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	<title>Comments on: 100 reasons why Malaysia needs a new Inspector-General of Police</title>
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		<title>By: johnnypok</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/02/100-reasons-why-malaysia-needs-a-new-inspector-general-of-police/comment-page-1/#comment-183138</link>
		<dc:creator>johnnypok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 15:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The water is so muddy and polluted with 50 years of filth! Even sharks and crocodiles cannot survive in this condition. So the only is to completely drain off the water and use powerful disinfectants to kill the germs and virus. 
Vote for a new government, give PR a chance, long live DSAI.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The water is so muddy and polluted with 50 years of filth! Even sharks and crocodiles cannot survive in this condition. So the only is to completely drain off the water and use powerful disinfectants to kill the germs and virus.<br />
Vote for a new government, give PR a chance, long live DSAI.</p>
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		<title>By: SpeakUp</title>
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		<dc:creator>SpeakUp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 15:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This all can change when a proper leader comes and leads this nation. PR? DSAI? How can change come about when they are all bickering? Change starts with each one of us ... remember what Gandhi said about change?

You must be the change you wish to see in the world

Has PAS changed? Has PKR members changed? Has DSAI changed? Has LKS changed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This all can change when a proper leader comes and leads this nation. PR? DSAI? How can change come about when they are all bickering? Change starts with each one of us &#8230; remember what Gandhi said about change?</p>
<p>You must be the change you wish to see in the world</p>
<p>Has PAS changed? Has PKR members changed? Has DSAI changed? Has LKS changed?</p>
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		<title>By: wanderer</title>
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		<dc:creator>wanderer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 10:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A DONKEY WILL DO A BETTER JOB!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A DONKEY WILL DO A BETTER JOB!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ktteokt</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/02/100-reasons-why-malaysia-needs-a-new-inspector-general-of-police/comment-page-1/#comment-183069</link>
		<dc:creator>ktteokt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 08:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More important is the &quot;new traffic law&quot; at traffic lights where RED means GO and GREEN means STOP!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More important is the &#8220;new traffic law&#8221; at traffic lights where RED means GO and GREEN means STOP!</p>
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		<title>By: johnnypok</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/02/100-reasons-why-malaysia-needs-a-new-inspector-general-of-police/comment-page-1/#comment-183015</link>
		<dc:creator>johnnypok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 03:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The root of the problem lies in the corrupted leaders, and until and unless we are able to elect a team of good leaders, we will continue to experience low standard of every damn thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The root of the problem lies in the corrupted leaders, and until and unless we are able to elect a team of good leaders, we will continue to experience low standard of every damn thing.</p>
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		<title>By: House Victim</title>
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		<dc:creator>House Victim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One Basic Problem that the Police is not work according to Rules and Regulations with Abuse to Human Rights and not taking up their Duty is good enough to ask IGP to get LOSS!!

HOW CAN A LAWYER ASSAULTING CLIENTS CASE BE SILENT FOR MORE THAN ONE YEAR WITHOUT REPORT TO KUP AND AG TO ACT!!

They are sided by the KUP, AG as well as the Ministers and PM. The Law is full of Loopholes with deliberately ignorance of Rules and Regulations. LAWS ARE NOT LAW! ADMINISTRATION is just fooling People. 
THE WHOLE SYSTEM NEED A CHANGE. NOT ONLY THE IGP!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One Basic Problem that the Police is not work according to Rules and Regulations with Abuse to Human Rights and not taking up their Duty is good enough to ask IGP to get LOSS!!</p>
<p>HOW CAN A LAWYER ASSAULTING CLIENTS CASE BE SILENT FOR MORE THAN ONE YEAR WITHOUT REPORT TO KUP AND AG TO ACT!!</p>
<p>They are sided by the KUP, AG as well as the Ministers and PM. The Law is full of Loopholes with deliberately ignorance of Rules and Regulations. LAWS ARE NOT LAW! ADMINISTRATION is just fooling People.<br />
THE WHOLE SYSTEM NEED A CHANGE. NOT ONLY THE IGP!!</p>
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		<title>By: monsterball</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/02/100-reasons-why-malaysia-needs-a-new-inspector-general-of-police/comment-page-1/#comment-182972</link>
		<dc:creator>monsterball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there are 100 reasons why IGP should be replaced and not done...then it is clear IGP is 100% pro UMNO...and UMNO will 100%.. never sack their chosen stooge......specially one holding the highest position in the Police force.
That&#039;s where LKS is at his best...keep exposing....working hard for the money.. we pay him to do his job.
We have somewhat rewarded him...and it will be great to see him ....personally assisting governing the country.....after 13th GE.
Then we will see...the final judgments to all crooks...put away...for unity objectives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there are 100 reasons why IGP should be replaced and not done&#8230;then it is clear IGP is 100% pro UMNO&#8230;and UMNO will 100%.. never sack their chosen stooge&#8230;&#8230;specially one holding the highest position in the Police force.<br />
That&#8217;s where LKS is at his best&#8230;keep exposing&#8230;.working hard for the money.. we pay him to do his job.<br />
We have somewhat rewarded him&#8230;and it will be great to see him &#8230;.personally assisting governing the country&#8230;..after 13th GE.<br />
Then we will see&#8230;the final judgments to all crooks&#8230;put away&#8230;for unity objectives.</p>
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		<title>By: Onlooker Politics</title>
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		<dc:creator>Onlooker Politics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 17:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The present IGP Tan Sri Musa Hassan was promoted to the post of IGP from the post of the Head of Special Branch.

