The end of the murder trial of the century in the Shah Alam High Court this morning, with policemen Chief Inspector Azilah Hadri and Corporal Sirul Azhar Umar found guilty and sentenced to death for murdering Mongolian woman Altantuya Shaariibuu, and then blowing up her body in a jungle clearing on Oct 19, 2006, is not going to end public fixation with any Altantuya-Najib nexus in national and international circles.
The question that is inevitably asked is who could be behind the two Bukit Aman Special Action Squad (UTK) cops’ C4 murder of Altantuya.
Those who had thought that the end of the Altantuya murder trial, with the conviction and death sentence pronounced on Azila and Sirul, would end national and international fixation with any connection of Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak with the Altantuya murder case cannot be more wrong.
While Azilah and Sirul would appeal against the mandatory death sentence upon conviction under Section 149 of the Penal Code, their conviction and death sentence have not lessened but intensified public demands and necessity for a Royal Commission of Inquiry into swirling allegations of Najib’s involvement in the Altantuya’s C4 murder case.
At 3 pm today, Najib is announcing his new Cabinet – but this important event in his six-day premiership, which is already marred by the two Umno/Barisan Nasional defeats in the Bukit Gantang and Bukit Selambau by-elections, is totally overshadowed by the Altantuya murder case conviction and death sentences.
As Najib has repeatedly declared his innocence of any involvement in the Altantuya C4 murder case, he must act decisively to set up a Royal Commission of Inquiry to lay all the swirling allegations about his involvement in the murder case which are haunting and hounding him, his administration and the nation’s good name, to rest once and for all – whether about the accessibility of C4 explosives, the disappearance of Altantuya immigration records, the exchange of SMS messages or the disappearance of private investigator Bala Subramaniam after making public a very damaging statutory declaration about Najib.
#1 by dawsheng on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 11:18 am
“The question that is inevitably asked is who could be behind the two Bukit Aman Special Action Squad (UTK) cops’ C4 murder of Altantuya.”
If you ask me I would say it was Najib Tun Razak, the current Prime Minister of Malaysia.
#2 by democrate on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 11:25 am
If Azilah And Sirul are murdrer, Why do they wanted to murder her?
Who are behind the two murderers ? how could a murderer kill someone without reasons.
The severe point is the C4 explosive in which the process of discharge of the C4 from the storage was so simple!
Really unbelievable! unbelievable!
#3 by wanderer on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 11:40 am
Blind loyalty have brought these two mongrels to a death sentence…a death without a cause.
The public demands for true justice…who were the evil culprits behind the murder of Altantayu…still roaming in our streets. It was obvious, these two murderers who did the actual killing have no purpose for her death…except being naive.
#4 by distantmalay on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 11:44 am
there is no established personal motives for the 2 cops to kill altantuya. there’s no prior relationship, no connection, no affair, no business between the 2 cops and altantuya.
it gives the impression that the cops went there to finish a job on orders.
#5 by Toyol on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 11:45 am
What is the motive? Where motive cannot be established, how can the court find them guilty BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT! These Special forces guys don’t take matters into their own hands…they listen only to higher authority.
Too many questions still remain unanswered:
1) who gave them orders
2) where is Bala
3) who authorised C4
4) why was Aminah’s cousin’s testimony expunged
5) how on earth could the prosecutor and defence be on the same side.
6) etc etc etc
#6 by pulau_sibu on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 11:45 am
Why these two poor and stupid police did not reveal the person who instructed them to kill? Who actually instructed them? The fact is they seem willing to die in covering up the truth. Let’s blow them up as well.
#7 by -ec- on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 11:48 am
1) Had the motives of the policemen in the murder been testified and evidenced? Quote from the Wall Street Journal today “Although Abdul Razak has been acquitted, the prosecution has not said what motive the two policemen could have for killing her.”
2) What about the famous dinner photo taken in Paris?
3) PI Bala? still missing?
