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	<title>Comments on: PKFZ scandal &#8211; Ong Tee Keat caught red-handed telling an untruth on the RM1.2 billion KDSB variation order</title>
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		<title>By: TomThumb</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/23/pkfz-scandal-ong-tee-keat-caught-red-handed-telling-an-untruth-on-the-rm1-2-billion-kdsb-variation-order/comment-page-1/#comment-181902</link>
		<dc:creator>TomThumb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what did kit uncle lim know? when did he know? the rest of us would like to know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what did kit uncle lim know? when did he know? the rest of us would like to know.</p>
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		<title>By: imranj78</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/23/pkfz-scandal-ong-tee-keat-caught-red-handed-telling-an-untruth-on-the-rm1-2-billion-kdsb-variation-order/comment-page-1/#comment-181875</link>
		<dc:creator>imranj78</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LKS,
Care to explain and respond to OTK&#039;s statement below? 

“I bring Kit Siang to task for suppressing the truth and to continue misleading the House and the public. He rudely interrupted my ministerial statement by accusing me of not referring to the Cabinet decision on 23rd October 2002 that the land should be acquired at a lower price of RM10.16psf.

What Kit Siang had conveniently omitted to mention was that the decision on the 23rd of October was subsequently superseded by the Cabinet in its meeting on 6th of November 2002.

The DAP leader may not be a cabinet member but the Parliamentary Hansard dated 4th September 2007 clearly recorded that the decision of the cabinet on the 2nd of October 2002 to purchase the land at RM25psf continued to stand for the reasons mentioned in my parliamentary statement.

Kit Siang knew of this. In fact, he was engaged in a debate on this on 4th of September 2007. He even posted excerpts of the Hansard in his blog the very next day. And yet he chose to suppress this important fact from the public for the sake of a political gimmick bent on rescuing his fading political career.

My challenge to Kit Siang is for him to be man enough to admit that he had deliberately misled and confused the public by failing to disclose the full and proper account of Cabinet decisions on the PKFZ project. He should administer the dosage of medicine that he so freely prescribes for others on himself by referring his ownself to the Committee of Privileges.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LKS,<br />
Care to explain and respond to OTK&#8217;s statement below? </p>
<p>“I bring Kit Siang to task for suppressing the truth and to continue misleading the House and the public. He rudely interrupted my ministerial statement by accusing me of not referring to the Cabinet decision on 23rd October 2002 that the land should be acquired at a lower price of RM10.16psf.</p>
<p>What Kit Siang had conveniently omitted to mention was that the decision on the 23rd of October was subsequently superseded by the Cabinet in its meeting on 6th of November 2002.</p>
<p>The DAP leader may not be a cabinet member but the Parliamentary Hansard dated 4th September 2007 clearly recorded that the decision of the cabinet on the 2nd of October 2002 to purchase the land at RM25psf continued to stand for the reasons mentioned in my parliamentary statement.</p>
<p>Kit Siang knew of this. In fact, he was engaged in a debate on this on 4th of September 2007. He even posted excerpts of the Hansard in his blog the very next day. And yet he chose to suppress this important fact from the public for the sake of a political gimmick bent on rescuing his fading political career.</p>
<p>My challenge to Kit Siang is for him to be man enough to admit that he had deliberately misled and confused the public by failing to disclose the full and proper account of Cabinet decisions on the PKFZ project. He should administer the dosage of medicine that he so freely prescribes for others on himself by referring his ownself to the Committee of Privileges.”</p>
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		<title>By: deFurious</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/23/pkfz-scandal-ong-tee-keat-caught-red-handed-telling-an-untruth-on-the-rm1-2-billion-kdsb-variation-order/comment-page-1/#comment-181839</link>
		<dc:creator>deFurious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 02:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ong has now accused YB Lim was the one misled the public. Looks who&#039;s talking?

Umno-ized MCA knew how to learn the same dirty tricks from his master, I sympathized those MCA supporters especially my father. He played down after the 308. There was not even single thing he can cheer out loud for MCA.

He used to believe Ong still can be respected - a person with dignity. All down to the drain....

