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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/03/06/how-to-judge-the-judge/comment-page-2/#comment-164666</link>
		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 22:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kowtim Says: 

March 8th, 2009 (2 days ago) at 20: 32.16 
The law is an ass.&quot;

Please don&#039;t insult my ass!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kowtim Says: </p>
<p>March 8th, 2009 (2 days ago) at 20: 32.16<br />
The law is an ass.&#8221;</p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t insult my ass!</p>
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		<title>By: ALtPJK</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/03/06/how-to-judge-the-judge/comment-page-2/#comment-164492</link>
		<dc:creator>ALtPJK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 12:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re comments by undergrad2 above -

Right on!!

As Malik Imtiaz Sarwar had put it...&quot;The expectation that all affairs will be conducted to the exclusive convenience and the advantage of the Barisan Nasional and its leaders is more suited to a dictatorship in which the Rule of Law means nothing.&quot;

Well Sir, you can replace &#039;Barisan Nasional&#039; with UMNO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re comments by undergrad2 above -</p>
<p>Right on!!</p>
<p>As Malik Imtiaz Sarwar had put it&#8230;&#8221;The expectation that all affairs will be conducted to the exclusive convenience and the advantage of the Barisan Nasional and its leaders is more suited to a dictatorship in which the Rule of Law means nothing.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well Sir, you can replace &#8216;Barisan Nasional&#8217; with UMNO.</p>
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		<title>By: kowtim</title>
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		<dc:creator>kowtim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 12:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The law is an ass. First they say homicide is subjective, Cunningham way in 1957; then objective in 1982 Caldwell by the great Diplock. After all of them are dead new Lords like Hope, Cooke went back to Cunningham. No wonder Humpty Dumpty can go the way of Adorna.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The law is an ass. First they say homicide is subjective, Cunningham way in 1957; then objective in 1982 Caldwell by the great Diplock. After all of them are dead new Lords like Hope, Cooke went back to Cunningham. No wonder Humpty Dumpty can go the way of Adorna.</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/03/06/how-to-judge-the-judge/comment-page-2/#comment-164483</link>
		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 12:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If that is not bad enough, now in this embroiling grab for political power for which the Constitution should be the reference point, we even have officers of the judiciary treating it with disdain.&quot;


...and (if I may add) over just as many years, Malaysians  have come to show little  repect for the law as their leaders manipulate it to serve their interests with the help of the judiciary. Malaysians routinely bribe public officials and law enforcement officers to get what they want. They are no different from the legislators.

Malaysians have never come to know the rule of law and why it is important.

As for their Constitution, their lawmakers would do well to  flush it down the toilet. Even the toilet paper in the restroom of the lobby of Parliament Building serves public interest in more ways than our Constitution could hope to do. 



Anybody who says the constitution is supreme should have his head checked. What?? The legislature is supreme because it can amend the constitution willy-nilly? Not even the legislature but UMNO-BN lawmakers are supreme.

Every has had a role in this mess and every has to be blamed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If that is not bad enough, now in this embroiling grab for political power for which the Constitution should be the reference point, we even have officers of the judiciary treating it with disdain.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;and (if I may add) over just as many years, Malaysians  have come to show little  repect for the law as their leaders manipulate it to serve their interests with the help of the judiciary. Malaysians routinely bribe public officials and law enforcement officers to get what they want. They are no different from the legislators.</p>
<p>Malaysians have never come to know the rule of law and why it is important.</p>
<p>As for their Constitution, their lawmakers would do well to  flush it down the toilet. Even the toilet paper in the restroom of the lobby of Parliament Building serves public interest in more ways than our Constitution could hope to do. </p>
<p>Anybody who says the constitution is supreme should have his head checked. What?? The legislature is supreme because it can amend the constitution willy-nilly? Not even the legislature but UMNO-BN lawmakers are supreme.</p>
<p>Every has had a role in this mess and every has to be blamed.</p>
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		<title>By: blablowbla</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/03/06/how-to-judge-the-judge/comment-page-2/#comment-164446</link>
		<dc:creator>blablowbla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 07:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>something out of topic,but i still need to alert the Rakyat,there are so many issues that the federal govt. is  cheating us,from the earlier bumi equity achievement to the number of govt. servants in malaysia.

i challenge the federal govt. to reveal the actual figures of total govt.servants into details,not just mentioning 1.2 or 1.3 million,a stupid guy will believe it is such a small figure,i have mentioned a couple of times,it&#039;s actually 2.5 million!