4) Will the family of the policemen have a more ‘quality living’ thereafter?
5) Who deleted (or direct to delete) the immigration record of Altantuya?
#8 by -ec- on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 11:53 am
we should just send the two of them to the hanging platform now (no appeal!), will they tell the truth? what makes them trade in their lives with someone else?
#9 by monsterball on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 11:56 am
And why not…..two for the death of one…is he message given to the poor girl father. Are you not satisfied?
Those two will be heroes and family forever looked after.
They sacrificed to protect their gang leader.
Baginda is the unreliable one…and can tell all……if no choice. So he must be freed at all cost.
#10 by Taxidriver on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 11:58 am
Nobody in this world can refute the fact that the two policemen acted on instructions. The question is: Whose instructions? Furthermore, they were asked to assist by Razak Baginda to ‘handle’ the Mongolian girl. That being so, the logical reasoning is that the two policemen could not be so daring or stupid as to kill the girl. Again, the indication is that they received instructions from somebody of immense influence and power.
That Razak Baginda received assuarance that things would turn out fine via sms from the other Razak is the biggest telling factor that he was made a scapegoat. Why would someone who then was about to become the prime minister be so foolish as to want to help and ,in the process, be linked to a murder case??????
WHY? WHY? WHY? WHY? WHY? WHY? WHY?
#11 by OrangRojak on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 12:01 pm
In the Malaysian Insider article it reports that Manoj ‘notes’ the defendants had a motive and preplanned the killing. I can see no mention of a plausible motive. Going equipped to kill is not the same as pre-planning a killing, particularly in the defendants’ line of work. When did they ‘plan’ to kill that specific person?
#12 by La Pax on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 12:19 pm
why they (Azl & Srl) rather choose to be hung than spilling the beans..it’s does not worth at all. just 2 person involved? where are the rest..r they above the law? it’s time to sack the judge. The *&@$#%&*#^* is right before your eyes lah, Judge. Really geram aaahhh…
#13 by Taxidriver on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 12:21 pm
Azilah and Sirul will not die. They will just fade away with new identities together with Millions of Ringgit to last them and their families a lifetime.
Remember, they did not expose anything to defend themselves. In this world who would want to die just like that?
Who is Azilah? Who is Sirul? I have never seen their faces. Have you?? Take this from me: Very soon we will get the news of their executions. Sure, they will show you the dead bodies.
#14 by Anti Corruption on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 12:23 pm
I don’t think the two policemen will be hung. They can be substituted with someone else, ‘cos this is Boleh Land when NAR rules.
#15 by Tonberry on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 12:29 pm
i second that.
i also think is Najib Razak is trying to wrap up this case as fast as possible so that his premiership would not be jeopardized. Two death row inmates will take the place of Azilah & Sirul later…
#16 by SocratesPlato on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 12:33 pm
We expect this judgement from Day 1. Who won’t? Even Kugan’s case’s final judgement is expected. This is Malaysia – the land of no accountability and transparency. We don’t even know how these two look like. Even if it is a death sentence, you and I won’t even know if they use dummies to be sealed in black suits to be hanged. Who knows? They could use any unlucky illegal immigrants in the street to replace these 2 people. All are just acting. As if you expect the tainted Malaysian courts to fight for justice? Hahaha!
Of course, we hope the true murderer/s be punished somehow for the sake of justice. With the current situation in Malaysia, we can only hope a higher supernatural being can do something. Don’t expect the authorities to do something.
Don’t waste time with Royal Commission. Investigations will be done by their own people while they declare to the public that these people are fair individuals. The outcome is NFA because not enough evidences. Why bother? You already know deep down in your heart the answer before anything is even conducted. Don’t waste time. You are asking the criminal lords to investigate the crime of their gang members. What do you expect the results to be?
By the way, a word of advice to all the oppositions. What’s the point of making any police report against BN people? Any of them have a good conclusion? They all ended up as NFA because there are not enough evidences. Same with the courts, the police are their own people. Therefore, why waste time making police reports? It is a waste of time because before you even make the report, you already know the outcome.
