Muhyiddin the latest political leader to do the somersault to become the champion of “Umno-Pas unity government talks” and repudiate Najib’s 1Malaysia concept


Deputy Prime Minister and Umno Deputy President, Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin is the latest political leader to perform the somersault – taking a diametrically opposite position from the one he had postured only a few days or even a few hours ago!

Speaking in Kuala Krai this morning, Muhyiddin said Umno wants talks on a unity government to be sped up and asks PAS leaders to forget past conflicts in the interest of the unity of Muslims in the country.

He said he wanted the talks to materialise because he feared that if the matter was allowed to drag on, it would create disunity among the Muslims.

He declared: “We will not impose any conditions and we accept whatever terms set by PAS. As far as I’m concerned, we have to be open.”

The Umno deputy president urged PAS spiritual leader Datuk Nik Abdul Aziz Nik Mat to forget about the conflicts between PAS and Umno in the ‘70s, when both parties cooperated to form the Kelantan state government and the national government.

“As Muslims we are encouraged to forgive. That was in the past,” he said.

He even expressed the hope that the meeting between Umno and PAS could take place “in the next few days, anytime, no problem.”

This is a fantastically speedy turnaround for Muhyiddin who had been adopting a very critical and even sceptical stance to the Umno-Pas unity government proposal.

From his first public stance in Sri Kembangan on June 9 wanting Pas to explain what it meant by a unity government; to the critical position in Langkawi on June 13 questioning the seriousness of Pas in proposing Umno-Pas unity government as “Until today, there is nothing concrete” and predicting that the proposal would not become a reality because of “differences within Pas itself and the other Opposition parties”, Muhyiddin has transformed himself to become the foremost champion for Umno-Pas unity government talks, abandoning all his earlier reservations and pre-conditions to propose the holding of immediate Umno-Pas unity government talks “in the next few days, anytime, no problem” on “whatever terms set by PAS”.

Pressing for such a Umno-Pas unity government meeting in the next few days, Muhyiddin said

that initially the meeting should be between PAS and Umno only before the matter was discussed in a comprehensive manner with component parties of Barisan Nasional (BN) and the opposition alliance.

Many questions come to the surface. Is Muhyiddin speaking for the Prime Minister and Umno President Datuk Seri Najib Razak, and if so, why such a desperate hurry and even unholy haste?

Did Najib and Muhyiddin get the approval of the leaders of the other Barisan Nasional component parties, in particular MCA President, Datuk Seri Ong Tee Keat, Gerakan President Tan Sri Dr. Koh Tsu Koon, MIC President, Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu that Umno to conduct such “Umno-Pas unity government talks” or is there just no necessity for such prior consultation as MCA, Gerakan, MIC and the other Barisan Nasional component parties are just pawns, digits and ciphers which just do not matter or count in the Barisan Nasional scheme of things?

Thinking Malaysians must be asking however how Umno’s support for “Umno-Pas” unity government talks reconcile with what Najib claims to be the underlying philosophy of his premiership –“1Malaysia” concept.

Surely, Najib does not expect Malaysians to take his talk on “1Malaysia” seriously when the first fruit of the Najib premiership is “Umno-Pas unity government talks”!

It would appear that it is none other than Muhyiddin who is making the strongest repudiation of the “1Malaysia” concept!

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  1. #1 by pulau_sibu on Friday, 19 June 2009 - 3:52 pm

    Don’t worry. I think UMNO will also initiate the unity government talk with Singapore soon. With UMNO, everything seems possible.

    Those component parties (MCA, Gerakan, SUPP..) that were against PAS, what you say now?

  2. #2 by TomThumb on Friday, 19 June 2009 - 4:20 pm

    obviously the guy had a change of heart. experienced an epiphany the night before during which god told him to end the division and unite. unite the muslims against infidels.

    the battle for the hearts and minds of the people has now been turned into a crusade led by lim kit siang as king arthur. just who is lady guinevere??

  3. #3 by TomThumb on Friday, 19 June 2009 - 4:24 pm

    can you trust anwar to play sir lancelot, the trusted aide of king arthur?

