(The headline for the Malaysian Insider “No let-up as Kit Siang continues attacks against PAS ahead of Kedah trip” is not correct, as it is not reflected in the contents of its report.
It implied that I was continuing to “attack” the Pakatan Rakyat government in Kedah. This is not the case.
It further implied that I had attacked the PR Kedah state government yesterday. This was also not the case.
Pakatan Rakyat is facing a second crisis of confidence and efforts must be made to resolve it.
This is why I am not only meeting the Kedah State DAP tomorrow but also have a dialogue with the people of Kedah in Alor Star tomorrow night. (New Straits Times today had wrongly reported that I would be meeting residents in the abbatoir area when I said I would be having a people’s dialogue in Alor Star).
Both the Malaysian Insider and New Straits Times report are reproduced below.)
No let-up as Kit Siang continues attacks against PAS ahead of Kedah trip
By Asrul Hadi Abdullah Sani
PETALING JAYA, July 3 — In deflecting suggestions that a trivial issue led to the DAP pulling out of the Kedah Pakatan Rakyat (PR) state government, Lim Kit Siang fell back on a cliche, and argued that the pigs were just “the straw that broke the camel’s back”.
In a shocking announcement, Kedah DAP announced on Wednesday its decision to pull out of the state government after local authorities demolished the state’s only pig abattoir.
But Lim said today that the abattoir was not the sole reason for the state DAP’s decision.
He pointed out that the abattoir issue was symptomatic of the PAS-led state government’s failure to perform and take into account the views of the public.
“Personally, I think the issue in Kedah is not about pigs but the people. It is not about the abattoir even.
“The reason for what happened Kedah is that Kedah DAP felt many issues concerning the people of Kedah were not taken account by the state government. The issue of the abattoir was the straw that broke the camel’s back,” he told reporters at DAP headquarters here today.
Lim will be heading to Kedah tomorrow to meet with his party members.
The DAP veteran also plans to meet with the grassroots and gauge public sentiment on the issue.
PR’s crisis in Kedah is just the latest problem to hit the alliance of DAP, PAS and PKR.
PAS is also continuing its flirtation with Umno, and has proposed talks between the Youth wings of the two Malay-Muslim parties.
Such developments have led to an escalation of efforts to quickly bring together the three parties in a more permanent structure akin to the formal coalition of the rival Barisan Nasional (BN).
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Another PR “crisis of confidence”
By : Joseph Sipalan
KUALA LUMPUR: DAP adviser Lim Kit Siang said the Kedah DAP’s determination to quit the state government spelled a “crisis of confidence” in Pakatan Rakyat.
He described his party’s latest dispute with Pas as the alliance’s
second such crisis coming after senior leaders in the Islamist party proposed unity talks with Umno.
Lim, the member of parliament for Ipoh Timur, said he was “shocked” by the Kedah DAP’s decision to pull out of the state Pakatan over the razing of an illegal pig abattoir in Alor Star.
He said it was still too early to come to any conclusions as he had not been briefed on the complaint by state DAP chairman Thomas Su Keong
Siong.
Su, however, said yesterday that an official letter had been faxed to party secretary-general Lim Guan Eng confirming the state DAP committee’s decision to leave the Pas-led state government.
He said he expected the party central executive committee to meet on the matter soon.
“We have to wait for the report, though I must admit there is considerable frustration that their (DAP Kedah’s) views are not taken seriously.
“Undoubtedly, this will not be taken lightly. We view this situation with grave seriousness,” he said at a press conference at the Parliament lobby.
Lim said he would go to Alor Star tomorrow to meet the state DAP and residents in the abattoir area for their views.
Opposition leader Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim said the dispute could be resolved within Pakatan.
“We will consider their (Kedah DAP’s) grouses, but I will also talk to the menteri besar,” he said at the Parliament lobby.
Menteri Besar Datuk Seri Azizan Abdul Razak gave no indication yesterday that he would back down from his stand on the abattoir.
#1 by SpeakUp on Friday, 3 July 2009 - 5:26 pm
Mr LKS … we don’t care about what the media writes, we don’t care if you attacked or not la. They will spin spin spin. We want to see you all WORK TOGETHER SINCERELY. Can that ever happen?
Me personally, I doubt it because of late you do not even stand up for things that are wrong within. You keep quiet only but attack attack BN non stop. Why like that? Fair is fair right? Are you a fair man?
