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	<title>Comments on: Streamyx in Malaysia really sucks</title>
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		<title>By: OrangRojak</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/01/streamyx-in-malaysia-really-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-178219</link>
		<dc:creator>OrangRojak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s good to see hplooi advocating community networking. The problem as ever with anything &#039;community&#039; oriented in Malaysia is overcoming not-for-profit lethargy. The problem with networking is offering anything of value to the network that requires neither breaking any ISP&#039;s T&amp;Cs regarding sharing of service nor inviting a visit from the copyright police.

I wondered if it might be able to motivate communities to install their own networks as part of a &#039;Neighbourhood Watch&#039; initiative, or to provide high quality video calling locally (maybe of more use to kids than to grownups). You can&#039;t charge for use of the network (you would be an ISP), but you could certainly charge for installation and maintenance, I would have thought. You would either have to &#039;wing it&#039; with regards to ISPs&#039; T&amp;Cs like fon.com does, and ask some users to make their broadband connections available to their neighbours, or use expensive non-local ISP&#039;s (satellite) and accept the criticism for slow outside-community traffic.

Long term viability would probably depend on being able to achieve sufficient size to acquire bulk access to a major route. While this remains fenced off by legislation, I&#039;m not convinced the prospect is attractive. It&#039;s a pity - the equipment and software for managing high speed networks, and even participating in them, is cheap and readily available. Is &#039;Neighbourhood Watch&#039;, free video calls, and high-performance gaming enough? You would almost certainly have to say that P2P was banned, or the network would succumb early to selective prosecution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s good to see hplooi advocating community networking. The problem as ever with anything &#8216;community&#8217; oriented in Malaysia is overcoming not-for-profit lethargy. The problem with networking is offering anything of value to the network that requires neither breaking any ISP&#8217;s T&amp;Cs regarding sharing of service nor inviting a visit from the copyright police.</p>
<p>I wondered if it might be able to motivate communities to install their own networks as part of a &#8216;Neighbourhood Watch&#8217; initiative, or to provide high quality video calling locally (maybe of more use to kids than to grownups). You can&#8217;t charge for use of the network (you would be an ISP), but you could certainly charge for installation and maintenance, I would have thought. You would either have to &#8216;wing it&#8217; with regards to ISPs&#8217; T&amp;Cs like fon.com does, and ask some users to make their broadband connections available to their neighbours, or use expensive non-local ISP&#8217;s (satellite) and accept the criticism for slow outside-community traffic.</p>
<p>Long term viability would probably depend on being able to achieve sufficient size to acquire bulk access to a major route. While this remains fenced off by legislation, I&#8217;m not convinced the prospect is attractive. It&#8217;s a pity &#8211; the equipment and software for managing high speed networks, and even participating in them, is cheap and readily available. Is &#8216;Neighbourhood Watch&#8217;, free video calls, and high-performance gaming enough? You would almost certainly have to say that P2P was banned, or the network would succumb early to selective prosecution.</p>
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		<title>By: Ramesh Laxman</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/01/streamyx-in-malaysia-really-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-178172</link>
		<dc:creator>Ramesh Laxman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 11:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ASTRO also sucks. They screen repeats and  porgrammes of any value is on Box Office where viewers have to pay a fee.

DIGI also sucks. A customer on Pre-paid service a three minute call inside Malaysia costs RM2.60 and a call to Singapore for the same duration costs RM0.45.

Basic Broadband sevice also sucks because it is providing the same level of service as Jaring but at higher cost to customers.

