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		<title>By: yhsiew</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/05/23/perak-the-epicentre-of-umno-fault-line/comment-page-1/#comment-176580</link>
		<dc:creator>yhsiew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 14:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Najib is building a suicidal time-bomb for BN for the 13th General Election if he fails to initiate actions to dissolve the Perak State Legislative Assembly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Najib is building a suicidal time-bomb for BN for the 13th General Election if he fails to initiate actions to dissolve the Perak State Legislative Assembly.</p>
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		<title>By: alaneth</title>
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		<dc:creator>alaneth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 13:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Augustine Anthony,

I&#039;s a seismologist. If you want to know more about seismic activities, fault-lines, tectonic plate movements and earthquakes, you can contact me.</description>
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<p>I&#8217;s a seismologist. If you want to know more about seismic activities, fault-lines, tectonic plate movements and earthquakes, you can contact me.</p>
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		<title>By: Brats195</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brats195</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 12:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found the court of appeal&#039;s justification for the decision to be flawed and unbelievable!
Using the justification \majority support\ is flawed.  \Majority support\ is a statement and not a MEASURABLE/QUANTIFIABLE data to be used for decision making. \Majority support\ is measured when there is a forum for the assembly man/women to state their support; MEASUREMENT should be documented and agreed by the ALL the assembly men/women.

I&#039;m not a legal expert but a layman with very simple COMMON SENSE. Here is the analogy;

I have a sport society consisting of 21 members trying to elect a treasurer. 2 contenders Mr. Z and Mr. N, 11 members publicly declare their intention to vote for Mr. Z. It does not make their intention, public declaration or perceived alignment to be a MEASUREABLE DATA. The only MEASUREMENT DATA is voting!
How do you know there are only 11 members supporting Mr. Z as treasurer. It could be 20 or 8...who is to judge?????

You need to have a forum and a process to MEASURE the \majority support\.

This is pure common sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found the court of appeal&#8217;s justification for the decision to be flawed and unbelievable!<br />
Using the justification \majority support\ is flawed.  \Majority support\ is a statement and not a MEASURABLE/QUANTIFIABLE data to be used for decision making. \Majority support\ is measured when there is a forum for the assembly man/women to state their support; MEASUREMENT should be documented and agreed by the ALL the assembly men/women.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a legal expert but a layman with very simple COMMON SENSE. Here is the analogy;</p>
<p>I have a sport society consisting of 21 members trying to elect a treasurer. 2 contenders Mr. Z and Mr. N, 11 members publicly declare their intention to vote for Mr. Z. It does not make their intention, public declaration or perceived alignment to be a MEASUREABLE DATA. The only MEASUREMENT DATA is voting!<br />
How do you know there are only 11 members supporting Mr. Z as treasurer. It could be 20 or 8&#8230;who is to judge?????</p>
<p>You need to have a forum and a process to MEASURE the \majority support\.</p>
<p>This is pure common sense.</p>
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		<title>By: ekans</title>
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		<dc:creator>ekans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 10:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;On 23/5/2009 at 12:13.32, Kasim Amat said: 
It is anticipated that the judges of the Court of Appeal would do the job right, and I was right.&lt;/i&gt;

Of course, supporters of UMNO&#039;s BN would anticipate this because with the federal government&#039;s resources at hand, UMNO&#039;s BN has ensured that the court would have the &#039;right&#039; judges, who would give the &#039;right&#039; verdict, and thus, its supporters would be made to think that they had been &#039;right&#039;...

&lt;i&gt;On 23/5/2009 at 12:13.32, Kasim Amat said: 
The justice is now returned to Datuk Zambry and the people of Perak.&lt;/i&gt;

It only appears to be so to the supporters of UMNO&#039;s BN.
But can the Pangkor ADUN ever possibly prove &amp; justify to the people of Perak that UMNO&#039;s BN actually has the people&#039;s mandate to run their state government?

&lt;i&gt;On 23/5/2009 at 12:13.32, Kasim Amat said: 
People in Perak should be proud of the Court’s decision and should respect the judgement.&lt;/i&gt;

UMNO&#039;s BN should have learnt to lower its pride and respect the choice made by the people in Perak during the 12th General Election...

