Comments on: Raintree Perak Assembly – Najib’s crisis of legitimacy as 6th PM http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/03/04/raintree-perak-assembly-najibs-crisis-of-legitimacy-as-6th-pm/ for Malaysia Sun, 12 Feb 2012 06:45:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: ekans http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/03/04/raintree-perak-assembly-najibs-crisis-of-legitimacy-as-6th-pm/comment-page-1/#comment-164051 ekans Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:16:22 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=2647#comment-164051 One wonders how this now famous under-the-tree state assembly session can be regarded as a joke, when moments earlier, 28 lawfully elected PR ADUNs were forcefully turned away from the state secretariat building by the police, almost at the point of igniting violence. Using the police to prevent elected representatives of the people from performing their duties of convening an emergency session in the state secretariat building, should already convince the people in not only Perak but also the whole nation, that the UMNO-led BN already has totalitarian aspirations of wresting power from PR without bothering to seek the people's mandate through the ballot box. One wonders how this now famous under-the-tree state assembly session can be regarded as a joke, when moments earlier, 28 lawfully elected PR ADUNs were forcefully turned away from the state secretariat building by the police, almost at the point of igniting violence.
Using the police to prevent elected representatives of the people from performing their duties of convening an emergency session in the state secretariat building, should already convince the people in not only Perak but also the whole nation, that the UMNO-led BN already has totalitarian aspirations of wresting power from PR without bothering to seek the people’s mandate through the ballot box.

]]> By: hanuman http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/03/04/raintree-perak-assembly-najibs-crisis-of-legitimacy-as-6th-pm/comment-page-1/#comment-163980 hanuman Thu, 05 Mar 2009 10:36:27 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=2647#comment-163980 I equate the “raintree Perak State Assembly” to that of the meeting of the Estates-General of 20 June 1789 in a tennis court near the Palace of Versailles in France. From Wikipedia On the morning of 20 June (1789) the deputies were shocked to discover that the doors to their chamber were locked and guarded by soldiers. Immediately fearing the worst and anxious that a royal coup was imminent, the deputies congregated in a nearby indoor real tennis court where they took a solemn collective oath "never to separate, and to meet wherever circumstances demand, until the constitution of the kingdom is established and affirmed on solid foundations". I equate the “raintree Perak State Assembly” to that of the meeting of the Estates-General of 20 June 1789 in a tennis court near the Palace of Versailles in France.

From Wikipedia
On the morning of 20 June (1789) the deputies were shocked to discover that the doors to their chamber were locked and guarded by soldiers. Immediately fearing the worst and anxious that a royal coup was imminent, the deputies congregated in a nearby indoor real tennis court where they took a solemn collective oath “never to separate, and to meet wherever circumstances demand, until the constitution of the kingdom is established and affirmed on solid foundations”.

]]> By: Toyol http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/03/04/raintree-perak-assembly-najibs-crisis-of-legitimacy-as-6th-pm/comment-page-1/#comment-163892 Toyol Thu, 05 Mar 2009 01:43:31 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=2647#comment-163892 UMNO has the police, judiciary, elections commission already in its pocket. They have to resort to such underhanded tactics to remain in power. Thats there interpretation of power sharing! At the end of it all, its the rakyat versus UMNO. MCA and MIC...don't even think you represent the Chinese and Indian communities, because you don't. UMNO has the police, judiciary, elections commission already in its pocket. They have to resort to such underhanded tactics to remain in power. Thats there interpretation of power sharing!

At the end of it all, its the rakyat versus UMNO. MCA and MIC…don’t even think you represent the Chinese and Indian communities, because you don’t.

]]> By: Bigjoe http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/03/04/raintree-perak-assembly-najibs-crisis-of-legitimacy-as-6th-pm/comment-page-1/#comment-163891 Bigjoe Thu, 05 Mar 2009 01:24:35 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=2647#comment-163891 Its not just about lying. The fact of the matter they are lost, they have no idea the difference and more importantly perpective anymore. When Zambry, supposedly a new top leader representing their future, think that being embarassed is MORE important than being illegal, its a sure sign he is lost. BUT when he smiled like he is so smart about it, then he is hopeless. Its a sure sign the future leadership of UMNO is unreliable with flimsy foundation of the basic concept of governance and priorities of this nation. And it all starts with Najib - Najib picked Zambry himself and the pathetic followers is a reflection of the pathetic leader. Najib is in fact a poor leader for the challenges this nation faces now and the future. He just is the wrong guy for the job now. Its not just about lying. The fact of the matter they are lost, they have no idea the difference and more importantly perpective anymore.

