Comments on: PKFZ scandal: Does Ong Tee Keat agree that the Speaker has put the cart before the horse in claiming that there is no point in tabling PwC report on PKFZ and appendices in Parliament without PAC report? http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/26/pkfz-scandal-does-ong-tee-keat-agree-that-the-speaker-has-put-the-cart-before-the-horse-in-claiming-that-there-is-no-point-in-tabling-pwc-report-on-pkfz-and-appendices-in-parliament-without-pac-repor/ for Malaysia Sun, 12 Feb 2012 13:28:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: frankyapp http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/26/pkfz-scandal-does-ong-tee-keat-agree-that-the-speaker-has-put-the-cart-before-the-horse-in-claiming-that-there-is-no-point-in-tabling-pwc-report-on-pkfz-and-appendices-in-parliament-without-pac-repor/comment-page-1/#comment-182423 frankyapp Mon, 29 Jun 2009 01:24:48 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=4842#comment-182423 House victim,I appreciate your sincere opinion on MPs especially the oppostion ones.You already known,the speaker is an Umno's tool.Since being a somebody's tool,you or he is liken a dumb though you or he may be a civilised one.But a tool is a tool.The speaker has firstly made it pretty clear that he would not accept YB Lim's proposal and if he and others persistantly insisted to have the proposal accepted by this speaker tool,Lim and other of his MPs joining him would be kicked out of the parliament or what the usual way of saying ,you are suspensed from attending the current parliament session or worst still be suspended for a year liked what has happened to MP D.Singh. You see House victim,we are not dealing with ladies and gentlemen here,YB Lim and his MPs are dealing with crooks and gangsters like some one has said about the Umno/Bn MPs,D.speaker and speaker. So hopefully now you see that it's easily said than done.You should know too that we are not liken to British or Australian parliament.This is our unique and violence Malaysian parliament. House victim,I appreciate your sincere opinion on MPs especially the oppostion ones.You already known,the speaker is an Umno’s tool.Since being a somebody’s tool,you or he is liken a dumb though you or he may be a civilised one.But a tool is a tool.The speaker has firstly made it pretty clear that he would not accept YB Lim’s proposal and if he and others persistantly insisted to have the proposal accepted by this speaker tool,Lim and other of his MPs joining him would be kicked out of the parliament or what the usual way of saying ,you are suspensed from attending the current parliament session or worst still be suspended for a year liked what has happened to MP D.Singh. You see House victim,we are not dealing with ladies and gentlemen here,YB Lim and his MPs are dealing with crooks and gangsters like some one has said about the Umno/Bn MPs,D.speaker and speaker. So hopefully now you see that it’s easily said than done.You should know too that we are not liken to British or Australian parliament.This is our unique and violence Malaysian parliament.

]]> By: House Victim http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/26/pkfz-scandal-does-ong-tee-keat-agree-that-the-speaker-has-put-the-cart-before-the-horse-in-claiming-that-there-is-no-point-in-tabling-pwc-report-on-pkfz-and-appendices-in-parliament-without-pac-repor/comment-page-1/#comment-182183 House Victim Sat, 27 Jun 2009 06:27:48 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=4842#comment-182183 frankyapp, thanks input! SUCH ACT OF BIAS, IS SUFFICIENT FOR THE 86MP TO DEMAND A CHANGE OF SPEAKER, IT THEY DARE TO WRITE AND ACT COLLECTIVELY. SO, ONE SHOULD ALSO ASK IF THE OPPOSITION IN THE PARLIAMENT ARE ON ONE PIECE? OR, THE LAST GE HAS JUST VOTED IN 86MP AND NOT ONE PK!! Had they challenged the Speaker on holding up the PWC report as claimed by LHB or MOT that they had delivered the copies to the Parliament but subject to the Consent of the Speaker to pass out? Either they do not dare to fight even a Speaker, or, they do not know or bother to know what is a Speaker. In either way, should People continue to have confidence on them? IF MP CANNOT EVEN GET THE RULES & REGULATIONS STRICT IN THE PARLIAMENT, CAN THEY FIGHT FOR FAIRNESS AND RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE THAT THEY HAVE THE OBLIGATIONS TO ACT ON BEHALF? THE QUESTION TO THE MP WILL THEN BE: DOES MP UNDERSTAND WHAT IS A MP? "ONE HAND CANNOT CLAP" !! frankyapp, thanks input!