Shame on MCA. Dun ever claim u represent Malaysia Chinese... not me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ong has now accused YB Lim was the one misled the public. Looks who&#8217;s talking?</p>
<p>Umno-ized MCA knew how to learn the same dirty tricks from his master, I sympathized those MCA supporters especially my father. He played down after the 308. There was not even single thing he can cheer out loud for MCA.</p>
<p>He used to believe Ong still can be respected &#8211; a person with dignity. All down to the drain&#8230;.</p>
<p>Shame on MCA. Dun ever claim u represent Malaysia Chinese&#8230; not me.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Ng</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Ng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As expected, nothing new. So typical of BN agencies. These donkeys don&#039;t even care what you think. They act as they wish.

Enough of this BN &#039;sandiwara.&#039; This MACC is like a monkey show now. When it involved Selangor MB, Tan Sri Khalid Ibrahim, those MACC monkeys were so &#039;super effective and efficient&#039; with their investigation that they announced that they had proof. Till now, we haven&#039;t heard that Tan Sri Khalid Ibrahim has been charged in court.

However, when it involves BN cronies, as usual, they take forever till people forget about the scandal. There were already reports made few years ago, but they didn&#039;t find anything wrong. Of course there is nothing wrong for BN cronies, it&#039;s a BN project for BN cronies. &#039;Sama-sama makan, sama-sama kaya&#039; project. What do we get? Nothing, we are still poor as ever. We work and pay tax, and they take away the money and keep it in their bank accounts. We pay RM10, they give us back RM3 and they call that development.

To the people of Sabah and Sarawak, please stop voting for BN. If you want to vote for BN, vote for them to take care of your state government, NOT the federal government. The tax money you pay is going to the pocket of the BN cronies in Peninsular Malaysia. It is not little money. It is RM12.5 billion. What do you get in Sabah and Sarawak? Nothing, no development, no welfare programs. They take your timber and petroleum everyday, but give you nothing back. Think wisely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As expected, nothing new. So typical of BN agencies. These donkeys don&#8217;t even care what you think. They act as they wish.</p>
<p>Enough of this BN &#8216;sandiwara.&#8217; This MACC is like a monkey show now. When it involved Selangor MB, Tan Sri Khalid Ibrahim, those MACC monkeys were so &#8216;super effective and efficient&#8217; with their investigation that they announced that they had proof. Till now, we haven&#8217;t heard that Tan Sri Khalid Ibrahim has been charged in court.</p>
<p>However, when it involves BN cronies, as usual, they take forever till people forget about the scandal. There were already reports made few years ago, but they didn&#8217;t find anything wrong. Of course there is nothing wrong for BN cronies, it&#8217;s a BN project for BN cronies. &#8216;Sama-sama makan, sama-sama kaya&#8217; project. What do we get? Nothing, we are still poor as ever. We work and pay tax, and they take away the money and keep it in their bank accounts. We pay RM10, they give us back RM3 and they call that development.</p>
<p>To the people of Sabah and Sarawak, please stop voting for BN. If you want to vote for BN, vote for them to take care of your state government, NOT the federal government. The tax money you pay is going to the pocket of the BN cronies in Peninsular Malaysia. It is not little money. It is RM12.5 billion. What do you get in Sabah and Sarawak? Nothing, no development, no welfare programs. They take your timber and petroleum everyday, but give you nothing back. Think wisely.</p>
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		<title>By: House Victim</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/23/pkfz-scandal-ong-tee-keat-caught-red-handed-telling-an-untruth-on-the-rm1-2-billion-kdsb-variation-order/comment-page-1/#comment-181781</link>
		<dc:creator>House Victim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Key points remain:

1. PKA is bounded by PAA - Port Authority Act.
2. Any project arisen have to follow the procedures set down by PAA, Obviously, it was not done and not details and variation been approved.
3. Letters of Guarantee have to be issued by MOF,  provided the Project was approved with all the details and subsequent variations.
4. The project as such do not have other evidence, until now, but only showing it was manipulated with Letter of Guarantee from MOT and the &quot;ding-dong&quot; between MOF and MOT on the Soft-loans and so called Rescue Plan where the Government had not liability to handle.  

