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		<title>By: the slyoldfox his old trick. again with new sidekick,latest propaganda chief, Rais Yatim, is happily playing along with this pathetic proposition claiming that unfavourable international comment on the elevation of Najib Abdul Razak to prime minister is s</title>
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		<dc:creator>the slyoldfox his old trick. again with new sidekick,latest propaganda chief, Rais Yatim, is happily playing along with this pathetic proposition claiming that unfavourable international comment on the elevation of Najib Abdul Razak to prime minister is s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 17:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] can secure the mandate to govern the state through a new state wide elections and not through the “biggest political robbery” in the history of Perak and Malaysia. Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)THE GOOD [...]</description>
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		<title>By: the slyoldfox his old trick. again with new sidekick,latest propaganda chief, Rais Yatim, is happily playing along with this pathetic proposition claiming that unfavourable international comment on the elevation of Najib Abdul Razak to prime minister is s</title>
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		<dc:creator>the slyoldfox his old trick. again with new sidekick,latest propaganda chief, Rais Yatim, is happily playing along with this pathetic proposition claiming that unfavourable international comment on the elevation of Najib Abdul Razak to prime minister is s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 16:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: anna brella</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/02/27/foul-is-fair-fair-is-foul%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-malaysian-politics-getting-uglier-by-the-day-as-najib-gets-close-to-be-pm/comment-page-2/#comment-163205</link>
		<dc:creator>anna brella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Onlooker Politics:  Thank you for taking the time to answer my open question here.  

I am however, very surprised to learn from the answer that Hishammuddin Hussein has a law qualification under his belt.

How does that (qualification/learning) square up with his alleged misunderstanding/misinterpretation of clear-cut and obvious constitutional law principles when constitutional/public law is, I believe, a compulsory subject that all law students need to take and pass at the intermediate stage before progressing to sitting their finals and obtaining a full legal qualification?

Or could that fundamental misunderstanding of basic legal principles be a result of a politician ignoring/overriding the legal understanding that he must possess as a qualified lawyer? 

&quot;Imagine Power To The People&quot; John Lennon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Onlooker Politics:  Thank you for taking the time to answer my open question here.  </p>
<p>I am however, very surprised to learn from the answer that Hishammuddin Hussein has a law qualification under his belt.</p>
<p>How does that (qualification/learning) square up with his alleged misunderstanding/misinterpretation of clear-cut and obvious constitutional law principles when constitutional/public law is, I believe, a compulsory subject that all law students need to take and pass at the intermediate stage before progressing to sitting their finals and obtaining a full legal qualification?</p>
<p>Or could that fundamental misunderstanding of basic legal principles be a result of a politician ignoring/overriding the legal understanding that he must possess as a qualified lawyer? </p>
<p>&#8220;Imagine Power To The People&#8221; John Lennon.</p>
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		<title>By: ekans</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/02/27/foul-is-fair-fair-is-foul%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-malaysian-politics-getting-uglier-by-the-day-as-najib-gets-close-to-be-pm/comment-page-2/#comment-163164</link>
		<dc:creator>ekans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Orang Asli community of Kampung Sungai Peroh are bumiputeras, too. So, how can a bumiputera politician, who also claims to be defending bumiputera rights, go back on his election promise to these Orang Asli?
But, of course, he&#039;s actually an umnoputra, bent on only helping other umnoputras...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Orang Asli community of Kampung Sungai Peroh are bumiputeras, too. So, how can a bumiputera politician, who also claims to be defending bumiputera rights, go back on his election promise to these Orang Asli?<br />
But, of course, he&#8217;s actually an umnoputra, bent on only helping other umnoputras&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Onlooker Politics</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/02/27/foul-is-fair-fair-is-foul%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-malaysian-politics-getting-uglier-by-the-day-as-najib-gets-close-to-be-pm/comment-page-2/#comment-163162</link>
		<dc:creator>Onlooker Politics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What other relevant expertise/skill does he possess which would qualify him for that important leading educative role-model position?&quot;  (anna brella)

