Cabinet decision on PPSMI – not a New Deal but a Raw Deal leaving Malaysia stranded in the march towards global educational quality, excellence and competitiveness


The Cabinet decision on the PPSMI (Pengajaran dan Pembelajaran Sains dan Matematik – teaching and learning of Science and Mathematics in English) yesterday was not a New Deal, as proclaimed by some newspaper headlines, but a Raw Deal leaving Malaysia stranded in the march towards global educational quality, excellence and competitiveness and doing a great disservice to millions of students currently in both the primary and secondary schools.

The Raw Deal of the PPSMI decision of the Cabinet is powerfully highlighted by the Sin Chew report of a national secondary school Form One student in Ipoh who burst into tears at the news of the Cabinet decision, feeling totally lost, worried what would be his future when he had to switch to Bahasa Malaysia for mathematics and science when entering Form 4 in 2012, after mastering both subjects being taught in English from Form 1 to 3 from this year to 2011 – and Form 4 and 5 are the most important years in a person’s education in preparing for Form 6, university and the world beyond.

Did the Cabinet Ministers discuss and envision the disastrous effect of their PPSMI decision yesterday on the half a million of students who would have been taught maths and science in the English medium from Form 1 to 3 from this year to 2011 in having suddenly to switch to Bahasa Malaysia as medium of instruction for these two subjects in 2012 in Form 4 – after six years of being guinea pigs of PPSMI in the primary schools?

If the Cabinet had not anticipated the cruelty and the sheer injustice of such a switch for Form 4 students in 2012, clearly the Cabinet Ministers had not thought through the whole issue thoroughly and they have failed the nation, the people and in particular the 5.5 million school-going generation under their charge!

This is not the only Raw Deal of the Cabinet’s PPSMI decision yesterday. The Cabinet decision yesterday cannot be the last word on the controversial subject and the whole issue must be re-opened for a broader, more liberal and flexible solution which would have far-reaching consequences not only to nation-building, nature of a society we want to build in Malaysia but also whether Malaysia can compete and stand tall with the rest of the world.

I am not surprised that the father of the PPSMI, Tun Dr. Mahathir Mohamad, is quite upset about the Cabinet decision yesterday.

I had right from the beginning in 2002 opposed Mahathir’s PPSMI, as it is educationally unsound because educational experience on bilingual education worldwide in the past three decades have shown that using a second language as a medium of instruction from too early stages can impede the development of thinking skills of children resulting in low achievement in mathematics, science and languages – powerful educational arguments against the use of English to teach maths and science from Std. One.

This argument does not apply for children whose home language is the English language or a total immersion education system is adopted with English as medium of instruction.

This is why I suggested a flexible approach to the PPSMI problem which does not allow a “One Size Fits All” solution, by giving parents the choice to decide on the type of education they want for their children – including having classes or schools using English as medium of instruction for mathematics and science.

Six years ago, Mahathir broached the idea of the possibility of the re-introduction of government English-medium school system to arrest the decline of the standard of English. Is Mahathir prepared to revisit and take up this proposal?

While I disagree with Mahathir’s “One Size Fits All” formula in forcing through the PPSMI for national, Chinese and Tamil primary schools from 2003, I share his dismay at the Cabinet decision to abandon the use of English to teach mathematics and science for Forms 1 and 4 from 2012.

As Mahathir said, he was only briefed of the Cabinet decision on the PPMSI but he was not consulted at all.

Mahathir said:

“I was only briefed about it, so after the briefing I gave my suggestions, I said even if it could not be implemented at primary level, at least at secondary level it should be maintained, so it was not a consultation only briefing.

“I am saddened because the future of our children will be affected. They will be the victims.”

It is even sadder to see Deputy Prime Minister and Education Minister, Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin, trying to argue the unarguable – the dismal failure of the PPSMI after six years and some RM4 billion of public expenditures an all-round decline!

The purpose of the ill-conceived PPSMI was to raise the standards of English, mathematics and science for Malaysian students which are imperative if Malaysia is not to continue its descent into a backwater, with one country after another overtaking the country in national development and progress.

The reasons prompting the PPSMI six years ago to transform Malaysia into a global powerhouse in English, maths and science were right, proper and should be supported but the approach in conceiving and implementing the PPSMI from Std. One was wrong.

The Cabinet’s PPSMI decision yesterday sought to address the fallacies of PPSMI – but it has failed to come up with a formula which commands public confidence that English, maths and science proficiency of Malaysian students would be upgraded for Malaysia to become a global powerhouse in these three subjects.

There must be a new round of national consultation and debate to give a genuine new deal to the millions of Malaysian students in schools which will redound to greater national economic prowess and international competitiveness, instead of a Raw Deal which negates the faults of PPSMI without any compensating or redeeming virtue.

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  1. #1 by k1980 on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 2:01 pm

    Job interview, some time in 2020

    Interviewer: Good morning.

    Job Applicant: Me say same same you.