  4. #4 by ALLAN THAM on Friday, 19 June 2009 - 4:25 pm

    It does not matter who start the so call unity talk or rather more appropriate should be call Malay Unity talk, but UMNO has capitalize this issue to break the Pakatan bond.
    First only PAS was invited by UMNO to have a talk to unite? What to unite? If only Pas is invited surely people perception is they come together to talk about Malay. But when Najib start with his PM days with the 1 Malaysian talk, why they are so keen to start with this unity talk. If there is any unity talk is should be between all parties from BN and all parties from PR.
    This Nasah guy has been caught and being play out by UMNO and they see this clear opportunity to break the unity among the PR parties, this is the real interest why UMNO was suddenly so keen to hold unity talk with PAS.
    PAS has to be very mindful why non Malay has given them the full support in the last GE! People wish and want a change in the political scene where UMNO has dominated for so long and Corruption has become the same as what UMNO mean now. If PAS want to associate with UMNO, PAS will not have the future in the next GE. Simply people has totally lost the confidence of UMNO politic and they are depending on life support from those who has interest with them and those simple folks whom they can still manipulate. With the new young voters coming into more aware the old tactic politic by UMNO will not survive. So IF PAS wish to continue with this courtship they will finish and this is Tok Guru Nik Aziz can see it with his wisdom. This is why he was so upset with his deputy continue falling into UMNO trap.This was why he call for Nasha to resign. To Tok Guru Nasah is just a young kid and he has been play like a toy by UMNO.
    PAS must act decisively and simply tell UMNO off. Finish no more courtship. But UMNO will not let go so easy and they will try very hard to continue with this issue until damage is done on PAS relationship with PR.

  5. #5 by limkamput on Friday, 19 June 2009 - 4:54 pm

    //that initially the meeting should be between PAS and Umno only before the matter was discussed in a comprehensive manner with component parties of Barisan Nasional (BN) and the opposition alliance.//

    Hmmm, first among equal again! Surely it will be a special agreement within an agreement.

    Just don’t blame UMNO alone. It is its survival; after all MCA, Gerakan and MIC are almost useless to them now.

    Sdr Lim, why do you bother with what UMNO leaders said? The main concern is PAS, your partner. You have a partner who thinks, behaves and acts chauvinistically (and perhaps materialistically) just like UMNO.

  6. #6 by Tonberry on Friday, 19 June 2009 - 4:55 pm

    Did Najib and Muhyiddin get the approval of the leaders of the other Barisan Nasional component parties, in particular MCA..

    I dont think the master, especially a racist one, needs to be accountable and get approval from his slaves; [deleted]

  7. #7 by k1980 on Friday, 19 June 2009 - 5:14 pm

    Napoleon has his Waterloo, Hitler has his Stalingrad, Anwar has his Saiful and pas has its Nasharudin

  8. #8 by rabbit on Friday, 19 June 2009 - 5:28 pm

    Tonberry, any idea where are Uwno keep their things? hahaha in china they hang at kitchen or bed room. said can keep away black magic. haha by the way.. Muhyiddin, i dont think he bring out everyday. cos he keep in peti sejuk to keep segar!
    well, what this fat guy said is nonesense, did Pas agree for meet up yet? 1 hand clap no sound lah. LGE n AI wont allow this happen. PKR is our hopes…

  9. #9 by TomThumb on Friday, 19 June 2009 - 5:32 pm

    “PAS has to be very mindful why non Malay has given them the full support in the last election …” allan tham

    pas is being consistent in its approach, contrary to popular belief.

    pas hitches a ride from political rivals like dap etc to get to where they want to go despite their differences. having demonstrated to umno how useful they are as partners, it is now time to hitch a ride from the incumbent party. pas leaders are not country bumpkins unskilled at what they do. they are blessed with good negotiating skills. it is a mistake for those who underestimate them.

    even nincompoops can see that.

  10. #10 by ktteokt on Friday, 19 June 2009 - 5:36 pm

    In fact, I would say that the Opposition is redundant. As far as UMNO is concerned, it has enough OPPOSITION from within already. So what is the big idea of putting up the stupid UMNO (UNITED MALAYS NATIONAL ORGANIZATION) signboard above PWTC?