Hishammuddin Hussein is the World Renown No. 1 CELAKA Champion (besides his academic qualification as a lawyer by profession and his official capacity as an Educational Minister) who would teach the Malaysian people to interpret the Special Court clauses of the Federal Constitution of Malaysia in accordance with &quot;Hikayat Hang Tuah&quot;  (The Story of Hang Tuah - a book of Ancient Malay Feudalistic Controversies) but not in accordance with the Constitutionality of the Law.  For instance, Hishammuddin wrongfully accused Karpal Singh for committing treason and sedition when Karpal Singh only voiced out his professional opinion about the viability of filing a lawsuit against the Perak Sultan in order to seek judicial review on the constitutionality of His Royal Highness&#039;s decison to dismiss Nizar from the post of the Menteri Besar of Perak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What other relevant expertise/skill does he possess which would qualify him for that important leading educative role-model position?&#8221;  (anna brella)</p>
<p>Hishammuddin Hussein is the World Renown No. 1 CELAKA Champion (besides his academic qualification as a lawyer by profession and his official capacity as an Educational Minister) who would teach the Malaysian people to interpret the Special Court clauses of the Federal Constitution of Malaysia in accordance with &#8220;Hikayat Hang Tuah&#8221;  (The Story of Hang Tuah &#8211; a book of Ancient Malay Feudalistic Controversies) but not in accordance with the Constitutionality of the Law.  For instance, Hishammuddin wrongfully accused Karpal Singh for committing treason and sedition when Karpal Singh only voiced out his professional opinion about the viability of filing a lawsuit against the Perak Sultan in order to seek judicial review on the constitutionality of His Royal Highness&#8217;s decison to dismiss Nizar from the post of the Menteri Besar of Perak.</p>
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		<title>By: ktteokt</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/02/27/foul-is-fair-fair-is-foul%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-malaysian-politics-getting-uglier-by-the-day-as-najib-gets-close-to-be-pm/comment-page-2/#comment-163155</link>
		<dc:creator>ktteokt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Tun just wants the best of both worlds! First he removes the sultan&#039;s immunity to legal suits, now he asks his son to accuse Karpal of &quot;derhaka&quot;, making him look so divine and so loyal to the sultan! Hippocrite!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Tun just wants the best of both worlds! First he removes the sultan&#8217;s immunity to legal suits, now he asks his son to accuse Karpal of &#8220;derhaka&#8221;, making him look so divine and so loyal to the sultan! Hippocrite!</p>
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		<title>By: anna brella</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/02/27/foul-is-fair-fair-is-foul%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-malaysian-politics-getting-uglier-by-the-day-as-najib-gets-close-to-be-pm/comment-page-2/#comment-163043</link>
		<dc:creator>anna brella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Hishammuddin Hussein is perceived to be allegedly dim-witted or even prone to making serious errors of judgement (justifiably perhaps due to the bizarrely well honed and openly demonstrated ability within UMNO Youth members to shoot their own foot better than anyone else) then what&#039;s he doing in that government function where he now is?

What other relevant expertise/skill does he possess which would qualify him for that important leading educative role-model position?

&quot;Imagine Power To The People&quot; John Lennon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Hishammuddin Hussein is perceived to be allegedly dim-witted or even prone to making serious errors of judgement (justifiably perhaps due to the bizarrely well honed and openly demonstrated ability within UMNO Youth members to shoot their own foot better than anyone else) then what&#8217;s he doing in that government function where he now is?</p>
<p>What other relevant expertise/skill does he possess which would qualify him for that important leading educative role-model position?</p>
<p>&#8220;Imagine Power To The People&#8221; John Lennon.</p>
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		<title>By: ENDANGERED HORNBILL</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/02/27/foul-is-fair-fair-is-foul%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-malaysian-politics-getting-uglier-by-the-day-as-najib-gets-close-to-be-pm/comment-page-2/#comment-163041</link>
		<dc:creator>ENDANGERED HORNBILL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 15:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never cared tuppence for Kerismuddin&#039;s character or brains; it&#039;s so paltry I would be ashamed to engage him.

