amp; finally double back to Malay again. Wow.. I&#8217;m lost already. Only in Malaysia..</p>
<p>What M.Bakri Musa said is true. These policy makers implement &#8216;backward policies&#8217; on the people &amp; send their own children overseas.</p>
<p>Math &amp; Science (M&amp;S) must be taught in English. This is never about one language above the other. Never. Should the Malay language be the more suitable language for Science &amp; Math, the whole world would teach their children M&amp;S in Malay Language.</p>
<p>For those who are overly sensitive please read on &amp; read carefully. I said this is never about one language above the other. Make no mistake, the Malay language is great in its own way. I am from the time when everything was taught in Malay. </p>
<p>Our &#8220;perumpamaan&#8221;, &#8220;puisi&#8221; and &#8220;pantun&#8221; just to name a few, are beautiful. In Malay language, there are ways to say beautiful things that can never be translated in any other language accurately. In fact they&#8217;re so great I&#8217;ve seen foreigners coming to M&#8217;sia just to study them.</p>
<p>But when in comes to M&amp;S, English is more suitable. When I studied M&amp;S (in Malay), I felt that many terms where simply made up or copied from English into Malay without much consideration. To me, M&amp;S terms in Malay does not hold much value. </p>
<p>Consider these English -&gt; Malay M&amp;S terms:<br />
thermometer = termometer<br />
beaker = bikar<br />
arithmetic = arimetik<br />
vector = vektor<br />
oxygen = oksigen<br />
organic = organik<br />
cell = sel<br />
buthane = butana<br />
logarithm = logaritma</p>
<p>I think our &#8216;Language Experts&#8217; took about two seconds to translate each M&amp;S term from English to Malay. And they took about three seconds to decide the fate of our nation&#8217;s youngsters.</p>
<p>Please, stop this. By reverting again, you&#8217;re not glorifying the Malay Language, you&#8217;re cheapening it, &amp; insulting it&#8217;s beauty.</p>
<p>Dear Education Minister &amp; whoever is involved in your decision making, soon there will be scientists, mathematicians, business women coming out from this system.<br />
How do you expect them to communicate with the rest of the world?<br />
Or do you want our youngsters to just hide in M&#8217;sia?</p>
<p>I studied science in Malay. Once at work, I referred to a &#8220;beaker&#8221; as &#8220;bikar&#8221; in my report. Do you know what happened next?<br />
I was shamed to the ground by everyone who read the report. People from other departments made jokes about &#8220;bikars&#8221;. And my boss was shamed greatly along with me. What happens after that is history. Nuf said.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 01:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>///The acquisition of bilingual ability at an early age confers other significant cognitive advantages. These have been documented by clinical studies with functional MRIs (imaging studies of the brain). Malaysia should learn from these more modern studies and the experiences of more advanced societies, not from the UNESCO studies of backward tribes of Asia./// - M. Bakri Musa.

Some of these modern studies on cognitive advantages of bilingualism amongst children at young age have been pointed out by Lee Wang Yen in earlier thread on this subject.

They should give equal attention to both National Language and English throughout from primary to secondary level. If they do so the children can cope. 

I don’t think this scrapping of teaching of Science and Mathematics in English (PPSMI) is – as what Bakri asserts - attributable to UMNO’s agenda to keep “Malay children perpetually trapped economically and intellectually” so as to preserve its vote bank. For if they were trapped economically and intellectually, it is equally as plausible that they would be susceptible to PAS’s influence and vote for it instead of UMNO.

The fact is PPSMI has not yielded desired results in spite of its costs. It is due to PPSMI being a half-hearted measure intended to bring up English by baby steps but in a way as not to compete with the hallowed high place accorded to the National Language consistent with “Ketuanan” (in deference to Bahasa activists and also MCA&#039;s Chinese educationist lobbyists).

There is no infrastructure to support and make PPSMI effective. That is why even Kit derides it.  We have science and mathematics teachers with half-baked English and to fill the gap they’re having English trained teachers half-baked in science and mathematics to support (in what they call a “buddy system” as in diving terminology) to help. In the end, neither Science/Mathematics nor English is learned!

I agree with Bakri they should give add more English in curriculum than detract/subtract it (which is the impression given by the scrapping of PPSMI). Their main challenge and constraint is how to give more commitment to greater English exposure without detracting the premier status of the national language. The latter is a political imperative. The question of what other method there is in striking of this “balance “ is a thing that they are juggling now.

I&#039;m however not sure of Bakri&#039;s other contention - that the objective of pre-modern Chinese practice of feet binding was “to limit their mobility and participation in life outside the little world of their homes so that these women would then be totally dependent on their men” though it might well tend inevitably to that effect. 