you see,from the newspaper yesterday,merely teachers has already a whopping 370,000!

police:200,000,
army:300,000,
bomba,pga,fru:100,000
macc:5000
nurse n dr:250,000
putrajaya staff:50,000
dbkl and all PBTs:250,000
kementerian pelajaran,kesihatan,mahkamah,jakim,ikan,alam sekitar,tenaga/air dan komunikasi,dalam negeri,luar negeri,budaya,wanita,sukan,income tax,immigration,custom,blablabla all over
the country,how many do you guess?plus the unnamed jabatan-2 and kementerian-2,easily      1 million,so total up:2.5 million!

my goodness,i havent take into account the Suruhanjaya,like the SPR,SC,member of parliaments n their assistance n staff,embassies n their staff outside malaysia............

so,it is actually 3 million,but the sleeping head is all the whle telling us 1.2 million,why not we ask hm to pay the salaries of the 1.8 million himself?

if we enjoy a good services,many would not mind,but,their number is huge,services are terrible!

i hope the PR will make this a big issue,pressure them to announce the actual figures into breakdowns and reduce unnecessary departments,save the Rakyat&#039;s money!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>something out of topic,but i still need to alert the Rakyat,there are so many issues that the federal govt. is  cheating us,from the earlier bumi equity achievement to the number of govt. servants in malaysia.</p>
<p>i challenge the federal govt. to reveal the actual figures of total govt.servants into details,not just mentioning 1.2 or 1.3 million,a stupid guy will believe it is such a small figure,i have mentioned a couple of times,it&#8217;s actually 2.5 million!</p>
<p>you see,from the newspaper yesterday,merely teachers has already a whopping 370,000!</p>
<p>police:200,000,<br />
army:300,000,<br />
bomba,pga,fru:100,000<br />
macc:5000<br />
nurse n dr:250,000<br />
putrajaya staff:50,000<br />
dbkl and all PBTs:250,000<br />
kementerian pelajaran,kesihatan,mahkamah,jakim,ikan,alam sekitar,tenaga/air dan komunikasi,dalam negeri,luar negeri,budaya,wanita,sukan,income tax,immigration,custom,blablabla all over<br />
the country,how many do you guess?plus the unnamed jabatan-2 and kementerian-2,easily      1 million,so total up:2.5 million!</p>
<p>my goodness,i havent take into account the Suruhanjaya,like the SPR,SC,member of parliaments n their assistance n staff,embassies n their staff outside malaysia&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>so,it is actually 3 million,but the sleeping head is all the whle telling us 1.2 million,why not we ask hm to pay the salaries of the 1.8 million himself?</p>
<p>if we enjoy a good services,many would not mind,but,their number is huge,services are terrible!</p>
<p>i hope the PR will make this a big issue,pressure them to announce the actual figures into breakdowns and reduce unnecessary departments,save the Rakyat&#8217;s money!</p>
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		<title>By: cheng on</title>
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		<dc:creator>cheng on</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 05:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Malaysia may had only 1 simple law, i.e. KETUANAN UMNO ACT.
So by that ruling, a govt school teacher (husband) and a government hosp. nurse (wife) if they want to divorce, then also cannot hire outside lawyer, must be represented by state legal advisers???
Then, govt must hire at least another 3000 lawyers to be state legal advisers for one million plus civil servants??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Malaysia may had only 1 simple law, i.e. KETUANAN UMNO ACT.<br />
So by that ruling, a govt school teacher (husband) and a government hosp. nurse (wife) if they want to divorce, then also cannot hire outside lawyer, must be represented by state legal advisers???<br />
Then, govt must hire at least another 3000 lawyers to be state legal advisers for one million plus civil servants??</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 00:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When interpreting fine print of legislation like Government Proceedings Act, the judicial commissioner just cannot ignore the most basic principle of a party&#039;s right to appoint his own counsel of his choice or force him to accept counsel from State Legal Department already helping or representing one or two person(s) of the opposite side, in obvious conflict of interest.

Otherwise - this denying of one side of his right to counsel guaranteed by the Constitution and acquiescence with conflicts of interest of the State Legal Department representing both sides of a dispute - would make a mockery of Malaysian court proceedings and justice is not only not seen done, but injustice is positively seen done instead. 