When Zambry, supposedly a new top leader representing their future, think that being embarassed is MORE important than being illegal, its a sure sign he is lost. BUT when he smiled like he is so smart about it, then he is hopeless. Its a sure sign the future leadership of UMNO is unreliable with flimsy foundation of the basic concept of governance and priorities of this nation.

And it all starts with Najib – Najib picked Zambry himself and the pathetic followers is a reflection of the pathetic leader. Najib is in fact a poor leader for the challenges this nation faces now and the future. He just is the wrong guy for the job now.

]]> By: sotong http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/03/04/raintree-perak-assembly-najibs-crisis-of-legitimacy-as-6th-pm/comment-page-1/#comment-163883 sotong Thu, 05 Mar 2009 01:00:59 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=2647#comment-163883 Our country has great ordinary people but no great leader/s. Our country has great ordinary people but no great leader/s.

]]> By: anna brella http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/03/04/raintree-perak-assembly-najibs-crisis-of-legitimacy-as-6th-pm/comment-page-1/#comment-163863 anna brella Wed, 04 Mar 2009 21:52:47 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=2647#comment-163863 Remember the brilliant UK Conservative MP John Enoch Powell? Remember that one misjudgement he made by making that controversial "Rivers of Blood" speech on 20 April 1968: "As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding. Like the Roman, I seem to see 'the River Tiber foaming with much blood'. That tragic and intractable phenomenon which we watch with horror on the other side of the Atlantic but which there is interwoven with the history and existence of the States itself, is coming upon us here by our own volition and our own neglect. Indeed, it has all but come. In numerical terms, it will be of American proportions long before the end of the century. Only resolute and urgent action will avert it even now." Powell was sacked from the Shadow cabinet by Edward Heath the day after he made that speech and Powell never held another senior political post after that. Whilst over in Malaysia, a certain high-profile UMNO politician who publicly and threateningly brandished a weapon called a keris, and who ceremoniously vowed while doing so, "to bathe it with the blood of fellow Malaysian citizens" got rewarded for that obscene speech and crass, ill-mannered public exhibitionism by being promoted and promoted and promoted up the hilted ranks to hey presto! DPM and soon to PM. Makes you think, and shudder a little too in your shoes now, doesn't it? "Imagine Power To The People" John Lennon. Remember the brilliant UK Conservative MP John Enoch Powell?

Remember that one misjudgement he made by making that controversial “Rivers of Blood” speech on 20 April 1968:

“As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding. Like the Roman, I seem to see ‘the River Tiber foaming with much blood’. That tragic and intractable phenomenon which we watch with horror on the other side of the Atlantic but which there is interwoven with the history and existence of the States itself, is coming upon us here by our own volition and our own neglect. Indeed, it has all but come. In numerical terms, it will be of American proportions long before the end of the century. Only resolute and urgent action will avert it even now.”

Powell was sacked from the Shadow cabinet by Edward Heath the day after he made that speech and Powell never held another senior political post after that.

Whilst over in Malaysia, a certain high-profile UMNO politician who publicly and threateningly brandished a weapon called a keris, and who ceremoniously vowed while doing so, “to bathe it with the blood of fellow Malaysian citizens” got rewarded for that obscene speech and crass, ill-mannered public exhibitionism by being promoted and promoted and promoted up the hilted ranks to hey presto! DPM and soon to PM.

Makes you think, and shudder a little too in your shoes now, doesn’t it?

“Imagine Power To The People” John Lennon.