5. Only those Ministers starting and running the Project to such a mess should be answerable to any Debtors of PKA.

6. The Parliament should turn their focus to demand explanation and responsibility on the granting of Soft-loan to PKA. 

It is a case of Fraudulents! 
The Privilege Committee (if it is functioning) should be called to handle those Ministers concerned. Police and AG should take other responsible to the Court. 

BUT, IS PRIVILEGE COMMITTEE AN INDEPENDENT AND COMPETENT BODY?
POLICE AND AG HAD LONG OUT OF THEIR OBLIGED PERFORMANCE!!

PM GIVE THE RIGHT PENALTY TO THOSE MINISTERS AND OFFICERS INVOLVED AND RESIGN IF HE WISH TO KEEP HIS DIGNITY. 
 
The Worst of ALL is Logic and Law, Proper Procedures, Obligations and Rights are not working!!

IF THE PARLIAMENT CANNOT DRAW A CONCLUSION THAT THEY SHOULD NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PKFZ BUT PRESSING PM TO DO THE NECESSARY. GONE THE DIGNITY OF THE PARLIAMENT, IF  MOTION OF CONFIDENCE CANNOT BE CASTED AND VOTED OUT THE EXISTING GOVERNMENT! 

ALL OF THESE ARE JUST A JOKE AND SHOW AT THE EXPENSE OF  TAXPAYERS TO TAKE IN DOWN THEIR THROAT AND NOT EVEN TO SOB!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Key points remain:</p>
<p>1. PKA is bounded by PAA &#8211; Port Authority Act.<br />
2. Any project arisen have to follow the procedures set down by PAA, Obviously, it was not done and not details and variation been approved.<br />
3. Letters of Guarantee have to be issued by MOF,  provided the Project was approved with all the details and subsequent variations.<br />
4. The project as such do not have other evidence, until now, but only showing it was manipulated with Letter of Guarantee from MOT and the &#8220;ding-dong&#8221; between MOF and MOT on the Soft-loans and so called Rescue Plan where the Government had not liability to handle.  </p>
<p>5. Only those Ministers starting and running the Project to such a mess should be answerable to any Debtors of PKA.</p>
<p>6. The Parliament should turn their focus to demand explanation and responsibility on the granting of Soft-loan to PKA. </p>
<p>It is a case of Fraudulents!<br />
The Privilege Committee (if it is functioning) should be called to handle those Ministers concerned. Police and AG should take other responsible to the Court. </p>
<p>BUT, IS PRIVILEGE COMMITTEE AN INDEPENDENT AND COMPETENT BODY?<br />
POLICE AND AG HAD LONG OUT OF THEIR OBLIGED PERFORMANCE!!</p>
<p>PM GIVE THE RIGHT PENALTY TO THOSE MINISTERS AND OFFICERS INVOLVED AND RESIGN IF HE WISH TO KEEP HIS DIGNITY. </p>
<p>The Worst of ALL is Logic and Law, Proper Procedures, Obligations and Rights are not working!!</p>
<p>IF THE PARLIAMENT CANNOT DRAW A CONCLUSION THAT THEY SHOULD NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PKFZ BUT PRESSING PM TO DO THE NECESSARY. GONE THE DIGNITY OF THE PARLIAMENT, IF  MOTION OF CONFIDENCE CANNOT BE CASTED AND VOTED OUT THE EXISTING GOVERNMENT! </p>
<p>ALL OF THESE ARE JUST A JOKE AND SHOW AT THE EXPENSE OF  TAXPAYERS TO TAKE IN DOWN THEIR THROAT AND NOT EVEN TO SOB!!</p>
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		<title>By: rabbit</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/23/pkfz-scandal-ong-tee-keat-caught-red-handed-telling-an-untruth-on-the-rm1-2-billion-kdsb-variation-order/comment-page-1/#comment-181765</link>
		<dc:creator>rabbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we really need to throw away the bad apple, if not the hold basket of apple will damage, don&#039;t forget, we r tax payer!!! dig them out and plant new apple tree in. the result will see it on GE13.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we really need to throw away the bad apple, if not the hold basket of apple will damage, don&#8217;t forget, we r tax payer!!! dig them out and plant new apple tree in. the result will see it on GE13.</p>
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		<title>By: limkamput</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/23/pkfz-scandal-ong-tee-keat-caught-red-handed-telling-an-untruth-on-the-rm1-2-billion-kdsb-variation-order/comment-page-1/#comment-181764</link>
		<dc:creator>limkamput</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only government projects have the most number and biggest amount of variation orders or costs. Before I forget, this is another manifestation of corruption in case the dumb and the one who writes eloquently think these are mere incompetence or negligence.