The only solution is to end BN’s rule. There is no other way to work in the current system. Everything is under their power. Whatever you do, there is no justice.
#17 by sheriff singh on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 12:41 pm
Until today even when found guilty, they continue to hide their faces outside the court.
Doesn’t anyone have their photographs?
#18 by La Pax on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 12:46 pm
taxidriver and anti corruption,
I have the same thought too tat they wil have some one to die in their place..kiasi. first thing, they will go to s.korea for plastic surgery coz they hv a lot of money then joint baginda at the oxford for further study. hell.
#19 by OrangRojak on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 12:59 pm
I see the phrase ‘unsubstantiated rumours’ is being flogged like Coca Cola on the Malaysian Internet at the moment. It wasn’t the unsubstantiated rumours that lost BN those votes. Nobody in their right mind believes a word they say any more. Public servants are killing visitors and locals. The courts are doing whatever they are told, no matter how unjust the outcome. What is more substantial than murder and injustice? I don’t think any sensible person really intends to accuse any person or persons of killing Altantuya, but neither do any of us wish to witness a blatant cover-up.
Since one of the defendants has made a statement to the effect that they expected to be well paid for their work, isn’t the death sentence tantamount to destroying evidence? Are death sentences ever commuted to life sentences ‘in the public interest’?
#20 by k1980 on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 1:08 pm
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#21 by pakualakurau on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 1:16 pm
Hai, Taxidriver
Are you sure somebody else is going to sacrify in order to save these two murderers. Is our bolen land can stretch to that extend?
Wow! if that is correct than i cant imagine what will happen next to this boleh land.
Any comments are welcome on this replacement murderer with someone.
#22 by boh-liao on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 1:27 pm
Now that the court case has ended, people can once again mention Altantuya Shaariibuu freely and liberally.
Poor cops, do they really have to die for their C4 act?
But do we know their faces?
Since day 1, their faces have been covered. They can hang anyone and show us the dead bodies of two unknown faces and tell us they are them. Really?
Or are they given a great escape and new identities to enjoy the loot of Razak Baginda in Oxford as well?
Remember this is the Bolehland. Semua boleh as NR once said: Don’t worry, everything kowtim.
#23 by La Pax on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 1:35 pm
http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/o/r/oruggedc.htm
omg oxford’s name is s……. hahahaaaaaaaa
#24 by Taxidriver on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 1:48 pm
Famous Hollywood movie producer and movie director, George Lucas and Steven Speilberg, might be interested in this case which has all the ingredients for a suspenseful and intriguing Hollywood blockbuster movie. A good title for this movie would be ‘The Malaysian PM Connection’
If ever such a movie is made, my view is that it sould’nt have an open-ended ending. Instead, the movie should end with a scene of two men with their faces covered and their wives and children being surrounded by plain-clothed police agents, ushered into a Malaysian fighter plane which finally gave a thunderous and ear-bursting roar as it took to the clear blue sky. The song ‘Born Free’ by Matt Monroe………THE END
#25 by Godfather on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 1:58 pm
There is nothing much we can do beyond speculating endlessly on what might have been. The accused have never said that were acting on orders to kill, and both the prosecution and defence lawyers have objected to that line of questioning. Both the prosecution and defence lawyers have agreed that the case is only about proof of murder, and not about motive or about acting in concert with other people.
If the two UTK personnel wish to remain tight-lipped, and are willing to die for a cover-up of unimaginable proportions, then the puppeteers will continue to roam free.
#26 by ekans on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 2:00 pm
The question that is inevitably asked is who could be behind the two Bukit Aman Special Action Squad (UTK) cops’ C4 murder of Altantuya.
At first, it was made to look like that Razak Baginda had hired those two cops to do it in order to cover up his affair with the victim, but then Razak was acquitted.