    Interviewer: Why do you apply for this job?

    Job Applicant(shocked): No, me no use plier for chicken chop. Me use knife cut cut.

    Interviewer(rolling eyes): How much starting pay do you expect?

    Job Applicant(furious): Expect? Me no expecting. Me is man, no no born baby. Pay? You want me pay interview? You cheat cheat! Me go report polis!

    Interviewer(screaming to clerk): Tell everyone to pack up. We are closing this plant down and shifting to China tomorrow!

  2. #2 by raven77 on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 2:08 pm

    Malaysia has taken a giant step backwards just so the BN can keep bying rural votes….

    LKS..we are all done for if the PR doesnt come to power…

    However the greatest dissapointment has been Anwar’s support for the switch and PAS engaging Mat Sabu for the switch too….if there is no hope perhaps we parents really need to work harder to send our kids to private schools….

  3. #3 by SocratesPlato on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 2:10 pm

    There are only two options left:

    1. Hopefully Pakatan Rakyat can win the next election and stop this flipflop policy once and for all to have Maths and Science to be taught in English!

    2. If Option 1 fails, I move out of the country for the sake of my children’s future education. Give up on the country already!

  4. #4 by monsterball on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 2:18 pm

    Even in education….UMNO is playing politics.
    They are heading towards the right direction…but will the change their minds again?
    Giving Mahathir 3 hours briefing is showing UMNO is such an undemocratic racialist party.
    This involves all Malaysians and why not have a forum and invite all political party leaders….especially Anwar and LKS.
    Why hush hush briefing..only to mamak.
    We all know why….don’t we.
    Only talk about Malay benefits and getting votes..and other races must not listen to UMNO’s discussions on Malaysian children. It must be a system…to protect the weaknesses of Malays.

  5. #5 by SpeakUp on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 2:29 pm

    I think we need to look at this all in another light. Teaching SCIENCE and MATH in English is not the answer. IT IS NOT.

    The issue are:

    i. are our students WELL EDUCATED; and
    ii. do they have a good command of the language what will be used to communicate internationally.

    Come on, I am educated in English and my math 5ucks! My math teacher was Malay but taught us using English. My chemistry is cr@p but I excelled in Physics and Biology (school taught it in Malay). My inability to excel in math and chemistry was due to my laziness not the medium for teaching.

    Look at the Japanese and Chinese what do they teach math in? Let’s not look so far. Local Chinese schools teach in Mandarin but you know their students are top scorers!

    When I was doing a course in UM, some of my lecturers were Masters Degree Holders, taught in English but their knowledge is questionable. English did not help them.

    Let’s get the facts right. English is not the answer but the QUALITY of the education and how it prepares the students to deal on a global basis.

    Maybe LKS needs to open his mind more and see the real issues and stop hammering only.

  6. #6 by monsterball on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 2:38 pm

    Please allow me to go off the topic.
    Today papers ..and I quote…what Ong Tee Keat said.
    “RM4.38b soft loan, not a bail out.
    PKA not only has to repay the loan but also has to repay it with annual interest of 4 percent “..so said OTK.
    Malaysians borrow from banks…for anything…must prove it has the abilities to pay back.
    The have a standard rule to lend not more than 70% on housing loans and the cars you drive is not yours…until all installments paid…and outright loans of RM4,38 b….PKA must have assets….not less than RM20 billion.
    Does PKA have that…Ong never reveal.
    OTK never tell us…how much PKA is worth….ti give a sincere whole picture.
    If it is worthless…and if that is not bail out…what is it then?
    Ask any simple business person….how do one gets loan from banks.
    OTK said all that …to fool ordinary Malaysians..nie to hear…so logical….but actually full of lies and deceits.
    He knows he is a liar.
    Where will the RM4.38 B come from…EPF or Petronas?
    Whose money is that?
    So read and enjoy the hypocrites at their best.

  7. #7 by SpeakUp on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 2:49 pm

    Soft loan la … its important to give soft loans ok. You don’t understand ar? I mean loans without any collateral especially when the project is being bled and is totally dysfunctional is integral to the nation and its leaders. If not how to open a Swiss bank account?

    Anyone knows how nice Datuk Seli Ting Tong is in the office? Aaaaaaaah … he acts like a gangster there. Hammers the staff then tells them he will sack them and if they go to the labour office they will never succeed because he knows them all. :) Got tons of stories about this Ting Tong man la.

    But this is not new news, so why bother. They already moved on and will move out anytime from Malaysia and live in those lovely multi million US dollar homes.

  8. #8 by Godfather on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 3:06 pm

    SpeakUp said:

    “I think we need to look at this all in another light. Teaching SCIENCE and MATH in English is not the answer. IT IS NOT.”

    I disagree with this statement. Teaching Science and Maths in quality English is the answer to future progress and competitiveness. The ability to teach these subjects in English has gone downhill but it can be corrected with the right motivation and policies. To just reverse this is so blatantly short-sighted.

