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		<title>By: Loh</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/01/28/what-are-you-waiting-for-macc/comment-page-2/#comment-157081</link>
		<dc:creator>Loh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>///Can we trust PDRM and MACC?
Who is safe in this country?///--- bho-liao

The powers-that-be and those under their protection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>///Can we trust PDRM and MACC?<br />
Who is safe in this country?///&#8212; bho-liao</p>
<p>The powers-that-be and those under their protection.</p>
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		<title>By: Godfather</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/01/28/what-are-you-waiting-for-macc/comment-page-2/#comment-157038</link>
		<dc:creator>Godfather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anwar also wants Jeffrey to talk to BN component parties about democracy.  Talk to Ong Ta Kut about why he is sidelining a democratically elected deputy.  Talk to Semi value about his &quot;democratic&quot; elections.  Talk to UMNO too about their use of MACC and the Police for their own ends.

&quot;undemocratic&quot; is a word for people who doesn&#039;t know which side they are on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anwar also wants Jeffrey to talk to BN component parties about democracy.  Talk to Ong Ta Kut about why he is sidelining a democratically elected deputy.  Talk to Semi value about his &#8220;democratic&#8221; elections.  Talk to UMNO too about their use of MACC and the Police for their own ends.</p>
<p>&#8220;undemocratic&#8221; is a word for people who doesn&#8217;t know which side they are on.</p>
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		<title>By: Godfather</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/01/28/what-are-you-waiting-for-macc/comment-page-2/#comment-157035</link>
		<dc:creator>Godfather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anwar&#039;s answer to Jeffrey would be short and simple:  I have a full coterie of lawyers to advise me, so you better start assuming that I know what I am doing, rather than assuming that I don&#039;t know what I am doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anwar&#8217;s answer to Jeffrey would be short and simple:  I have a full coterie of lawyers to advise me, so you better start assuming that I know what I am doing, rather than assuming that I don&#8217;t know what I am doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/01/28/what-are-you-waiting-for-macc/comment-page-2/#comment-156993</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are two constitutional  provisons presently arrayed against the  proposed anti-hopping law. 

The first provision is Article 10(1)(c) on  Freedom of Association. In 1992, when a PAS MP hopped over to BN, the High Court declared the anti-hop law unconstitutional as it went against the Freedom of Association.

Any attempt to resign as MP in order to re–contest by-election on  the other side’s ticket confronts the second obstacle in Article 48(6) which provides that a person who resigns his membership of the House of Representatives shall, for a period of five years beginning with the date on which his resignation takes effect, be disqualified from being a member of the House of Representatives…

For so long as these two provisions are not amended, the anti-hopping law can neither be legislated nor will it work!

So, without such anti hopping law, and by reason of Article 48(6), prevailing  practice of political defector is not to resign as MP (even though he won this ticket under the auspices of  the party that he is leaving) but just cross over to the other side,  without  having to seek fresh mandate from voters of that constitutency in a by- election as suggested by DAP’s Lim  Guan  Eng.

What should be noted is that Anwar Ibrahim’s current to canvass cross-overs &amp; defections to  topple the BN is based on this prevailing deplorable practice stated  in preceding  paragraph. 

DAP national vice chairman Tunku Abdul Aziz Ibrahim has criticized Anwar’s methods/ strategy that goes against the grain of  what Lim Guan Eng  said. 

This is because such political defections actively canvassed by him are contrary to democratic precepts requiring the defector to first resign to re-seek fresh mandate from a by – election (which admittedly is presently not possible without constitutional amendment/anti hopping law in place). 

It is not as if Anwar is pushing for constitutional amendments and antihopping law to be passed before he em barks on canvassing for defections. He is doing well before constitutional amendments and antihopping law - which makes current defections canvassed by  him indefensible !               

I  criticise Anwar not only because his strategy of toppling BN by prevailing practice of political crossovers is undemocratic.

I question whether he  knew what he was doing because the MACC newly enacted (esp  section 16(b)) changes the whole complexion of elements within such political defections from the undemocratic to (arguably) the criminal/corrupt. He neither serves the cause of  his own family, Pakatan Rakyat or the Country if, in the rush to topple the other side and secure power fast, he is unconcerned about the risks of being entrapped under the draconian provisions of MACC. 