#2 by wesuffer on Friday, 3 July 2009 - 5:31 pm
how come recently pakatan always being headline of paper ?
it is related to coming by election ?
who is behind the scene ?
do we think MR 1 WILL SITTING and do nothing to face another by election defect?
#3 by SpeakUp on Friday, 3 July 2009 - 5:41 pm
Why? Because they really are bickering too much and giving BN a great opportunity for a great publicity stunt. This is why PR will never be successful until they learn not to give BN an OPEN GOAL!
PR within itself is still selfish
PR has no sense of statesmanship
PR is led by someone who is vengeful
PR has no idea about PR – PUBLIC RELATIONS
PR has members who are dodgy, not meaning BN trojan ok, they on their own are questionable
Hey … come on, let’s still support blindly.
#4 by voice on Friday, 3 July 2009 - 6:51 pm
Pakatan leaders must sit down on a round table and discuss, not only to meet the people but also please meet up with the Kedah MB, and also to Guan Eng, the situation is not good in Penang, better to plan and solve the problem before some of the people change their views about PR, keep in mind that this is the most important aspect to PR, it is a key to victory, or total defeat, destroying our hopes.
#5 by zak_hammaad on Friday, 3 July 2009 - 6:53 pm
A point often comes in any political marriage between disparate groups when the initial euphoria of association changes to despair, squabbles and a final parting of ways.
In the case of the Hindu Rights Action Force’s (Hindraf) association with Pakatan Rakyat in general and the DAP in particular, that point of disengagement has arrived.
The spark for a parting of ways is the fight between the DAP and Hindraf, a movement banned by the authorities last year as an extremist organisation, over saving the century-old Indian settlement of Kampung Buah Pala in Penang.
The village is up for demolition and redevelopment into condominiums.
The DAP says the settlers, mostly cowherds, should take the compensation, move out and start a new life.
Hindraf leaders like founder P. Uthayakumar, however, argue that the DAP should use state land laws and forcibly acquire the land, pay compensation and preserve the area as a heritage site of early Indian migration and settlement.
The DAP would have been the first to agree to such an expansive proposal. In fact, the DAP had demanded the heavens in its heyday as a opposition party and the Barisan Nasional had to squirm to explain and deflect the unfeasible demands.
Now the roles are reversed with Hindraf demanding and the DAP, running Penang, squirming to deflect, with the Barisan watching from the sidelines.
#6 by jt84 on Friday, 3 July 2009 - 7:12 pm
This issue must be blown out of proportion or Pakatan Rakyat further lose its credibility under continous attacks from main-stream media propaganda and UMNO/Barisan Nasional. I agree with an article written online (http://joshblogspace.blogspot.com/2009/07/minor-dissection-on-pakatan-rakyats-2nd.html) that KEDAH DAP’s swift decision is acting more like an opposition rather than being a part of the state government/ coalition.
Solve the issue! now that the abbatoir has been torn down, continue to work on building a new one since you’re part of the government instead of playing tantrum.
#7 by jt84 on Friday, 3 July 2009 - 7:13 pm
CORRECTION: “This issue must NOT be blown out of proportaion or Pakatan…”
#8 by W KOK on Friday, 3 July 2009 - 7:41 pm
YB,
I think it is important you reply via media so as not to cause confussion to the public.
A lot of things had been coming out the media.
People thought that you are also fighting with the Kedah MB.
Some also say that DAP may join with BN & PKR to form a BN-PKR-DAP alliance as was suggested by gerakan ketua pemuda kedah.
Some even say PAS is going to sack DAP whether DAP going out or not.
there are also rumours that PKR may take over the state Kedah from PAS.
Very confusing.
Please clarify if possible in Kedah.
#9 by SpeakUp on Friday, 3 July 2009 - 7:44 pm
Malaysia Today says LKS and LGE taking a stroll … no rush. http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/107770
I think they are planning to make sure its all smooth but LKS so fast in hammering BN everyday but nothing here? No articles that clarifies? Come on la …
#10 by my1anthony on Friday, 3 July 2009 - 8:58 pm
PAS is hopeless! Let them talk with BN. Many people happy with them if they join BN. Now the only hope for Opposition or PR is Keadilan. If Anwar and his party is making the root in the east coast, get the strong support there within 3 years, the chances of DAP and Keadilan to Putrajaya is closer and closer. Without PAS, DAP and KEADILAN are champion of ALL.