Sorry Keris, you are just way too dim-witted to be in the shadows of your illustrious father &amp; grandfather. As to hoping to be DPM when yr cousin, Najib creeps intot he PM seat, weelll..that would be real bad news for a blind Malaysia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never cared tuppence for Kerismuddin&#8217;s character or brains; it&#8217;s so paltry I would be ashamed to engage him.</p>
<p>Sorry Keris, you are just way too dim-witted to be in the shadows of your illustrious father &amp; grandfather. As to hoping to be DPM when yr cousin, Najib creeps intot he PM seat, weelll..that would be real bad news for a blind Malaysia.</p>
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		<title>By: ALtPJK</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/02/27/foul-is-fair-fair-is-foul%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-malaysian-politics-getting-uglier-by-the-day-as-najib-gets-close-to-be-pm/comment-page-2/#comment-162969</link>
		<dc:creator>ALtPJK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 06:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is NOW meaningless to make temporal reference to AAB&#039;s  remaining days as PM when discussing events in Malaysia.  Rather, it should be more pertinent to relate events to the period leading up to wannabe&#039;s ascension to the coveted position.
  
Barring any sting in the tail over the next few weeks, AAB had  been and will continue to be of no consequence.  It is the  anticipation and implications of wannabe&#039;s presiding at the helm  that a vast majority of right thinking Malaysians have grave concerns about.  We can also bank on the assumption that  wannabe too is well aware of this himself and would take the necessary measures to bolster both his position and public perception.

It would not be surprising then to witness events, both desperate  as well as bizzare, taking place in bolehland.  Do we need anyone to hint to us of any conspired effort by various groups to create the currrent milieu of intrigue and subterfuge? 

You would recall that on more than one occasion last year  effective curfews had been imposed around Parliament House (PH)  to prevent public (for beneficial purpose or otherwise) from being  in or near the premise.  Wasn&#039;t the public banned from PH sometime in May 2008? Wasn&#039;t DSAI at one time prevented from  being within 5km radius of PH?  If it was effective then why NOT this time?  

Why was the administration and security of PH very effective in barricading and herding journalists last year and yet turned completely oblivious to the fracas?

YB LKS, you have on many occasions raised this issue of mockery  of Parliament but in days of desperation, mockery is definitely not high on their worry list.  This cannot be better and more aptly demonstrated than the recent hosting by Malaysian of the 54th  Commonwealth Parliamentary Conference on “Expanding the role  of Parliament in global society” on August 1 – 10, 2008 DESPITE the role of Malaysian MPs are being diminished when they cannot even move an amendment to the Motion of Thanks for Royal Address.