    PR must come up with a joint statement which attacks the BN government on this matter. If it doesn’t do so, then it does not augur well for the future of PR either.

  9. #9 by Emily Pratt on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 3:08 pm

    Example of future M’sian scientist and Mathematicians:

    i) Now the Kalium Karbonat when add to Natrium Hidrokloride will kos exploshen.

    ii) 20 push away 10 is 10.

    iii) You got Helikobakter Pailori infeksi, you need to eat eat medishen. I give you take 1 tablet two time a day. You finish food first then eat medishen ok.

    iii) Can diskaun ar? Can boss, RM 100 diskaun 10 persen is 90 lor…

    iv)Molekul karbon is ikat by power Van Der Vaals.

    Emily Pratt

    Emily Pratt

  10. #10 by sheriff singh on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 3:09 pm

    “..I am not surprised that the father of the PPSMI, Tun Dr. Mahathir Mohamad, is quite upset about the Cabinet decision yesterday.”

    Why do we always need his blessings and OK? Can’t anyone have his own independent thoughts and ways of doing things? Why is this man’s feelings so very important?

    The problem is this man thinks all his views and decisions are correct and must be carried out to the letter and there must be no deviations or corrections. Else he throws his tantrums.

    For 22 long years he had his way. Now he finds it hard to accept when he can’t have it his way.

  11. #11 by SpeakUp on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 3:17 pm

    I guess no one seems to understand that the issue is the QUALITY of education. Its seen that English is the answer for humanity. Amazing … I wonder what the German’s were speaking in 1940 when they were already working on the most interesting aeroplane designs, coming out with the V2, working on nuclear fusion etc. I guess it was English la … :)

  12. #12 by Jeffrey on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 3:24 pm

    The question whether to begin teaching maths and science in English at primary level or secondary level or mid of secondary level is not only fraught with complex problems but is actually a mere secondary compared to the primary and more important question to be asked: whether learning maths and science in English is to intended to improve (i) maths/science or (ii) English or (iii) both???

    I don’t have the benefit of research here.

    My guess/sense is that it (ie teaching maths and science in English) neither helps (i)(ii) nor (iii) very much if not in many cases making the 3 worse in each case!

    The beter course is to let the people /parents decide with options for their children:

    1. Those who want to excel in English could have government English-medium school system – from Primary all the way to secondary) (with strong emphasis on passing of Bahasa papers in deference to National Language) and with vernacular options ie a subject on Mandarin or Tamil.

    2. Those who want to excel in Mandarin/Bahasa/Tamil could opt for vernacular schools in Mandarin/Bahasa/Tamil (with equal strong emphasis on passing Bahasa papers in deference to National Language) and also English and/or English literature as a subject.

    3. Those in either stream above at primary level and want to change from 1 to 2 or 2 to 1 at secondary level are given a choice to do so.

    Good or bad, whichever permutations, let the people /parents decide with options for their children and take the consequences.

    What’s the problem with that? It’s democratic.

    Why allow linguist, cultural, racial chauvinists and activists dictate the national educational agenda that we must follow their way without a choice? Give people a choice : those who agree with them go for option 2,those not, for 1, those in-between, for 3!

    You can’t make these category of people happy and yet for pragmatic reasons of English being international lingua franca promote English by such a half measure…

  13. #13 by SpeakUp on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 3:32 pm

    Somehow many in Malaysia are ‘English-phobic’ … Malays, Chinese and Indians. I met too many who are about 20-30 years old and can hardly speak English. They even graduate from UK and US etc with good results, probably better than me but …

    Chinese label you “White Sh!t” if you speak more English. They think you are a “Banana” if you do not speak Chinese with them first. Malays in fast food outlets can hardly converse in English, order in English and they are lost. Indians … well, they usually can speak and even if they can’t they somehow do not seem to have hang ups about it.

    My aunt who has passed away was never fortunate to go to school. She spoke very fluent Malay and taught herself to speak, read and write English.

  14. #14 by Jeffrey on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 3:36 pm

    The above suggestions are based on these facts:

    1. that you cannot please everybody who has different views;

    2. Parents know their environment in which their children are in best than the government so let parents decide;

    3. So if parents make wrong choice let their children curse them instead of now both parents and children are cursing the government! :)

  15. #15 by SpeakUp on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 3:46 pm

    Jeff … true la … easier to send your parents to Old Folks home than to change the government! Hahahaha …

  16. #16 by Godfather on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 3:48 pm

    Jeffrey:

    We won’t have a problem with full, transparent democracy. Set the same questions for all the major exams in all languages. Mark them with the same standards. Don’t award 15 As to BM schools, but only 10As to English medium schools and 8As to Chinese medium schools. And then say that scholarships and entries to universities were awarded purely on merit.

    It’s manipulation in the guise of democratic principles that we should be worried about.