Youth PAS is damn arrogant, worst than youth UMNO!
#11 by KennyGan on Friday, 3 July 2009 - 8:58 pm
YB Lim,
Some of us like to accuse PAS of being the weak point in Pakatan but DAP must look in the mirror too.
Was sacking the councillor Johari necessary as he had already apologized? This could not have come at a worse time. Does LGE need to prove how strong he is after his weak handling of the Kg. Buah Pala land dispute?
DAP’s pullout from the Kedah govt has given the BN press enough material to ignite into a bonfire. No doubt DAP has real grievances but I don’t think this is the right way to go about it. It is simply too drastic!
On the burner is also Umno-PAS unity talks and Anwar’s trial coming up. One crisis, even 2 crisis PR can weather but does PR need 5 crisis together? (1. unity talk, 2. Anwar’s trial, 3. Kg. Buah Pala, 4. Johari, 5. DAP Kedah)
Many Malaysians want PR to succeed, not break up. DAP is not showing proper leadership and statesmanship at this time. Please do something while there is still time!
#12 by dawsheng on Friday, 3 July 2009 - 9:44 pm
It would have been much easier if PAS had joined UMNO in a unity government.
#13 by YK Leong on Friday, 3 July 2009 - 10:21 pm
We still have a long journey to Putrajaya, as we move along we are bound to face obstructions and obstacles. However, whenever we face them, we have to correct them. Each time, we face one and correct one, our bond will grow stronger in strength.
#14 by chengho on Friday, 3 July 2009 - 10:25 pm
Dap just know how to shout but not to resolve a crisis ….pig slaughterhouse in the middle of residence area… not being unreasonable to be removed or demolish…think of health reason …
#15 by vsp on Friday, 3 July 2009 - 10:55 pm
Normally I would not hit out unnecessarily at DAP.
But the Kedah slaughterhouse issue is a storm in a teacup. Be realistic, DAP is not a powerhouse in Kedah and it cannot always has its way where it has not much influence. It has to work smart. DAP must know when not to be a Don Quixote to fight the windmill or they will have mud thrown into their faces. Please don’t resort to the bravado of yesteryear. That’s was old politics. Recognize your strengths as well as your weaknesses.
Personally, the sole DAP assemblyman in Kedah is a damn fool. Why don’t you work out a solution with PAS for a suitable replacement for the demolished slaughterhouse instead of insisting that it remains where it is now? If you want to talk about principles tell me how far can you go if you are not in an advantageous position? Only stupid fools will stick to that angle.
#16 by SpeakUp on Friday, 3 July 2009 - 11:08 pm
I read NST today, I was shocked. They interviewed the residents nearby. They are Muslim and they were not nasty despite living beside a pig farm for like over 20 years. The stench, parts in the drains etc. When it rains the muck spills over in the drains and goes everywhere.
Would it be fair for them? If this is what the DAP rep was fussing over then I propose that he tries to live in the same circumstances before he starts to make so much fuss over the pig farm issue.
If all the above is true then the rep is an insensitive fool, incompetent and should not be a DUN at all. Useless bugger.
What DAP Kedah is doing is no different from HINDRAF in Penang. Both have no rights to be there, the papers report that the farm has no proper papers.
#17 by sirrganass on Friday, 3 July 2009 - 11:48 pm
2nd crisis of confidence? Oh Yes! Whatever it is, please quickly go to Kedah and Penang because those two-three “kacang putih” problems there can be easily solved. What is more important now is PAS/DAP/PKR must must MUST continue to work together.
Use “LOGIC” and “FAIRNESS” to handles those small “family problems”. Don’t burn the mosquito net if you hate the mosquitoes. Good Luck! See you in Putra Jaya next 3 years! bye
#18 by lkt-56 on Friday, 3 July 2009 - 11:57 pm
Shadow cabinet formed in the midst of the second crisis of confidence! It show the determination of the PR leaders to make the coalition work. If this single minded focus stays on course you can be assured that we are on our way to form the next government. ;)
#19 by SpeakUp on Saturday, 4 July 2009 - 12:04 am
If PR can bring the ratio of BN:PR MPs to say 51:49 … I will treat everyone who is registered as a forumer here to a meal at KL Hilton.