So, what other motive would two cops from an elite squad have for murdering a foreign private citizen to the extent that they had attempted to dispose the victim’s remains by blowing it up with a supposedly controlled military grade plastic explosive?
Think about it…
If a cop wants to commit premeditated murder and of course, get away with it, wouldn’t this cop know that it has to be done in such away that any possible forensic evidence that would lead back to him/her has to be avoided or eliminated?
Wouldn’t a cop be in the best position to know how his/her colleagues investigate a homicide, and thus, be able to avoid the common mistakes made by a murderer that would eventually lead to his/her capture?
In this case, it would appear that the victim might have died by accident, and there was a hasty attempt to cover it up.
So, it’s possible that the two UTK cops were instructed by somebody high up in the hierarchy to scare or intimidate the victim, but it got out of hand, leading to the victim’s death.
#27 by distantmalay on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 2:01 pm
need to cover their faces because they are special forces, need to be redeployed “elsewhere”
#28 by distantmalay on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 2:06 pm
the need for c4ing could be related to her pregnancy.
in the caution statement by one of the cops, she was reported as pleading, “don’t kill me, i am pregnant…”
#29 by pulau_sibu on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 2:16 pm
The guy is now doing a PhD in Oxford? Is it true? That college should be shut down if it is taking this kind of people and giving him a PhD
#30 by monsterball on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 2:17 pm
Consider this….
In the gangster world….it is an honour to die for the gang leader. Whole family is assured to be take care off for life..so die in peace.
However…if one is unreliable and is well educate rich and famous like Baginda…the gang leader must get him out free at all cost…..or he may expose all..without fear.
In the world of gangsterism….and warlords….look at the pattern of our country governed by UMNO BARU.
Not one big corrupted crook ever got caught and go to jail. It’s always the small fishes.
The leaders are so well protected…you can never get real proofs…for once near the truths..someone will step out and confess..sacrificing his life to protect the gang leader…..or that person…simply disappear…alive or dead..depends on the negotiations.
Almost all important Govt. Depts have gang leaders….be it Police .Judicial….Immigration…and few others.
These were encouraged and started when Mahathir killed UMNO …steal billions…to enrich UMNO BARU…personal and friends….establishing himself… as the Warlord…..much more powerful than gang leaders. All are so happy…especially the Police and Judicial Dept. In cultured language…we identify him as a Dictator.
Millions who love Tunku Abdul Rahman…cried in silence…..feeling helpless….no way to bring justice to our Bapak Malaysia….until now….focusing to bury UMNO BARU with People’s Power they now realise…they make the Warlords…they will sack them in elections.
Everybody make mistakes…and voters realising they made great mistakes to trust UMNO BARU gives hope for great future and unity..
Before Mahathir…there were corruptions…as corruptions …we all know..cannot be completely eradicated anywhere in the world.
And those past UMNO leaders before Mahathir…do love the country and people more…thus steal only enough to enjoy life…not buy properties…expensive cars and houses…NEVER!!
They do feel guilty…and one…who stole RM1 million…a Mentri Besar of Selangor..Harun Idris..had to go to jail for 3 years…on corruption.
Now hundreds of millions…no proofs…no charges….all masterminded by Mahathir….with laws and by laws..amended to protect themselevs.
Now look at present scenario starting from Mahathir’s 22 years as PM. Raids conducted DVDs shops..yet where are the factories…not known…..prostitute dens..gambling houses….non stop raiding…yet not one big fish is caught…..the financier….the real Big Boss…not one is caught….while w can see so many hundreds of Police Officers are living like multi millionaires.
Yes….Big Boss in gangsterism world….steal from EPF and Petronas…our money…never get caught….because it is for Malays and UMNO….so those half pass sixes are thinking like so. Also they earn small salaries..no need to pay income tax…not realising….the EPF and Oil money are theirs too…which UMNO are…actually steal from them too.