  17. #17 by Yee Siew Wah on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 3:49 pm

    Goodness gracious!! The flip flop disease is still rampant in BN.
    This time affecting the education quality of our students.
    That guy is not fit to be Education Minister in the first place.
    They are all playing politics with our education.
    Really amazing!!

  18. #18 by bennylohstocks on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 3:56 pm

  19. #19 by Kasim Amat on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 3:57 pm

    Malaysia has already advanced to this level and is now a fully industrialised country. I am sure English is no longer the most important topic for Malaysian because we have been equiped with the necessary skills to survive in this modern’s world, thanks to the efficient and open policies of UMNO government. I do not see things will go horribly wrong if Malaysian do not learn Enlglish at all. I work in government department and I seldom have chance to use English. With the rise of modern Malaysia, I would think we should instead emphasize Bahasa Malaysia more and make it an important language in the region. In future, I hope Asean would have it’s own common language and I think Bahasa Malaysia is more than qualified to be the one.

    Looking back, we have managed to send a man to the space and we also own our national car project which country like Singapore can never have one. With the rise of a modern Malaysia, the use of English in the teaching in maths and science is no longer as relevant. China and India are able to develop their own technologies without having their people to first master the English language, same as Korea and Japan. Like wise, Malaysia is able to do it. Malaysian are smarter in many areas and the education system in Malaysia is still one of the best in the world. As long as we can find an effective way for the children to learn maths and English, it is good enough. In order to reinforce the education system in the spirit of 1 Malaysia and make Bahasa Malaysia one of the important language in the region, the government should consider teaching maths and science in Malay. This is an important first step to bring our Malay fellow people on the world stage.

  20. #20 by SpeakUp on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 4:28 pm

    Kasim … your comments hold water but let’s get real. BM will never be the spoken language in the world. This was DSAI’s statement, let’s not forget it! However:

    i. ASEAN cannot have a common language other than English;
    ii. in a global economy English is very important. Soon it will be Mandarin with China expanding so so fast;
    iii. there are INSUFFICIENT books that have been PROPERLY translated into Malay. If we want to be proud then use less English in Malay.

    Yes, we all should speak good BM. I went overseas to study, I came back speaking BM still, why? Because I realised that I will not fight the system but work with it. I spoke good BM once, am proud of it. Now, its pathetic.

    Oh … we did not send a man to space … he was a space tourist. Let’s get that right!

  21. #21 by Godfather on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 4:32 pm

    Yes, my former bisnes partner Kasim Amat is now talking on behalf of UMNO. It is important that we “bring our Malay fellow people on the world stage”. Maths and Science in English is a problem for them, so let’s not cause this problem. Let’s give them an advantage. So that they can eventually lead a common language for ASEAN. Hahahaha….

  22. #22 by limkamput on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 4:54 pm

    What is this Science and Mathematics now back to BM? We should bring back the Full English schools as another choice for Malaysians who wish to send their children to such schools. I suggest we make a survey to find out how many percent of the total Malaysian parents prefer to send their children to full English schools.

  23. #23 by Loh on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 4:57 pm

    It is true that children before the age of 12 can pick up languages easier than when they are older. It is not true that people can be equally good at all the languages they learn; one of them would be the master language over all the others. People are different and their ability to learn languages differs. It can even be true that to some, the second, or third language one commands might be better that the only language the other learns, even if they complete the same standard of higher education. But on average, young students would be able to think and understand better using the language that they are most familiar with. For students in of vernacular schools, it should be the medium of instruction.

    The need to switch course after 6 years of implementation is because the political master thought he knew better than experts. If he could allow the standard of English to slide right from 1970, to 32 years later, it does not make sense that a change should be made immediately after a dream, and without the inputs from experts. A sample of classes and schools in different situation could have been selected to conduct studies on how best to improve the standard of English. Some might have more English lessons while others could be taught directly as the policy decides. But the Education Minister decided to go head on. Six years after the full scale implementation, the Ministry still has no clues on how such objective could be met, other than concluding that the country wide exercises for the past 6 years have failed.

    Experience in the past from Chinese secondary schools which implemented English as the medium of instruction for all subjects other than the languages, of course, showed that students who had Chinese as the medium of instruction for all subject from primary schools had no difficulty passing examinations conducted by the Cambridge Examination syndicates. Indeed, the difficulties faced by those students were in getting a good score for English language, and it was easy meat for them in other subjects, answered in English.

    The government has the knack of doing the wrong thing out of correct objective. If the teaching of mathematics and science in English are retained for secondary schools, but the switch is made to the medium of instruction in primary vernacular schools, the revised policy can begin immediately in the new school year 2010. There was no need to wait until 2012. It is clear therefore that the classes which had started using English in primary schools might be allowed to continue, depending on the choice of the schools concerned. Students in year 1 entering school in 2010 should follow the revised policy. The use of English in secondary school should continue. Since students would have been provided strong grounding in their first language in primary school, they should begin to use English for all subjects in secondary school. The five years in secondary school should be ample time for students to reach an acceptable command of the English language, especially when the government is taking actions to improve the standards of English in primary schools.