Hello, wannabe, Limkamput needs no redemption from anybody.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only government projects have the most number and biggest amount of variation orders or costs. Before I forget, this is another manifestation of corruption in case the dumb and the one who writes eloquently think these are mere incompetence or negligence.</p>
<p>Hello, wannabe, Limkamput needs no redemption from anybody.</p>
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		<title>By: i_love_malaysia</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/23/pkfz-scandal-ong-tee-keat-caught-red-handed-telling-an-untruth-on-the-rm1-2-billion-kdsb-variation-order/comment-page-1/#comment-181760</link>
		<dc:creator>i_love_malaysia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Chinese Gentlement, OTK should just resign from the Transport Minister post and concentrate on party matters!!! There are lots of party matters waiting for him to settle!!!

As the Chinese saying goes, &quot;Dont bend your back for the sack of 5 buckets of rice&quot; !!! There are lots of capable people in MCA e.g. CSL and sons of LLS etc etc!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Chinese Gentlement, OTK should just resign from the Transport Minister post and concentrate on party matters!!! There are lots of party matters waiting for him to settle!!!</p>
<p>As the Chinese saying goes, &#8220;Dont bend your back for the sack of 5 buckets of rice&#8221; !!! There are lots of capable people in MCA e.g. CSL and sons of LLS etc etc!!!</p>
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		<title>By: i_love_malaysia</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/23/pkfz-scandal-ong-tee-keat-caught-red-handed-telling-an-untruth-on-the-rm1-2-billion-kdsb-variation-order/comment-page-1/#comment-181759</link>
		<dc:creator>i_love_malaysia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BN always says opposition only know how to criticise and condemn the govt but never give solution to the problem. 