Now on Altantuya case…any idiot in the whole wide world knows…she cannot be C4ed for nothing!
Those two so call terrible killers sentenced to death….are just machais…gang leader foot soldiers…taking the rap to protect the leader.
If you believe those two take orders from someone and that someone is feeling completely confident..no harm will come to him….then UMNO BARU is a racialist… gangster party…and somehow….Justice must be seen and done….sooner or later.
#31 by ekans on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 2:18 pm
As Najib has repeatedly declared his innocence of any involvement in the Altantuya C4 murder case, he must act decisively to set up a Royal Commission of Inquiry to lay all the swirling allegations about his involvement in the murder case which are haunting and hounding him, his administration and the nation’s good name, to rest once and for all –
We’ve seen the disappointing outcome of the Lingam Video RCI.
Will a RCI on this case be any better, especially when UMNO’s BN still runs the federal government?
And so far, neither the Pekan MP himself nor our nation’s foreign ministry has taken any form of action against those foreign publications who had already printed out articles which made allegations that the said MP & his spouse are involved in this murder case.
Thus, it can be said that all lingering doubts about this man’s self-declared innocence has not been removed…
#32 by OrangRojak on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 2:25 pm
Godfather Says: The accused have never said that were acting on orders to kill
So the images I see on the Internet (google for ‘sirul caution statment’ – a few examples on that first page of results) which purport to be caution statements, where Sirul says:
Are they genuine? I had to ask someone to translate for me, so my understanding is second-hand.
the case is only about proof of murder
This reminds me of the Lina Joy case – didn’t that end up as a case to deal with some finer point of law which ultimately avoided the issue altogether? Is it actually possible to have a (what is it here?) Federation of Malaysia versus accused murder case which is not about serving justice in the case of the murder? Why are they tackling some finer point? Is this only one in a series of cases in respect of Altantuya’s death, or is this it? This is like prosecuting the 9/11 terrorists for smoking after the ‘No smoking’ light came on in the airplane cabin!
#33 by Godfather on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 2:32 pm
What cautioned statement ? I believe that the “cautioned statement” was never tendered because the AG said that experience has shown that a majority of accused had reneged on their (earlier) cautioned statements.
#34 by Godfather on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 2:34 pm
The AG was obviously a psychic to think that Sirul will eventually contradict his cautioned statement.
#35 by frankyapp on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 2:52 pm
UTK cops Azila and Sirul willingness to sacrifice their young lives for their boss/bossses was indeed amazing ,but for what guys ?.Did it worth it,say for a few million ringgits in exchange for precious God given life ? Most if not all,would say no way,right,guys ?.But why then,these two cops did what we all rejected out right?.What have their parents to say about their sons being made a scrapgoats by some invisible hand or hands ?.Like most of you guys,two things are bothering me most (1) How was it that both guys could remain silence steadfastly ,never ever mentioning they were order to do the job.
(2)These two cops did say,they didn’t know her (murdered victim).Question is why then murdered some one whom they didn’t know ?.Does not make any sense,right guys ?.Pray and hope that Azila and Sirul will appeal their death sentence and in the appeal arena,with Allah’s grace and guidance will reveal the whole truth nothing but the truth as to who are the culprit or culprits .No one should ever be relieved until the real evil person or persons are reveal and charge according to the severity of the crime.
#36 by Godfather on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 2:52 pm
Of course we know that the cautioned statement will drag more issues into the line of questioning, like who is Musa Safri, and his relationship to Razak Baginda; who was the Indian guy mentioned and why wasn’t he brought as a witness; why was C4 kept in Sirul’s house; etc etc.