PR will not be able to do it. Why? They are bickering non stop after 18 months, it does not bode well. We do not expect miracles overnight but come on, PAS still wants to have intellectual chats with UMNO? This shows that there is no ONENESS
The cabinet committees are a joke, one from each party? Why scared cannot trust the other person issit? Where is the trust? I think PR has just created the World’s Biggest Shadow Cabinet.
#20 by monsterball on Saturday, 4 July 2009 - 12:12 am
I spoke to 5 motor mechanics …all Chinese and they said…..they never voted before. They also do not understand politics……but are brainwashed that MCA is helping the Chinese.
After listening to me……proving MCA is not helping the Chinese but helping UMNO to divide and rule….and all the temples and schools are to win Chinese votes..that began to open their eyes and minds to some real truths and they promised to go back to their home to towns and vote on 13th GE… for DAP…or keDAILan.
Refused tips to repair my car….thanked me for the talk.
If you read the papers……you will think PR is splitting up…..and Eng Guan is in hot soup.
That idiot…Chengho with his usual low class propaganda message for MCA…does not know Koh Tsu Koon was the one to be blamed….and expect LEG to clean up everything.
As usual…some protesters are with cow brains…but slowly they will learn the truths.
MCA knows the real culprit is Gerakan..and take low class political pot shots… to smear and insult DAP.
They love to create quarrels to avoid the results of PKFZ investigations.
UMNO and MCA will be very busy to steer Malaysian minds away from PKFZ …let it cool down…let it be forgotten…..hoping Malaysians run out of energy….and accept whatever verdicts that is forth coming.
And we know….UMNO will do it’s utmost best to see Ling Liong Sik and Chan Koon Choy…free…for if they are found guilty…..Mahathir will be implicated too….as he was the PM.
Votes is the ultimate deciding factor for UMNO BARU……not justice.
#21 by boh-liao on Saturday, 4 July 2009 - 12:19 am
Sorry to be negative
but many cracks and leaks had appeared in the PR dyke
How many fingers do you have to plug the many leaks
And you are sleeping with some nasty racists n
opportunists n frogs who are all ready to jump, jump
A long, dark night with many nightmares ahead
Will PR be still around by 4 July 2010
Too bad, too bad
#22 by SpeakUp on Saturday, 4 July 2009 - 12:21 am
Monster … of course the papers are playing it up but the FACTS are still true:
DAP DUN is out of Kedah
Hadi is keen to chat with UMNO
PKR Penang is not backing LGE on the Kg Pala matter
PKS Penang is hammering LGE for Johari sacking
Are the above not happening? Yes it is and it causes concern. There is a crisis of confidence.
#23 by dawsheng on Saturday, 4 July 2009 - 12:39 am
Get used to the news reporting, just read between the lines!
#24 by monsterball on Saturday, 4 July 2009 - 12:43 am
DAP is huge and cannot be perfect.
It is the ultimate reasons for those “cracks” and so call..”crisis of confidence”….that one needs to study carefully.
As for me…DAP did nothing wrong.
That’s the bottom line. That matters most to me.
UMNO and MCA can talk as much as the want.
A 100 reasons given on ONE subject….yet UMNO do not act. What is the ultimate reason?
So much dirt and filth and corrupted acts…. left over by UMNO… all over Malaysia.
Decisions made with no choice by DAP……as orders are legally passed….now DAP act and work for their salaries…..and some are not happy..all blames thrown to DAP.
They can keep smearing and insulting father and son…but we do know..who the devils are.
One Hindraf guy woke up….will the other 4 understand truths?
Kedah…not interested…as DAP knows..they withdrew ..not to be in the managing group….PR is still controlling Kedah. What crisis?
Lim Kit Siang said “crisis”…is meaning some misunderstandings within PR family….not National crisis at all.
PKFZ RM14.5 billion scandal is National crisis.
Sometimes…LKS English …no better than mine……hahahahahahaha
#25 by dawsheng on Saturday, 4 July 2009 - 12:43 am
I just want to say here that in my opinion the Kedah DAP did the right thing.