Strictly speaking, Special Branch Police should not be made the National Police Chief because the training syllabus of the Special Branch Police was basically against the basic 5 Principles of Nation-Building (the Rukun Negara) and was in violation of the Federal Constitution  of Malaysia, which by rights requires all the Police Force of Malaysia to pledge loyalty only to the Yang Dipertuan Agong and no one else.   However, the Special Branch Police of Malaysia were and are absurdly trained to pledge their loyalty to the Prime Minister instead of the Yang Dipertuan Agong and such a training syllabus has made the Special Branch Police disqualified to head the overall Police Force at the paramount top position.  Therefore, IGP Musa Hassan should be replaced with another replacement who is not coming from the Special Branch.

The Yang Dipertuan Agong should also not approve the extension of Musa Hassan&#039;s service for another one more year after September 2009 because Musa Hassan did not show a strong will of wanting to preserve and protect the integrity of the State Constitution and the Federal Constitution when he tried to keep his eyes closed and took no action in his capacity as the IGP in the following unconstitutional events:

A) The Perak State Assembly Proceeding had been intruded by some scumbags who empowered Perak Speaker, Mr V. Sivakumar,  and forced Perak Speaker out of the Assembly Hall with violence on May 7, 2009 but the IGP Musa Hassan failed to take action of arrest on those scumbags.

B) The handicapped DAP&#039;s National President cum Member of Parliament Mr Karpal Singh had been violently attacked by a group of scumbags from Umno Youth in the compound of the Sacrosanct Building of Parliament House and the IGP Musa Hassan failed to take action of arrest on those scumbags.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The present IGP Tan Sri Musa Hassan was promoted to the post of IGP from the post of the Head of Special Branch.</p>
<p>Strictly speaking, Special Branch Police should not be made the National Police Chief because the training syllabus of the Special Branch Police was basically against the basic 5 Principles of Nation-Building (the Rukun Negara) and was in violation of the Federal Constitution  of Malaysia, which by rights requires all the Police Force of Malaysia to pledge loyalty only to the Yang Dipertuan Agong and no one else.   However, the Special Branch Police of Malaysia were and are absurdly trained to pledge their loyalty to the Prime Minister instead of the Yang Dipertuan Agong and such a training syllabus has made the Special Branch Police disqualified to head the overall Police Force at the paramount top position.  Therefore, IGP Musa Hassan should be replaced with another replacement who is not coming from the Special Branch.</p>
<p>The Yang Dipertuan Agong should also not approve the extension of Musa Hassan&#8217;s service for another one more year after September 2009 because Musa Hassan did not show a strong will of wanting to preserve and protect the integrity of the State Constitution and the Federal Constitution when he tried to keep his eyes closed and took no action in his capacity as the IGP in the following unconstitutional events:</p>
<p>A) The Perak State Assembly Proceeding had been intruded by some scumbags who empowered Perak Speaker, Mr V. Sivakumar,  and forced Perak Speaker out of the Assembly Hall with violence on May 7, 2009 but the IGP Musa Hassan failed to take action of arrest on those scumbags.</p>
<p>B) The handicapped DAP&#8217;s National President cum Member of Parliament Mr Karpal Singh had been violently attacked by a group of scumbags from Umno Youth in the compound of the Sacrosanct Building of Parliament House and the IGP Musa Hassan failed to take action of arrest on those scumbags.</p>
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		<title>By: johnnypok</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/02/100-reasons-why-malaysia-needs-a-new-inspector-general-of-police/comment-page-1/#comment-182958</link>
		<dc:creator>johnnypok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 17:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole police force should be revamped, and contracted out to the gangsters. Then introduce hudud laws, and practice 100% meritocracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole police force should be revamped, and contracted out to the gangsters. Then introduce hudud laws, and practice 100% meritocracy.</p>
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		<title>By: sheriff singh</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/02/100-reasons-why-malaysia-needs-a-new-inspector-general-of-police/comment-page-1/#comment-182950</link>
		<dc:creator>sheriff singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Say, did anyone read this article in Malaysia Today - What we wish did happen but did not happen ? Its good for laughs. 