&lt;i&gt;On 23/5/2009 at 12:13.32, Kasim Amat said: 
PR should not resort to public protest or any kind of action to object to the judgement.&lt;/i&gt;

In that case, the Pangkor ADUN should not have objected to the earlier High Court ruling and thereby should not have resorted to a &#039;quickie&#039; appeal on the following day, disrupting the continuity of the Perak state government administration in a matter of hours...

&lt;i&gt;On 23/5/2009 at 12:13.32, Kasim Amat said: 
UMNO will always fight against the injustice and UMNO will never lose.&lt;/i&gt;

Of course, UMNO will always fight against what is perceived to be injustice against its members and supporters, and how could it lose when it has strategically placed its minions all over the nation&#039;s government machinery to do its bidding?

&lt;i&gt;On 23/5/2009 at 12:13.32, Kasim Amat said: 
I urge PR to give up their appeal to the Federal Court so that Perak could revert back to its peaceful moment.&lt;/i&gt;

I urge UMNO&#039;s BN to give up its power-grab of the Perak state government so that the good people of Perak can peacefully make their choice once again through the power of the ballot box...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>On 23/5/2009 at 12:13.32, Kasim Amat said:<br />
It is anticipated that the judges of the Court of Appeal would do the job right, and I was right.</i></p>
<p>Of course, supporters of UMNO&#8217;s BN would anticipate this because with the federal government&#8217;s resources at hand, UMNO&#8217;s BN has ensured that the court would have the &#8216;right&#8217; judges, who would give the &#8216;right&#8217; verdict, and thus, its supporters would be made to think that they had been &#8216;right&#8217;&#8230;</p>
<p><i>On 23/5/2009 at 12:13.32, Kasim Amat said:<br />
The justice is now returned to Datuk Zambry and the people of Perak.</i></p>
<p>It only appears to be so to the supporters of UMNO&#8217;s BN.<br />
But can the Pangkor ADUN ever possibly prove &amp; justify to the people of Perak that UMNO&#8217;s BN actually has the people&#8217;s mandate to run their state government?</p>
<p><i>On 23/5/2009 at 12:13.32, Kasim Amat said:<br />
People in Perak should be proud of the Court’s decision and should respect the judgement.</i></p>
<p>UMNO&#8217;s BN should have learnt to lower its pride and respect the choice made by the people in Perak during the 12th General Election&#8230;</p>
<p><i>On 23/5/2009 at 12:13.32, Kasim Amat said:<br />
PR should not resort to public protest or any kind of action to object to the judgement.</i></p>
<p>In that case, the Pangkor ADUN should not have objected to the earlier High Court ruling and thereby should not have resorted to a &#8216;quickie&#8217; appeal on the following day, disrupting the continuity of the Perak state government administration in a matter of hours&#8230;</p>
<p><i>On 23/5/2009 at 12:13.32, Kasim Amat said:<br />
UMNO will always fight against the injustice and UMNO will never lose.</i></p>
<p>Of course, UMNO will always fight against what is perceived to be injustice against its members and supporters, and how could it lose when it has strategically placed its minions all over the nation&#8217;s government machinery to do its bidding?</p>
<p><i>On 23/5/2009 at 12:13.32, Kasim Amat said:<br />
I urge PR to give up their appeal to the Federal Court so that Perak could revert back to its peaceful moment.</i></p>
<p>I urge UMNO&#8217;s BN to give up its power-grab of the Perak state government so that the good people of Perak can peacefully make their choice once again through the power of the ballot box&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ekans</title>
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		<dc:creator>ekans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 09:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;23/5/2009 at 05:47.10, chengho said: 
Nizar or rather Nga/ngeh must take his role as a responsible opposition for Perak . Do it for rakyat , wait for GE 13 …..but for now move forward for the sake of rakyat and the country…&lt;/i&gt;