]]> By: ekans http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/03/04/raintree-perak-assembly-najibs-crisis-of-legitimacy-as-6th-pm/comment-page-1/#comment-163857 ekans Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:31:58 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=2647#comment-163857 2 UMNO members have already told the media that they were considering getting an injunction to prevent the UMNO AGM from being held unless the UMNO leadership takes real action against money politics, because they both want to save the party from sinking further. Thus, MACC shouldn't simply close the case when there are UMNO members who are willing to desperately take such a drastic action. Unless, of course, MACC was ordered to do so by those who are more powerful than these 2 UMNO members... 2 UMNO members have already told the media that they were considering getting an injunction to prevent the UMNO AGM from being held unless the UMNO leadership takes real action against money politics, because they both want to save the party from sinking further.
Thus, MACC shouldn’t simply close the case when there are UMNO members who are willing to desperately take such a drastic action.
Unless, of course, MACC was ordered to do so by those who are more powerful than these 2 UMNO members…

]]> By: ekans http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/03/04/raintree-perak-assembly-najibs-crisis-of-legitimacy-as-6th-pm/comment-page-1/#comment-163856 ekans Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:15:38 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=2647#comment-163856 The deputy IGP had told the media that the strong police presence at the Perak State Secretariat building was to discourage and disperse any illegal assembly and to ensure smooth road traffic flow. But while it is acceptable for the police to prevent people who have no business there in the first place from mobbing the state secretariat building, why were the PR ADUNs, the people who have business there as the elected representatives of the people of Perak, forcefully prevented by the police from entering the building? While the IGP has given the excuse that the police have no jurisdiction at the Parliament, and thus, could not do anything about the UMNO Youth members who had unlawfully prevented Karpal Singh from entering the Parliament building so that they can harass this MP, how is it that the police suddenly (& conveniently) have jurisdiction at the Perak State Secretariat building to the extent of blocking the PR ADUNs? Zambry, Perak's MB only by the mandate of the BN-UMNO controlled federal govt, naturally told ntv7 news that the under-the-raintree-assembly is an embarassment to our nation. However, 97% of the ntv7 viewers, through a SMS poll, disagree with him. So, why should Zambry still want to believe that he has the support of the people to head the Perak state govt? The deputy IGP had told the media that the strong police presence at the Perak State Secretariat building was to discourage and disperse any illegal assembly and to ensure smooth road traffic flow.
But while it is acceptable for the police to prevent people who have no business there in the first place from mobbing the state secretariat building, why were the PR ADUNs, the people who have business there as the elected representatives of the people of Perak, forcefully prevented by the police from entering the building?
While the IGP has given the excuse that the police have no jurisdiction at the Parliament, and thus, could not do anything about the UMNO Youth members who had unlawfully prevented Karpal Singh from entering the Parliament building so that they can harass this MP, how is it that the police suddenly (& conveniently) have jurisdiction at the Perak State Secretariat building to the extent of blocking the PR ADUNs?

Zambry, Perak’s MB only by the mandate of the BN-UMNO controlled federal govt, naturally told ntv7 news that the under-the-raintree-assembly is an embarassment to our nation. However, 97% of the ntv7 viewers, through a SMS poll, disagree with him.
So, why should Zambry still want to believe that he has the support of the people to head the Perak state govt?

]]> By: LG http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/03/04/raintree-perak-assembly-najibs-crisis-of-legitimacy-as-6th-pm/comment-page-1/#comment-163853 LG Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:52:04 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=2647#comment-163853 MACC should be investigating UMNO from the very top to the bottom. UMNO is corrupt as confirmed by the President, Deputy President, Vice Presidents, Supreme Councils and even the members. Why investigating lembu-lembu and assembly under a tree in an open space where all can see? They have already lost their direction in objective, function and goal. MACC should be investigating UMNO from the very top to the bottom. UMNO is corrupt as confirmed by the President, Deputy President, Vice Presidents, Supreme Councils and even the members. Why investigating lembu-lembu and assembly under a tree in an open space where all can see? They have already lost their direction in objective, function and goal.

]]> By: gyp http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/03/04/raintree-perak-assembly-najibs-crisis-of-legitimacy-as-6th-pm/comment-page-1/#comment-163829 gyp Wed, 04 Mar 2009 15:55:13 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=2647#comment-163829 Answer : AG will take 1 month to write the story..Will call up actors….bla bla bla…….( just to buy time) That is what our government BOLEH!!!. Talking about corrupt productivity…. Answer : AG will take 1 month to write the story..Will call up actors….bla bla bla…….( just to buy time) That is what our government BOLEH!!!. Talking about corrupt productivity….