If I were a person bias against Sivakumar/Perrak PR, and called upon to adjudicate the dispute, it would be a wiser course for me  to allow Siva to have his own lawyers and even Queen counsel if he so desires - so that &quot;impartiality &amp; fairness&quot; is a least &quot;seen&quot; done at the outset to back my bias ruling later that however cogent  Sivakumar&#039;s lawyers argue his case, &quot;I am still not convinced with the merits, that properly should go to opposite side, Zamri&#039;s&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When interpreting fine print of legislation like Government Proceedings Act, the judicial commissioner just cannot ignore the most basic principle of a party&#8217;s right to appoint his own counsel of his choice or force him to accept counsel from State Legal Department already helping or representing one or two person(s) of the opposite side, in obvious conflict of interest.</p>
<p>Otherwise &#8211; this denying of one side of his right to counsel guaranteed by the Constitution and acquiescence with conflicts of interest of the State Legal Department representing both sides of a dispute &#8211; would make a mockery of Malaysian court proceedings and justice is not only not seen done, but injustice is positively seen done instead. </p>
<p>If I were a person bias against Sivakumar/Perrak PR, and called upon to adjudicate the dispute, it would be a wiser course for me  to allow Siva to have his own lawyers and even Queen counsel if he so desires &#8211; so that &#8220;impartiality &amp; fairness&#8221; is a least &#8220;seen&#8221; done at the outset to back my bias ruling later that however cogent  Sivakumar&#8217;s lawyers argue his case, &#8220;I am still not convinced with the merits, that properly should go to opposite side, Zamri&#8217;s&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/03/06/how-to-judge-the-judge/comment-page-2/#comment-164409</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 23:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If lawyers for Zamri &amp; 6 others are from the State Legal Advisor&#039;s department then  obviously the opposite side cannot be rrepresented by State Legal advisor due to obvious conflict of interest. this is basic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If lawyers for Zamri &amp; 6 others are from the State Legal Advisor&#8217;s department then  obviously the opposite side cannot be rrepresented by State Legal advisor due to obvious conflict of interest. this is basic.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 23:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the lawyer representing Zambry argued that because Sivakumar’s gaji was paid by the govt that would make him a &quot;public officer&quot; under the Government Procedings Act : but about Zamri &amp; 6 others? Aren&#039;t their salaries also paid by the Govt making them &quot;public officer&quot;? They obviously know that State legal adviser cannot represent both sides of a dispute due to &quot;conflicts of interest&quot;.

However it is obvious that if Zamri &amp; 6 others contend that they are lawful representatives of Perak state govt (validly appointed) and not Mohd Nizar, who has been dismissed - and it is also clear that Speaker Siva Kumar is alleged to be siding the side that has been, according to Zamri, lawfully dismissed - then it is incumbent that solicitors of Zamri &amp; 6 others should have been dismissed instead of Siva&#039;s.

I address this comment to my old friend Siva&#039;s lawyer Nga Hock Cheh (if he&#039;s reading this) to take the point on appeal. He ought to to understand what I am talking about!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the lawyer representing Zambry argued that because Sivakumar’s gaji was paid by the govt that would make him a &#8220;public officer&#8221; under the Government Procedings Act : but about Zamri &amp; 6 others? Aren&#8217;t their salaries also paid by the Govt making them &#8220;public officer&#8221;? They obviously know that State legal adviser cannot represent both sides of a dispute due to &#8220;conflicts of interest&#8221;.</p>
<p>However it is obvious that if Zamri &amp; 6 others contend that they are lawful representatives of Perak state govt (validly appointed) and not Mohd Nizar, who has been dismissed &#8211; and it is also clear that Speaker Siva Kumar is alleged to be siding the side that has been, according to Zamri, lawfully dismissed &#8211; then it is incumbent that solicitors of Zamri &amp; 6 others should have been dismissed instead of Siva&#8217;s.</p>
<p>I address this comment to my old friend Siva&#8217;s lawyer Nga Hock Cheh (if he&#8217;s reading this) to take the point on appeal. He ought to to understand what I am talking about!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/03/06/how-to-judge-the-judge/comment-page-2/#comment-164406</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 23:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Datuk Dr Zambry &amp; 6 others seek a court declaration that the speaker&#039;s decision in suspending and preventing them from attending the assembly&#039;s sittings for 18 months (for Zambry) and 12 months (for the rest) is null and void.

In other words, Zamri &amp; 6 others say that they are the state government while Nizar is no longer Menteri Besar.

If they take that position, then, in relation to the Government Proceedings Act, Zamri &amp; 6 others should have got the State Legal Counsel to represent them instead of trying to disqualify V Sivakumar from engaging private lawyers and get the State Legal Counsel to represent him! 