Likely the objective was to make them physically desirable to men: tiny bound feet means that when the woman walked she has to jiggle more her posterior. One may ask how would deformed feet, when unbound in privacy of home, enhance eroticism? Such is the perversity of humans’ imagination that forbidden fruit including bound feet forbidden from sight always tastes or looks better! :)

According to Wikipedia foot binding originated first among the elite and only in the wealthiest parts of China, “which suggests that binding the feet of well-born girls represented their freedom from manual labor and, at the same time, the ability of their husbands to afford wives who did not need to work, who existed solely to serve their men and direct household servants while performing no labor themselves. The economic and social attractions of such women may well have translated into sexual desirability among elite men.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>///The acquisition of bilingual ability at an early age confers other significant cognitive advantages. These have been documented by clinical studies with functional MRIs (imaging studies of the brain). Malaysia should learn from these more modern studies and the experiences of more advanced societies, not from the UNESCO studies of backward tribes of Asia./// &#8211; M. Bakri Musa.</p>
<p>Some of these modern studies on cognitive advantages of bilingualism amongst children at young age have been pointed out by Lee Wang Yen in earlier thread on this subject.</p>
<p>They should give equal attention to both National Language and English throughout from primary to secondary level. If they do so the children can cope. </p>
<p>I don’t think this scrapping of teaching of Science and Mathematics in English (PPSMI) is – as what Bakri asserts &#8211; attributable to UMNO’s agenda to keep “Malay children perpetually trapped economically and intellectually” so as to preserve its vote bank. For if they were trapped economically and intellectually, it is equally as plausible that they would be susceptible to PAS’s influence and vote for it instead of UMNO.</p>
<p>The fact is PPSMI has not yielded desired results in spite of its costs. It is due to PPSMI being a half-hearted measure intended to bring up English by baby steps but in a way as not to compete with the hallowed high place accorded to the National Language consistent with “Ketuanan” (in deference to Bahasa activists and also MCA&#8217;s Chinese educationist lobbyists).</p>
<p>There is no infrastructure to support and make PPSMI effective. That is why even Kit derides it.  We have science and mathematics teachers with half-baked English and to fill the gap they’re having English trained teachers half-baked in science and mathematics to support (in what they call a “buddy system” as in diving terminology) to help. In the end, neither Science/Mathematics nor English is learned!</p>
<p>I agree with Bakri they should give add more English in curriculum than detract/subtract it (which is the impression given by the scrapping of PPSMI). Their main challenge and constraint is how to give more commitment to greater English exposure without detracting the premier status of the national language. The latter is a political imperative. The question of what other method there is in striking of this “balance “ is a thing that they are juggling now.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m however not sure of Bakri&#8217;s other contention &#8211; that the objective of pre-modern Chinese practice of feet binding was “to limit their mobility and participation in life outside the little world of their homes so that these women would then be totally dependent on their men” though it might well tend inevitably to that effect. </p>
<p>Likely the objective was to make them physically desirable to men: tiny bound feet means that when the woman walked she has to jiggle more her posterior. One may ask how would deformed feet, when unbound in privacy of home, enhance eroticism? Such is the perversity of humans’ imagination that forbidden fruit including bound feet forbidden from sight always tastes or looks better! :)</p>
<p>According to Wikipedia foot binding originated first among the elite and only in the wealthiest parts of China, “which suggests that binding the feet of well-born girls represented their freedom from manual labor and, at the same time, the ability of their husbands to afford wives who did not need to work, who existed solely to serve their men and direct household servants while performing no labor themselves. The economic and social attractions of such women may well have translated into sexual desirability among elite men.”</p>
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		<title>By: k1980</title>
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		<dc:creator>k1980</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 01:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>South Africa under apartheid imposed inferior education opportunities to its black people, so that they could not gain the knowledge to oppose their white tuans. Is this why PPSMI is thrown out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>South Africa under apartheid imposed inferior education opportunities to its black people, so that they could not gain the knowledge to oppose their white tuans. Is this why PPSMI is thrown out?</p>
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		<title>By: taiking</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/13/chaining-the-children-of-the-poor/comment-page-1/#comment-184552</link>
		<dc:creator>taiking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 01:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Najib got Prof Danny Quah of LSE to advise him on economic matters. Well didnt the son of kutty get bill gates to advise the multimedia supercorridor? Bill Gates left after a couple of yrs. No wonder what we now have is a superflop. Lets us see how long Prof Quah stays. 12 months? Less?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Najib got Prof Danny Quah of LSE to advise him on economic matters. Well didnt the son of kutty get bill gates to advise the multimedia supercorridor? Bill Gates left after a couple of yrs. No wonder what we now have is a superflop. Lets us see how long Prof Quah stays. 12 months? Less?</p>
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		<title>By: raven77</title>
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		<dc:creator>raven77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 00:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually Najib is still surrounded by the same advisers who almost lost him the Pekan seat in 2004 and used an all time high of phantom voters in 2008 to give him that false majority.....the same fellas probably gave the same advice regatrding blowing up a Mongolian girl, Anwar&#039;s sodomy, the Perak fiasco, fixing the judiciary, etc etc....

The PR must pay more attention to the chief of his advisors....Rosmah....Lee Kuan Yew did...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Najib is still surrounded by the same advisers who almost lost him the Pekan seat in 2004 and used an all time high of phantom voters in 2008 to give him that false majority&#8230;..the same fellas probably gave the same advice regatrding blowing up a Mongolian girl, Anwar&#8217;s sodomy, the Perak fiasco, fixing the judiciary, etc etc&#8230;.</p>
<p>The PR must pay more attention to the chief of his advisors&#8230;.Rosmah&#8230;.Lee Kuan Yew did&#8230;</p>
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