    Almost all countries in the world are paying attention to the teaching of English. Korea was reported to be interested to learn about the experience gained by Malaysia. The important point is that they did not rush in knowing that even one other country had applied it for the past six years. They might have implemented right away had Japan implemented such a policy!

    Vast resources have been utilized to carry out the country wide exercise. We should not be throwing good money after the bad.

    TDM’s argument on the use of English makes sense. The issue is how to get the students to achieve the capability. Using English as the medium of instruction should help to meet the objective. O the reduced scale, the old policy of teaching mathematics and science in English in secondary schools should stay.

    There would be no controversy if politicians did not politicize technical matters. Blame it on TDM for not specifying in 2002 that the teaching of English for mathematics and science should begin only in secondary schools. If it was meant to be for primary schools then he should have brought back the English medium schools of the pre 1970 days.

    Blame it on the former Education Minister who did not use his head to start the teaching of English and science in secondary schools. He should know that it would not work in primary schools, and he had been told by educationalists of the vernacular schools. Instead, kerismuddin wanted to use it to weaken the capability of students in Chinese and Tamil school, in the standards in their mother tongues, and mathematics and science.

    The Malaysians students have suffered for six years, and fortuitously Kerismuddin had been replaced.

    TDM is still making waves. Is he planning to overthrow Najib and Muhyiddin? That would be a good excuse for getting his son in place to flesh out his dynastic plan.

  24. #24 by SpeakUp on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 5:09 pm

    Loh … that was one long post. It was a good read I must say.

  25. #25 by Loh on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 5:11 pm

    ///I work in government department and I seldom have chance to use English.///– Kassim Amat

    The British and its colonies used to recruit the best into their government services. Yes, Malaysia is a sovereign independent and we are entitled to have independent standards. As the saying goes, Malaysia builds its car inside the enclosed house without taking into consideration how the car is ever going to be used. That is why NEP caters for competition within the country with the government acts as the referee. BM would be sufficient within its frontier. Ignorant is bliss, knowledge of one’s position in comparison to others, especially when one has not the ability to match up is disheartening.

    Malaysia Boleh sound right in enclosed Malaysian space.

  26. #26 by limkamput on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 5:22 pm

    Kasim Amat Says:
    Malaysia has deteriorated such much it is now almost a basket case. We have destroyed English proficiency to the extent that Malaysians are now ill-equipped to face and survived in this modern world. Situations will become worse if more and more Malaysians become illiterate in English. Even government departments and civil servants need to master the language as the world becomes more globalised and competitive. English will become the language of ASEAN given its commonality and its status as the language of the world.

    Looking back, some stupid Malaysians feel very proud that we are able to send a passenger into the orbit and we are able to make some sub-standard national cars when other countries would have considered such projects a waste of valuable national resources. We are indeed a nation of stupid people managed by nut people. To reverse the course we must reintroduce full English schools, not just science and mathematics. Even China and India, with their large indigenous technologies and critical mass are also now learning English in the big way. We like to quote Japan and Korea for being able to make progress without learning English in the big way. But we forgot most Malaysians can’t hold more than three variables when compared to Japanese and Koreans. Therefore, it is another stupid idea to compare with these two countries.

    Because of our misplaced national pride, Malaysia has destroyed a good education system the country once had. It is so sad to see the gradual demise of this great nation, due largely to people like Kasim Amat and the asses who think like him.

    Thank you.

  27. #27 by i_love_malaysia on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 5:39 pm

    Malaysia is again showing its ability to change!!! Change not for the betterment of its people for the future but change for the worst of its people!!! It is for the short term gain but long term pain!!! May be BN knows that too many people especially the young regardless of race can speak, read and write english very well now adays that they are scare!!! Why??? Because they will read and write in the blogs and know the truth which BN is trying to hide!!! Another generation lost because of the present day lousy politicians’ decision!!!

  28. #28 by Bigjoe on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 5:40 pm

    Was it just yesterday that I said Najib was going to squander away his 65% approval rating? I must be clairvoyant…

    The man don’t have what it takes when it comes to the truly tough problem. He don’t have the brains for its…

  29. #29 by OrangRojak on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 5:46 pm

    Loh Says: TDM is still making waves.
    It’s nostalgia, isn’t it? For all his apparent faults, he was at the helm of the nation during a period of massive growth. It could be a coincidence. Malaysians seem to look up to TDM like a money-god. It’s like my neighbour who once struck 4d after putting some very expensive fruit in the thing outside her house that I mistook for a post box on first arriving in Malaysia. She must have spent many times what she won on super expensive fruit since, in the belief the 4d win was in some way caused by the original offering. Do you offer fruit or sacrifice it? I’m so ignorant.

