Many people are sick of the current situation in our country and a change of government is fundalmental to the survival of our multi racial and religious country in a competitive and globalised world….an all inclusive and tolerant multi racial and religious political party is our best hope.

Pas admission into the BN coalition will change the power equation between Mahathir-Muhyiddin camp and Najib-Hishamuddin camp, with the latter group becoming much,much more stronger. In such scenario, the in-fighting within UMNO will become so fierce that the possibility of a irreconcilable split can occur.

Any decision by Pas leaders to join UMNO/BN will not have the blessings all members of the Party. In that sense, Pas members will break rank, weakening the Party.

Having said all that, I think all these news about ‘unity talk’ is UMNO’s ploy to cause division in PR to weaken it.

But we know in politics what we think impossible can become possible. Again, and given the current political situations the various parties are undergoing, power-sharing is OUT for now. Certainly also NOT in the immediate future.

In conclusion, whichever path PAS takes is going to help PR in the 13th GE. Let us not worry too much. Let us stay united and march on.

kiss your ass goodbye dap

final notice to you limkamput.

do not trivialize this blog nor bash visitors to this blog. show respect for the blog host

Today at 21: 55.13 (12 minutes ago)
Sdr Kit said unity talk never discussed in PR leadership meeting. But he forgot PAS does not need the permission …”

since when has a member of any loose coalition needed to obtain permission to back stab another??

NO matter how corrupted or how inefficient the country has become, it is always that “Malay-Islamic thing” taking precedence over everything else. All these PAS talks about being clean, transparent and fair are baloney.

May be it is time to lose Manek Urai to knock in some senses.

final notice to you limkamput.

do not trivialize this blog nor bash visitors to this blog. show respect for the blog host.

That make you look more stupid.

To be included in your good opinion is, to me, not a prospect to be relished, and as regards arguing with you on any matter invokes immediately the old adage – that one should never argue with a fool. Anyone watching might not be able to tell the difference!

In respect to Godfather’s posting Today at 09: 16.33 (2 hours ago), I had merely mentioned the approach (1) of “lets give the Devil that we don’t know a chance and boot the one that we already know” in contrast to the other approach of (2) “the Devil we know being better than the one that we not know!”

With regard to approach (1), I had intended it to mean PAS or a significant section of it will not relinguish its objective to establish its goal of theocratic state, which it intends to do so via double talk and manipulating itself into position of dominance within Pakatan Rakyat, and that it would be a “triumph of hope over realities or dictates of logic” to expect PAS to forgo this agenda.

Although PAS has “consistently disavowed corruption and cheating”, the quarrel here with PAS is not that it is insincere about being against corruption and cheating – this remains to be tested if it were in the seat of power – but the quarrel is about its sincerity in establishing its theocratic Islamic state in a pluralistic society such as ours (contrary to even the DAP’s platform).

In questioning approach (1), did I say anywhere specifically that we necessarily have (therefore) to embrace approach (2) and tolerate and live with a coalition of “liars, cheats and thieves known as BN” as Godfather puts it? Tell me where did I say so?

To Godfather I would say, get your facts right on what I said or have not said before you proceed to distort them as much as possible in line with your rigid and ossified convictions drawn on black/white axis with no grey in between your ears.

If PAS really merge with umno now, what would be the positions of all PR state govt?

Would YB Nizer and other YBs leave PAS should that happen? Another few by elections?

What would be the position of Sabah and Sarawak should PAS (always rejected in Sabah) and UMNO joins?

Hmmm, apparently we should talk to people we consider no hope of reforming. I guess this is how a loose cannon works.

Oh, may be the loose cannon is thinking Sdr Lim should be talking to UMNO since PAS is talking. I guess we are never tired of political expediency all these years. Hello, PAS can go to Timbuktu for all I care, Malaysia must forever remains a cosmopolitan, secular and liberal society. We talk about going down that slippery road all the time, and definitely conceding to PAS idiosyncrasy is one them. Political expediency has brought GERAKAN into BN. Where is that party today?

I think we just have to be confident of our ideal. DAP stands for non racial, non religious and inclusive Malaysia. Why are we afraid? Only racists, bigots and fascists are against such ideal. If we want a steak we have to wait and persevere, otherwise like loose cannon ball and tom-dumb we go for a cheap burger. We are never short of cheap burger commentators here, the great Sir Jeffrey included.