Taxi service sucks. The other day I was taken for ride to be only told that the meter was not wrking. Had to pay the demand by driver or face a broken head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ASTRO also sucks. They screen repeats and  porgrammes of any value is on Box Office where viewers have to pay a fee.</p>
<p>DIGI also sucks. A customer on Pre-paid service a three minute call inside Malaysia costs RM2.60 and a call to Singapore for the same duration costs RM0.45.</p>
<p>Basic Broadband sevice also sucks because it is providing the same level of service as Jaring but at higher cost to customers.</p>
<p>Taxi service sucks. The other day I was taken for ride to be only told that the meter was not wrking. Had to pay the demand by driver or face a broken head.</p>
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		<title>By: d8frog</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/01/streamyx-in-malaysia-really-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-178137</link>
		<dc:creator>d8frog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 09:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s clearly stated in the contract, any ISP in this country, &#039;BEST EFFORT&#039;. i guess to them basically, if you&#039;re able to browse the internet, it works and in accordance to the SLA (service level agreement) regardless if it&#039;s takes ages to load up Google.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s clearly stated in the contract, any ISP in this country, &#8216;BEST EFFORT&#8217;. i guess to them basically, if you&#8217;re able to browse the internet, it works and in accordance to the SLA (service level agreement) regardless if it&#8217;s takes ages to load up Google.com</p>
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		<title>By: k1980</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/01/streamyx-in-malaysia-really-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-178111</link>
		<dc:creator>k1980</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 07:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The next time the roof comes down on his thick head, he would be keeping very, very quiet, for he would be off to Paradise to get his 72 houris....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The next time the roof comes down on his thick head, he would be keeping very, very quiet, for he would be off to Paradise to get his 72 houris&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Godfather</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/01/streamyx-in-malaysia-really-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-178107</link>
		<dc:creator>Godfather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 07:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>stupid cintanegara:  we don&#039;t blame the floor, we look at the roof because it could come crashing down anytime....the next time the roof comes down on your thick head, just keep quiet, OK ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stupid cintanegara:  we don&#8217;t blame the floor, we look at the roof because it could come crashing down anytime&#8230;.the next time the roof comes down on your thick head, just keep quiet, OK ?</p>
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		<title>By: The State of Broadband &#124; Colin Charles Agenda</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/01/streamyx-in-malaysia-really-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-178104</link>
		<dc:creator>The State of Broadband &#124; Colin Charles Agenda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 07:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] as we all know, pretty much sucks. Heck, even Members of Parliament know [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] as we all know, pretty much sucks. Heck, even Members of Parliament know [...]</p>
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		<title>By: cintanegara</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/01/streamyx-in-malaysia-really-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-178067</link>
		<dc:creator>cintanegara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 03:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don’t blame the floor if you cannot dance…it’s the state government that is incompetence not the service provider…..Why is the CM mentor making noise?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don’t blame the floor if you cannot dance…it’s the state government that is incompetence not the service provider…..Why is the CM mentor making noise?</p>
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		<title>By: ekompute</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/01/streamyx-in-malaysia-really-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-178054</link>
		<dc:creator>ekompute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 02:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be fair, my Streamyx is doing fine in Johor Bahru. But if Streamyx is politicized, I think it&#039;s time to change the government. Streamyx, after all, is merely a commercial organization and has no benefit in penalizing opposition states. If Streamyx really sucks in those states, they must obviously be under pressure from BN. To me, therefore, Streamyx doesn&#039;t sucks, but BN surely does... and not only that, it stinks like pig&#039;s waste.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair, my Streamyx is doing fine in Johor Bahru. But if Streamyx is politicized, I think it&#8217;s time to change the government. Streamyx, after all, is merely a commercial organization and has no benefit in penalizing opposition states. If Streamyx really sucks in those states, they must obviously be under pressure from BN. To me, therefore, Streamyx doesn&#8217;t sucks, but BN surely does&#8230; and not only that, it stinks like pig&#8217;s waste.</p>
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		<title>By: Caleb</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/01/streamyx-in-malaysia-really-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-178052</link>
		<dc:creator>Caleb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 02:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had to change 1 splitter, 2 cables, 2.5 x package upgrade, 3 PCs, 4 routers, 5 modems and numerous complaints before I can get a better download speed.
For those who complained about the streamyx service, you should ask yourselves, what stage are you in?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had to change 1 splitter, 2 cables, 2.5 x package upgrade, 3 PCs, 4 routers, 5 modems and numerous complaints before I can get a better download speed.<br />
For those who complained about the streamyx service, you should ask yourselves, what stage are you in?</p>
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		<title>By: mumzie</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/01/streamyx-in-malaysia-really-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-178051</link>
		<dc:creator>mumzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 02:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Maxis 3G, worst it break and no service at all, very frequent now since last April. When I call the centre ask me to switch from 3G to GPRS, still the same, lucky you be able to surf but very slow, if unlucky no service at all. I&#039;m paying RM138 per month. Can someone bring this up in Parliment telecommunication company is sucker, they earn bucks from use and we are given such a rotten service!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Maxis 3G, worst it break and no service at all, very frequent now since last April. When I call the centre ask me to switch from 3G to GPRS, still the same, lucky you be able to surf but very slow, if unlucky no service at all. I&#8217;m paying RM138 per month. Can someone bring this up in Parliment telecommunication company is sucker, they earn bucks from use and we are given such a rotten service!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: TomThumb</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/01/streamyx-in-malaysia-really-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-178042</link>
		<dc:creator>TomThumb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 01:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>limkamfart can suck my thumb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>limkamfart can suck my thumb</p>
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		<title>By: cemerlang</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/01/streamyx-in-malaysia-really-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-178035</link>
		<dc:creator>cemerlang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 00:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We boleh. We got. The most important thing is we got and we can show people we got. How it is, who bothers ?! This thing happens all over Malaysia. Cable stolen also can happen. Line cut because of thunder also can happen. Some maintainence work in Subang so far away also can happen. So many excuses lah ! Forever excuses ! Quality, MS ISO, KPI all preachers&#039; talks. May be should change profession and become preachers to talk, talk and talk more. Good idea. Malaysia will be more blessed with more preachers.  God money to make things but no money to maintain things or service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We boleh. We got. The most important thing is we got and we can show people we got. How it is, who bothers ?! This thing happens all over Malaysia. Cable stolen also can happen. Line cut because of thunder also can happen. Some maintainence work in Subang so far away also can happen. So many excuses lah ! Forever excuses ! Quality, MS ISO, KPI all preachers&#8217; talks. May be should change profession and become preachers to talk, talk and talk more. Good idea. Malaysia will be more blessed with more preachers.  God money to make things but no money to maintain things or service.</p>
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		<title>By: mendela</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/01/streamyx-in-malaysia-really-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-178034</link>
		<dc:creator>mendela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 00:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just off track a bit, the other day my wife flew to Japan via a MAS Boeing 777. The plane can carry more than 330 passengers but sadly, only 40 were on board.