#26 by SpeakUp on Saturday, 4 July 2009 - 12:45 am
Monsterball … what you spiaking ar? Hahahahahaahahaa …
#27 by AhPek on Saturday, 4 July 2009 - 12:55 am
It’s a real shame that PR being so new as a loose coalition of opposition parties is starting to show serious crack lines so soon and YB Kit,your negotiation and PR skills are crucial to save it from breaking up. This time it looks like DAP might have the wrong man in Alor Star as the state assemblyman.
#28 by monsterball on Saturday, 4 July 2009 - 12:56 am
SpeakUp…is trying to be smart.
I will not try to prove he is an idiot.
I have one to handle..few are sleeping…that’s good. Let others handle you…..but I will give them the hints…to start off with SpeakUp.
No..those are not crisis in confidence.
There are democratic rights..acts ad speeches you are not used to reading and hearing and naturally..UMNO love to twist everything into a crisis
LKS is talking about DAP family crisis….openly….not National crisis..
DAP is also concern over Hadi’s famous racialist personality. Even PAS…knows that..Hadi is a disgrace to their party….but no choice..still plenty fanatics to deal with. That’s politics..not crisis.
PKFZ RM14.5 billion is a crisis…involving all Malaysians.
Can you differentiate family quarrels with war of words involving voters
#29 by monsterball on Saturday, 4 July 2009 - 1:07 am
I do not think DAP have a wrong man in Kedah.
I think he has dignity and principles in life.
We do not know the whole story..but read from papers and Malaysiakini.
It is pushing DAP to explain….and in politics…explanations cannot be that straight forward in Malaysia.
53 years….dealing with the master of twister…UMNO….one must think carefully…how to deal with the devils.
PR is very popular and riding high.
DAP needs to cautious in Kedah…and have nothing to do with the management is a wise move where majority is one race…so many are still pro UMNO…let PAS play with UMNO..their own ways.
#30 by SpeakUp on Saturday, 4 July 2009 - 1:07 am
Monster I know what you are trying to say … squabbles are normal. We all do it. BUT when DAP DUN in Kedah pulls out its not the same anymore. When the confidence of PR is shaken due to Hadi’s itch to play with UMNO its no more a mere squabble. When PKR backs the villagers against LGE its no longer a family argument. When a racist DUN in Penang starts to cause trouble at seminars … hey, why was he not properly disciplined? Forgotten huh?
Okay let’s drop the word CRISIS etc. The issue is simple … why cannot work as one? Why have to quit la, offend la etc? That is mainly the issue.
Imagine you are on a flight and you happen to see the pilot and co-pilot squabble/disagree when coming in for landing. Then tell me how you feel … this is the nation that is being entrusted to them with the individual’s vote.
#31 by monsterball on Saturday, 4 July 2009 - 1:18 am
SpeakUp have no manners at all..always addresses me as “monster”…and I keep ignoring…that that will be the starter from me to this no manners guy.
He is a bloody low call …no manners braggart.
His reply to my message..is from a typical….over the moon…with a rock star brain.
Just read his last para and you will know what I mean.
#32 by SpeakUp on Saturday, 4 July 2009 - 1:22 am
Monster or Monsterball … looks like you cannot answer matters point for point and need to resort to insults and name calling … most interesting to see …
#33 by SpeakUp on Saturday, 4 July 2009 - 1:29 am
Hmmmm … Monster is so smart, I guess Sin Chew is also wrong and probably BN controlled …
http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/23898/84/
I love the term … political maturity …
#34 by monsterball on Saturday, 4 July 2009 - 1:32 am
SpeakUp can talk .. giving all sorts of opinions…till all the cows come home.
They are shallow and meant to insult DAP reputation.. fanning and fanning for agree to disagree conversations…to benefit MCA.
This young fut…thinks he know so much from his short life…reading books…and listening to MCA.
Let this no manners son of a gun…..try to teach MCA how to capture Penang back from DAP…..and don’t waste my time…to trap me to his crap messages.
Want to talk real?….give your reason why IGP must not be replaced….you idiot.
#35 by monsterball on Saturday, 4 July 2009 - 1:35 am
AT LAST!!
SpeakUp spoke some sense.
Yes…I am smart and wise….and you better have some manners and respect for old folks.
Blogging tells your personality…and you are one hell of a badly brought up… braggart.