    I think Malaysia might be suffering from malaise. The truth is leaking out of the bag all over – things could be better. People don’t have as much faith that the country is heading in the right direction as they once did. UMNO needs TDM (just noticed it sounds like tedium) to pontificate over their actions because Malaysians will believe they will strike 4d under UMNO’s rule if TDM smiles down on UMNO. In the absence of critical comment, TDM’s beneficence is as close as UMNO is going to get to a credible (in the eyes of the rakyat) assessment of their performance.

    That’s why UMNO keep involving him so publicly, isn’t it? I imagine there are plenty of dark horses with their fingers deep in the nation’s pies who exert enormous influence over the nation’s course, but they don’t have TDM’s god-like status. Maybe I’m wrong.

  30. #30 by HJ Angus on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 5:49 pm

    Regarding space travel, even monkeys and dogs have gone into orbit so I wonder what is so great about being a space tourist except you become a kind of Malaysian Idol.
    Granted that knowledge can be gained using any language, I think the most rational argument for using English in those 2 subjects for Malaysians is that it is the most common foreign language that we can learn and that for international business and acquiring skills in technology, English is one of the main languages – even China recognises this and employs thousands of foreign ESL teachers.
    This is a major policy failure and instead of rectifying their faults, the MoE is doing this flip-flop.
    Time we have the government a flip-flop too by voting them out in the next elections.
    http://malaysiawatch4.blogspot.com/2009/07/malaysiakini-reports-two-takes-on.html

  31. #31 by chengho on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 5:53 pm

    Mahathir alway right……
    uncle kit… your defacto leader Anwar and Pas what a dissapointment you cannot control them..oop …advice them the world moving without u in english…

  32. #32 by mangodurian on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 6:00 pm

    This is the time where I have to say how dissapointed I am with PR, and by inference DAP for that matter in having also a hand in opposing the teaching … or presence of English in our schools.

    Looks like politicians are politicians, we know that English is good and needed, yet you politicians played into the hands of political calculance to bring the death knell of English to our kids.

    Shame on all of you politicians!

    NOW GIVE US OUR CHOICE BACK – GIVE US ENGLISH NATIONAL SCHOOLS

  33. #33 by oneway8 on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 6:07 pm

    Many urbanites and professionals like myself were indeed dismayed by the announcement to revert the teaching of Science and Maths to Malay or vernacular languages. It appears that we are regressing backwards. Education was at its best during the yesteryears of the 50′s till 70′s whereby medium of instruction was in English and best of schools were the missionary schools like St John, MBS, St Francis and etc. Then, there was a fair mix of races in the class unlike the situation today whereby the typical Sekolah Kebangsaan is predominantly Malay as the overwhelming number of Chinese send their kids to Chinese schools.

    It cannot be denied that missionary schools like St John, MBS etc were the best of schools. It indeed made one proud of the heritage apart from the knowledge one seeks. It is more than just the education it imparts but the character it moulds one to be. The uniqueness and characteristics of missionary schools are evident in its Gregorian style architecture, the school tie, badge, the Latin inscriptions beneath it etc. Compare this to our typical sekolah kebangsaan whereby you see one and you have seen it all. There no sense of uniqueness in them. It appears that we are regressing backwards when it comes to primary and secondary education ever since we gained independence in 1957.

    The situation is further made worse when the medium of instruction was changed from English to Malay in 1970. Ever since then, we saw how badly the standard of education has deteriorated into. This is evident from our local universities’ ranking by world’s standard. Our University of Malaya was the beacon and possibly the top University in the region in the 60s and early 70s. Today, it does not make it even to the top 20 universities in Asean and not even top 200 universities of the world.

    In the past, missionary schools in Malaysia have royal families of Thailand and Brunei schooling in them. Today, the trend is reverse whereby well to do Malaysian families will see their children are educated in secondary schools of Singapore and Australia apart from private or international schools of the nation whereby medium of instruction is in English.

    What has this country become especially with regards to the standard of education? The deterioration in the system and the change of medium from English to Malay was all done by Najib’s father, the late Tun Razak in his Razak report which outlines the objective of doing away English-medium schools. However, Najib attended missionary school of St John before pursuing his further studies in UK. His youngest brother, Nazir Razak, CEO of CIMB, Group was schooling in Alice Smith International school before reading philosophy in Cambridge. It appears that Tun Razak himself placed more faith in the old system than the system he propogated. Hence, it is not surprising that only a small handful of our Ministers actually send their children to the typical Sekolah Kebangsaan. Cakap tak serupa bikin! The Rakyat now pays the ultimate price for this decline.