http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/23674/84/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say, did anyone read this article in Malaysia Today &#8211; What we wish did happen but did not happen ? Its good for laughs. </p>
<p><a href="http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/23674/84/" rel="nofollow">http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/23674/84/</a></p>
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		<title>By: ktteokt</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/02/100-reasons-why-malaysia-needs-a-new-inspector-general-of-police/comment-page-1/#comment-182948</link>
		<dc:creator>ktteokt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just the recent short movie on the web showing police violence in a police station involving several policemen in uniform mistreating, harassing and torturing a suspect is enough for the removal of the IGP!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just the recent short movie on the web showing police violence in a police station involving several policemen in uniform mistreating, harassing and torturing a suspect is enough for the removal of the IGP!</p>
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		<title>By: Better Malaysia</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/02/100-reasons-why-malaysia-needs-a-new-inspector-general-of-police/comment-page-1/#comment-182947</link>
		<dc:creator>Better Malaysia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This IGP must go. Never have in the history of Malaysia, the patriah police have gone so wild and lost control. 

Storming of State Assembly 
High fatality rate of detainee
Losing the war on Mat Samseng
Close connection with the underworld</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This IGP must go. Never have in the history of Malaysia, the patriah police have gone so wild and lost control. </p>
<p>Storming of State Assembly<br />
High fatality rate of detainee<br />
Losing the war on Mat Samseng<br />
Close connection with the underworld</p>
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		<title>By: hunkeyboy</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/02/100-reasons-why-malaysia-needs-a-new-inspector-general-of-police/comment-page-1/#comment-182943</link>
		<dc:creator>hunkeyboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all said, i think my1anthony is right - another igp, another one, and another etc etc all same-same. there was such hope after rahim nor and what happens? until that dark web is unravelled, same lah. IPCMC? an ACA like world respected icac? dream on.
all very specialised ie selective - selective investigation/enforcement, selective prosecution, selective judgements. and a blunt (some say brain-deficit) govt at the centre! latest live example: the demos and press conferences at high chapparel .... what were the cops present doing at those illegal (and rabble rousing) gatherings? why weren&#039;t red trucks and canons cracking heads? i thought HINDRAF has been proscribed and an illegal organisation!!! SO WHO&#039;S BEHIND ALL THAT? 
yes, Waytha who is so brave in London should return to show his bravery and lead the Indians.
and a note of advice to PAS leaders (re kedah, unity talks): do not expect Pakatan non-malay, non-muslim supporters to understand or accept that it&#039;s all strategy to win Malay support ... you deeply risk the loss of especially Chinese support at the next GE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all said, i think my1anthony is right &#8211; another igp, another one, and another etc etc all same-same. there was such hope after rahim nor and what happens? until that dark web is unravelled, same lah. IPCMC? an ACA like world respected icac? dream on.<br />
all very specialised ie selective &#8211; selective investigation/enforcement, selective prosecution, selective judgements. and a blunt (some say brain-deficit) govt at the centre! latest live example: the demos and press conferences at high chapparel &#8230;. what were the cops present doing at those illegal (and rabble rousing) gatherings? why weren&#8217;t red trucks and canons cracking heads? i thought HINDRAF has been proscribed and an illegal organisation!!! SO WHO&#8217;S BEHIND ALL THAT?<br />
yes, Waytha who is so brave in London should return to show his bravery and lead the Indians.<br />
and a note of advice to PAS leaders (re kedah, unity talks): do not expect Pakatan non-malay, non-muslim supporters to understand or accept that it&#8217;s all strategy to win Malay support &#8230; you deeply risk the loss of especially Chinese support at the next GE.</p>
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		<title>By: HJ Angus</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/02/100-reasons-why-malaysia-needs-a-new-inspector-general-of-police/comment-page-1/#comment-182939</link>
		<dc:creator>HJ Angus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When his term was extended by Pak Lah,  thought he was strong(?) enough to implement the IPCMC but sadly I was wrong.
That was the main reason why I thought an extension of one or two years would be justified.
But since he is not able to implement the IPCMC, he should be retired.
If there are no senior police officers who can push through the necessary reforms of the IPCMC, the goverment can even appoint say an honest army senior officer for the post.
We should all realise that the system of law enforcement is seriously broken and all of us must find a way to mend it. 
http://malaysiawatch4.blogspot.com/2009/05/malaysiakini-and-dark-forces-in.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When his term was extended by Pak Lah,  thought he was strong(?) enough to implement the IPCMC but sadly I was wrong.<br />
That was the main reason why I thought an extension of one or two years would be justified.<br />
But since he is not able to implement the IPCMC, he should be retired.<br />
If there are no senior police officers who can push through the necessary reforms of the IPCMC, the goverment can even appoint say an honest army senior officer for the post.<br />
We should all realise that the system of law enforcement is seriously broken and all of us must find a way to mend it.<br />
<a href="http://malaysiawatch4.blogspot.com/2009/05/malaysiakini-and-dark-forces-in.html" rel="nofollow">http://malaysiawatch4.blogspot.com/2009/05/malaysiakini-and-dark-forces-in.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: limkamput</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/02/100-reasons-why-malaysia-needs-a-new-inspector-general-of-police/comment-page-1/#comment-182937</link>
		<dc:creator>limkamput</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As expected, a dumb who can&#039;t see beyond his nose thinks he is smarter than LKS, sigh....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As expected, a dumb who can&#8217;t see beyond his nose thinks he is smarter than LKS, sigh&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Naksam</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/02/100-reasons-why-malaysia-needs-a-new-inspector-general-of-police/comment-page-1/#comment-182936</link>
		<dc:creator>Naksam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Normally such a high ranking officer will not ask for extension unless being directed to do so.