  11. #11 by limkamput on Friday, 19 June 2009 - 5:41 pm

    Eureka, even a dumb can see the strategy of PAS.

  12. #12 by TomThumb on Friday, 19 June 2009 - 5:41 pm

    if you say it is a stupid idea then they must be doing something right.

  13. #13 by newchief on Friday, 19 June 2009 - 5:53 pm

    i’m very sure you politicians of all politicians can see through the tactic by bn goons of unity talks is TO SPILT THE VOTERS ESPECIALLY THE PAS SUPPORTERS!!!

    if a anti-bn voter feels that pas will eventually goes to bn, he might as well not vote meaning if more voters like hik think like that, no one will vote for pas or the numbers will decrease thus making bn goons win the election.

    very cunning of bn but SO AM I…..

  14. #14 by ReformMalaysia on Friday, 19 June 2009 - 5:56 pm

    “”Deputy Prime Minister and Umno Deputy President, Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin is the latest political leader to perform the somersault – taking a diametrically opposite position from the one he had postured only a few days or even a few hours ago!”"”

    Perhaps Muhyiddin Yassin should offer to surrender his “deputy Prime Minister post” to PAS’s president -Hadi Awang to form the so-called ‘UNITY GOVERNMENT’ ? !

  15. #15 by rabbit on Friday, 19 June 2009 - 6:15 pm

    FINALy.. MCA deputy Dr C had made the staement. he can talk to PAS lol….

  16. #16 by Onlooker Politics on Friday, 19 June 2009 - 6:19 pm

    “Did Najib and Muhyiddin get the approval of the leaders of the other Barisan Nasional component parties, in particular MCA President, Datuk Seri Ong Tee Keat, Gerakan President Tan Sri Dr. Koh Tsu Koon, MIC President, Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu that Umno to conduct such “Umno-Pas unity government talks” or is there just no necessity for such prior consultation as MCA, Gerakan, MIC and the other Barisan Nasional component parties are just pawns, digits and ciphers which just do not matter or count in the Barisan Nasional scheme of things?” (Lim Kit Siang)

    YB Lim,
    You must be kidding! When have you ever found that Umno leaders as the Big Brother to all other component parties such as MCA, Gerakan, MIC of Barisan Nasional have to waste their precious time in seeking for prior consultation from other smaller brothers or sisters of BN?

    Perhaps Muhyiddin Yassin has already been enlightened by Najib out of a sudden about the true meaning of the 1Malaysia Concept. 1Malaysia may simply mean “One Malaysia Nation being ruled by the Malays in the joint-effort of Umno and PAS as the mainstream political power, leaving all other minority races behind as simply the peripheral political decorators which serve the purpose of window-dressing Barisan Nasional as a coalition of pseudo-multi-ethnics, pseudo-religious-tolerance, and pseudo-magnanimity!” Umno is just trying to turn the political atmosphere of Malaysia which currently suffers from big financial stresses into the stretching end of the continuum of racist extremism, by inviting PAS on board for a free hitch-hike ride!

    Are PAS leaders smart enough to resist the sweet-talk enticement of Najib and Muhyiddin? Only time itself can provide us a good answer to this question!

  17. #17 by rabbit on Friday, 19 June 2009 - 6:31 pm

    MCA deputy had voice up, wait for gerakan n MIA. wondering… what this 2 slave will talk about or remain silent? PAS.. is time for you to fan the fire… brovo!!

  18. #18 by monsterball on Friday, 19 June 2009 - 6:55 pm

    If ever Muhyiddin be a PM…Malaysia is finished.
    That downright low IQ racialist is tying hard to focus on race and religion out-dated politics.. ..so dumb…you can ignore whatever he is saying now.. or in the future.
    Recollect Dollah said UMNO do not play race and religion politics at all.
    Now he can eat his words.
    UMNO no race politics is not UMNO.
    Just listen to Najib and Muhyiddin speeches and you cannot help laughing…how the contradict each other.
    Dare Najib scold Muhyiddin…like PAS Nik did to one?