#36 by SpeakUp on Saturday, 4 July 2009 - 1:42 am
I have to agree with you Monster, the manner in which you wield your command of English has truly shown your up bringing and perhaps in breeding. :)
Oh yes … I am actually a DIE HARD MCA supporter. I mean I love them so much that I actually came here to put down LGE by saying he is doing a great job in Penang. However, its actually a guise to throw everyone off my trail. Sssshhhhhh …
My reason why the IGP must not be replaced? I think its mainly because he is an UMNO sympathiser and is doing a great job for UMNO? Did I score well?
#37 by SpeakUp on Saturday, 4 July 2009 - 1:46 am
Monsterball is correct … its a small family matter:
http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/23897/84/
Cleansing time! Time to get rid of the dirt within.
#38 by monsterball on Saturday, 4 July 2009 - 1:47 am
I have answered to ALL your stupid points..but you are not smart enough to be able to read between the lines…nor have a sense of love for the country and people….with a clear agenda..to have a political conversation….which favours MCA.. I have no time for that.
I am after FOR or AGAINST changing the government.
I am after voters.
You are showing the skills how to carry balls…with no manners..nor respect to the old folks that eat more salt than you eat rice.
Yes…I am after your character…and will keep insulting you…as you are AGAINST change of government….trying to be too smart with your comments….tilting to one side….against change of government.
My nick is “monsterball”..not “monster”…yet your rock head find it so difficult to differentiate.
#39 by anna brella on Saturday, 4 July 2009 - 1:49 am
Wonder if LKS has any plans to highlight that small, but nevertheless allegedly stinking to high heaven, connection between a certain previous deputy home minister and now deputy finance minister that the local Alor Starians had carefully chosen as their esteemed parliamentarian and that small fact of the RM12.5bn PKFZ scandal/potential national write-off that is now about to potentially beggar further ALL Malaysians, including those astute winning voters of Alor Star and their children.
Bet that poor beaten to a pulp Chang is now sitting somewhere laughing his head off in schadenfreude at that heartless person who failed to help him get any justice then. And I bet if you ask Chang, he will not be so churlish as to want to deny appropriate justice to the ex-deputy home minister who offered him no support when he was beaten up by a gang of PRDM thugs.
“Imagine Power To The People” John Lennon.
#40 by SpeakUp on Saturday, 4 July 2009 - 1:50 am
Monster … you really make my day. I appreciate all the attention that you are giving to me. :) Want to be the president of my fan club?
#41 by monsterball on Saturday, 4 July 2009 - 1:55 am
Bang bang bang..and that goon finally got it right.
#42 by monsterball on Saturday, 4 July 2009 - 2:00 am
There is goes again….seeking for attention!
I will ignore him.
His twisted unstable mind is so clear.
Monster….you say?
OK….as long as it makes you happy and others are enjoying your stupidity..and voters know what type of young fut…good for nothing..members.. MCA have.
#43 by monsterball on Saturday, 4 July 2009 - 2:04 am
anna brella…That’s a nice piece…and back to sense and sensibility.
#44 by boh-liao on Saturday, 4 July 2009 - 2:07 am
Winning an election is easy
To stay on for a long haul n to work smartly
is not easy
Cakap tak serupa bikin
Remember you can con people once, not twice
#45 by monsterball on Saturday, 4 July 2009 - 2:17 am
But UMNO have been conning and bullshitting for more than 30 years…..and still in power.
So who are the fools….politicians or voters?
#46 by monsterball on Saturday, 4 July 2009 - 2:17 am
But UMNO have been conning and lying for more than 30 years…..and still in power.
So who are the fools….politicians or voters?
#47 by anna brella on Saturday, 4 July 2009 - 2:32 am
monsterball:
Thanks for the kind piece but on that sense and sensibility, no thanks, much prefer pride and prejudice personally.
“Imagine Power To The People” John Lennon.
#48 by monsterball on Saturday, 4 July 2009 - 2:46 am
anna brella….I was referring to the post and not the book.
I agree..Pride and Prejudice is a better read….a must to all students.
I like Shakespeare most…in schools.
They make you think and have different conclusions..sharpening the minds.
#49 by distantmalay on Saturday, 4 July 2009 - 3:32 am
alternative sites were rejected by the kedah govt, and now the last abattoir in kedah is demolished,
the pas led kedah govt will not approve another pig abattoir in kedah, they have no intention to.
#50 by distantmalay on Saturday, 4 July 2009 - 3:33 am
at last, kedah is pig free…..alas not pork free..