For PKFZ, as a good citizen of our beloved country and to stop the rot of the PKFZ&#039;s burden on the Rakyat, I would like to propose to ask UMNO, MCA, Gerakan, MIC and all the other ruling BN parties&#039; owned companies to buy up PKFZ for a fair value since BN govt thought that it is viable and going to make tons of profits in the very near future. If BN parties felt that it is too risky for them to do so, they might just list it in BURSA and see how many people are going for its shares. Who knows, may be PSA of Singapore might want to buy all the shares and BN parties will really make tons of money out of this scandal!!! Who knows may be the whole scandal was orchestrated by those interested parties in order to buy cheap and sell high!!! We have seen so many of these before, now and future (before GE13) under BN govt!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BN always says opposition only know how to criticise and condemn the govt but never give solution to the problem. </p>
<p>For PKFZ, as a good citizen of our beloved country and to stop the rot of the PKFZ&#8217;s burden on the Rakyat, I would like to propose to ask UMNO, MCA, Gerakan, MIC and all the other ruling BN parties&#8217; owned companies to buy up PKFZ for a fair value since BN govt thought that it is viable and going to make tons of profits in the very near future. If BN parties felt that it is too risky for them to do so, they might just list it in BURSA and see how many people are going for its shares. Who knows, may be PSA of Singapore might want to buy all the shares and BN parties will really make tons of money out of this scandal!!! Who knows may be the whole scandal was orchestrated by those interested parties in order to buy cheap and sell high!!! We have seen so many of these before, now and future (before GE13) under BN govt!!!</p>
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		<title>By: boh-liao</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/23/pkfz-scandal-ong-tee-keat-caught-red-handed-telling-an-untruth-on-the-rm1-2-billion-kdsb-variation-order/comment-page-1/#comment-181755</link>
		<dc:creator>boh-liao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 07:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever crap coming our from OTK&#039;s orifice
MCA members will cheer Yeah, Yeah
And the party claimed to act for the benefits of
Malaysian Chinese (can&#039;t even differentiate between this n
Chinese Malaysians</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever crap coming our from OTK&#8217;s orifice<br />
MCA members will cheer Yeah, Yeah<br />
And the party claimed to act for the benefits of<br />
Malaysian Chinese (can&#8217;t even differentiate between this n<br />
Chinese Malaysians</p>
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		<title>By: monsterball</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/23/pkfz-scandal-ong-tee-keat-caught-red-handed-telling-an-untruth-on-the-rm1-2-billion-kdsb-variation-order/comment-page-1/#comment-181752</link>
		<dc:creator>monsterball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Bukan gua bikin&quot;....siapa bikin?
Useless irresponsible balless creatures.
Only know how to talk stupid ad protect each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Bukan gua bikin&#8221;&#8230;.siapa bikin?<br />
Useless irresponsible balless creatures.<br />
Only know how to talk stupid ad protect each other.</p>
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		<title>By: monsterball</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/23/pkfz-scandal-ong-tee-keat-caught-red-handed-telling-an-untruth-on-the-rm1-2-billion-kdsb-variation-order/comment-page-1/#comment-181751</link>
		<dc:creator>monsterball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bringing Malaysians backward ..and  on corruption...forget about it...lets move forward.....what logic is that?
Crab walking ...talking and behaving....such is our crab government men at work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bringing Malaysians backward ..and  on corruption&#8230;forget about it&#8230;lets move forward&#8230;..what logic is that?<br />
Crab walking &#8230;talking and behaving&#8230;.such is our crab government men at work.</p>
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		<title>By: Onlooker Politics</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/23/pkfz-scandal-ong-tee-keat-caught-red-handed-telling-an-untruth-on-the-rm1-2-billion-kdsb-variation-order/comment-page-1/#comment-181750</link>
		<dc:creator>Onlooker Politics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We may not like what we see if we dig, so let’s not dig. This is the BN way.&quot;  (Godfather)

Godfather finally says something which makes sense!

If we really have to dig, perhaps we just need to demolish a warehouse that had been built on PKFZ project and then to dig out all the piles which had been hammered underground.  Perhaps we will see that the combined pile length of a single pile point underneath one pile cap may be only 150 feet long but the record sheet prepared by the Clerk-of-Work shows 450 feet long.  No wonder the actual construction cost in Malaysia&#039;s government projects has always outrun the projected cost being prudently estimated by a professional Consultant Engineer or a professional Architect!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We may not like what we see if we dig, so let’s not dig. This is the BN way.&#8221;  (Godfather)</p>
<p>Godfather finally says something which makes sense!</p>
<p>If we really have to dig, perhaps we just need to demolish a warehouse that had been built on PKFZ project and then to dig out all the piles which had been hammered underground.  Perhaps we will see that the combined pile length of a single pile point underneath one pile cap may be only 150 feet long but the record sheet prepared by the Clerk-of-Work shows 450 feet long.  No wonder the actual construction cost in Malaysia&#8217;s government projects has always outrun the projected cost being prudently estimated by a professional Consultant Engineer or a professional Architect!</p>
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		<title>By: Godfather</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/23/pkfz-scandal-ong-tee-keat-caught-red-handed-telling-an-untruth-on-the-rm1-2-billion-kdsb-variation-order/comment-page-1/#comment-181748</link>
		<dc:creator>Godfather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ong Ta Kut says &quot;Bukan gua bikin.&quot;

Lee Ah Beng says &quot;Bukan gua bikin.&quot;

Then who bikin ?  Never mind who bikin, let&#039;s look forward and try to rescue the PKFZ project, say the BN thieves.  Task Force, consultants, all hired to look forward.  Don&#039;t bother with looking back to see who&#039;s responsible for the mess.  We may not like what we see if we dig, so let&#039;s not dig.  This is the BN way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ong Ta Kut says &#8220;Bukan gua bikin.&#8221;</p>
<p>Lee Ah Beng says &#8220;Bukan gua bikin.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then who bikin ?  Never mind who bikin, let&#8217;s look forward and try to rescue the PKFZ project, say the BN thieves.  Task Force, consultants, all hired to look forward.  Don&#8217;t bother with looking back to see who&#8217;s responsible for the mess.  We may not like what we see if we dig, so let&#8217;s not dig.  This is the BN way.</p>
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		<title>By: Brats195</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/23/pkfz-scandal-ong-tee-keat-caught-red-handed-telling-an-untruth-on-the-rm1-2-billion-kdsb-variation-order/comment-page-1/#comment-181747</link>
		<dc:creator>Brats195</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This report is very and lacking in focus;

