Let me say this. Yesterday I went to Ipoh to meet my business associates.They are an old business in Ipoh along the main road. A simple business that has been successful.

I spoke with their staff, your average Malaysian, they are Malays mind you and I doubt are UMNO members. I casually asked about the Nizar/Zambry issue. Their reply is NO ONE REALLY CARES. They said only those who are political fanatics and have nothing to do will be there protesting.

They want life to go on, being able to earn a living & enjoy life. So … is that not interesting.

Ipoh was pleasant yesterday, people were out shopping, enjoying family time at eateries. So tell me … how is the average Perakian suffering? Food for thought …

This is interesting…may be it is time to fend for ourselves.

chengho:

Naughty boy, from the way you spew out your ignorance, it sad to say that you are the one who does not understand realities in Bolehland. Wake up.

Again, you are mistaken. I DO undertand the powers of the incompetent incumbents. If you mean BN then they have the power, they actually, are shouting it to PR like Thunder Cats … but PR is in La-La Land thinking its doing great. So both are as bad in a way and we the Rakyat are left on our own.

I am asking you if you would have imagined that your vote for PR would translate into the issues today … PAS wanting to court with UMNO, PKR hammering LGE etc. I meant did you expect that?

Don’t be so unhappy la … its only a forum, if we get angry and fight here then the whole nation really has no more hope. :)

I don’t give excuses. I have always rationalised whatever I wrote.

I think you don’t understand the power of incumbents and those who are in control of the Federal Government. You can’t imagine the power of the national coffer. State governments are nothing in comparison. Of course I admit that there are always greedy and weak people in politics in both sides of the aisle.

If rakyat are all enlightened, technically we should have a perfect government 50 years ago. But how come till today we are still struggling. No, I don’t have any statistics to back me up. But do you have? But unlike you, I have intelligence and knowledge.

Surely each of us has voted for certain party because of its agenda and policies. But whether or not the agenda and policies within PR are in tandem with each other is a separate matter. Those things you mentioned as agenda are NOT agenda. Of course I can’t expect a phua than sai to know the difference.

Ya, you like to belittle US presidents because of their many misdeeds along the way. You know what, that is because US have freer access to information. You know nothing, and you have no way of knowing all the mega misdeeds happening in many third world countries including Malaysia.

Ok, you can write whatever you want in your rejoinder. I will respond no further. I have no time to debate with loose cannons and half baked asses.

i. Obama and France … what nonsense are you talking about? You are making stupid excuses. Closer … earlier … come on. Stop being lame. If it were bad it would have happened LATER and France would be FURTHER. Is I argue that way its lame too, hence, I would not.

ii. PR mess is PR mess stop BLAMING BN. Even if BN did use money then the PR guys who are causing the mess are JERKS and DSAI, LKS, Kepala Pusing and Hadi are even bigger JERKS to have appointed weaklings! STOP MAKING EXCUSES!!! Did Mandela waiver? Did Gandhi waiver?

iii. Rakyat is not well informed? Well who are you to say? Do you have the stats or will this be another coffee shop arguments with all its assumptions? The population of Germany was happy with Hitler until he went too far with the war ok. Cubans are happy with a dictator too. China is a COMMUNIST state and the people are happy. North Koreans are suffering but HAPPY with their Illustrious leader!

iv. Party agenda? What is the agenda? can you tell me clearly? Tell me if its being achieved? PAS wants to chat with UMNO, you voted for that? Hadi says cannot remove 30%, you voted for that? HINDRAF hammers LGE, you voted for that? DSAI wants to put English on the sidelines, you voted for that? Hee wants to be RESPECTED so she jumps ship, you voted for that?

v. Continue trying? Try till when? Its been 18 months la … Selangor still got nothing new to shout about. Kedah? How?

George Washington was not a dictator? Wow … you will be shocked to see how many mistakes the US presidents made. Hoover nearly caused the whole US to collapse. Clinton stuck a nice cigar into places that I cannot mention here. JFK was sharing a celebrity with his brother. That is just some simple example. Their difference was they still fought for the nation. DSAI is fighting back against BN.

So all that talk about C4 and that Najib is a shame to the country is nonsense. NO ONE IN THE INTERNATIONAL ARENA CARES! So Mr LKS wanna shout more about it?///– SpeakUp

The leaders of other countries have to deal with the head of government, and here is Najib. The knowledge of Najib’s achievement would be important to them. If the reputation of our leaders is what we know, then our strength in diplomacy is that much weakened. To us C4 is a shame, to leaders of other countries, that is something for exploitation. We cannot hide the shame since it will come out in any case. That is why the call for Najib to refute the rumours through the proper course. Otherwise, it is better we have other to represent us.