The rakyat did not have to wait for GE13.
In GE12, the rakyat had already given their mandate to Nizar, Nga, Ngeh &amp; the other Pakatan Rakyat ADUNs to be responsible for the administration of the Perak state government.
But because UMNO&#039;s BN was not willing to accept this and move forward for the sake of the rakyat and the country, the cunning political maneouvres orchestrated by the Pekan MP had robbed Nizar, Nga, Ngeh &amp; the other Pakatan Rakyat ADUNs of their roles in the state government...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>23/5/2009 at 05:47.10, chengho said:<br />
Nizar or rather Nga/ngeh must take his role as a responsible opposition for Perak . Do it for rakyat , wait for GE 13 …..but for now move forward for the sake of rakyat and the country…</i></p>
<p>The rakyat did not have to wait for GE13.<br />
In GE12, the rakyat had already given their mandate to Nizar, Nga, Ngeh &amp; the other Pakatan Rakyat ADUNs to be responsible for the administration of the Perak state government.<br />
But because UMNO&#8217;s BN was not willing to accept this and move forward for the sake of the rakyat and the country, the cunning political maneouvres orchestrated by the Pekan MP had robbed Nizar, Nga, Ngeh &amp; the other Pakatan Rakyat ADUNs of their roles in the state government&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Loh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 07:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>///NOTES OF DECISION IN ZAMBRY V NIZAR CASE (COA)
These are the notes taken of the Court of Appeal’s Decision in the MB v MB matter delivered orally on 22.5.2009 by Raus Sharif JCA on behalf of the His Lordship, Zainun Ali JCA and Ahmad Maarop JCA. Any mistakes herein are mine. From http://www.loyarburok.com/

Firstly, we would like to thank counsel in assisting us to arrive at our decision. The decision is unanimous and these are our views:
1. The granting or withholding of consent to dissolve the State Assembly is a royal prerogative to be exercised by His Royal Highness (HRH).

2. From the facts of this case, the request made by the Respondent (Nizar) to dissolve the State Assembly was made under Article 16(6) of the Perak Constitution, and not under Article 36(2).

3. Under Article 16(6) of the Perak Constitution, upon the exercise of HRH’s royal prerogative to withhold consent for dissolution, the Respondent shall tender his resignation.

4. There is no mandatory, express requirement that provides for a motion of no-confidence to be passed in the State Assembly against the Respondent before he ceases to command the confidence of the majority.

5. The fact that the Respondent has ceased to command the confidence of the majority may be ascertained through extraneous means. We approve the case of Amir Kahar. The case of Stephen Kalong Ningkan, adopted by the learned Judge (High Court), is distinguishable on its facts.

6. HRH was right to make enquiries to satisfy himself whether the Respondent had ceased to command the confidence of the majority before deciding on the Respondent’s request for dissolution.

7. On the facts of the case, it is clear that the Respondent had ceased to command the confidence of the majority thus HRH, in accordance with Article 16(6), was right to appoint the Appellant (Zambry) as Menteri Besar of Perak after being satisfied that the Appellant commanded the confidence of the majority.

8. The learned Judge (High Court) erred in law when interpreting the Perak Constitution. He failed to properly appreciate the evidence rendering his decision clearly wrong.
The appeal is allowed. The orders of the High Court are set aside.///-- From http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/22284/84/

Re 2. The fact was Nizar, the MB had an audience with the Sultan before there was a decision from the State assembly as to his support in the assembly. Article 16 (6) of the constitution relates to the event of decision by the state assembly. The request was made therefore based on anything but not on Article 16 (2).

Re.5. The suspicion that the MB has lost the confidence of the majority might be perceived after the three kataks had submitted their resignation to the Speaker. It is the speaker who could determine with certainty and legally whether the three kataks were still ADUNs. Had the state Assembly been called, and as the Speaker had the authority to decide whether kataks were still Aduns, and he had expressed that they were no longer so, there could only be 28 BN ADUNs who vote against Nizar who has now 28 ADUNs who support him. So they would be hung assembly. The MB has not lost the majority when he equals his opponent. Under the circumstances, the way to prove legitimacy is to have the assembly dissolved.