It would be a ground-breaking event if Parliament could wield its  powers via provisions of Houses of Parliament (Privileges and  Powers) Act 1952 to take necessary action on Keris Champion and his boys for such violation of the sanctity of Parliament.  Or do Keris Champion and his boys have Special Rights?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is NOW meaningless to make temporal reference to AAB&#8217;s  remaining days as PM when discussing events in Malaysia.  Rather, it should be more pertinent to relate events to the period leading up to wannabe&#8217;s ascension to the coveted position.</p>
<p>Barring any sting in the tail over the next few weeks, AAB had  been and will continue to be of no consequence.  It is the  anticipation and implications of wannabe&#8217;s presiding at the helm  that a vast majority of right thinking Malaysians have grave concerns about.  We can also bank on the assumption that  wannabe too is well aware of this himself and would take the necessary measures to bolster both his position and public perception.</p>
<p>It would not be surprising then to witness events, both desperate  as well as bizzare, taking place in bolehland.  Do we need anyone to hint to us of any conspired effort by various groups to create the currrent milieu of intrigue and subterfuge? </p>
<p>You would recall that on more than one occasion last year  effective curfews had been imposed around Parliament House (PH)  to prevent public (for beneficial purpose or otherwise) from being  in or near the premise.  Wasn&#8217;t the public banned from PH sometime in May 2008? Wasn&#8217;t DSAI at one time prevented from  being within 5km radius of PH?  If it was effective then why NOT this time?  </p>
<p>Why was the administration and security of PH very effective in barricading and herding journalists last year and yet turned completely oblivious to the fracas?</p>
<p>YB LKS, you have on many occasions raised this issue of mockery  of Parliament but in days of desperation, mockery is definitely not high on their worry list.  This cannot be better and more aptly demonstrated than the recent hosting by Malaysian of the 54th  Commonwealth Parliamentary Conference on “Expanding the role  of Parliament in global society” on August 1 – 10, 2008 DESPITE the role of Malaysian MPs are being diminished when they cannot even move an amendment to the Motion of Thanks for Royal Address.</p>
<p>It would be a ground-breaking event if Parliament could wield its  powers via provisions of Houses of Parliament (Privileges and  Powers) Act 1952 to take necessary action on Keris Champion and his boys for such violation of the sanctity of Parliament.  Or do Keris Champion and his boys have Special Rights?</p>
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		<title>By: Onlooker Politics</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/02/27/foul-is-fair-fair-is-foul%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-malaysian-politics-getting-uglier-by-the-day-as-najib-gets-close-to-be-pm/comment-page-2/#comment-162960</link>
		<dc:creator>Onlooker Politics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 05:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Referring to Raja Nazrin Shah&#039;s calls for the rule of law to be upheld (Malaysian Insider, Feb 27 2009), I believe most Malaysian people who believe in the system of Constitutional Monarchy with Parliamentary Democracy modelled after the Westminster&#039;s style will agree with him.

However, it is sad for us to find that majority of the Malaysian people are only literate to read &quot;Hikayat Hang Tuah&quot;  (The Story of Hang Tuah).  Most of them don&#039;t know how to read a common English newspaper like New Strait Times or The Star.  How do we expect these common people to understand what has been written in our Federal Constitution or the State Constitution?

We do not practice a set of straight forward, clearly interpreted Continental Laws.  Most our laws are common laws being derived from case laws.  If there is any Constitutional Crisis, the Judiary Branch of the Government should quickly step in to intervene.  The hearing of the case of Nizar versus Zambry should be carried out quickly.  Justice delay is justice denied.  In event of happening of a Constitutional Crisis, the judicial review shall be the only solution for all parties concerned. 

The Judiciary Branch as represented by the Federal Court shall be made SUPREME over the Executive Branch and the Legislature Branch of the government.  This is the essence of the Concept of Separation of Powers among the government branches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Referring to Raja Nazrin Shah&#8217;s calls for the rule of law to be upheld (Malaysian Insider, Feb 27 2009), I believe most Malaysian people who believe in the system of Constitutional Monarchy with Parliamentary Democracy modelled after the Westminster&#8217;s style will agree with him.</p>
<p>However, it is sad for us to find that majority of the Malaysian people are only literate to read &#8220;Hikayat Hang Tuah&#8221;  (The Story of Hang Tuah).  Most of them don&#8217;t know how to read a common English newspaper like New Strait Times or The Star.  How do we expect these common people to understand what has been written in our Federal Constitution or the State Constitution?</p>
<p>We do not practice a set of straight forward, clearly interpreted Continental Laws.  Most our laws are common laws being derived from case laws.  If there is any Constitutional Crisis, the Judiary Branch of the Government should quickly step in to intervene.  The hearing of the case of Nizar versus Zambry should be carried out quickly.  Justice delay is justice denied.  In event of happening of a Constitutional Crisis, the judicial review shall be the only solution for all parties concerned. </p>
<p>The Judiciary Branch as represented by the Federal Court shall be made SUPREME over the Executive Branch and the Legislature Branch of the government.  This is the essence of the Concept of Separation of Powers among the government branches.</p>
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		<title>By: Onlooker Politics</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/02/27/foul-is-fair-fair-is-foul%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-malaysian-politics-getting-uglier-by-the-day-as-najib-gets-close-to-be-pm/comment-page-2/#comment-162955</link>
		<dc:creator>Onlooker Politics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 04:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kerismuddin&#039;s father was the promoter of &quot;Rukun Tetangga&quot;  (Neighbourhood Principles), whereas Kerismuddin himself is the promoter of &quot;Rukun Tertumbok&quot; (Boxing Principles).