1) There is no APPENDIX 1,2,3 in the report. How do you expect us to comprehend the report without supporting document?

2) The scope is well defined but there is neither summary nor details pertaining to the &quot;authority to enter into contract&quot;, &quot;authority to revise the budget&quot; and &quot;process to award the contract.

I wonder why are we spending more RAKYAT&#039;s report when there is NO substance in the report?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This report is very and lacking in focus;</p>
<p>1) There is no APPENDIX 1,2,3 in the report. How do you expect us to comprehend the report without supporting document?</p>
<p>2) The scope is well defined but there is neither summary nor details pertaining to the &#8220;authority to enter into contract&#8221;, &#8220;authority to revise the budget&#8221; and &#8220;process to award the contract.</p>
<p>I wonder why are we spending more RAKYAT&#8217;s report when there is NO substance in the report?</p>
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		<title>By: k1980</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/23/pkfz-scandal-ong-tee-keat-caught-red-handed-telling-an-untruth-on-the-rm1-2-billion-kdsb-variation-order/comment-page-1/#comment-181743</link>
		<dc:creator>k1980</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PR needs to concentrate on Sabah and Sarawak to topple BN

&lt;i&gt;In the last general election on 8 March 2008, the opposition -- meaning DAP here -- won just one parliament seat in Sabah and another in Sarawak. Barisan Nasional retained 54 seats in both states.

Nationwide, Barisan Nasional won 140 seats in total while the opposition won 82. But if we minus the 54 seats from East Malaysia, Barisan Nasional won only 86 seats against the opposition’s 80 (also if we minus the two DAP seats in Sabah and Sarawak). Now, however, since the Kuala Terengganu by-election, it is 85 Barisan Nasional versus 81 Pakatan Rakyat.

Can you see how crucial Sabah and Sarawak are to Barisan Nasional? In the next general election Barisan Nasional may win less seats than Pakatan Rakyat in Peninsular Malaysia. I would even dare bet that Pakatan Rakyat has a good chance of winning 95 seats against Barisan Nasional’s 71. This means Barisan Nasional needs to win at least 50 seats from Sabah and Sarawak to form the federal government with a minimum of 121 seats. That would give Barisan Nasional a nine-seat margin over the 112 required to form the federal government.

Nine seats is not a very large margin. But if Pakatan Rakyat increases its seats in Peninsular Malaysia from 81 to 95, then Barisan Nasional will need Sabah and Sarawak even more than before. However, Barisan Nasional will need to win at least 50 of the 56 seats in East Malaysia. If it wins only 40 seats instead of 50, then Barisan Nasional and Pakatan Rakyat would be locked in an ‘hung parliament’ with 111 seats each.

