Understand that DAP National Chairman and MP for Bukit Gelugor Karpal Singh is to be charged with sedition at the Jalan Duta Sessions Court, Kuala Lumpur tomorrow morning at 9 am.
Darkness descends every day with Najib Razak getting closer to become the next Prime Minister.
#1 by ekans on Tuesday, 17 March 2009 - 10:58 am
Sedition is the act of saying words or performing actions that make the people rebel against authority.
Karpal has not tried to incite the people to rise and overthrow the monarchy.
Let’s not forget that the late Tunku Abdul Rahman had mentioned in a book of his almost 40 years ago that Dr.M had suggested to him that the constitutional monarchy in Malaysia should be replaced by the republic system.
Isn’t that much more seditious than what Karpal had said or done?
#2 by Jeffrey on Tuesday, 17 March 2009 - 11:30 am
Undergrad2
Re your posting Today at 10: 24.17 (1 hour ago), you’re correct that intent is not relevant in sedition. However what was said and proposed to be done by Karpal is, irrespective of intent, qualifies, as non-seditious by objective measure of (a) and (b) stated in Sedition Act set out per my earlier posting at 06: 56.23 above.
#3 by HJ Angus on Tuesday, 17 March 2009 - 11:34 am
I believe most Malaysians support Karpal Singh (allbeit silently) in this matter.
What he did was quite appopriate in asking that the courts decide if the Sultan had exceeded his powers under the state constitution.
http://malaysiawatch4.blogspot.com/2009/03/malaysiakini-and-sin-of-karpal-singh.html
#4 by HJ Angus on Tuesday, 17 March 2009 - 11:38 am
It now looks as if the government is now using the rulers’ position as an excuse to suit their own agenda – ie retain power in Perak and to curb dissent.
Unfortunately this type of action has one result – it will further remove the affection that people have for the royal families.
#5 by limkamput on Tuesday, 17 March 2009 - 12:11 pm
Wannabe Judge and lawyer, who do not know what you said. But unfortunately, you are not the judge to judge, And for you, 101, you are not the lawyer to argue the case.
#6 by Raja Chulan on Tuesday, 17 March 2009 - 12:14 pm
Dear Readers,
“Suara Rakyat Suara Keramat”.
Mr. Karpal had only expressed the voice of the common man regarding the Perak Commedy.
One cannot honestly deny that the common man is very unhappy and very angry indeed at what had happened in the Perak palace.
Charging Mr. Karpal with sedition tantamounts to attempt by the powers to silence the Rakyat.
Can they?
I believe, the Rakyat will take effective measures come the next General Elections to show who really is supreme in a democracy.
Cheers, Hidup Malaysia.
Hidup Rakyat Malaysia!!
Raja Chulan.
#7 by homeblogger on Tuesday, 17 March 2009 - 1:20 pm
Raja Chulan Says:
Today at 12: 14.27 (1 hour ago)
Dear Readers,
“Suara Rakyat Suara Keramat”.
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Tetapi UMNO, BN dan Najib pekak dan buta.
#8 by k1980 on Tuesday, 17 March 2009 - 1:59 pm
I am saying that the most powerful man in the world, Hussein Obama can be sued. Why am I not charged with sedition by the US govt? Or is the US frightened of me?
#9 by winc on Tuesday, 17 March 2009 - 2:26 pm
“kluangman,
Awak bercakap pakai kepala lutut agaknya – sudah banyak kes UMNO kalah dan bersalah dan mahkamah yang sama membebaskan Anwar.
Dan mahkamah yang sama akan mengadili Karpal – kenapa ada dwi persepsi !!!”
Berani buat berani tanggung, kenapa rasa cemas untuk didakwa… bukankah seseroang itu tidak bersalah sehingga dibuktikan bersalah oleh mahkamah.”
Mat,
Definisi hang kat mane? Ape maksud hang “banyak kes kalah….”? Contoh? Bila? Dimana? dan jugak … SIAPA?
Kes bebas Anwar tu psl tiada bukti nak sabit. bukan psl kes tu dibicara atau tidak. itupun lepas 6 thn…
Tiada dwi persepsi. Kapal nak kes dia tu dibicara di bukan sekadar di mahkamah tinggi tetapi ke mahkamah persekutuan. tiada siapa nak bimbang. biar kes tu dibawa ke mana2 mahkamah.
Ni hang tiada “basis” dlm komentar hang tu….
#10 by lbl on Tuesday, 17 March 2009 - 5:10 pm
Hi Zak_hammad:
When UMNO went against the royalty after the recent election, on the appointment of the Menteri Besar, is that not sedition?
You have one law for Karpal Singh and one for UMNO?
#11 by undergrad2 on Tuesday, 17 March 2009 - 8:20 pm
limkamput Says:
Today at 12: 11.03 (8 hours ago)
Wannabe Judge and lawyer, who do not know …”
“Who do not know”?? Please write in grammatical English.
This is what a product of the NEP is all about i.e. the same type who demands unequivocally that the teaching of Mathematics and Science be only in Malay.
#12 by undergrad2 on Tuesday, 17 March 2009 - 8:26 pm
The most conservative leaning judge would not find reason to convict Karpal for sedition.
It is not important that Karpal is being charged for sedition. What is important is that due process be given to anyone charged for a crime. It would appear that Karpal has the benefit of due process. He could have been detained under the Internal Security Act in which case it would be easier to deny him the rights of due process.
#13 by undergrad2 on Tuesday, 17 March 2009 - 8:29 pm
Godfather,
If Karpal is charged under the Internal Security Act, the presumption of innocence does not apply as he would have to prove his innocence. The burden of proof is on the other foot.
#14 by shamshul anuar on Tuesday, 17 March 2009 - 11:55 pm
Dear Undergrad2,
Then perhaps you should “enlighten” PAS Vice President on the importance of English. Why on earth Mohd Sabu joined the protest walk to Istane Negara?
Dear Ibl, yes UMNO did protest but finally it accepted with heavy heart the decision of Raja of Perlis. Now it is PR’s time to accept the Sultan of Perak’s decision.