  19. #19 by katdog on Friday, 19 June 2009 - 7:01 pm

    Nik Aziz has already stated in no uncertain terms that he will not agree to any unity talks with UMNO.

    Hadi cannot claim to represent all of PAS and that PAS wants to have unity talks with UMNO. It is only him and his supporters that want unity talks.

    I pity the position that Nik Aziz is right now. Nik Aziz knows that unity with UMNO will surely split PAS and even destroy PAS. Not only will PAS loose the trust of non-Malays but also the respect of many Malays who despise UMNO’s corrupt ways. Nik Aziz is desperately trying to save his party.

    Unfortunately, i believe that it would be best for all if the opportunists in PAS leave and join UMNO. Let them go. Better these … reveal themselves now rather than wait for the next GE.

  20. #20 by TomThumb on Friday, 19 June 2009 - 7:32 pm

    they can form a new party, leave Pakatan and join BN. what is there to stop them? whether the base of the party will follow them is another matter.

  21. #21 by a2a on Friday, 19 June 2009 - 7:35 pm

    If PAS joint UMNO sure will be mati.

    That day read the news that a YB from Primie Minister saying that Malaysia is a MUSLIM state which is totally a lie.

    It is stated very clearly in before Malaya Indepedent the Malaya Federation Constitution Proposal written and stated very clearly MALAYA will be secular STATE.

    Even the late first prime minister Tunku Rahman saying it very clearly to the newspapers and public.

    The UMNO think the MALAYSIAN a bunch of stupid human being meh.

    Why keep on tell us Malaysia lie that Malaysia is not a secular state.

    UMNO people are crooks and liars with no shame.

    SURE, PAS join UMNO(crooks, liars) will be end of the road.

  22. #22 by TomThumb on Friday, 19 June 2009 - 7:41 pm

    “It is stated very clearly in before Malaya Indepedent the Malaya Federation Constitution Proposal written and stated very clearly MALAYA will be secular STATE.”

    which page, which article??

  23. #23 by limkamput on Friday, 19 June 2009 - 7:54 pm

    which page, which article?? tom dumb

    If you can finish reading the whole consitution, then you will get the idea. The problem is, can you read?

  24. #24 by limkamput on Friday, 19 June 2009 - 7:56 pm

    I mean the original constitution , not the one after you were born.

  25. #25 by Onlooker Politics on Friday, 19 June 2009 - 7:59 pm

    “Unfortunately, i believe that it would be best for all if the opportunists in PAS leave and join UMNO. Let them go. Better these rats reveal themselves now rather than wait for the next GE.” (katdog)

    katdog is absolutely right by the above statement. Why should Nik Aziz keep the opportunists in PAS and allow these opportunists to lure PAS members with Najib’s goodies and candies into doing some immoralities in PAS? It had better for Nik Aziz to cut off the rotten arm now before it was too late to see that all the cancerous cells had been spred via the infected arm to other healthy parts of the body until the whole body was found to have chronic cancerous cells! Better for PAS to act fast than no action at all!

  26. #26 by limkamput on Friday, 19 June 2009 - 8:07 pm

    Now the porno king wants MCA-DAP “engagement” for the sake of rakyat. See how despicable they are.

    It is more for the sake of saving their own skin. Goodness me, they are really desparate.

  27. #27 by Onlooker Politics on Friday, 19 June 2009 - 8:11 pm

    “He (Muhyiddin) said he wanted the talks to materialise because he feared that if the matter was allowed to drag on, it would create disunity among the Muslims.” (Lim Kit Siang)

    Unity of Muslims in this country is not a good and justifiable rationale for Muhyiddin to use as a persuasion to approach PAS members for a marriage! God never said that all believers of Him should unite in order to build another Tower of Babel for purpose of challenging God for a second time in human history! God only said that all His believers should obey Him and should shun evil. No one good follower of God should allow himself to compromise and team up with the evil-doers, such as those scams in Umno!

  28. #28 by Joshua on Friday, 19 June 2009 - 8:58 pm

    ReformMalaysia Says:
    “Perhaps Muhyiddin Yassin should offer to surrender his “deputy Prime Minister post” to PAS’s president -Hadi Awang to form the so-called ‘UNITY GOVERNMENT’ ? !”