Surely there wouldn&#039;t be any slight similarities between the father and the son, not to mention his respectable grandfather who believed in only One Malaysian Race for all peoples of Malaysia!  It is really a big shame on Kerismuddin!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kerismuddin&#8217;s father was the promoter of &#8220;Rukun Tetangga&#8221;  (Neighbourhood Principles), whereas Kerismuddin himself is the promoter of &#8220;Rukun Tertumbok&#8221; (Boxing Principles).</p>
<p>Surely there wouldn&#8217;t be any slight similarities between the father and the son, not to mention his respectable grandfather who believed in only One Malaysian Race for all peoples of Malaysia!  It is really a big shame on Kerismuddin!</p>
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		<title>By: One4All4One</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/02/27/foul-is-fair-fair-is-foul%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-malaysian-politics-getting-uglier-by-the-day-as-najib-gets-close-to-be-pm/comment-page-2/#comment-162954</link>
		<dc:creator>One4All4One</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 04:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have many malay friends. I can say that many of them with whom I talk about anything and everything under the sun, agree with karpal&#039;s outburst against the insolent umno youth and deserve to be labeled as celaka.

They knew karpal did not aim his disgust at the malays at large. In fact I find my malay friends to be likeable, modest, understanding and very open minded indeed.

Their demeanour does not in any manner resemble those projected by the bunch of arrogant umno bigots/ umno youths. 

So one can deduce that the malays in general are good natured and friendly people, unlike that bunch of self-serving, arrogant, opportunistic, spineless, cunning, treacherous, conniving, selfish, dishonest umno/umno youths.

Like karpal said, we should not have time for those juvenile politicians. Perhaps he sould have added &#039;delinquent&#039; to juvenile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have many malay friends. I can say that many of them with whom I talk about anything and everything under the sun, agree with karpal&#8217;s outburst against the insolent umno youth and deserve to be labeled as celaka.</p>
<p>They knew karpal did not aim his disgust at the malays at large. In fact I find my malay friends to be likeable, modest, understanding and very open minded indeed.</p>
<p>Their demeanour does not in any manner resemble those projected by the bunch of arrogant umno bigots/ umno youths. </p>
<p>So one can deduce that the malays in general are good natured and friendly people, unlike that bunch of self-serving, arrogant, opportunistic, spineless, cunning, treacherous, conniving, selfish, dishonest umno/umno youths.</p>
<p>Like karpal said, we should not have time for those juvenile politicians. Perhaps he sould have added &#8216;delinquent&#8217; to juvenile.</p>
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		<title>By: Onlooker Politics</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/02/27/foul-is-fair-fair-is-foul%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-malaysian-politics-getting-uglier-by-the-day-as-najib-gets-close-to-be-pm/comment-page-2/#comment-162949</link>
		<dc:creator>Onlooker Politics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 03:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Kerismuddin&#039;s credibility in his promise to the people of his constituency is also questionable, how do we expect him to be able to utter any words which will appear to be fair to both Mr Karpal and the Umno Youth Amok?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Kerismuddin&#8217;s credibility in his promise to the people of his constituency is also questionable, how do we expect him to be able to utter any words which will appear to be fair to both Mr Karpal and the Umno Youth Amok?</p>
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		<title>By: Onlooker Politics</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/02/27/foul-is-fair-fair-is-foul%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-malaysian-politics-getting-uglier-by-the-day-as-najib-gets-close-to-be-pm/comment-page-2/#comment-162946</link>
		<dc:creator>Onlooker Politics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 03:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Kerismuddin can’t even get close to the respect that the people have had for his father and grandfather.&quot;  (Godfather)