SUCH ACT OF BIAS, IS SUFFICIENT FOR THE 86MP TO DEMAND A CHANGE OF SPEAKER, IT THEY DARE TO WRITE AND ACT COLLECTIVELY.

SO, ONE SHOULD ALSO ASK IF THE OPPOSITION IN THE PARLIAMENT ARE ON ONE PIECE? OR, THE LAST GE HAS JUST VOTED IN 86MP AND NOT ONE PK!!

Had they challenged the Speaker on holding up the PWC report as claimed by LHB or MOT that they had delivered the copies to the Parliament but subject to the Consent of the Speaker to pass out?

Either they do not dare to fight even a Speaker, or, they do not know or bother to know what is a Speaker. In either way, should People continue to have confidence on them?

IF MP CANNOT EVEN GET THE RULES & REGULATIONS STRICT IN THE PARLIAMENT, CAN THEY FIGHT FOR FAIRNESS AND RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE THAT THEY HAVE THE OBLIGATIONS TO ACT ON BEHALF?

THE QUESTION TO THE MP WILL THEN BE:
DOES MP UNDERSTAND WHAT IS A MP?

“ONE HAND CANNOT CLAP” !!

]]> By: frankyapp http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/26/pkfz-scandal-does-ong-tee-keat-agree-that-the-speaker-has-put-the-cart-before-the-horse-in-claiming-that-there-is-no-point-in-tabling-pwc-report-on-pkfz-and-appendices-in-parliament-without-pac-repor/comment-page-1/#comment-182112 frankyapp Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:18:18 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=4842#comment-182112 House victim says " Does speaker understand his jobs ? ". How can he understand his job,house victim,when he's a dumb tool. Can you talk to your tool (hammer),no you can't. It's up to you as to how to use it,say bang a 3 inch nail to your wooden floor and with your control it can do it.Similarly Umno/Bn is exactly using the speaker like what you do with your tool to hit the nail into the floor.Just look at our YB Lim,despite his constant banging at the House speaker,he does not move at all.Why cos this tool(speaker) does not belong to him.But once its owner(Umno/Bn) uses it ,it works wonders.Ha Ha Ha. House victim says ” Does speaker understand his jobs ? “. How can he understand his job,house victim,when he’s a dumb tool. Can you talk to your tool (hammer),no you can’t. It’s up to you as to how to use it,say bang a 3 inch nail to your wooden floor and with your control it can do it.Similarly Umno/Bn is exactly using the speaker like what you do with your tool to hit the nail into the floor.Just look at our YB Lim,despite his constant banging at the House speaker,he does not move at all.Why cos this tool(speaker) does not belong to him.But once its owner(Umno/Bn) uses it ,it works wonders.Ha Ha Ha.

]]> By: ktteokt http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/26/pkfz-scandal-does-ong-tee-keat-agree-that-the-speaker-has-put-the-cart-before-the-horse-in-claiming-that-there-is-no-point-in-tabling-pwc-report-on-pkfz-and-appendices-in-parliament-without-pac-repor/comment-page-1/#comment-182085 ktteokt Fri, 26 Jun 2009 11:55:48 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=4842#comment-182085 If OTK and the whole MCA can put on their underpants after putting on their pants, what's wrong with the cart before the donkey! If OTK and the whole MCA can put on their underpants after putting on their pants, what’s wrong with the cart before the donkey!