    Would this happen without problems ?
    This unity call may serve Najib’s purpose to sideline himself from his no. 2 after using him to dispose of AB.

    pw: HP. stretch

  29. #29 by Onlooker Politics on Friday, 19 June 2009 - 9:09 pm

    Muhyiddin Yassin used to be the Menteri Besar of Johore for many years and he should pay much more attention to the traffic congestion problems of Singapore-Johore Causeway. He should not waste time on talking about the Muslim Unity, because unity of the same mankind was never the will of God, as shown in the ancient history which mentioned that the act of God had destroyed the symbol of human unity, i.e. the Tower of Babel.

    Muhyiddin as a Johorean should be brave enough to point out Najib’s mistake in making a hasty decision to develop a Third Link with Singapore at Pengerang, a place which is too far away from the Johor Bahru City Centre or Kota Tinggi Town Centre and is too remote for majority of Johoreans to enjoy the benefit of a cross-national bridge!

    His Royal Highness the Sultan of Johore and Tengku Mahkota of Johore will not simply accede to Najib’s unjustifiable Third Link Proposal at Changi-Pengerang. Perhaps Muhyiddin should advise Najib to renegotiate again with Singapore PM Lee Hsien Loong for selecting a new Third Link location that will link up Danga Bay of Johore and Kranji Road (or Lim Chu Kang) of Singapore, for the nearer location to Johor Bahru City Centre will tend to maximise the utility of the new Third Link and benefit a much larger number of Johorean population and Singaporean population as well.

    Since the Third Link is a much more important issue than unity talk between Umno and PAS, Muhyiddin should focus his attention on studying the feasibility of this Third Link project and should not challenge God by not following the will of God which requires pluralism in politics so that no one will have too much power to despise God.

  30. #30 by Taxidriver on Friday, 19 June 2009 - 9:13 pm

    Muhyiddin on UMNO-PAS unity government talks ………..” We will not impose any conditions and we accept whatever terms set by PAS ”

    A matter as complex as the UMNO-PAS coalition government will require a lot goodwill from both sides. Muhyiddin has shown himself to be a visionary leader by acknowledging this fact and hence, his preparedness to make sacrifices by ‘taking TWO steps backward to allow PAS to move THREE steps forward’

    This dance steps created by Muhyiddin will bring more problems for UMNO than helping to solve the many existing problems within the party. PAS will ask to have some ministerial posts including the DPM’s. Is Muhyiddin magnanimous enough to make way? Najib will have to reshuffle his cabinet for PAS sake and this , of course means that many current BN ministers will be replaced. Who then will go? Can we envisage the in-fighting with one more warlord to making it ‘The Four Kingdoms’?

    PAS-Umno union will diminish the chance of Mukhriz Mahathir of becoming the PM in future, which is his old man’s dream. Very soon the old man will jump and bellow at the idea.

    All said, PAS-UMNO marriage will benefit PR in the long term?????

  31. #31 by Onlooker Politics on Friday, 19 June 2009 - 9:34 pm

    Perhaps Muhyiddin has out-of-a-sudden been enlightened by his think-tanks in order for him to offer his DPM seat as a strategy to please PAS leaders. His willingness to sacrifice the post of DPM for the sake of so-called Muslim Unity will later on help Muhyiddin to win the majority support in Umno and Barisan Nasional. Then the time will soon be matured for Muhyiddin to abruptly overthrow Najib and to safely take over Najib as the Umno President and as the new Prime Minister of Malaysia!

    It is logical for Muhyiddin to want to see a unity government to be formed between PAS and Umno in Perak as quickly as possible, so that the success in forming a unity government will help to create a good track record for Muhyiddin in terms of his good negotiation skill, which can then help to build up the political legitimacy for Muhyiddin to launch a coup upon Najib during the next Umno annual general meeting, which is expected to be held in October 2009.

    Bravo, Muhyiddin, the one who overthrew Abdullah Ahmad Badawi and also the one who is going to overthrow Najib very soon!