Look, you are just simplifying everything. Sometimes we voted for certain politicians (despite their personal shortcomings) because of party agenda and policies. By voting the “less than proper politicians”, we are hoping the party and the leadership would be able to keep them in place. Sometimes, we have no choice – we have to move two steps forward and one step backward.

Second, not all rakyat are well informed. Some are subjected to persuasion and years of indoctrination. Even as we speak now, the process of indoctrination is on-going. Don’t forget, Nazi Germany was also voted into power initially (by popular votes I mean).

Third, so what if Obama called or France is keen to establish closer relations with Malaysia. I can assure you if it is another person who is the PM of Malaysia today, the same call from President Obama might have come in earlier and the relationship between France and Malaysia might be even closer. I hope you are not a simpleton.

Finally sometimes the “mess” we see in PR could also be due to money or promise of money. What can we do, it has already happened in Perak months earlier. But the process has to go on. We just have to keep going, voting and voting again until we get some right people governing this country. USA became a world greatest democracy because George Washington has refused to become the dictator. If not of George Washington, I think USA today would be very much like another half baked Latin American democracy. Similarly, Singapore is what it is today because Lee Kuan Yew has chosen the right path and begun with the clean government from day one. We will continue trying.

Jeff … you pass me RM250K, I tell you I can give you steady returns of 12% per annum, I got my company that invests in premium blue chip stocks and all. You can then tell your friends to join in too, encourage them as we need to fend for ourselves now! Its a really good investment I assure you. My company is called PONZI INVESTMENTS SDN BHD.

So if internationally no one cares because some of these people, out of their personal interest, want to suck up to Naj!b, does this mean that LkS or anybody who cares about this country should also shut up. I give up, there are just too many half baked here. Worse still they think they are smart asses.

Do you have suggestions? :)

I might be wrong but the pig itself might not be haram, consumption of it is. If that it correct then there is no issue with breeding them. Its not duit haram too. It would be duit haram if they were to sell pigs for Muslims to secretly eat it.

Limkaput … you are statement above is misleading, the State is made up of individual politicians who are appointed by individuals known as the Rakyat who have on many occassions voted in those politicians despite all the news, corruption etc.

So at the end of the day … majority have spoken. Not right but that is a fact. We get what we want … we got PR who is messing about too.

Look at this statement by LKS:

The deepening of the national and international crisis of credibility, integrity and legitimacy faced by Najib since becoming the sixth Prime Minister because of his refusal to confront and come clean on the host of serious allegations haunting and hounding him, whether over the C4 murder case of Mongolian Altantuya Shariibuu or the defence deal mega-commissions through the establishment of a Royal Commission of Inquiry.

So what about the above? Well note this:

i. Obama called Najib and pleasant words were spoken
ii. France just stated recently it is keen to be close with Malaysia.

So all that talk about C4 and that Najib is a shame to the country is nonsense. NO ONE IN THE INTERNATIONAL ARENA CARES! So Mr LKS wanna shout more about it?

Time to wake up guys! We have to fend for ourselves, PR has not done a great job only made promises they cannot live up to. BN is only making changes for public relations sake. Who will help us? DSAI? Hahahahahaaa … he is too busy starting his own agenda with his old habits. No speaking the English please. Hahahahaahaa …

Hello, half baked, you must understand the difference between personal prejudices and state sponsored discrimination and racism indoctrination. While we can’t do much of the former, the later should be strictly curtailed and made illegal.

Basically, they are all POLITICIANS. LKS is so free he can ask 3 questions a day about PKFZ, he is getting very personal with OTK. Why does he not start to work out 1 reason a day to make PR more coherent and tightly knit?

Master Sifu … like you say, all we want is to be happy, live happily, work happily. Ensure that the children have a future and can work towards a future. This is a dream … a mere dream.

Yes sure, only a dumb understands that way. Only a dumb can’t understand things in context. Only a dumb is a one liner. What else have you got, dumb? Only a dumb will keep repeating the one mistake made by me because he has nothing else to say. By the way, please don’t be quick to claim credit because that mistake was not pointed out by this dumb in the first place. That mistake was pointed by an equally “showish” fellow when he fully knew it was just a typo error.

See the half baked talking. Why is it that each time DAP stands for something, it is for showmanship and to galvanise Chinese votes? Hello, it is a stand for diversity, equal right and multi-racism, multi-cultural and multi-religious nation. Got it half baked?