Nobody is indespensible.

It is all politics. Si Luncai terjun dengan labu-labunya ... biarkan ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Normally such a high ranking officer will not ask for extension unless being directed to do so.</p>
<p>Nobody is indespensible.</p>
<p>It is all politics. Si Luncai terjun dengan labu-labunya &#8230; biarkan &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: IbnAbdHalim</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/02/100-reasons-why-malaysia-needs-a-new-inspector-general-of-police/comment-page-1/#comment-182931</link>
		<dc:creator>IbnAbdHalim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saudara LKS,

I think you are short of saying we need a new PM. I don&#039;t think a new IGP will make Malaysia any better. A new PM - from Pakatan - will make Malaysia a better haven. The BN government has no will power for reformation which Malaysia badly needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saudara LKS,</p>
<p>I think you are short of saying we need a new PM. I don&#8217;t think a new IGP will make Malaysia any better. A new PM &#8211; from Pakatan &#8211; will make Malaysia a better haven. The BN government has no will power for reformation which Malaysia badly needs.</p>
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		<title>By: yellowkingdom</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/02/100-reasons-why-malaysia-needs-a-new-inspector-general-of-police/comment-page-1/#comment-182924</link>
		<dc:creator>yellowkingdom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I call upon the government to implement the Royal Commisssion on IPCMC. It is only then that we can bring back the pride and dignity of the police force to eradicate crime and corruption. We have had enough of the shenanigans and charades of the IGP. The only way forward is to have a new police chief who is committed to reform the police force by instituting the IPCMC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I call upon the government to implement the Royal Commisssion on IPCMC. It is only then that we can bring back the pride and dignity of the police force to eradicate crime and corruption. We have had enough of the shenanigans and charades of the IGP. The only way forward is to have a new police chief who is committed to reform the police force by instituting the IPCMC.</p>
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		<title>By: rabbit</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/02/100-reasons-why-malaysia-needs-a-new-inspector-general-of-police/comment-page-1/#comment-182923</link>
		<dc:creator>rabbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmmmm  the IPG task must be carry by idian or chinese, no more malay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmmm  the IPG task must be carry by idian or chinese, no more malay.</p>
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		<title>By: fireduck</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/07/02/100-reasons-why-malaysia-needs-a-new-inspector-general-of-police/comment-page-1/#comment-182922</link>
		<dc:creator>fireduck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 12:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I posted this in MT. 