With such low passenger capacity, do our ministers, DPM, Mahathiu, etc. really need to fly in Government jets or Petronas Jet?

Can&#039;t such people just do what Singaporean politicians are doing, fly only in their national carrier, SIA?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just off track a bit, the other day my wife flew to Japan via a MAS Boeing 777. The plane can carry more than 330 passengers but sadly, only 40 were on board.</p>
<p>With such low passenger capacity, do our ministers, DPM, Mahathiu, etc. really need to fly in Government jets or Petronas Jet?</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t such people just do what Singaporean politicians are doing, fly only in their national carrier, SIA?</p>
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		<title>By: k1980</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/01/streamyx-in-malaysia-really-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-178031</link>
		<dc:creator>k1980</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 23:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before you complain, you need to understand the perverted mindset of the powers-that-be. They used millions of taxpayers&#039; money to buy a ticket for a seat in a Russian rocket, and then they had the nerve to proclaim that Malaysia has successfully sent an ASTRONAUT(!) to space. It&#039;s all about fooling the kampung folks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before you complain, you need to understand the perverted mindset of the powers-that-be. They used millions of taxpayers&#8217; money to buy a ticket for a seat in a Russian rocket, and then they had the nerve to proclaim that Malaysia has successfully sent an ASTRONAUT(!) to space. It&#8217;s all about fooling the kampung folks.</p>
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		<title>By: mohrafael</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/01/streamyx-in-malaysia-really-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-178028</link>
		<dc:creator>mohrafael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 20:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah...i agree, damned bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah&#8230;i agree, damned bad.</p>
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		<title>By: hplooi</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/01/streamyx-in-malaysia-really-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-178021</link>
		<dc:creator>hplooi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 16:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there any way, the opposion-backed states promote community-run Internet?
http://www.freepress.net/communityinternet/
If a political or legal backdoor can be found around the tyranny of streamyx and main-stream telcos&#039; monopoly of Internet (via the multimedia act and courtesy of the federal govt), I believe we will see an explosion of fast last-mile Internet access. 
I for one will actively champion this for P.J.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there any way, the opposion-backed states promote community-run Internet?<br />
<a href="http://www.freepress.net/communityinternet/" rel="nofollow">http://www.freepress.net/communityinternet/</a><br />
If a political or legal backdoor can be found around the tyranny of streamyx and main-stream telcos&#8217; monopoly of Internet (via the multimedia act and courtesy of the federal govt), I believe we will see an explosion of fast last-mile Internet access.<br />
I for one will actively champion this for P.J.</p>
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		<title>By: citigold78</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/01/streamyx-in-malaysia-really-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-178015</link>
		<dc:creator>citigold78</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 15:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>US based telcos ain&#039;t that fast...
http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/26/engadget-labs-the-best-mobile-broadband-carrier-in-america/