Source: RPK&#039;s blog&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PR needs to concentrate on Sabah and Sarawak to topple BN</p>
<p><i>In the last general election on 8 March 2008, the opposition &#8212; meaning DAP here &#8212; won just one parliament seat in Sabah and another in Sarawak. Barisan Nasional retained 54 seats in both states.</p>
<p>Nationwide, Barisan Nasional won 140 seats in total while the opposition won 82. But if we minus the 54 seats from East Malaysia, Barisan Nasional won only 86 seats against the opposition’s 80 (also if we minus the two DAP seats in Sabah and Sarawak). Now, however, since the Kuala Terengganu by-election, it is 85 Barisan Nasional versus 81 Pakatan Rakyat.</p>
<p>Can you see how crucial Sabah and Sarawak are to Barisan Nasional? In the next general election Barisan Nasional may win less seats than Pakatan Rakyat in Peninsular Malaysia. I would even dare bet that Pakatan Rakyat has a good chance of winning 95 seats against Barisan Nasional’s 71. This means Barisan Nasional needs to win at least 50 seats from Sabah and Sarawak to form the federal government with a minimum of 121 seats. That would give Barisan Nasional a nine-seat margin over the 112 required to form the federal government.</p>
<p>Nine seats is not a very large margin. But if Pakatan Rakyat increases its seats in Peninsular Malaysia from 81 to 95, then Barisan Nasional will need Sabah and Sarawak even more than before. However, Barisan Nasional will need to win at least 50 of the 56 seats in East Malaysia. If it wins only 40 seats instead of 50, then Barisan Nasional and Pakatan Rakyat would be locked in an ‘hung parliament’ with 111 seats each.</p>
<p>Source: RPK&#8217;s blog</i></p>
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		<title>By: Onlooker Politics</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/23/pkfz-scandal-ong-tee-keat-caught-red-handed-telling-an-untruth-on-the-rm1-2-billion-kdsb-variation-order/comment-page-1/#comment-181742</link>
		<dc:creator>Onlooker Politics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;PKFZ’s variation costs was as large as the original project costs. What can we say? Something stinks to high heavan. Doesnt it?&quot; (taiking)

Who is the Professional Consultant Engineer who has the power to approve variation engineering design of PKFZ project?  And who is the Quantity Surveyor who has the power to certify the claim of the Main Contractor based on provisional quantities that had been properly and honestly surveyed by the Clerk-of-Work?  (Anyway, is there really an honest Clerk-of-Work around for PKFZ project?)

Does PKA&#039;s chairman know about the meaning of the engineering terminology called &quot;scoring&quot;?  If Ong Tee Keat and PKA chairman both don&#039;t know about the possibility of happening of &quot;scoring&quot; in a construction project, then both of them will not be qualified to manage a huge infrastructure development project such as that of PKFZ!  It is time for Ong Tee Keat and PKA chairman to learn from a reliable Consultant Engineer and not to become a buddy of Dato Tiong of Kuala Dimensi Sdn Bhd in order to avoid some conflicts of interest in project management!  Or else, Ong Tee Keat and the PKA chairman should choose to resign in order to give up their respective official seat to other more capable people in Malaysia!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;PKFZ’s variation costs was as large as the original project costs. What can we say? Something stinks to high heavan. Doesnt it?&#8221; (taiking)</p>
<p>Who is the Professional Consultant Engineer who has the power to approve variation engineering design of PKFZ project?  And who is the Quantity Surveyor who has the power to certify the claim of the Main Contractor based on provisional quantities that had been properly and honestly surveyed by the Clerk-of-Work?  (Anyway, is there really an honest Clerk-of-Work around for PKFZ project?)</p>
<p>Does PKA&#8217;s chairman know about the meaning of the engineering terminology called &#8220;scoring&#8221;?  If Ong Tee Keat and PKA chairman both don&#8217;t know about the possibility of happening of &#8220;scoring&#8221; in a construction project, then both of them will not be qualified to manage a huge infrastructure development project such as that of PKFZ!  It is time for Ong Tee Keat and PKA chairman to learn from a reliable Consultant Engineer and not to become a buddy of Dato Tiong of Kuala Dimensi Sdn Bhd in order to avoid some conflicts of interest in project management!  Or else, Ong Tee Keat and the PKA chairman should choose to resign in order to give up their respective official seat to other more capable people in Malaysia!</p>
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		<title>By: Ken G</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/23/pkfz-scandal-ong-tee-keat-caught-red-handed-telling-an-untruth-on-the-rm1-2-billion-kdsb-variation-order/comment-page-1/#comment-181741</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will any heads roll for PKFZ?

Of course no heads will roll as there is no political will in Ong or Najib to get to the bottom of this plunder. All that Ong is trying to do is to whitewash the affair by setting up &quot;professional teams&quot; to manage PKFZ in the hope that the public will overlook this enormous robbery.

Bringing the culprits to book is not about the politics of vengence. If nobody goes punished there will be more PKFZ&#039;s in future.