]]> By: House Victim http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/26/pkfz-scandal-does-ong-tee-keat-agree-that-the-speaker-has-put-the-cart-before-the-horse-in-claiming-that-there-is-no-point-in-tabling-pwc-report-on-pkfz-and-appendices-in-parliament-without-pac-repor/comment-page-1/#comment-182070 House Victim Fri, 26 Jun 2009 08:21:45 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=4842#comment-182070 1. The PWC Report touched mainly on the Violations of Procedures, so it is None of the Business of PAC nor the MACC. The latter is to see if Corruption involved. The tabling of PWC Report should be considered as a General obligation of PKA to MOT and so to MOF and the Parliament. 2. PAC only involved IF the Project had been officially approved with details such that special sum be used for the specified details. And, subjected if Audited Account Statement be presented via MOT to MOF, then, to the Parliament. The PWC is not an Audited Account that warrant the attention of PAC when they are not checking the Account.! 3. The functions of the Speaker http://www.parlimen.gov.my/eng-dR-diPertua.htm include: a) to be responsible for maintaining order in the House; b) to ensure that relevancy is observed during debates; c) to interpret the Standing Orders in case of disputes; and d) to certify money bills before such bills are transmitted to the Dewan Rakyat The Speaker has NO Decision making power to Stop MOT's obligation to provide Reports or whatsoever to the Parliament. 3. It is the obligation of MOT/MOF/Cabinet/PM to present to Parliament all essential document, including the PWC Report, to testify and verifiy a) What had been submitted for Approval under PAA by PKA and WHAT had been approved in Details on the Project by Parliament/Cabinet/MOF/MOT. b) What had been done so far with a Progress Reports, Audited Statement, Reports from Auditor General, etc.. c) The answers from the various Ministries on queries or questions raised by the PWC Report as well as queries from MP. 4. MACC Report should submitted long time ago on basis of Report of Corruption to ACA in 2004 filed by DAP. The Parliament should press MACC on such a Report. Did MACC mentioned anything in their Annual to the Special Committee, or Advisory Board? DOES SPEAKER UNDERSTAND HIS JOBS? 1. The PWC Report touched mainly on the Violations of Procedures, so it is None of the Business of PAC nor the MACC. The latter is to see if Corruption involved. The tabling of PWC Report should be considered as a General obligation of PKA to MOT and so to MOF and the Parliament.
2. PAC only involved
IF the Project had been officially approved with details such that special sum be used for the specified details. And, subjected if Audited Account Statement be presented via MOT to MOF, then, to the Parliament. The PWC is not an Audited Account that warrant the attention of PAC when they are not checking the Account.!
3. The functions of the Speaker
http://www.parlimen.gov.my/eng-dR-diPertua.htm
include:
a) to be responsible for maintaining order in the House;
b) to ensure that relevancy is observed during debates;
c) to interpret the Standing Orders in case of disputes; and
d) to certify money bills before such bills are transmitted to the Dewan Rakyat
The Speaker has NO Decision making power to Stop MOT’s obligation to provide Reports or whatsoever to the Parliament.
3. It is the obligation of MOT/MOF/Cabinet/PM to present to Parliament all essential document, including the PWC Report, to testify and verifiy
a) What had been submitted for Approval under PAA by PKA and WHAT had been approved in Details on the Project by Parliament/Cabinet/MOF/MOT.
b) What had been done so far with a Progress Reports, Audited Statement, Reports from Auditor General, etc..
c) The answers from the various Ministries on queries or questions raised by the PWC Report as well as queries from MP.

4. MACC Report should submitted long time ago on basis of Report of Corruption to ACA in 2004 filed by DAP. The Parliament should press MACC on such a Report. Did MACC mentioned anything in their Annual to the Special Committee, or Advisory Board?

DOES SPEAKER UNDERSTAND HIS JOBS?