]]> By: voice out http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/03/04/raintree-perak-assembly-najibs-crisis-of-legitimacy-as-6th-pm/comment-page-1/#comment-163827 voice out Wed, 04 Mar 2009 15:45:16 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=2647#comment-163827 How come when police can immediate take action on Siva Kumar on the ground of the illegal assembly ? What about the attack by the UMNO youth to Karpal Singh ? Every parents will teach their children to behave morally when deal with people ...But it shows that the parents "UMNO" never teach " Youth" about MORALITY.... What is the action need to be taken ? Answer : AG will take 1 month to decide the case..Will call up witness....bla bla bla.......( just to buy time) That is what our government BOLEH!!!. Talking about productivity.... How come when police can immediate take action on Siva Kumar on the ground of the illegal assembly ?

What about the attack by the UMNO youth to Karpal Singh ? Every parents will teach their children to behave morally when deal with people …But it shows that the parents “UMNO” never teach ” Youth” about MORALITY…. What is the action need to be taken ?
Answer : AG will take 1 month to decide the case..Will call up witness….bla bla bla…….( just to buy time) That is what our government BOLEH!!!. Talking about productivity….

]]> By: ENDANGERED HORNBILL http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/03/04/raintree-perak-assembly-najibs-crisis-of-legitimacy-as-6th-pm/comment-page-1/#comment-163821 ENDANGERED HORNBILL Wed, 04 Mar 2009 14:49:45 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=2647#comment-163821 Hey Fellas, enjoy a good laugh at the MACC for cows and cars: Malaysianinsider: "Ahmad Said said the MACC had completed its investigation on claims of money politics in Umno and found no cases so far." UMNO President says UMNO is sick with money politics. UMNO Deputy President says UMNO is saturated with money politics, UMNO Vice-Presidents say UMNO is corrupted by money politics. UMNO Supreme Council says UMNO members will die becos of money politics. UMNO memebers say UMNO is nothing but money politics. Now MACC says UMNO is clean and has no money politics. Now we know why MACC is for cows. Hey Fellas, enjoy a good laugh at the MACC for cows and cars:

Malaysianinsider: “Ahmad Said said the MACC had completed its investigation on claims of money politics in Umno and found no cases so far.”

UMNO President says UMNO is sick with money politics.
UMNO Deputy President says UMNO is saturated with money politics,
UMNO Vice-Presidents say UMNO is corrupted by money politics.
UMNO Supreme Council says UMNO members will die becos of money politics.
UMNO memebers say UMNO is nothing but money politics.

Now MACC says UMNO is clean and has no money politics.

Now we know why MACC is for cows.

]]> By: comingto50 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/03/04/raintree-perak-assembly-najibs-crisis-of-legitimacy-as-6th-pm/comment-page-1/#comment-163820 comingto50 Wed, 04 Mar 2009 14:37:41 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=2647#comment-163820 When sit back you look at the whole event you will notice this. "There's this poor chap being bounded in the hands and legs and cannot move or run is being slapped, punched and kicked repeatedly. Then when the chap moved his head to avoid a punch the bully then screamed, yelled and complaint that the poor chap is cheating!!!" When sit back you look at the whole event you will notice this.

“There’s this poor chap being bounded in the hands and legs and cannot move or run is being slapped, punched and kicked repeatedly. Then when the chap moved his head to avoid a punch the bully then screamed, yelled and complaint that the poor chap is cheating!!!”

]]> By: cyfm http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/03/04/raintree-perak-assembly-najibs-crisis-of-legitimacy-as-6th-pm/comment-page-1/#comment-163819 cyfm Wed, 04 Mar 2009 14:34:22 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=2647#comment-163819 Hey, any body can take a photo of the historic raintree and print it on bookmark, greeting card, post cards, hat or T-shirt, etc and sell to the whole Malaysian or maybe the whole world so can raise some fund for DAP?? Hey, any body can take a photo of the historic raintree and print it on bookmark, greeting card, post cards, hat or T-shirt, etc and sell to the whole Malaysian or maybe the whole world so can raise some fund for DAP??

]]> By: gyp http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/03/04/raintree-perak-assembly-najibs-crisis-of-legitimacy-as-6th-pm/comment-page-1/#comment-163818 gyp Wed, 04 Mar 2009 14:33:37 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=2647#comment-163818 I won’t be surprised if UMNO decide to take revenge against the justice. Now the justice has shown the people how beastly and abominable the BN government has descended into. They are so evil that they will destroy everything that are not to their liking. So the justice will be the natural victim of UMNO vindictiveness and barbarity. Just wait and see. I won’t be surprised if UMNO decide to take revenge against the justice. Now the justice has shown the people how beastly and abominable the BN government has descended into. They are so evil that they will destroy everything that are not to their liking. So the justice will be the natural victim of UMNO vindictiveness and barbarity.