RE. 6. HRH had the constitutional authority to do what he was authorised, but under the law it is the Speaker who can determine the status of the ADUN who had on their writing resigned the post. The HRH could have made the enquiry, but he had not obtained the additional authority to decide whether the kataks were still the ADUN, legally. It is because the Sultan could not legally determine the status of the kataks, and that voting in the hall is different from giving opinion that the question of whether the MB had the support of the Assembly ought ot be determine in the right place, the hall of the state assembly.

Re.8. The evidence was that there was no meeting in the Perak State assembly to outvote the MB. All meetings done in the Palace were not relevant so far as to the determination of the support of the MB in the state assembly. That has to be seen to be believed. 

The Court of Appeal tried hard to find excuses to deviate from “The case of Stephen Kalong Ningkan,’ and they claimed that “The case of Stephen Kalong Ningkan, adopted by the learned Judge (High Court), is distinguishable on its facts.  They might have noted also that the Chief Minister of Sarawak was dismissed by the governor, and not a Sultan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>///NOTES OF DECISION IN ZAMBRY V NIZAR CASE (COA)<br />
These are the notes taken of the Court of Appeal’s Decision in the MB v MB matter delivered orally on 22.5.2009 by Raus Sharif JCA on behalf of the His Lordship, Zainun Ali JCA and Ahmad Maarop JCA. Any mistakes herein are mine. From <a href="http://www.loyarburok.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.loyarburok.com/</a></p>
<p>Firstly, we would like to thank counsel in assisting us to arrive at our decision. The decision is unanimous and these are our views:<br />
1. The granting or withholding of consent to dissolve the State Assembly is a royal prerogative to be exercised by His Royal Highness (HRH).</p>
<p>2. From the facts of this case, the request made by the Respondent (Nizar) to dissolve the State Assembly was made under Article 16(6) of the Perak Constitution, and not under Article 36(2).</p>
<p>3. Under Article 16(6) of the Perak Constitution, upon the exercise of HRH’s royal prerogative to withhold consent for dissolution, the Respondent shall tender his resignation.</p>
<p>4. There is no mandatory, express requirement that provides for a motion of no-confidence to be passed in the State Assembly against the Respondent before he ceases to command the confidence of the majority.</p>
<p>5. The fact that the Respondent has ceased to command the confidence of the majority may be ascertained through extraneous means. We approve the case of Amir Kahar. The case of Stephen Kalong Ningkan, adopted by the learned Judge (High Court), is distinguishable on its facts.</p>
<p>6. HRH was right to make enquiries to satisfy himself whether the Respondent had ceased to command the confidence of the majority before deciding on the Respondent’s request for dissolution.</p>
<p>7. On the facts of the case, it is clear that the Respondent had ceased to command the confidence of the majority thus HRH, in accordance with Article 16(6), was right to appoint the Appellant (Zambry) as Menteri Besar of Perak after being satisfied that the Appellant commanded the confidence of the majority.</p>
<p>8. The learned Judge (High Court) erred in law when interpreting the Perak Constitution. He failed to properly appreciate the evidence rendering his decision clearly wrong.<br />
The appeal is allowed. The orders of the High Court are set aside.///&#8211; From <a href="http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/22284/84/" rel="nofollow">http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/22284/84/</a></p>
<p>Re 2. The fact was Nizar, the MB had an audience with the Sultan before there was a decision from the State assembly as to his support in the assembly. Article 16 (6) of the constitution relates to the event of decision by the state assembly. The request was made therefore based on anything but not on Article 16 (2).</p>
<p>Re.5. The suspicion that the MB has lost the confidence of the majority might be perceived after the three kataks had submitted their resignation to the Speaker. It is the speaker who could determine with certainty and legally whether the three kataks were still ADUNs. Had the state Assembly been called, and as the Speaker had the authority to decide whether kataks were still Aduns, and he had expressed that they were no longer so, there could only be 28 BN ADUNs who vote against Nizar who has now 28 ADUNs who support him. So they would be hung assembly. The MB has not lost the majority when he equals his opponent. Under the circumstances, the way to prove legitimacy is to have the assembly dissolved.</p>
<p>RE. 6. HRH had the constitutional authority to do what he was authorised, but under the law it is the Speaker who can determine the status of the ADUN who had on their writing resigned the post. The HRH could have made the enquiry, but he had not obtained the additional authority to decide whether the kataks were still the ADUN, legally. It is because the Sultan could not legally determine the status of the kataks, and that voting in the hall is different from giving opinion that the question of whether the MB had the support of the Assembly ought ot be determine in the right place, the hall of the state assembly.</p>
<p>Re.8. The evidence was that there was no meeting in the Perak State assembly to outvote the MB. All meetings done in the Palace were not relevant so far as to the determination of the support of the MB in the state assembly. That has to be seen to be believed. </p>
<p>The Court of Appeal tried hard to find excuses to deviate from “The case of Stephen Kalong Ningkan,’ and they claimed that “The case of Stephen Kalong Ningkan, adopted by the learned Judge (High Court), is distinguishable on its facts.  They might have noted also that the Chief Minister of Sarawak was dismissed by the governor, and not a Sultan.</p>
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		<title>By: ktteokt</title>
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		<dc:creator>ktteokt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 07:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perak has become a TIME BOMB for BN - due to explode in 3 years&#039; time!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perak has become a TIME BOMB for BN &#8211; due to explode in 3 years&#8217; time!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: boh-liao</title>
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		<dc:creator>boh-liao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 06:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Locter Zombie and his gang
had won a Pyrrhic victory
They thought they won the battle
but they will eventually lose the war