  34. #34 by SpeakUp on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 6:07 pm

    I like hot shooting people like Limkaput .. he says basically, those who oppose the use of English have caused a great demise and are asses. I am pretty sure the illustrious DSAI said recently that it was good to do away with English in teaching math and science. So I guess Anwar is an ASS! He likes it that way … :)

  35. #35 by newchief on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 6:21 pm

    u can get nowhere if your knowledge of a certain language is inadequate. i’m a chinese & i must say my chinese readings FLOP!!! this i will regret because during my time, my chinese teachers didn’t say chinese is a good language to communicate and get info. imagine i going to hong kong and taiwan and seeing all the big menu food orders written in chinese but know NONE OF IT.

    muyhiddin has said that teachers teaching maths and science in english only uses 53% of the language—THAT’S THE PROBLEM!!! he should has instruct these allotted teachers to undergo training instead of ‘playing around’ with malaysian kids as guinea pigs!!

    mathatir realised his mistakes when he barred english but in the end, he realised it. it takes A BRAVE MAN to change his own mistake!!! the thing is,he didn’t apologise though.

    hopefully,bn will MAKE SURE English is taught with commitments by the teachers and not 1/2 1/2 only now. i just will feel pity for the less rich people if they need to pay tuition fees for their kids in future though.

    by the way, anwar of PK also said to do away with english !!!! so we have here, both bn and pk sending our kids BACKWARDS …don’t know who to vote anymore….maybe cin-chai cin-chai luh. i fear malaysia will be doomed soon when it comes to talking to foreigners. hopefully, all mps now start TALKING BM to foreigners since they say BM IS IMPORTANT. impress me please.

  36. #36 by House Victim on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 6:50 pm

    1. The purpose of learning Math & Science is to allow the students to acquire those fundamental knowledge for their daily life, earning a living and to help their further study or self-learning in their life time.

    2. The availability of good books and teachers both in quantity and quality should be the basic criteria to allow such system to start. The availability of information for further study and acquiring in time to come is even more important. Does Malaysia has these criteria?
    I believe China, Japan, or, Korea have more to offer or ready than Malaysia. But, they promote their People in learning foreign languages because they understanding the Importance of Golbalizetion!!

    3. Can Malaysia grow or even self-supporting without going global such that Bahasa is good enough for Malaysian? Can the Government provide jobs for all those knowing only Bahasa?

    4. The agenda of such will make more Malaysian “isolated” from the rest of the world (may be except Indonesia!) so that the People cannot spread their grievance to the World or learn Democracy or Human Rights from the World!!

    Allowing more Bahasa speaking people to get job in teaching , publishing of books, etc.. Is it the 1MALAY that the Government is emphasizing?

    THE GOVERNMENT CARE NOTHING ABOUT SCIENCE & MATHS BUT THE LANGUAGE!!

    HOW CAN THAT BE DONE IN THE CABINET WITHOUT DEBATES AND OPINION FROM THE PEOPLE? The Parliament and People are Transparent to the Cabinet!! Does the Constitution allow it so??
    Or, is Malaysia a Real Constitution Monarchy?

  37. #37 by Ramesh Laxman on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 7:29 pm

    Wew must support this decision. This is the best present that the Cabinet has given to us Malaysians.

  38. #38 by johnnypok on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 7:43 pm

    Aiyah, so simple yet make it so difficult. Go learn from Great Singapore where the English standard and every kind of standard are sky high.

  39. #39 by mother of three on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 7:56 pm

    This Pakatan Rakyat is really hopeless.DSAI support PPSMI and the other party oppose.Now,the best part is my children are the victim.Why so stupid????why blame the students,blame the teachers who’re incapable of teaching in english.

    Uncle Kit,

    Appreciate if you could propose in parliment for “Sekolah Rendah Jenis Kebangsaan English”.Most of us looking forward for english medium school.Whoever want to study in their mother tongue can go to Malay, Chinese or Tamil schools.

  40. #40 by mother of three on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 8:02 pm

    DSAI oppose PPSMI and what you expect as he’s a product of UMNO and the mindset difficult to change.I really regret for voting PR.The next election I won’t trust and vote for PKR & PAS.Almost one year more than enough to learn about their true colours.

  41. #41 by mother of three on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 8:08 pm

    At least “TUN Mahathir” bring this country forward but current politicians are moving this country backwards.Maybe they do not want Malaysians to be smart and against them.They want all of us to be stupid and “yes man”.

  42. #42 by monsterball on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 8:13 pm

    Education has always been part of UMNO’s agenda to play politic with it…and it takes an idiot like chengho to say the devil is always right.
    The subject is and still is..Malaysians student and so call graduates speak and write.. lousy English.
    Mamak said…teaching Science and Maths into English will solve the problem.
    Now UMNO is on the right track…to teach English as a subject and to have qualified teachers to do that from Std One…onwards.
    Why does it take so long for these UMNO blockheads to solve a simple thing.
    Focusing not yo loose votes…how to hide and help Malays weaknesses without offending them…so as not to loose their votes…all these have been going on for decades.
    It seems to cool of Mahathir..his son is given the rights to supply thousands of computers..to program all schools…to latest and final decision.
    Everything involves…votes .. corruptions and favoritism..by UMNO.
    Part of the many reasons why parents send their children to Chinese schools is the low class teachers in National schools…plus their lousy English…spoken by teachers themselves.
    Ofcourse…maths is the uniqueness .. in Chinese schools.