Just wait and see.

]]> By: fairvoice http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/03/04/raintree-perak-assembly-najibs-crisis-of-legitimacy-as-6th-pm/comment-page-1/#comment-163809 fairvoice Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:24:26 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=2647#comment-163809 Police only wanted to allow speaker Siva into the guarded secretariat building to trap and kidnap him, similar to Bala's case. So please safeguard the precious speaker. Imagine with Siva missing its free for all for UMNO and BN and everthing is possible for the crooks!!!! No matter what please don't allow Siva alone anywhere without trusted body guards. Police only wanted to allow speaker Siva into the guarded secretariat building to trap and kidnap him, similar to Bala’s case. So please safeguard the precious speaker. Imagine with Siva missing its free for all for UMNO and BN and everthing is possible for the crooks!!!! No matter what please don’t allow Siva alone anywhere without trusted body guards.

]]> By: vsp http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/03/04/raintree-perak-assembly-najibs-crisis-of-legitimacy-as-6th-pm/comment-page-1/#comment-163808 vsp Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:17:44 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=2647#comment-163808 I won't be surprised if UMNO decide to take revenge against the raintree. Now the raintree has shown the people how beastly and abominable the BN government has descended into. They are so evil that they will destroy everything that are not to their liking. So the raintree will be the natural victim of UMNO vindictiveness and barbarity. Just wait and see. I won’t be surprised if UMNO decide to take revenge against the raintree. Now the raintree has shown the people how beastly and abominable the BN government has descended into. They are so evil that they will destroy everything that are not to their liking. So the raintree will be the natural victim of UMNO vindictiveness and barbarity.

Just wait and see.

]]> By: highhand http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/03/04/raintree-perak-assembly-najibs-crisis-of-legitimacy-as-6th-pm/comment-page-1/#comment-163806 highhand Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:53:56 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=2647#comment-163806 what is the point of being too romantic about the rain tree? very certain it will be chopped down and bulldozed over sivakumar, now u have the court, police, macc chasing your ass soon the irb will also take a bite. good luck what is the point of being too romantic about the rain tree?
very certain it will be chopped down and bulldozed over

sivakumar, now u have the court, police, macc chasing your ass
soon the irb will also take a bite.

good luck

]]> By: boh-liao http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/03/04/raintree-perak-assembly-najibs-crisis-of-legitimacy-as-6th-pm/comment-page-1/#comment-163805 boh-liao Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:26:18 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=2647#comment-163805 Is there anyone or any system that we can trust in Malaysia? The police? The doctor? Visit Malaysia Today to read: "Kugan’s death: what the Pathologist discovered" http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/18824/84/ How come the first pathologist who did the first post-mortem did not discover what the second pathologist at UMMC discovered? <b>Is human life so cheap in Malaysia? Is our BN government only concerned about what happened in the Guantánamo Bay Detention Camp? Everything in Malaysia, OK?</b><b></b> Is there anyone or any system that we can trust in Malaysia?
The police? The doctor?

Visit Malaysia Today to read:
“Kugan’s death: what the Pathologist discovered”
http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/18824/84/

How come the first pathologist who did the first post-mortem did not discover what the second pathologist at UMMC discovered?

Is human life so cheap in Malaysia? Is our BN government only concerned about what happened in the Guantánamo Bay Detention Camp? Everything in Malaysia, OK?

]]> By: dharmicgirl http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/03/04/raintree-perak-assembly-najibs-crisis-of-legitimacy-as-6th-pm/comment-page-1/#comment-163804 dharmicgirl Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:24:40 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=2647#comment-163804 Please speak for the Rakyat, Tuanku Sultan ! The state needs a re-elction. If you truly care for the rakyat,now is the time to get out of silence. Vote for 'dissolution' ! Daulat Tuanku! Please speak for the Rakyat, Tuanku Sultan !
The state needs a re-elction. If you truly care for the rakyat,now is the time to get out of silence. Vote for ‘dissolution’ !
Daulat Tuanku!

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