]]> By: rabbit http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/26/pkfz-scandal-does-ong-tee-keat-agree-that-the-speaker-has-put-the-cart-before-the-horse-in-claiming-that-there-is-no-point-in-tabling-pwc-report-on-pkfz-and-appendices-in-parliament-without-pac-repor/comment-page-1/#comment-182061 rabbit Fri, 26 Jun 2009 06:01:50 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=4842#comment-182061 such a bullshit!!! Geram betul... they are playing the game, try to bring LKS garden walk...seems like they try to delay n slowly everyone forget about this issue. PKFZ shell not let go, must bite it till see blood. like LSK said, this mother of scandal. need to remove it. such a bullshit!!! Geram betul… they are playing the game, try to bring LKS garden walk…seems like they try to delay n slowly everyone forget about this issue. PKFZ shell not let go, must bite it till see blood. like LSK said, this mother of scandal. need to remove it.

]]> By: tanjong8 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/26/pkfz-scandal-does-ong-tee-keat-agree-that-the-speaker-has-put-the-cart-before-the-horse-in-claiming-that-there-is-no-point-in-tabling-pwc-report-on-pkfz-and-appendices-in-parliament-without-pac-repor/comment-page-1/#comment-182055 tanjong8 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 05:45:50 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=4842#comment-182055 DAP and PR must take this issue to the people in a large scale. No one of the right mind will tolerate such non-sense but the rural people may not be aware. Bring the issue to them and work the ground. Then,Change in Putrajaya is on the horizon come 2013 DAP and PR must take this issue to the people in a large scale.

No one of the right mind will tolerate such non-sense but the rural people may not be aware.

Bring the issue to them and work the ground.

Then,Change in Putrajaya is on the horizon come 2013

]]> By: frankyapp http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/26/pkfz-scandal-does-ong-tee-keat-agree-that-the-speaker-has-put-the-cart-before-the-horse-in-claiming-that-there-is-no-point-in-tabling-pwc-report-on-pkfz-and-appendices-in-parliament-without-pac-repor/comment-page-1/#comment-182040 frankyapp Fri, 26 Jun 2009 04:48:33 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=4842#comment-182040 YB Lim,I told you so and it's happening now right infront of your face.The speaker is a tool which is used only by Umno,particularly by NR whenever its interest is question.The speaker is nothing but like a hound dog.He wants PAC report first,and said dumb thing like "no PAC report means no PWC report to be tabled ". He knows PAC pretty well more than we (rakyat) know what PAC is. I know PAC is a kind of a tool like him(speaker).Both are tools but use for different application.What the speaker is telling you YB Lim is for you to wait for the PAC's report until doom day comes. Your effort may be not successful in parliament but it generated pretty lots of interest and awareness among the citizens/voters. This's what matter most. YB Lim,I told you so and it’s happening now right infront of your face.The speaker is a tool which is used only by Umno,particularly by NR whenever its interest is question.The speaker is nothing but like a hound dog.He wants PAC report first,and said dumb thing like “no PAC report means no PWC report to be tabled “. He knows PAC pretty well more than we (rakyat) know what PAC is. I know PAC is a kind of a tool like him(speaker).Both are tools but use for different application.What the speaker is telling you YB Lim is for you to wait for the PAC’s report until doom day comes. Your effort may be not successful in parliament but it generated pretty lots of interest and awareness among the citizens/voters. This’s what matter most.