And Judicial Commissioner Mr Ridwan Ibrahim should have disqualified the lawyers for  Zamri &amp; 6 others instead of the other way around Siviakumar’s lawyers.

With respect to the judicial commissioner, I think he ruled “wrong representation” on the wrong party (Sivakumar) than the right one (Zamri &amp; 6 others)! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Datuk Dr Zambry &amp; 6 others seek a court declaration that the speaker&#8217;s decision in suspending and preventing them from attending the assembly&#8217;s sittings for 18 months (for Zambry) and 12 months (for the rest) is null and void.</p>
<p>In other words, Zamri &amp; 6 others say that they are the state government while Nizar is no longer Menteri Besar.</p>
<p>If they take that position, then, in relation to the Government Proceedings Act, Zamri &amp; 6 others should have got the State Legal Counsel to represent them instead of trying to disqualify V Sivakumar from engaging private lawyers and get the State Legal Counsel to represent him! </p>
<p>And Judicial Commissioner Mr Ridwan Ibrahim should have disqualified the lawyers for  Zamri &amp; 6 others instead of the other way around Siviakumar’s lawyers.</p>
<p>With respect to the judicial commissioner, I think he ruled “wrong representation” on the wrong party (Sivakumar) than the right one (Zamri &amp; 6 others)! :)</p>
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		<title>By: ekans</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/03/06/how-to-judge-the-judge/comment-page-2/#comment-164392</link>
		<dc:creator>ekans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 16:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The views in this article by N.H.Chan of the recent events at the Ipoh High Court have reaffirmed my fears that this nation&#039;s constitution and laws have been selectively pushed aside &amp; replaced with &#039;Undang-undang Ketuanan UMNO&#039;, as long as it suits this party&#039;s insidious agenda of holding onto power or even wresting power from their political opponents, as we are now witnessing in Perak.

&#039;Undang-undang Ketuanan UMNO&#039; has obviously infected the courts with &#039;marsupialitis&#039; where a supposedly impartial judge will display the symptom of Judge &#039;I am the law!&#039; Dredd, playing the roles of judge, jury and executioner.

If anyone still wonders whether Zambry &amp; Co. actually have the mandate of the people of Perak to run the state govt, wonder no more, because clearly the mandate they&#039;ve actually got is by &#039;Undang-undang Ketuanan UMNO&#039;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The views in this article by N.H.Chan of the recent events at the Ipoh High Court have reaffirmed my fears that this nation&#8217;s constitution and laws have been selectively pushed aside &amp; replaced with &#8216;Undang-undang Ketuanan UMNO&#8217;, as long as it suits this party&#8217;s insidious agenda of holding onto power or even wresting power from their political opponents, as we are now witnessing in Perak.</p>
<p>&#8216;Undang-undang Ketuanan UMNO&#8217; has obviously infected the courts with &#8216;marsupialitis&#8217; where a supposedly impartial judge will display the symptom of Judge &#8216;I am the law!&#8217; Dredd, playing the roles of judge, jury and executioner.</p>
<p>If anyone still wonders whether Zambry &amp; Co. actually have the mandate of the people of Perak to run the state govt, wonder no more, because clearly the mandate they&#8217;ve actually got is by &#8216;Undang-undang Ketuanan UMNO&#8217;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: lizzie</title>
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		<dc:creator>lizzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 16:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The lawyer representing zambry&#039;s gang argued that becuase sivakumar&#039;s gaji is paid by the govt that makes him a public officer under the government procedings act.  I just wonder, all the prisoners are also paid while they bertugas during their prison terms, does it mean they are also public officers?

The precise reason for not hearing the case in open court is so that not to have to deal with all these tricky issues, that is my speculation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The lawyer representing zambry&#8217;s gang argued that becuase sivakumar&#8217;s gaji is paid by the govt that makes him a public officer under the government procedings act.  I just wonder, all the prisoners are also paid while they bertugas during their prison terms, does it mean they are also public officers?</p>
<p>The precise reason for not hearing the case in open court is so that not to have to deal with all these tricky issues, that is my speculation.</p>
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		<title>By: ALtPJK</title>
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		<dc:creator>ALtPJK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 15:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recent events in the apparent breakdown of the practice of democratic principles in Perak would add to make it appear, in hindsight, that the Reid Commission appointed by Her Majesty&#039;s government in 1956 to draft the Constitution for Malaysia is a waste of time.

