“As Jeffrey has rightly pointed out, both factions within the PAS share the same ultimate goal of establishing an Islamic theocracy in Malaysia. The only difference lies in approach – whereas the cleric faction thinks that the best way is through Malay unity, the Erdorgan faction thinks that it is through PR.

PR supporters can only hope that the Erdorgan faction does not change its mind after taking into account those considerations suggested by Jeffrey and myself in an earlir posting.” (Lee Wang Yen)

While Dr. Lee Wang Yen’s assumption that “both factions within the PAS share the same ultimate goal of establishing an Islamic theocracy in Malaysia” may hold true, there is no sign indicating that the Erdorgan faction will change its mind in the near future in order to come up with a compromise with the cleric faction for acceding to the formation of a UMNO-PAS Unity Government.

Not every God-fearing political leader, whether he is from PAS or from MCA, will want to give a serious consideration to the proposal of UMNO-PAS Unity Government. The reasons are as follow:
1) Some God-fearing political leaders from PAS, such as Nik Aziz and Husam Musa, may be forward-looking and they may just want to focus their attention on preaching Islam to the non-Muslims. They will reject the proposal of forming a UMNO-PAS Unity Government if such a proposal is solely based on racism, which will not be justifiable by the Islamic doctrine. They will probably hold the viewpoint that the acceptance of rationale for doing something simply based on racism will eventually make them fail God. This is because racism helps nothing much to bring more non-believers to come to know the beauty of Islam and make them wanting to convert to Islam.

2) If the cleric faction of PAS just wants to form a Unity Government with UMNO due to racism, then some conscientious leaders of MCA may reject the inclusion of PAS as a member in the coalition of Barisan Nasional. If Najib eventually insists on the acceptance of the membership application of PAS into the Barisan Nasional, then a New Barisan Nasional with only 1/2 MCA will appear. The other one half of MCA will most likely be disintegrated and join either PKR or DAP. That MCA’s partial disintegration will finally help Pakatan Rakyat to win much more seats in the 13th General Election.

YB Kit,

This test of confidence among the members of Pakatan Rakyat clearly shows that BN has already launched a plot of hatred seed planting through the massive onslaught attempt by the mainstream media in order to play a double crossing game with PR.

If PR leaders continue to show impatient and intolerance among themselves against one member and another, sooner or later the noble dream and aspiration of Pakatan Rakyat to champion the small men of Malaysia for purpose of overthrowing the BN government and taking over the mandate from BN to form the next Federal Government by the 13th General Election will just be reduced into an impossibility and be turned into a laughing stock of the enemy of PR.

I plea that all PR members do exercise a reasonable degree of self-restraint and self-contain in order to lay path for a cool-off period for everyone in the PR now! A biblical story tells us that King Saul became the King when he had gotten the mandate from God. However, when King Saul defied God by refusing to obey the instruction of God by his carrying out a purposeful annihilation of a people (the Gibeonites) that was supposed to receive protection from God, God later changed His mind. God finally made King Saul’s enemies come back and then King Saul was forced to commit suicide when he had been suffocated by his enemies.

I believe that PR will be given the mandate by God to take over the duty of forming the Federal Government from BN by the 13th General Election. Let’s obey God and not let God be let down by some disobedient people like Hadi Awang.

In Bible, there are dozens of Scriptural instances in which whole families bear the guilt of sins committed by their head. Achan is an example. And let’s not forget Adam!

Take another example, generational sin is usually cited by many as the reasons of the wrath of God, regarding the justification for the death of the sons of King Saul.

A writer, Jaime, found that the consequence of disobedience to God may also be found in the words of the Gibeonites:

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2 Samuel 21:5-6

5 They answered the king, “As for the man who destroyed us and plotted against us so that we have been decimated and have no place anywhere in Israel,

6 let seven of his male descendants be given to us to be killed and exposed before the LORD at Gibeah of Saul—the Lord ‘s chosen one.”
So the king said, “I will give them to you.”

It is great evil to carry out a purposeful annihilation of a people that is supposed to receive protection from God. True, the Gibeonites created a ruse so that they would be spared. But the ruse was because of their fear of Israel, and the God of Israel. They had great fear and faith that God would destroy them, but they could also be spared if they could just have an oath saying just that from God’s chosen nation. It took a lot of humility and wisdom for the Gibeonites to do it, because they could have chosen to be like the other accursed tribes in using the power of its military force to fight Israel.

Such fear of Israel’s God was still in the hearts of their descendants. They honored King Saul as God’s chosen one, though he did them a very great wrong. It was a breaking of a pledge. They humbly knew their limitations as foreigners in Israel (v. 4). They could not put anyone to death, nor could they ask for monetary/material compensation from Saul’s family. Hence, it is not surprising that King David asked what their request was. All they asked was justice be done.

The pain of one’s own bloodline being destroyed to near-extinction by God’s own people cannot be equalled, even more so if there was sincere faith that God would protect that bloodline. Perhaps when we get into how the Gibeonites might have felt as they saw their own loved ones being slaughtered, we can understand that their faith in God and His people being tarnished by the massacre, is one possible reason why God took it a serious offense for King Saul to carry out their annihilation.

The lack of mention of what Saul did to Gibeonite bloodline can very well be a strong warning from God that all is not forgotten by Him, even if many things are not recorded as significant by men. The famine shows that it was King David’s responsibility to do something about the great injustice forgotten by his own people, and that forgetfulness alone does not exempt anyone in Israel from receiving God’s chastisement.

Was it justified that Saul’s sons were killed? Why not just forgive and forget, and let bygones be bygones? The problem I find is this: like the attitude of Achan’s family about his sin, Saul’s own family did not think much of what he did to the Gibeonites as something so heinous. For if any of them did care about what happened, something should have already been done to exalt God’s justice and grace, especially since He did have His laws that provided protection for the foreigners welcomed among the Israelites.

But the massacre was actually forgotten. This uncaring attitude by Saul’s own family towards the Gibeonites stands in stark contrast to the attitude of Joshua and the Israelites towards the same people. Joshua and his brethren actually feared to break an oath to spare them, because they made the oath in God’s name. I think that the integrity of Joshua to honor God’s name in such an important pledge, just further compounded Saul’s sin, and the sin of his own family. For callously destroying what God has graciously spared, Saul and his family must pay. I would say that is the same kind of justice God had inflicted on Babylon and her children, as payment for her arrogance to seek the destruction of Israel.

By Jaime’

The above comment by Jaime has given us a revelation about the will of God. I believe that the will of God reveals to us that God wants to spare and protect Pakatan Rakyat just like God wanted to protect the Gibeonites from going extinction on earth! Anyone who attempts to destroy Pakatan Rakyat will certainly see some kind of justice to be inflicted upon him/her, as payment for his/her arrogance to seek the destruction of Pakatan Rakyat!