Very accurate comment on Kerismuddin.  If anybody wants to get a double confirmation on the truth of this comment, then please go visit an Orang Asli village in Johor called Kampung  Sungai Peroh. (It is located next to Sembrong River on the way from Kahang to Kampung Peta of Taman Negara Endau-Rompin.)  The Orang Asli there would tell you how they had been cheated with their votes in the 2004 General Election.  The Orang Asli villagers were promised with a 6 kilometres tar road in front of the village but only 16 metres tar road had been delivered at the living compound of the Batin (tribal head).  The Batin was very angry about this fraud because it was meant to disgrace the Batin and was an attempt to defame him for &quot;makan duit&quot; in order to cut down his influence among his tribal people. 

However, the Orang Asli villagers knew that who was the true culprit behind this plot and they would never pay true respect from the bottom of their heart to Kerismuddin, even though they might continue to receive financial aids from the JHEOA!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Kerismuddin can’t even get close to the respect that the people have had for his father and grandfather.&#8221;  (Godfather)</p>
<p>Very accurate comment on Kerismuddin.  If anybody wants to get a double confirmation on the truth of this comment, then please go visit an Orang Asli village in Johor called Kampung  Sungai Peroh. (It is located next to Sembrong River on the way from Kahang to Kampung Peta of Taman Negara Endau-Rompin.)  The Orang Asli there would tell you how they had been cheated with their votes in the 2004 General Election.  The Orang Asli villagers were promised with a 6 kilometres tar road in front of the village but only 16 metres tar road had been delivered at the living compound of the Batin (tribal head).  The Batin was very angry about this fraud because it was meant to disgrace the Batin and was an attempt to defame him for &#8220;makan duit&#8221; in order to cut down his influence among his tribal people. </p>
<p>However, the Orang Asli villagers knew that who was the true culprit behind this plot and they would never pay true respect from the bottom of their heart to Kerismuddin, even though they might continue to receive financial aids from the JHEOA!</p>
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		<title>By: taiking</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/02/27/foul-is-fair-fair-is-foul%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-malaysian-politics-getting-uglier-by-the-day-as-najib-gets-close-to-be-pm/comment-page-2/#comment-162941</link>
		<dc:creator>taiking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 02:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tuan McBullys are real experts in dragging everything and everyone (and lembus too) into politics so long as they reckon doing so would either advance their cause or derail their opponent&#039;s cause. Poor Daniel Li of HK ICAC too was dragged into the scene by them. Come on what can he say when asked for his opinion on the new anti-corruption Act and what else can he say when he was asked again recently on the four corrupt idiots charged under the mcaa? We may be mere Hamba deBullys but we are not stupid!

And look. Karpal is wheelchair bound. Dont they know this? He is no more than three and half feet tall for goodness sake. And he is one fella who does not reply to adverse responses with words like &quot;I deny&quot; or &quot;I have been misquoted&quot; or &quot;I have been misinterprated&quot; or &quot;I have been misunderstood&quot; or &quot;My remarks have been quoted out of context&quot; etc. etc. And and he will not run away and go in hiding.

The point is there is really no necessity to mount a mob confrontation with the man just like those mat rempits who encircle their victims with a large number of motorcycles and who then terrify their victims into submission by their unruly and violent behaviour. The world of ICT is fast pace and fast moving. The world of umno and umnoputras is just as fast pace and fast moving. Tuan McBully is a name which I think could not now quite adequately describe them. A modification is needed and I now call them Tuan Rempit McBully or T.R. McBully.