For a good part of the fifty years after Merdeka, what ought to be the enshrined embodiment of all principles that identify this country to be a democracy steadily got trampled upon thanks to an over-zealous executive and an unchecked legislative.  

If that is not bad enough, now in this embroiling grab for political power for which the Constitution should be the reference point, we even have officers of the judiciary treating it with disdain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recent events in the apparent breakdown of the practice of democratic principles in Perak would add to make it appear, in hindsight, that the Reid Commission appointed by Her Majesty&#8217;s government in 1956 to draft the Constitution for Malaysia is a waste of time.</p>
<p>For a good part of the fifty years after Merdeka, what ought to be the enshrined embodiment of all principles that identify this country to be a democracy steadily got trampled upon thanks to an over-zealous executive and an unchecked legislative.  </p>
<p>If that is not bad enough, now in this embroiling grab for political power for which the Constitution should be the reference point, we even have officers of the judiciary treating it with disdain.</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
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		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 14:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Orang makan rojak says,

&quot; Perhaps that’s what an appeal is… they’re only human after all, and I do occasionally get a bad nasi ayam.&quot;

Suggest you sue the nasi ayam guy for damages RM 1.0 million like the judge in the U.S. who sued the Korean laundry guy for some US$14.0 million. That must have been the most expensive pair of pants in the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Orang makan rojak says,</p>
<p>&#8221; Perhaps that’s what an appeal is… they’re only human after all, and I do occasionally get a bad nasi ayam.&#8221;</p>
<p>Suggest you sue the nasi ayam guy for damages RM 1.0 million like the judge in the U.S. who sued the Korean laundry guy for some US$14.0 million. That must have been the most expensive pair of pants in the world.</p>
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		<title>By: hiro</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/03/06/how-to-judge-the-judge/comment-page-2/#comment-164369</link>
		<dc:creator>hiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 13:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First year law students who study the subject of constitution will come across the term audi alteram partem - meaning to take cognisance and to listen to both sides of the argument. That is the adversarial system of justice that we inherited as a Commonwealth country. The JC obviously forgotten this by refusing representation for the Speaker. His single action now throws the entire Judiciary into disrepute, but I won&#039;t be surprised if he will now be the first on the list of judicial commissioners to be confirmed as a judge as proposed by the Judicial Appointments Commission.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First year law students who study the subject of constitution will come across the term audi alteram partem &#8211; meaning to take cognisance and to listen to both sides of the argument. That is the adversarial system of justice that we inherited as a Commonwealth country. The JC obviously forgotten this by refusing representation for the Speaker. His single action now throws the entire Judiciary into disrepute, but I won&#8217;t be surprised if he will now be the first on the list of judicial commissioners to be confirmed as a judge as proposed by the Judicial Appointments Commission.</p>
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		<title>By: penang308</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/03/06/how-to-judge-the-judge/comment-page-2/#comment-164363</link>
		<dc:creator>penang308</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 12:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A BIGGGGGGGGGGG THANK YOU MR NH CHAN!

This country need EXPERIENCE POEPLE like YOU to check the activities of bn robber(robbing Perakian), thief(corruption) and rapist(rape the CONSTITUTION). 

Keep up the good work AND GOD BLESS YOU!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A BIGGGGGGGGGGG THANK YOU MR NH CHAN!</p>
<p>This country need EXPERIENCE POEPLE like YOU to check the activities of bn robber(robbing Perakian), thief(corruption) and rapist(rape the CONSTITUTION). </p>
<p>Keep up the good work AND GOD BLESS YOU!</p>
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		<title>By: frankyapp</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/03/06/how-to-judge-the-judge/comment-page-2/#comment-164331</link>
		<dc:creator>frankyapp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 08:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh ya to decide who they want to govern them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh ya to decide who they want to govern them.</p>
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		<title>By: frankyapp</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/03/06/how-to-judge-the-judge/comment-page-2/#comment-164330</link>
		<dc:creator>frankyapp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 08:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.wow.wow,rhetoric,hypocrites,scandals,racists,sexis,you name it we have them all.Ha Ha Ha.This is 21st century modern malaysia,a place we all called &quot; our home land&quot;. How many of us paarticularly our politician,judges,monarchs are ashmaed of what&#039;s going on in our country. The world is watching and God is also watching from a distance .The present political scenario is volatile and can burst into a  very catastrophe.I &#039;m appealling all malaysians to come to our full good sense especially,politicians to end this volatile dangerious situation,desolve the Perak state assemby,call for election and let we the rakyat in particular the Perak voters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.wow.wow,rhetoric,hypocrites,scandals,racists,sexis,you name it we have them all.Ha Ha Ha.This is 21st century modern malaysia,a place we all called &#8221; our home land&#8221;. How many of us paarticularly our politician,judges,monarchs are ashmaed of what&#8217;s going on in our country. The world is watching and God is also watching from a distance .The present political scenario is volatile and can burst into a  very catastrophe.I &#8216;m appealling all malaysians to come to our full good sense especially,politicians to end this volatile dangerious situation,desolve the Perak state assemby,call for election and let we the rakyat in particular the Perak voters.</p>
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		<title>By: blablowbla</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/03/06/how-to-judge-the-judge/comment-page-2/#comment-164329</link>
		<dc:creator>blablowbla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 08:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>boh-liao,
How come NR and RM are so coooooool? No action, not even a protest in front of the French Embassy by our usual fast-acting keris-waving, blood-thirsty Umno Youth to demand a public apology from Liberation for slurring the strange couple? No call for boycott of anything French, including French kiss? Where are you, KJ, HH, and MKT? 