For someone who is locter
pity can&#039;t see the forest for the trees
He no see n no faham
Sometimes people
Lose the battle to win the war

The long march has begun
For whom the bell tolls
it tolls for thee …... My Zombie locter&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Locter Zombie and his gang<br />
had won a Pyrrhic victory<br />
They thought they won the battle<br />
but they will eventually lose the war</p>
<p>For someone who is locter<br />
pity can&#8217;t see the forest for the trees<br />
He no see n no faham<br />
Sometimes people<br />
Lose the battle to win the war</p>
<p>The long march has begun<br />
For whom the bell tolls<br />
it tolls for thee …&#8230; My Zombie locter</b><b></b></p>
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		<title>By: monsterball</title>
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		<dc:creator>monsterball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 06:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why be surprised...braggart..Limkamput is  praising Chengho.
Two of the same birds must flock together.
There two types of loose cannons.
I am one loose cannon shooting our balls of fire....hitting targets and get results.
Chengho and self proclaimed..highly educated  Limkamput are small boys talking big...out of text book knowledge. They are also loose  cannons ...shooting out hot air...useless and shameless Malaysians performing to be racialists and serve their master UMNO at the best of their abilities.
They maybe  old in age....but their brains and mentalities  are out-dated and stagnant....so alike their masters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why be surprised&#8230;braggart..Limkamput is  praising Chengho.<br />
Two of the same birds must flock together.<br />
There two types of loose cannons.<br />
I am one loose cannon shooting our balls of fire&#8230;.hitting targets and get results.<br />
Chengho and self proclaimed..highly educated  Limkamput are small boys talking big&#8230;out of text book knowledge. They are also loose  cannons &#8230;shooting out hot air&#8230;useless and shameless Malaysians performing to be racialists and serve their master UMNO at the best of their abilities.<br />
They maybe  old in age&#8230;.but their brains and mentalities  are out-dated and stagnant&#8230;.so alike their masters.</p>
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		<title>By: KennyGan</title>
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		<dc:creator>KennyGan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 04:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Najib is aware of the tidal wave of anger over Perak but he will do nothing to dissolve the Assembly and hold fresh elections. His methods of countering it will be the traditional Umno way such as:

1) People have short memories. [desperately clutching at straws]

2) Use the mainstream media to spin and shape public opinion. [doesn&#039;t work anymore but Umno hasn&#039;t learned]

3) Use the carrot and the stick during elections. [voters have learned to take the carrot and ignore the stick]

4) Voters have no choice but BN. [not true anymore but Umno is still in denial]

Najib knows what really needs to be done but he will not do it. He has less freehand than you think with the culture and foundation of Umno. Like AAB, Najib is a prisoner of history.

A way out has been missed with executive interference in the courts. If Nizar had been allowed to win the appeal as he rightly deserves, the court decision could have been used as the excuse to dissolve the Assembly.