]]> By: Onlooker Politics http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/26/pkfz-scandal-does-ong-tee-keat-agree-that-the-speaker-has-put-the-cart-before-the-horse-in-claiming-that-there-is-no-point-in-tabling-pwc-report-on-pkfz-and-appendices-in-parliament-without-pac-repor/comment-page-1/#comment-182037 Onlooker Politics Fri, 26 Jun 2009 04:25:13 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=4842#comment-182037 Sorry, YB Kit! Ong Tee Keat has no time to answer too many questions which you raised here for him to respond. Don't you know that he has gotten a lot of internal troubles in MCA now? With the appointment of Dr. Chua as the Inter-parties Coordinator who reports duty directly to Najib, who is bestowed with the power to go around many MCA's defeated Parliamentary Constituencies as Najib's special ambassador, Dr. Chua has already been becoming a more and more popular MCA leader who outshines Ong Tee Keat. Ong Tee Keat could not even have a proper control on Johore MCA, where he chairs as the Head of the Johore State Liason Committee of MCA, since many Dr. Chua's supporters in Johore have turned themselves to be the fugitives who rebel against Ong Tee Keat. With so many imminent tasks pending to be resolved by Ong Tee Keat at MCA internally, how do you expect him to find time to give you a satisfactory answer on the PKFZ scandal? Why don't you offer Ong Tee Keat a chance to give him a break at the moment but get him to promise you to pay you back the favour when comes to the contest for State Ruling Power in Sarawak in the coming state-wide election? Sorry, YB Kit!

Ong Tee Keat has no time to answer too many questions which you raised here for him to respond. Don’t you know that he has gotten a lot of internal troubles in MCA now? With the appointment of Dr. Chua as the Inter-parties Coordinator who reports duty directly to Najib, who is bestowed with the power to go around many MCA’s defeated Parliamentary Constituencies as Najib’s special ambassador, Dr. Chua has already been becoming a more and more popular MCA leader who outshines Ong Tee Keat.

Ong Tee Keat could not even have a proper control on Johore MCA, where he chairs as the Head of the Johore State Liason Committee of MCA, since many Dr. Chua’s supporters in Johore have turned themselves to be the fugitives who rebel against Ong Tee Keat.

With so many imminent tasks pending to be resolved by Ong Tee Keat at MCA internally, how do you expect him to find time to give you a satisfactory answer on the PKFZ scandal? Why don’t you offer Ong Tee Keat a chance to give him a break at the moment but get him to promise you to pay you back the favour when comes to the contest for State Ruling Power in Sarawak in the coming state-wide election?

]]> By: boh-liao http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/26/pkfz-scandal-does-ong-tee-keat-agree-that-the-speaker-has-put-the-cart-before-the-horse-in-claiming-that-there-is-no-point-in-tabling-pwc-report-on-pkfz-and-appendices-in-parliament-without-pac-repor/comment-page-1/#comment-182035 boh-liao Fri, 26 Jun 2009 04:14:47 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=4842#comment-182035 BN MPs and state assemblymen are trained to be the See not, Hear not, n Speak not monkeys Whether the cart is before the horse or the horse before the cart means nothing to the No see, No hear, n No speak monkeys Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely BN MPs and state assemblymen only wish PR MPs and state assemblymen to behave same same BN MPs and state assemblymen are trained to be
the See not, Hear not, n Speak not monkeys
Whether the cart is before the horse or
the horse before the cart
means nothing to the No see, No hear, n No speak monkeys
Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely
BN MPs and state assemblymen only wish
PR MPs and state assemblymen to behave same same

]]> By: the reds http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/26/pkfz-scandal-does-ong-tee-keat-agree-that-the-speaker-has-put-the-cart-before-the-horse-in-claiming-that-there-is-no-point-in-tabling-pwc-report-on-pkfz-and-appendices-in-parliament-without-pac-repor/comment-page-1/#comment-182029 the reds Fri, 26 Jun 2009 03:06:59 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=4842#comment-182029 Tomorrow never ends! BN tries to drag this issue as long as possible, until people forget about it! As Uncle Lim rightly pointed out what is the point of implementing KPI system with KPI Minister, when there is no KPI culture among BN Ministers? Tomorrow never ends! BN tries to drag this issue as long as possible, until people forget about it! As Uncle Lim rightly pointed out what is the point of implementing KPI system with KPI Minister, when there is no KPI culture among BN Ministers?

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