=================================================

you know my fren,the UMNO jerks only bully local ppl,when they see european ppl,like for instance jews from israel,their &#039;bola&#039;&#039; will be gone!
they are so feared infront of us,you see some UMNO youths    asking for fight from the Perak raintree   and the group that confronted Karpal Singh incidents,we wonder why how come they never represented malaysia for Olympic boxing,karate,judoh,taekwndo or whatever fighting events,managed to get at least a bronze medal back to  bolehland,  you and i know very well,they are just &quot;Jagong Kampong &quot;,right?

or maybe these thugs went to a wrong profession,instead of becoming gangsters,they joint politic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>boh-liao,<br />
How come NR and RM are so coooooool? No action, not even a protest in front of the French Embassy by our usual fast-acting keris-waving, blood-thirsty Umno Youth to demand a public apology from Liberation for slurring the strange couple? No call for boycott of anything French, including French kiss? Where are you, KJ, HH, and MKT? </p>
<p>=================================================</p>
<p>you know my fren,the UMNO jerks only bully local ppl,when they see european ppl,like for instance jews from israel,their &#8216;bola&#8221; will be gone!<br />
they are so feared infront of us,you see some UMNO youths    asking for fight from the Perak raintree   and the group that confronted Karpal Singh incidents,we wonder why how come they never represented malaysia for Olympic boxing,karate,judoh,taekwndo or whatever fighting events,managed to get at least a bronze medal back to  bolehland,  you and i know very well,they are just &#8220;Jagong Kampong &#8220;,right?</p>
<p>or maybe these thugs went to a wrong profession,instead of becoming gangsters,they joint politic?</p>
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		<title>By: OrangRojak</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/03/06/how-to-judge-the-judge/comment-page-2/#comment-164328</link>
		<dc:creator>OrangRojak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 08:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I decided against posting a comment yesterday about seeking impartial judicial reviews from overseas. The problem with much of what happens in Malaysia is that there&#039;s only one point of view presented to Malaysians. If the NST prints an article about a man in a funny wig saying something, that must be justice - because it looks like justice.

I decided against posting it, because it seemed like a terrible expense. N H Chan is to be commended for providing a local equivalent. Somebody in a position of authority (even if it is retired authority) &lt;b&gt;has&lt;/b&gt; to do the right thing and call a spade a spade.

As for those wronged, isn&#039;t the &#039;right&#039; thing to do to take some sort of civil action against the judge for failing to deliver justice? Perhaps that&#039;s what an appeal is... they&#039;re only human after all, and I do occasionally get a bad nasi ayam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I decided against posting a comment yesterday about seeking impartial judicial reviews from overseas. The problem with much of what happens in Malaysia is that there&#8217;s only one point of view presented to Malaysians. If the NST prints an article about a man in a funny wig saying something, that must be justice &#8211; because it looks like justice.</p>
<p>I decided against posting it, because it seemed like a terrible expense. N H Chan is to be commended for providing a local equivalent. Somebody in a position of authority (even if it is retired authority) <b>has</b> to do the right thing and call a spade a spade.</p>
<p>As for those wronged, isn&#8217;t the &#8216;right&#8217; thing to do to take some sort of civil action against the judge for failing to deliver justice? Perhaps that&#8217;s what an appeal is&#8230; they&#8217;re only human after all, and I do occasionally get a bad nasi ayam.</p>
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