But now, there&#039;s no way Umno&#039;s warlords will not allow him to snatch the loot of Perak away from their greedy hands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Najib is aware of the tidal wave of anger over Perak but he will do nothing to dissolve the Assembly and hold fresh elections. His methods of countering it will be the traditional Umno way such as:</p>
<p>1) People have short memories. [desperately clutching at straws]</p>
<p>2) Use the mainstream media to spin and shape public opinion. [doesn't work anymore but Umno hasn't learned]</p>
<p>3) Use the carrot and the stick during elections. [voters have learned to take the carrot and ignore the stick]</p>
<p>4) Voters have no choice but BN. [not true anymore but Umno is still in denial]</p>
<p>Najib knows what really needs to be done but he will not do it. He has less freehand than you think with the culture and foundation of Umno. Like AAB, Najib is a prisoner of history.</p>
<p>A way out has been missed with executive interference in the courts. If Nizar had been allowed to win the appeal as he rightly deserves, the court decision could have been used as the excuse to dissolve the Assembly.</p>
<p>But now, there&#8217;s no way Umno&#8217;s warlords will not allow him to snatch the loot of Perak away from their greedy hands.</p>
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		<title>By: sightseeing</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/05/23/perak-the-epicentre-of-umno-fault-line/comment-page-1/#comment-176520</link>
		<dc:creator>sightseeing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 04:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of the MPs and ADUNs from MCA and Gerakan are Chenghos, they are male and female Changhos. The Chengho who post in this blog sounds like the Chang Ko Youn, the Gerakan chief of Perak and special advisor to Zambry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of the MPs and ADUNs from MCA and Gerakan are Chenghos, they are male and female Changhos. The Chengho who post in this blog sounds like the Chang Ko Youn, the Gerakan chief of Perak and special advisor to Zambry.</p>
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		<title>By: AhPek</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/05/23/perak-the-epicentre-of-umno-fault-line/comment-page-1/#comment-176519</link>
		<dc:creator>AhPek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 04:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course you are right,Kasim Amat,who can doubt the ability of UMNO goons in manipulating the judiciary.You want me to quote again what that little but huge towering figure Tun Justice Suffian has to say about our judiciary.But the impending war that is to come in 3 or 4 years time will be waged by the little Joes in the street,is BN going to win this time?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course you are right,Kasim Amat,who can doubt the ability of UMNO goons in manipulating the judiciary.You want me to quote again what that little but huge towering figure Tun Justice Suffian has to say about our judiciary.But the impending war that is to come in 3 or 4 years time will be waged by the little Joes in the street,is BN going to win this time?</p>
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		<title>By: Kasim Amat</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/05/23/perak-the-epicentre-of-umno-fault-line/comment-page-1/#comment-176516</link>
		<dc:creator>Kasim Amat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 04:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is anticipated that the judges of the Court of Appeal would do the job right, and I was right. The justice is now returned to Datuk Zambry and the people of Perak. People in Perak should be proud of the Court&#039;s decision and should respect the judgement. PR should not resort to public protest or any kind of action to object to the judgement. UMNO will always fight against the injustice and UMNO will never lose. 

I urge PR to give up their appeal to the Federal Court so that Perak could revert back to its peaceful moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is anticipated that the judges of the Court of Appeal would do the job right, and I was right. The justice is now returned to Datuk Zambry and the people of Perak. People in Perak should be proud of the Court&#8217;s decision and should respect the judgement. PR should not resort to public protest or any kind of action to object to the judgement. UMNO will always fight against the injustice and UMNO will never lose. </p>
<p>I urge PR to give up their appeal to the Federal Court so that Perak could revert back to its peaceful moment.</p>
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		<title>By: YK Leong</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/05/23/perak-the-epicentre-of-umno-fault-line/comment-page-1/#comment-176504</link>
		<dc:creator>YK Leong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 03:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The majority of the people had sensed it was coming based on series of 2 Judical Systems. This is no surprise.

BN has no right to call itself legitimate until BN returns the mandate to the Perakians. BN must put the 3 defectors to stand in their respective constituencies. 