For your children&#039;s future, VOTE OUT BN!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will any heads roll for PKFZ?</p>
<p>Of course no heads will roll as there is no political will in Ong or Najib to get to the bottom of this plunder. All that Ong is trying to do is to whitewash the affair by setting up &#8220;professional teams&#8221; to manage PKFZ in the hope that the public will overlook this enormous robbery.</p>
<p>Bringing the culprits to book is not about the politics of vengence. If nobody goes punished there will be more PKFZ&#8217;s in future.</p>
<p>For your children&#8217;s future, VOTE OUT BN!</p>
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		<title>By: taiking</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/23/pkfz-scandal-ong-tee-keat-caught-red-handed-telling-an-untruth-on-the-rm1-2-billion-kdsb-variation-order/comment-page-1/#comment-181739</link>
		<dc:creator>taiking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Variation in construction works are very usual. Project owners often change their minds in the middle of construction and make changes to the original design prepared by their consultants (i.e. architects). Having said so developers hardly change their original design for it means additional costs which they cannot pass on to purchasers. Changes are usually more in the way of (1) fine-tuning their original idea or (2) accommodating some unforeseen situations that came to light during construction (which includes budget constraints resulting in down-sizing of the original project) or even (3) which is very usual, to overcome some technical / engineering problems (e.g. very soft ground encountered resulting in original foundation design not workable or inadequate). 

And as the word &#039;variation&#039; suggest, it should not be too extensive or so extensive as to result in a complete or even substantial change of the original idea. If that is so then something was seriously wrong with the original plan - assuming that the variation is justified. That is also to say, if there was nothing wrong with the original plan then is the variation which is substantial justifiable?

PKFZ&#039;s variation costs was as large as the original project costs. What can we say? Something stinks to high heavan. Doesnt it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Variation in construction works are very usual. Project owners often change their minds in the middle of construction and make changes to the original design prepared by their consultants (i.e. architects). Having said so developers hardly change their original design for it means additional costs which they cannot pass on to purchasers. Changes are usually more in the way of (1) fine-tuning their original idea or (2) accommodating some unforeseen situations that came to light during construction (which includes budget constraints resulting in down-sizing of the original project) or even (3) which is very usual, to overcome some technical / engineering problems (e.g. very soft ground encountered resulting in original foundation design not workable or inadequate). </p>
<p>And as the word &#8216;variation&#8217; suggest, it should not be too extensive or so extensive as to result in a complete or even substantial change of the original idea. If that is so then something was seriously wrong with the original plan &#8211; assuming that the variation is justified. That is also to say, if there was nothing wrong with the original plan then is the variation which is substantial justifiable?</p>
<p>PKFZ&#8217;s variation costs was as large as the original project costs. What can we say? Something stinks to high heavan. Doesnt it?</p>
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		<title>By: ENDANGERED HORNBILL</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/23/pkfz-scandal-ong-tee-keat-caught-red-handed-telling-an-untruth-on-the-rm1-2-billion-kdsb-variation-order/comment-page-1/#comment-181736</link>
		<dc:creator>ENDANGERED HORNBILL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 04:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OTK must surely want to know the difference between statesmen and estate boys. 

Statesmen are long remembered for their selfless services to their nations long after their bones return to the dust. &quot;Estate boys&quot; - well, we have some living examples around. &quot;Estate boys&quot; are remembered for a season but soon become consigned to the heaps of &#039;long-forgotten-history&quot;, in many cases, even ere their bones are incarcerated. MCA has many &#039;estate boys&#039;. OTK must beware the fates of such ilk like Ong Ka Ting, Ling Liong Sik and so on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OTK must surely want to know the difference between statesmen and estate boys. </p>
<p>Statesmen are long remembered for their selfless services to their nations long after their bones return to the dust. &#8220;Estate boys&#8221; &#8211; well, we have some living examples around. &#8220;Estate boys&#8221; are remembered for a season but soon become consigned to the heaps of &#8216;long-forgotten-history&#8221;, in many cases, even ere their bones are incarcerated. MCA has many &#8216;estate boys&#8217;. OTK must beware the fates of such ilk like Ong Ka Ting, Ling Liong Sik and so on.</p>
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