  32. #32 by yhsiew on Friday, 19 June 2009 - 9:41 pm

    Did Najib and Muhyiddin get the approval of the leaders of the other Barisan Nasional component parties, in particular MCA President, Datuk Seri Ong Tee Keat, Gerakan President Tan Sri Dr. Koh Tsu Koon, MIC President, Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu that Umno to conduct such “Umno-Pas unity government talks” – Kit
    ====================================================

    MCA, Gerakan and MIC have no choice if UMNO goes ahead to conduct such “Umno-Pas unity government talks”, since UMNO – being the Big Brother of the coalition – has absolute right to do whatever it pleases irrespective whether the younger siblings (MCA, Gerakan and MIC) like it or not.

  33. #33 by Onlooker Politics on Friday, 19 June 2009 - 10:10 pm

    If Muhyiddin is really keen to make the dream of PAS-Umno unity government in Perak come true, then he is required to seek royal patronage of the Sultan of Perak first.

    The Court of Appeal has already ruled in the case of Nizar vs Zambry that the Sultan has the discretionary power to decide on who and who His Royal Highness wants to be the members of the State Executive Council. The ultimate power of forming a unity government is not vested in the hand of the Prime Minister or the Deputy Prime Minister. This is the consequence of a court judgement, which has given the Sultan much more power to appoint and to dismiss than the Prime Minister. Therefore, Muhyiddin has better sought the royal consent first about the possibility of forming a unity government, lest he may be embarrased if the Sultan is to reject his unity government proposal later.

    Obviously, after the case of Nizar vs Zambry, a great mess in the Government Power Structure has already been created by the judgement of the Court of Appeal in relation to the limit of the Sultan’s power!

  34. #34 by rabbit on Friday, 19 June 2009 - 10:10 pm

    Joshua: do you think this fatty can let off his deputy PM!!! dont be silly, he bite the chair since pak la step down. even at night he is hugging his kris sleep. Nik … i’, feel very sorry to your student. you should buy some cane from night market to teach the naughty students. MCA deputypls dont be copycat, stay away, the are talking about muslim, you are not.

  35. #35 by tanjong8 on Friday, 19 June 2009 - 10:18 pm

    It is obvious that Umno is now desperate so much so that even Muyudin does not know his own stand !!!

    They are just trying to cash on the disunity in Pas over the issue in which its deputy president Nasarudin is now in hot soup.

    Regarding other component parties in BN, as has been shown by Umnoputra leaders, you can forget about them. Just give them some positions, you can get them to do what you want !!! My god, unbelievable, inconceivable but it is true . Cheese.

  36. #36 by Onlooker Politics on Friday, 19 June 2009 - 10:20 pm

    The Prime Minister has not much power nowadays because the Prime Minister will not be able to decide on a smalle matter such as the location for building a bridge if he does not seek the royal consent from the Sultan first.

    Muhyiddin as a Johorean should be brave enough to point out Najib’s mistake in making a hasty decision to develop a Third Link with Singapore at Pengerang, a place which is too far away from the Johor Bahru City Centre or Kota Tinggi Town Centre and is too remote for majority of Johoreans to enjoy the benefit of a cross-national bridge!

    His Royal Highness the Sultan of Johore and Tengku Mahkota of Johore will not simply accede to Najib’s unjustifiable Third Link Proposal at Changi-Pengerang. Perhaps Muhyiddin should advise Najib to renegotiate again with Singapore PM Lee Hsien Loong for selecting a new Third Link location that will link up Danga Bay of Johore and Kranji Road (or Lim Chu Kang) of Singapore, for the nearer location to Johor Bahru City Centre will tend to maximise the utility of the new Third Link and benefit a much larger number of Johorean population and Singaporean population as well.

    Since the Third Link is a much more important issue than unity talk between Umno and PAS, Muhyiddin should focus his attention on studying the feasibility of this Third Link project and should not bother too much about forming a PAS-Umno unity government. After all, the Sultan of Perak, rather than Najib, will have the final say on who and who His Royal Highness wants to sit in the State EXCO as the Executive Councilors. Najib is just a lame duck Prime Minister who has no say in the unity government!