Let Perakians be the judges of the day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The majority of the people had sensed it was coming based on series of 2 Judical Systems. This is no surprise.</p>
<p>BN has no right to call itself legitimate until BN returns the mandate to the Perakians. BN must put the 3 defectors to stand in their respective constituencies. </p>
<p>Let Perakians be the judges of the day.</p>
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		<title>By: ctc537</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/05/23/perak-the-epicentre-of-umno-fault-line/comment-page-1/#comment-176502</link>
		<dc:creator>ctc537</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 02:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The world economy is set to recover from next year, the PR-controlled states, especially Selangor and Penang, must continue to do well and attract more and more investments, providing the people with more and better-paying jobs. That&#039;s the most important thing to do for being in power. What well-to-do people like Monsterball, Jeffrey, Limkamput, etc, write are true and undeniable, but what we ordinary wage-earners want more is ever improving income. So, sometimes, I just have to be honest to myself, and give credit here credit is due. 
I&#039;m glad to note that our Penang CM LGE is slowly and surely learning the finer points of governing the state considering the amount of investments flowing into the state for the past few months. Penang island is small, people have few opportunities for career advancement. The bright spot is the electronics sector. No wonder people here give their best when they get the opportunity to work in the factories. That&#039;s how Penang rightly earned its title &#039;Malaysia&#039;s Silicon Valley&#039;. Given the improving economic scenario, Penang&#039;s reputation as manufacturing centre par excellence will help establish PR&#039;s dynasty in Penang like what it did Gerakan/Umno in the past. 
Not to veer from the main topic, if Pakatan Rakyat wants the unwavering support of the people, it has to show results in the states they are governing. Just serve the people colour blind, the people will in turn show their gratitude come the 13th GE. Do the right thing all the time and allow Umno/BN to misstep and falter. But remember, PM Najib is no pushover. He is a seaoned politician and learned how his father win over the confidence of the Chinese, even only a few years after May 13, 1969, as the 1974 GE results clearly showed that the confidence of the Chinee in his leaderhip had returned. The 2nd Premier broke the ice in Malaysia-Singapore relations in 1973, then went to China in 1974 to shake hands with Mao Zedong. 
Now PM Najib is doing likewise - visiting Singapore and then China, but this time around the son is doing all for the right reasons of bringing economic benefits to the rakyat. 
The PR have to counter the onslaught of the BN by outperforming them in PR-controlled states, especially Selangor which is the heart of Malaysia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The world economy is set to recover from next year, the PR-controlled states, especially Selangor and Penang, must continue to do well and attract more and more investments, providing the people with more and better-paying jobs. That&#8217;s the most important thing to do for being in power. What well-to-do people like Monsterball, Jeffrey, Limkamput, etc, write are true and undeniable, but what we ordinary wage-earners want more is ever improving income. So, sometimes, I just have to be honest to myself, and give credit here credit is due.<br />
I&#8217;m glad to note that our Penang CM LGE is slowly and surely learning the finer points of governing the state considering the amount of investments flowing into the state for the past few months. Penang island is small, people have few opportunities for career advancement. The bright spot is the electronics sector. No wonder people here give their best when they get the opportunity to work in the factories. That&#8217;s how Penang rightly earned its title &#8216;Malaysia&#8217;s Silicon Valley&#8217;. Given the improving economic scenario, Penang&#8217;s reputation as manufacturing centre par excellence will help establish PR&#8217;s dynasty in Penang like what it did Gerakan/Umno in the past.<br />
Not to veer from the main topic, if Pakatan Rakyat wants the unwavering support of the people, it has to show results in the states they are governing. Just serve the people colour blind, the people will in turn show their gratitude come the 13th GE. Do the right thing all the time and allow Umno/BN to misstep and falter. But remember, PM Najib is no pushover. He is a seaoned politician and learned how his father win over the confidence of the Chinese, even only a few years after May 13, 1969, as the 1974 GE results clearly showed that the confidence of the Chinee in his leaderhip had returned. The 2nd Premier broke the ice in Malaysia-Singapore relations in 1973, then went to China in 1974 to shake hands with Mao Zedong.<br />
Now PM Najib is doing likewise &#8211; visiting Singapore and then China, but this time around the son is doing all for the right reasons of bringing economic benefits to the rakyat.<br />
The PR have to counter the onslaught of the BN by outperforming them in PR-controlled states, especially Selangor which is the heart of Malaysia.</p>
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		<title>By: boh-liao</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/05/23/perak-the-epicentre-of-umno-fault-line/comment-page-1/#comment-176501</link>
		<dc:creator>boh-liao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 02:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like judges in Malaysia
agree to disagree
Judges from appeal court, high court, supreme court
all have different values and judgments
Same action, in different courts, meant different things
Haram, halal, haram, halal, haram, halal
No wonder people think courts are Aussiland
where kangaroos happily hop, hop, hop &amp; leap, leap, leap</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like judges in Malaysia<br />
agree to disagree<br />
Judges from appeal court, high court, supreme court<br />
all have different values and judgments<br />
Same action, in different courts, meant different things<br />
Haram, halal, haram, halal, haram, halal<br />
No wonder people think courts are Aussiland<br />
where kangaroos happily hop, hop, hop &amp; leap, leap, leap</p>
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		<title>By: k1980</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/05/23/perak-the-epicentre-of-umno-fault-line/comment-page-1/#comment-176499</link>
		<dc:creator>k1980</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 02:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what is the difference betwin UMNO and the pirates of SOMALIA?