#37 by cintanegara on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 2:58 pm
DAP is trying hard to divert public attention from the corruption case involving ex Penang deputy chief. If incompetence is the cause, will DAP demand the CM to resign??? I doubt so…….Their so called fight against corruption is only rhetoric and double standard….This is what we called “Cakap tak serupa bikin”
Did anyone notice that each topic in this blog is classified based on categorises (right bottom side of this page)? There are more than 70 categories defined…….but couldn’t find the word NEPOTISM……maybe DAP is too scared to discuss about this topic…. This is what we called “Menepuk air di dulang, terpercik muka sendiri”
On the other, It has always been obvious to us that Godfather is more open to talk about the ‘Senior’ posts in the cabinet….. Keep It Up!
#38 by Godfather on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 3:01 pm
I absolutely love to talk about “senior” posts in the cabinet, because the most senior post is already taken by a person tainted with corruption in the scorpene submarine and Eurocopter scandals. Faham tak, cintanegara ?
#39 by TheWrathOfGrapes on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 3:11 pm
In the BKF case, there a crime was committed, but there was no criminals.
In this case, though there are two fall guys, they are just pawns who carried out the order. Who was the mastermind who gave the order?
#40 by TheWrathOfGrapes on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 3:12 pm
In the BMF case, a crime was committed, but there were no criminals…
#41 by pulau_sibu on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 3:14 pm
Why the agencies such as CIA and KGB (what is the new name?) do not get involved. They must have the information. With huge money floating around, there must be records. Why no one went to investigate the bank records in France, boleh, etc?
‘They’ really wanted the two policemen been hang soonest, before given a chance to talk
#42 by OrangRojak on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 3:19 pm
Cintanegara is right! Nepotism is a scourge and should be eradicated with every joule of energy left in our bodies!
Put it on the list! Right down there, after extra judicial killing, perversion of justice, detention without trial, racism, suppression of dissent and free speech, you guys think of some others.
Personally, I can’t wait to get round to tackling nepotism. If we get that far down the list, Malaysia will already be like heaven on Earth! I might even be able to ‘close one eye’ and get some flippin’ work done!
Nice try cintanegara, come back when you’ve found the skeleton under Lim Kit Siang’s patio.
#43 by wesuffer on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 3:21 pm
these two cop will never tell who instructed them to kill this lady.
tell or don tell, the result also the same. because they really kill that lady.
if they keep quiet to accept death sentence. they family may get millions ringgit for compensate.
such ranking of cop, do we think their life can earn millions ringgit base on current salary ?
#44 by Godfather on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 3:39 pm
cintanegara:
Keep digging your head into the sand. Go deeper, you will find bliss there. Definitely cooler, and no noise too…..
#45 by yappek on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 3:40 pm
who think that these guys will go to the gallow will be the biggest clown in town. they think the public is so naive and stupid !
anyway nowadays $$$$ can do wonders and our police nowadays are like official mafia gang to BN.they act like mafia Godfather !
law and order is for the rich as what my father use to tell me true in every sense.
God when can all this stop ???? Are you up there ???
#46 by cintanegara on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 3:43 pm
Godfather, if PR happened to take charge of Federal Government, will DAP accept the Environment and Water Resources Minister post? Sure want meh….senior enough meh…..
#47 by AhPek on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 3:46 pm
‘what makes them trade in their lives with someone else?’. -ec-
Hmm…. are you sure or not they are trading their lives with someone else?Way things are played out in BolehLand anything goes! Can’t they be packed off under a new identity to live a comfortable life somewhere in Indonesia as a reward for faithfully carrying out the big man’s instruction.Your guess is as good as mine.
#48 by computation on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 4:11 pm
damn! i’ve not been made a minister.
oh right i am not half past six.
whew!
#49 by puteri pinang on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 4:22 pm
why every layman knows that the 2 guys were on instructions except the highly intelligent high court? My, my, my. A country that has been turned upside down by those sophisticated leaders. What to talk about clean cabinet when the submarine deal is still bothering every rakyat except the anticorruption agency???
#50 by sheriff singh on Thursday, 9 April 2009 - 4:22 pm
Dammmmmm. Samy Vellu, the wira, didn’t make it.
But its 31 to 28 in Perak. Confirmed by Federal Court.