  37. #37 by frankyapp on Friday, 19 June 2009 - 11:24 pm

    PAS is an islamic political organisation or party.Similarly why not christians too form a political organisation in the country to protect its interest just like PAS or Umno.And following the DPM’s calling for all muslims to unite,I think the christians too have the same right to call for all christians to unite.Please think about it,dear christians brothers and sisters .

  38. #38 by TomThumb on Friday, 19 June 2009 - 11:32 pm

    in making overtures to a key component of Pakatan, it not only hopes to retain control of the federal government and regain control of states they lost, but if that materializes it would be the end of Pakatan.

    a brilliant move by UMNO, wouldn’t you say? that is why there has been so much condemnation so much name calling. it is obvious for a long time that PAS is Pakatan’s Achilles heel.

  39. #39 by W KOK on Friday, 19 June 2009 - 11:36 pm

    I remember last year, UMNO was criticised by other BN component parties for not discussing change of PM plan with them. After the complain, Abdullah Badawi decided to hold a BN council meeting to discuss the PM transition plan.

    But now, under Najib, no BN component parties dare to even make a sound or complain on the unity plan between PAS n UMNO.

  40. #40 by OrangRojak on Friday, 19 June 2009 - 11:41 pm

    frankyapp Says: why not christians
    Well, that’s you and Lee Wang Yen, maybe Onlooker Politics – he’s been putting his dog collar on to post recently. I wonder who’s going to play the part of DAP’s Tok Guru and tell you to ‘sling your hook’ before you cause any chaos?! You really think a Christian Democrat party in Malaysia would be a good idea right now? You would have to have ceramahs in churches, out of the public eye, in case a Muslim saw you and reported you for evangelism!

    The best reason of all is in your comment: to protect its interest. Malaysian voters are turning away from self-interest parties because they are self-interested. You can’t credibly claim to have the rakyat’s best interests at heart if you’re overtly campaigning for your friends only. It doesn’t matter whether its race or religion – self-preservation societies are on the wane in Malaysia and it’s a very good thing too.

    I would hope your dear christian brothers and sisters would think about it and realise that if they want future political success, they really ought to stick to political platforms that affect all voters and not the divisive communal politics of the past.

  41. #41 by TomThumb on Friday, 19 June 2009 - 11:44 pm

    ” … following the DPM’s calling for all muslims to unite,I think the christians too have the same right to call for all christians to unite.Please think about it,dear christians brothers and sisters.” frankyapp

    of course you can. it is your right to form a political party and fight for the legitimate rights of non-malays. it’s all there spelt out in the country’s constitution.

    indians can form one party. don’t know how they could unite under one since indians are hindus, christians etc. chinese can form another. don’t know how that would unite since chinese are buddhists, christians etc. the malays?? the malays are 100% muslims. do the maths. nincompoop would tell you that if voting is along racial and religious lines, the malays would come out on top – always.

    don’t need to hold elections. elections cost money to run. with the money saved, pas can build more mosques. brilliant idea.

  42. #42 by imranj78 on Saturday, 20 June 2009 - 12:09 am

    This issue of `unity’ talk has been blown out of proportion by everyone! While UMNO is jumping into the bandwagon, we should first remember that it is PAS who have been actively bringing this matter up and not the other way around. I don’t believe this is wrong as it is their right, or anyone’s right to talk to anyone they want. That is the essence of democracy and Nik Aziz of all people should know this. To be honest, I am disappointed with Nik Aziz as he is letting his emotions get the better of him.

    In Islam, unity among the Muslim ummah is something that is expected and this is what I believe the unity talk is all about. The unity talk proposal is not about forming a political entity nor is it about UMNO abandoning its BN partners. Unity talk here is about bringing the biggest two parties together to discuss about matters affecting the ummah as espoused by Islam and does not mean it is sidelining the non-Muslims. Is this wrong? Definitely not as it is within their right to do so!