    *  AT&amp;T: 239.01KBps down; 77.95KBps up
    * Sprint: 121.27KBps down; 36.94 KBps up
    * T-Mobile: 127.33KBps down; 54.05KBps up
    * Verizon: 102.9KBps down; 63.22KBps up</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>US based telcos ain&#8217;t that fast&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/26/engadget-labs-the-best-mobile-broadband-carrier-in-america/" rel="nofollow">http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/26/engadget-labs-the-best-mobile-broadband-carrier-in-america/</a></p>
<p>    *  AT&amp;T: 239.01KBps down; 77.95KBps up<br />
    * Sprint: 121.27KBps down; 36.94 KBps up<br />
    * T-Mobile: 127.33KBps down; 54.05KBps up<br />
    * Verizon: 102.9KBps down; 63.22KBps up</p>
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		<title>By: mantaray</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/01/streamyx-in-malaysia-really-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-178011</link>
		<dc:creator>mantaray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 14:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no streamyc broadband. Only narrowband. Or rubber band whatever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no streamyc broadband. Only narrowband. Or rubber band whatever.</p>
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		<title>By: StevePCH</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/01/streamyx-in-malaysia-really-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-178003</link>
		<dc:creator>StevePCH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 14:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just have to agree with all of you guys . it&#039;s so hopeless that I &#039;had&#039; to change the modem router etc ... finally , the guys said all you need to do is off everything , they do a &#039;reset&#039; . etc. Then  ... it&#039;s OK at the dial up speed !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just have to agree with all of you guys . it&#8217;s so hopeless that I &#8216;had&#8217; to change the modem router etc &#8230; finally , the guys said all you need to do is off everything , they do a &#8216;reset&#8217; . etc. Then  &#8230; it&#8217;s OK at the dial up speed !!!</p>
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		<title>By: a2a</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/06/01/streamyx-in-malaysia-really-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-177999</link>
		<dc:creator>a2a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 14:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IT IS BN MOTIVATED TO ACCESS INTERNET SUCK.

THEY ARE TRYING HARD TO SEAL MALAYSIAN BRAIN WITH THEIR CONTROL MEDIAS WITH LIES.

IF POSSIBLE THEY WISH TO GET RID OF INTERNET ACCESS IN MALAYSIA SO MALAYSIAN BRAINS CAN BE SEALED WITH LIES.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IT IS BN MOTIVATED TO ACCESS INTERNET SUCK.</p>
<p>THEY ARE TRYING HARD TO SEAL MALAYSIAN BRAIN WITH THEIR CONTROL MEDIAS WITH LIES.</p>
<p>IF POSSIBLE THEY WISH TO GET RID OF INTERNET ACCESS IN MALAYSIA SO MALAYSIAN BRAINS CAN BE SEALED WITH LIES.</p>
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