Wondering how the helicopter project comes up to RM20bil. After some search, I have these few facts .... the Govt has approved the recommendation to purchase 21 helicopters for the Police.  http://www.bernama.com/bernama...d=352352 

Ok, when we purchase the helicopters we will need training, technology transfer, hangars, heliports, maintenance schedules, and whatever, some of which will probably be packaged into the pricing anyway. So, that works out to be almost a cool RM1bil per helicopter. 

Hmmmm .... and you guys were complaining about that Abdullah (what, RM300mil?) airplane? 

So, I googled again, and come up with some facts and figures again ..... 

&quot;AgustaWestland, a Finmeccanica company, has signed a contract worth over 200 million dollars with the Malaysian Maritime Enforcement Agency (MMEA) for the supply of three AW139 helicopters plus options for several additional aircraft. &quot;

That&#039;s at end Oct 2008. USD200mil for 3 copters = USD66mil per bird. 

&quot;AgustaWestland, a Finmeccanica company, and Ornge, a Canadian charitable organization, have signed a contract for ten AW139 medium twin helicopters in aero-medical configuration, with an option for two additional aircraft. The overall value is about US 120 million dollars. &quot;

This announcement is at the beginning of Oct 2008. Hmmm..... ok lah, Ornge is a charitable organization. 10 for USD120mil = USD12mil per copter. Real charitable supplier. 

Ok lah, our police needs very high specs birdies, so still possible that AgustaWestland is barely breaking even at USD66mil a bird. 

I suppose if our PDRM exercise the option and place a larger order, it would cost the supplier much more per piece to manufacture the helicopters. No such thing as bulk discount here unlike everything else. Otherwise, I just can&#039;t even come close to RM20bil for 21 copters. Assuming they buy another 21 (not balance of 18, ok?), 
that&#039;s 21 x USD66mil = USD1.386bil x RM3.8 (being generous here) = RM5.267bil 

So, we need about RM15bil to construct the rest of the support amenities. Am I right? I&#039;m not suggesting anything but just curious how they come up with the RM20bil figure. 

Anyone else can shed some light?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted this in MT. </p>
<p>Wondering how the helicopter project comes up to RM20bil. After some search, I have these few facts &#8230;. the Govt has approved the recommendation to purchase 21 helicopters for the Police.  <a href="http://www.bernama.com/bernama...d=352352" rel="nofollow">http://www.bernama.com/bernama&#8230;d=352352</a> </p>
<p>Ok, when we purchase the helicopters we will need training, technology transfer, hangars, heliports, maintenance schedules, and whatever, some of which will probably be packaged into the pricing anyway. So, that works out to be almost a cool RM1bil per helicopter. </p>
<p>Hmmmm &#8230;. and you guys were complaining about that Abdullah (what, RM300mil?) airplane? </p>
<p>So, I googled again, and come up with some facts and figures again &#8230;.. </p>
<p>&#8220;AgustaWestland, a Finmeccanica company, has signed a contract worth over 200 million dollars with the Malaysian Maritime Enforcement Agency (MMEA) for the supply of three AW139 helicopters plus options for several additional aircraft. &#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s at end Oct 2008. USD200mil for 3 copters = USD66mil per bird. </p>
<p>&#8220;AgustaWestland, a Finmeccanica company, and Ornge, a Canadian charitable organization, have signed a contract for ten AW139 medium twin helicopters in aero-medical configuration, with an option for two additional aircraft. The overall value is about US 120 million dollars. &#8221;</p>
<p>This announcement is at the beginning of Oct 2008. Hmmm&#8230;.. ok lah, Ornge is a charitable organization. 10 for USD120mil = USD12mil per copter. Real charitable supplier. </p>
<p>Ok lah, our police needs very high specs birdies, so still possible that AgustaWestland is barely breaking even at USD66mil a bird. </p>
<p>I suppose if our PDRM exercise the option and place a larger order, it would cost the supplier much more per piece to manufacture the helicopters. No such thing as bulk discount here unlike everything else. Otherwise, I just can&#8217;t even come close to RM20bil for 21 copters. Assuming they buy another 21 (not balance of 18, ok?),<br />
that&#8217;s 21 x USD66mil = USD1.386bil x RM3.8 (being generous here) = RM5.267bil </p>
<p>So, we need about RM15bil to construct the rest of the support amenities. Am I right? I&#8217;m not suggesting anything but just curious how they come up with the RM20bil figure. </p>
<p>Anyone else can shed some light?</p>
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