  43. #43 by OrangRojak on Saturday, 20 June 2009 - 12:31 am

    imranj78 Says: Is this wrong?
    Irrelevant! The question of right or wrong has been dealt with under the heading ‘kataks – see Anwar’. I think the final answer is “depends on whether the reader benefits or suffers from it”. What might be chafing people’s most sensitive parts is that they voted for PAS in large numbers on the understanding that they were voting for Pakatan Rakyat, or at very least voting against UMNO/BN.

    The Constitution defends the Right to Freedom of Association (with obvious exceptions), so you’re perfectly right to say “it is within their right to do so!”. The problem is that people’s expectations vary as to how Free their fellows are to Associate, from time to time and place to place. We’ve had the example of our spouses offered before where they are Constitutionally Free to Associate, but there are few among us who would willingly accept our spouses exercising their Right and really Freely Associating. I think there’s some natural expectation that a person or party you vote for would keep to its pre-election promises, even if they are tacit ones. Yes, they’re Right to explore their political sexuality, and yes we think it’s wrong. Are we wrong?

  44. #44 by Mist on Saturday, 20 June 2009 - 12:34 am

    Umno politicians are no fool and they had observed how the PR and PAS was tearing itself apart due to this controversy. What is really interesting is the reason of ummah for holding the talk. Now no one can question the talk as this would be questioning muslims doing their thing. So the unity government has now morphed into a more benign form or is it ?

    The need to provide such euphemism and using islam for political gain is really dirty politics. Nothing is sacred to these wielders of powers.

  45. #45 by a2a on Saturday, 20 June 2009 - 12:34 am

    Either the PAS members unity talk leave the party.

    Or the non-malay voters should not vote these both parties any coming election.

    They both parties want unity talk mean they plan to alien you non-Malay Malaysian as a second class citizen, the unity is about alien other races into second class citizens, not about united all Malaysian as one.

    Either they die or you die as a second class. Which side you take?

  46. #46 by Godfather on Saturday, 20 June 2009 - 12:43 am

    UMNO now shows what it means by “1Malaysia”. Unfortunately the leaders of MCA, Gerakan and MIC are so subordinated that they dared not ask their big boss UMNO to explain why “1Malaysia” has become “1Malay”.

  47. #47 by ablastine on Saturday, 20 June 2009 - 12:45 am

    This unity talk idea is great. PAS unity talk with UMNO. DAP unity talk with MCA and Gerakan. MIC unity talk with Hindraf. In the end have the final unity talk amongst all this united groups and we all become united.

  48. #48 by Taxidriver on Saturday, 20 June 2009 - 12:53 am

    OrangRojak says ( yesterday at 23:41.01 )

    Agreed 100% UMNO is using race and religion to divide the people for their own selfish gain. Let us not do what they do, otherwise we become racists ourselves.

  49. #49 by Loh on Saturday, 20 June 2009 - 1:02 am

    UMNO and PAS should be united based on the teaching of Islam so either UMNO is gone for going against the teaching of Islam, or PAS is gone for being corrupted like UMNO, and is no longer a religious party. What is left in PAS will have no where to go except joining PKR, and help boost the quality of PKR candidates. The PKR kataks of Perak would not happen again come GE 13.

    MCA and MIC remains as junior BN window-dressers, whether PAS joins as UMNO or a second-most senior BN party. The few ministers are quite happy retaining their position. They will be quite sure of getting elected in Malay majority areas, and that counts for them.

    The urban Malays know who to vote in the next election. If PAS remains in GE13, they will still be supported by non-Malays. If PAS becomes part of PKR, it will still receive Malays’ support.

    DAP will still have to depend on non-Malays to get into parliament. The only way to change the federal government would be to gain support from the east Malaysian states. Have the non-Malays bumis there come to the realisation that they are still a class behind Peninsular bumis? If they had, then they should know that UMNO could not be trusted.

    If Malays want to stay united, they have every right to do so. But to be a bigger bully based on united Malays’ strength would not help reform in Malaysia. But then who ever believe that BN leaders care for the wellbeing of the country.

  50. #50 by ringthetill on Saturday, 20 June 2009 - 1:07 am

    MR LIM,

    …..you mean somersaulting like fish out of the water and struggling to survive?. Ha ha ha!

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