umno not allowed to wear black but the pirates of Somalia wear black all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what is the difference betwin UMNO and the pirates of SOMALIA?</p>
<p>umno not allowed to wear black but the pirates of Somalia wear black all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: wanderer</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/05/23/perak-the-epicentre-of-umno-fault-line/comment-page-1/#comment-176497</link>
		<dc:creator>wanderer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 02:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amiable settlement, water supply to Singapore.....
cheaper water for the islanders!

nagig ton rosak, next move...foreign aids to Mongolia?!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amiable settlement, water supply to Singapore&#8230;..<br />
cheaper water for the islanders!</p>
<p>nagig ton rosak, next move&#8230;foreign aids to Mongolia?!!</p>
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		<title>By: boh-liao</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/05/23/perak-the-epicentre-of-umno-fault-line/comment-page-1/#comment-176492</link>
		<dc:creator>boh-liao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 01:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Singapore possesses all the evidence that Najib, Razak Baginda and Altantuya met at the Oriental Hotel in Marina Square one year before she died. This means, with the evidence that Singapore possesses, they would be able to blackmail Najib.&quot;

Rosmah n Najib are in Singapore
for their nth honeymoon
Blackmailed by Singapore?
No lah, maybe the evidence 
can be traded for the return of Mas Selamat to Singapore
One crook for another crook</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Singapore possesses all the evidence that Najib, Razak Baginda and Altantuya met at the Oriental Hotel in Marina Square one year before she died. This means, with the evidence that Singapore possesses, they would be able to blackmail Najib.&#8221;</p>
<p>Rosmah n Najib are in Singapore<br />
for their nth honeymoon<br />
Blackmailed by Singapore?<br />
No lah, maybe the evidence<br />
can be traded for the return of Mas Selamat to Singapore<br />
One crook for another crook</p>
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		<title>By: limkamput</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/05/23/perak-the-epicentre-of-umno-fault-line/comment-page-1/#comment-176491</link>
		<dc:creator>limkamput</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 01:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loose cannon ball says
&quot;Chengho does not know what the people want?
This little boy advises Nazar ..to move on…as if …an expert in politics&quot;.
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That is the problem with a self-serving loose cannon ball. Chengho is not a little boy.  He knows exactly what the people want and he has more expertise than a loose cannon.  Only a loose cannon will continuosly fall into his trap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loose cannon ball says<br />
&#8220;Chengho does not know what the people want?<br />
This little boy advises Nazar ..to move on…as if …an expert in politics&#8221;.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>That is the problem with a self-serving loose cannon ball. Chengho is not a little boy.  He knows exactly what the people want and he has more expertise than a loose cannon.  Only a loose cannon will continuosly fall into his trap.</p>
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