Then again arent they all products of umno&#039;s (-)meritocracy system? Yeah. Arent they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tuan McBullys are real experts in dragging everything and everyone (and lembus too) into politics so long as they reckon doing so would either advance their cause or derail their opponent&#8217;s cause. Poor Daniel Li of HK ICAC too was dragged into the scene by them. Come on what can he say when asked for his opinion on the new anti-corruption Act and what else can he say when he was asked again recently on the four corrupt idiots charged under the mcaa? We may be mere Hamba deBullys but we are not stupid!</p>
<p>And look. Karpal is wheelchair bound. Dont they know this? He is no more than three and half feet tall for goodness sake. And he is one fella who does not reply to adverse responses with words like &#8220;I deny&#8221; or &#8220;I have been misquoted&#8221; or &#8220;I have been misinterprated&#8221; or &#8220;I have been misunderstood&#8221; or &#8220;My remarks have been quoted out of context&#8221; etc. etc. And and he will not run away and go in hiding.</p>
<p>The point is there is really no necessity to mount a mob confrontation with the man just like those mat rempits who encircle their victims with a large number of motorcycles and who then terrify their victims into submission by their unruly and violent behaviour. The world of ICT is fast pace and fast moving. The world of umno and umnoputras is just as fast pace and fast moving. Tuan McBully is a name which I think could not now quite adequately describe them. A modification is needed and I now call them Tuan Rempit McBully or T.R. McBully.</p>
<p>Then again arent they all products of umno&#8217;s (-)meritocracy system? Yeah. Arent they?</p>
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		<title>By: passerby</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/02/27/foul-is-fair-fair-is-foul%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-malaysian-politics-getting-uglier-by-the-day-as-najib-gets-close-to-be-pm/comment-page-2/#comment-162940</link>
		<dc:creator>passerby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 02:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kerismuddin will be remembered as the man holding the keris threatening the chinese.  He is a celaka no doubt!</description>
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		<title>By: Godfather</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/02/27/foul-is-fair-fair-is-foul%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-malaysian-politics-getting-uglier-by-the-day-as-najib-gets-close-to-be-pm/comment-page-2/#comment-162939</link>
		<dc:creator>Godfather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 02:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kerismuddin can&#039;t even get close to the respect that the people have had for his father and grandfather.  There is no statesmanship in this guy.  Sad, isn&#039;t it ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kerismuddin can&#8217;t even get close to the respect that the people have had for his father and grandfather.  There is no statesmanship in this guy.  Sad, isn&#8217;t it ?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/02/27/foul-is-fair-fair-is-foul%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-malaysian-politics-getting-uglier-by-the-day-as-najib-gets-close-to-be-pm/comment-page-2/#comment-162937</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 01:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not having “touched” Karpal &amp; wheel chair is pathetic excuse by Selangor UMNO Youth leaders.

The duo organised something on last Thursday that they never knew the implications and consequences. Now knowing a bit more, they said it was an Opposition MP who started the ruckus by pushing them.

That’s of course poor excuse.

The gathering itself of 22 itself was an illegal assembly in the supposedly sancrosanct precints of Parliament, supposedly the bastion of whatever left of democarcy in the country!

Behaviour of the mob was squarely within offence in section 9(e) of Houses of Parliament (Privileges and Powers) Act 1952 : “assaulting, obstructing, or insulting any member coming to or going from the House or on account of his conduct in the House or endeavouring to compel any member by force, insult, or menace to declare himself in favour of or against any proposition or matter pending or expected to be brought before the House” – operative words “obstructing”. 

The group of 22 by their presence obstructing Karpal from going to Dewan Rakyat presented a clear threat and intimidation. 

Even component party MCA hit at this “kind of behaviour or mob rule” as “destroying country’s image” – MCA Information &amp; Communication Bureau Chairman Lee vWei Kiat  N14 of The Star, 28th Feb.   

It was serious enough for Minister from PM’s Dept Nazri to table a motion for a 8 man investigation team to recommend appropriate action.

The two Selangor UMNO Youth leaders are on their own. 

