Care to read again my last comment?

The resident should better where they stand and the Federal Court had decided on their case after all due process.

Creating unrest and mentioning threats is unbecoming of them and will reflect poor on their character and their groups.

http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/23991/84/

Look at PAS here, they are not antagonistic, they say that Thomas and gang should not be blamed as they are only involved at the tail end of things. This is being fair.

Best of all I like this:

“Pada tahun 80-an, berhampiran pusat penyembelihan itu juga terdapat pusat penyembelihan lembu dan kerbau. Apabila diarahkan berpindah oleh pihak berkuasa tempatan setelah tempat tersebut dianggap tidak sesuai, mereka berpindah tanpa banyak soal. Tiada pihak pun yang melakukan provokasi perkauman.”

Looks like the piggy businessmen are being unreasonable. :)

If there is any illegality its too late, the villagers should raise it in their case against the developers, its not for the CM/State Government to do it as he is not the aggrieved party. A Federal Court order stands and stop saying its full of corrupt judges. The judges will not be interested to be corrupt in this case, not worth their trouble ok.

The CM DOES NOT have any powers that SUPERSEDES the courts, not even the Magistrates Court. He is BELOW the judiciary in this instance.

You say the CM needs to act as what the LOSING residents want? WOW!!! Then lawless la … why go to court? BN does that and we all used to scream blue murder. So now can la for those villagers? Make more exceptions issit?

Use compulsory acquisition in this case? If LGE does that to appease 30 families then you will see Penang devoid of investors. Let’s see what happens then. Also, no need to pay for the land issit? Idi Amin rules Penang issit?

You talk so much without looking into depth at all. Please la … not so simple ok.

Also, the state government must also clarify and rebut the claims that under the National Land Code and the use of Land Acquisition Act to forcibly acquire the land on the ground of public interest, that the Chief Minister has the power to supersede Federal Court judgement, is not true, that if the CM proceed to act as demanded by the residents, his action is close if not, a classic example of abuse of position and power.

I hope that the Penang state government will provide a satisfactory report with regard to the case of Kampung Buah Pala and other similar cases under its purview ASAP, so to avoid the current issue being taken out of context, and use as an advantage by the state’s political enemies to further confuse Penangites and Malaysian in general.

http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/23986/84/

Now BN will steal the thunder and no one will say its because KTK caused it. If a solution is given then the villagers will sing the praises of BN. High time PR politicians learn about what “PR” really is and what it can do.

I read in the papers that the developer had offered each family RM200,000. With 300 families, that would work out to RM60 million. Now, if the developer could pay RM60 mil to move the residents out, how much do you think the developer would need to paid if they are to be ‘persuaded’ to give up the land?

More disturbing was rumours flying around, that the residents were demanding a payment of RM600,000 each. Now that would cost RM180 million. Even half that, it would be RM90 million. So when the Hindraf claims that the land can be saved with just RM30 million, who are they fooling… or perhaps, they did not do the sums?

I only wish that the Hindraf and the activists had taken a firmer stand and strong stance when Dr Koh Tsu Khoon and the BN were in power… If they had signed off the land to croonies, maybe, who knows, they with the stroke of a pen, can persuade the developer to give up the land..

As an outsider, I would not want to judge… But the people of Penang will have to bear the grunt of the consequence, shld the CM do what the Hindraf and residents ask…. For the entire state to be bankrupt so that 300 families can have what was stolen from them (but regretably been done legally, since the MACC has not have found any wrong doing so far concerning past acts of the Gerakan govt).

About time the people of Penang speak up as well, becuz this is not just about the 300 families, or the Indian communities, but every penangite.

If the facts in recent articles about there being a trust is true, its too late also. A decision has been made in the Federal Court, if that was not argued then tough luck. It cannot be brought up by the villagers now. Its called res judicata … a Latin term for “a matter already judged”. Basically, case closed.

For all we know, maybe there is no trust, only some joker who says there seems to be one. I am sure the villagers’ lawyers cannot be that bad or dumb not to raise it, with evidence of course.

There are 3 things wrong with this. Firstly, this will make PR no better than BN. The Penang govt will come off as a bully who can grab private land for a song. Secondly, it will cause fear to other landowners and potential investors. Thirdly, the compensation offered can be challenged in court and Penang govt. may lose.

The reality is that the villagers have already lost their land. Yes, the Court may have been unfair (Augustine Paul was one of the judges) but it is still a court decision. The only way now as LGE suggested is to negotiate for an agreeable compensation from the developer. If they want to vent their emotion, go and bang on the gates of Gerakan.

The Penang govt can help by twisting the developer’s arm as it can withhold approval of building plans. If the villagers stubbornly refuse to move or demand unreasonable compensation, then there’s not much the Penang govt can do except leave them to the mercy of the developer.

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2009/7/5/nation/4260095&sec=nation

Makes sense …

Talking tough doesn’t mean reversing the court decision or not following the law. It means playing some politics, give some vague warnings to the developer, statement of solidarity with the residents, etc so that the developer will be more amiable to negotiation. LGE’s hand wringing that he could not do anything emboldened the developer to declare that they will not offer any compensation and infuriated the residents.

limkamput Says:

Today at 14: 29.17 (1 hour ago)
I have said many times earlier, the CM of Penang is not at the disposal of HINDRAF. At least this writer (G. Krishnan) is suggesting that HINDRAF should be reasonable and deal with LGE to seek out an amicable solution. For me, it is simple: No deal with extremists and racists. Let HINDRAF shout and demonstrate whatever they want. The organisation is already a spent force.

I heard over the news that each family in Kampung Buah Pala will be given 200k but we have a resident who so arrogantly claimed his house has 5 families and therefore should be given a million. This is the type of coconut heads we are dealing with. I say be compassionate to the extent with can, the rest can go to hell. We have enough of scumbags holding this country to ransom.

If the PR state government can resolve this issue amicably, you will win a lot of people’s confidence and goodwill and will augur well for the future of Pakatan.

Yes, Tsu Koon did sell the land below market price to Pegawai Pulau Pinang. He was wrong.

Yes, it was not the fault of the PR government to inherit this baggage from BN and get blamed for it.

Yes, the developer refuse to negotiate further and had to be blacklisted by the state government.

We can all debate this issue until the cows come home but it will come to nothing.

In all this, we need a solution to house the villagers of KG Buah Pala.

Understandly the vilaagers cannot get back their original house back at Kg Buah Pala. However, the state can look for an alternative place probably on the mainland and purchase estate land at probably RM 50K to RM 100K an acre to develop a village where all the villagers can live in a community again .

The cost had to be shared out by the developer, the state government as well as the villagers. The cost of land purchase and developing house on it may come to a few million dollars. This is worth the effort as it is part of the state government and the developer social responsibilty.

Also, it will not cost the state to the tune of 40 million as reported.

In this way, the state government is seen to be responsive to the needs of the rakyat, the developer is happy that his land can be developed quickly free from the state imposing a development order ban on the area and the villagers are happy to live together in a community of their own.

Great man resolves issues for the betterment of all.