  43. #43 by limkamput on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 8:16 pm

    The issue is not just about English proficiency. The issue is also mental change among Malaysians. If Malaysians are proficient in English, the reading materials, news, and music exposed to would bring about mental change, making us more cosmopolitan and less parochial. Right now, this country is too old fashion, feudal and archaic. That is why we have gradually become a stupid nation.

  44. #44 by ctc537 on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 8:34 pm

    Generally, Malay students love the subject of History more than students from other races. Why not teach History and Living skills in English instead? It will spur students to study History more since it is taught in English. The government should consider importing English and Literature textbooks from United Kingdom to lend this government policy a sense of importance and quality.

  45. #45 by madguyho on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 8:47 pm

    Why not back to BM in 2010 or 2011? That’s 2 years away and why the hurry to announce the switch? My assumptions are, they have no guts to switch back to BM immediately, sensing that might anger Dr. M. They are buying time to sense the public outcry and to flip-flop the policy before 2012.

    Secondly, they know they won’t be at the helm by 2012. That’s the PAKATAN problem by 2012. They only set the time bomb for PAKATAN to diffuse in 2012.

  46. #46 by OrangRojak on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 8:59 pm

    Why is ‘mother of 3′ asking for English medium schools? Are schools obliged to teach their pupils of 3 government approved races all about 1 of 4 government approved religions in one of 3 government-approved languages? Are there english-medium schools? I don’t recall seeing one near here. Would they be more popular with the end of PPSMI? Even possible?

  47. #47 by tsn on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 9:00 pm

    Government is not the solution of the problem, government is the problem. Those who dream of pre-1970 English school, my suggestion is ‘forget about it’. Apart from lack of political will, now, we certainly do not have resources to run English school. Just be realistic with our weak ringgit, how many English teachers can we bring in from US/UK/Canada/NZ/Australia. With not-so-lucrative salary, even our own good English breeds shun teaching profession.
    Probably we can settle for second tier as our public hospitals, recruiting from India, Myamar….

    So mother of three if you still dream your sons/daughters to chant a is apple instead of api, be prepared for financial haemorrhage, private school or Singapore is where you fulfil your dream. Bolehland is where your dream completely shattered.

  48. #48 by Loh on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 9:25 pm

    If one thinks in slow motion, it is less likely that one would get confused.

    Opposing PPSMI does not equal to opposing the learning of English, or the teaching of English. It is only against the method declared by TDM on getting the students to be proficient in English.

    Opposing PPSMI means only the total package under the scheme where the teaching begins in primary school. The policy is sound if PPSMI begins only in secondary school.

    If the government is dogmatic in either having it half wrong by continuing with PPSMI starting from primary school, or by rejecting it all together rather than have it right to confine PPSMI in secondary school, then it is less harmful to reject PPSMI all together.

    If the government is interested to work towards improving the standards of English beginning from primary school, then they should be able to begin teaching in English on the two subjects or even more subjects from secondary schools.

    By rejecting PPSMI, primary school students would be able to attain good grounding on the standards in Chinese, for which I have seen examples, and they will be able to continue the pursue the study of the language on their own’ if necessary. MCA Presient Ong Tee keat has a good command of Chinese despite having only primary 6 in formal Chinese education.

    It should be beneficial to the learning of English if the medium of instruction for secondary school would be English. PPSMI should therefore be extended to include other subjects.

    Since the government has indicated that it would allocate more resources to teach English, rejecting PPSMI does not signal that the government would pursue Ketuanan Bahasa Malaysia pioneered by Rahman Yakub. Since they would only implement the revised policy in 2012, it means that primary one and two students would suffer when the switch over takes place then.

  49. #49 by vsp on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 9:27 pm

    Bahasa Malaysia has degenerated into a vegetarian language. It is a pale imitation of English because of many imported words from English just to keep up appearances of being modern. If that is so, why not just adopt the original language instead? Why go to the trouble of inventing the wheel and in the process poisoning one race against another. Let English be the neutral leveler so that nobody will claim “my language is more superior than your language”. We once did adopt this approach but because of some nationalist bigot who don’t value good things, they behave just like the proverbial saying of casting pearls before swine.

    Why do I say that BM is like a vegetarian language. There are many people who try to be vegetarians but they still like the taste of meat, e.g. mutton, fish and so on. So those vegetarian cooks obliged them by imitating the original by using artificial flavours and other types of chemicals to create a distant copy of the original. When you have too many artificial add-ons it becomes more dangerous than the original. Why not eat the original instead of creating a dangerous copy?

    Therefore I think Bahasa Malaysia is similar to this analogy.

  50. #50 by johnnypok on Thursday, 9 July 2009 - 9:49 pm

    If we can become an economy giant like China maybe the use of BM can be emphasized more effectively.
    If we can produce an outstanding scientist who made a new discovery that benefit the world, maybe we can proudly insist to use BM.
    We are still learning how to walk, yet we are trying to fly, stupid.

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