Minister, Hishammuddin Hussein should know that theirs is a lost cause. His excusing of their behaviour by criticisms of Karpal (see todays NST) forgets that nothing justifies this kind of mob behaviour on the door steps of Parliament.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not having “touched” Karpal &amp; wheel chair is pathetic excuse by Selangor UMNO Youth leaders.</p>
<p>The duo organised something on last Thursday that they never knew the implications and consequences. Now knowing a bit more, they said it was an Opposition MP who started the ruckus by pushing them.</p>
<p>That’s of course poor excuse.</p>
<p>The gathering itself of 22 itself was an illegal assembly in the supposedly sancrosanct precints of Parliament, supposedly the bastion of whatever left of democarcy in the country!</p>
<p>Behaviour of the mob was squarely within offence in section 9(e) of Houses of Parliament (Privileges and Powers) Act 1952 : “assaulting, obstructing, or insulting any member coming to or going from the House or on account of his conduct in the House or endeavouring to compel any member by force, insult, or menace to declare himself in favour of or against any proposition or matter pending or expected to be brought before the House” – operative words “obstructing”. </p>
<p>The group of 22 by their presence obstructing Karpal from going to Dewan Rakyat presented a clear threat and intimidation. </p>
<p>Even component party MCA hit at this “kind of behaviour or mob rule” as “destroying country’s image” – MCA Information &amp; Communication Bureau Chairman Lee vWei Kiat  N14 of The Star, 28th Feb.   </p>
<p>It was serious enough for Minister from PM’s Dept Nazri to table a motion for a 8 man investigation team to recommend appropriate action.</p>
<p>The two Selangor UMNO Youth leaders are on their own. </p>
<p>Minister, Hishammuddin Hussein should know that theirs is a lost cause. His excusing of their behaviour by criticisms of Karpal (see todays NST) forgets that nothing justifies this kind of mob behaviour on the door steps of Parliament.</p>
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		<title>By: Bigjoe</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/02/27/foul-is-fair-fair-is-foul%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-malaysian-politics-getting-uglier-by-the-day-as-najib-gets-close-to-be-pm/comment-page-2/#comment-162933</link>
		<dc:creator>Bigjoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 00:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So here the latest excuse of this:

1) They did not touch Karpal
2) How would Karpal like it if they call him celaka Singh?

On 1) IF the concept of attempted assault, which is criminal, escapes these people, does their opinion of anything really count? Again, it only proves Karpal point they are really damned (celaka).

On 2) Sticks and stones may break Karpal&#039;s bone but words especially unfounded ones will slide off him...Karpal&#039;s point really was if his labelling was unfounded, it should not have matter to them..You can see how Karpal is smiling as their reference to this is just sliding off and makes absolutely no sense to anyone else but their too-long twisted minds...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So here the latest excuse of this:</p>
<p>1) They did not touch Karpal<br />
2) How would Karpal like it if they call him celaka Singh?</p>
<p>On 1) IF the concept of attempted assault, which is criminal, escapes these people, does their opinion of anything really count? Again, it only proves Karpal point they are really damned (celaka).</p>
<p>On 2) Sticks and stones may break Karpal&#8217;s bone but words especially unfounded ones will slide off him&#8230;Karpal&#8217;s point really was if his labelling was unfounded, it should not have matter to them..You can see how Karpal is smiling as their reference to this is just sliding off and makes absolutely no sense to anyone else but their too-long twisted minds&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: HJ Angus</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/02/27/foul-is-fair-fair-is-foul%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-malaysian-politics-getting-uglier-by-the-day-as-najib-gets-close-to-be-pm/comment-page-2/#comment-162927</link>
		<dc:creator>HJ Angus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 00:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think provoking people with suggestings of arson and C4 helps in this discussion.
It could just trigger some crazy people to do just that. Suggest admin should delete such incendiary comments or at least admonish such people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think provoking people with suggestings of arson and C4 helps in this discussion.<br />
It could just trigger some crazy people to do just that. Suggest admin should delete such incendiary comments or at least admonish such people.</p>
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