I don&#039;t understand why some of you would so quickly defend him from criticisms in this respect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are two constitutional  provisons presently arrayed against the  proposed anti-hopping law. </p>
<p>The first provision is Article 10(1)(c) on  Freedom of Association. In 1992, when a PAS MP hopped over to BN, the High Court declared the anti-hop law unconstitutional as it went against the Freedom of Association.</p>
<p>Any attempt to resign as MP in order to re–contest by-election on  the other side’s ticket confronts the second obstacle in Article 48(6) which provides that a person who resigns his membership of the House of Representatives shall, for a period of five years beginning with the date on which his resignation takes effect, be disqualified from being a member of the House of Representatives…</p>
<p>For so long as these two provisions are not amended, the anti-hopping law can neither be legislated nor will it work!</p>
<p>So, without such anti hopping law, and by reason of Article 48(6), prevailing  practice of political defector is not to resign as MP (even though he won this ticket under the auspices of  the party that he is leaving) but just cross over to the other side,  without  having to seek fresh mandate from voters of that constitutency in a by- election as suggested by DAP’s Lim  Guan  Eng.</p>
<p>What should be noted is that Anwar Ibrahim’s current to canvass cross-overs &amp; defections to  topple the BN is based on this prevailing deplorable practice stated  in preceding  paragraph. </p>
<p>DAP national vice chairman Tunku Abdul Aziz Ibrahim has criticized Anwar’s methods/ strategy that goes against the grain of  what Lim Guan Eng  said. </p>
<p>This is because such political defections actively canvassed by him are contrary to democratic precepts requiring the defector to first resign to re-seek fresh mandate from a by – election (which admittedly is presently not possible without constitutional amendment/anti hopping law in place). </p>
<p>It is not as if Anwar is pushing for constitutional amendments and antihopping law to be passed before he em barks on canvassing for defections. He is doing well before constitutional amendments and antihopping law &#8211; which makes current defections canvassed by  him indefensible !               </p>
<p>I  criticise Anwar not only because his strategy of toppling BN by prevailing practice of political crossovers is undemocratic.</p>
<p>I question whether he  knew what he was doing because the MACC newly enacted (esp  section 16(b)) changes the whole complexion of elements within such political defections from the undemocratic to (arguably) the criminal/corrupt. He neither serves the cause of  his own family, Pakatan Rakyat or the Country if, in the rush to topple the other side and secure power fast, he is unconcerned about the risks of being entrapped under the draconian provisions of MACC. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand why some of you would so quickly defend him from criticisms in this respect.</p>
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		<title>By: Godfather</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/01/28/what-are-you-waiting-for-macc/comment-page-2/#comment-156976</link>
		<dc:creator>Godfather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Guan Eng is reported to have said that there should be a byelection to allow those who want to defect to another party to first resign and re-contest the same seat.&quot;

LGE is absolutely right.  It is not about the principle of crossovers.  It is all about bankrupting BN through a series of by-elections where everyone - the voters, the constituency, the Opposition - wins but the corrupt BN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Guan Eng is reported to have said that there should be a byelection to allow those who want to defect to another party to first resign and re-contest the same seat.&#8221;</p>
<p>LGE is absolutely right.  It is not about the principle of crossovers.  It is all about bankrupting BN through a series of by-elections where everyone &#8211; the voters, the constituency, the Opposition &#8211; wins but the corrupt BN.</p>
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		<title>By: cemerlang</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/01/28/what-are-you-waiting-for-macc/comment-page-2/#comment-156965</link>
		<dc:creator>cemerlang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember once when the gomen said that anything above RM 500 is considered corruption ? Then what about between 1 sen to RM 499.99 ? That is the mentality of what some people think of corruption. Then, what sort of standard do Malaysians want ? Totally completely zero sen corruption or somehow you allow some tiny hanky panky business to continue ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember once when the gomen said that anything above RM 500 is considered corruption ? Then what about between 1 sen to RM 499.99 ? That is the mentality of what some people think of corruption. Then, what sort of standard do Malaysians want ? Totally completely zero sen corruption or somehow you allow some tiny hanky panky business to continue ?</p>
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		<title>By: monsterball</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/01/28/what-are-you-waiting-for-macc/comment-page-1/#comment-156923</link>
		<dc:creator>monsterball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeffery can twist and turn as much as he likes.
He is right by saying Anwar advantage may turn to be disadvantage.
How concern and wise he is..for Anwar. Is this real?
Day by day..Anwar have the People&#039;s Power behind him...vast majority of Malaysian voters solidly supporting  him...and growing.
It is not like before. The moment UMNO tries to find faults with Anwar...UMNO is at the disadvantage....not Anwar.
UMNO is at the lowest...and Awanr can be trusted....not UMNO.
He will not be afraid to talk ..act..for Malaysians..and if he does keep quiet..it is also his concern for peaceful situation.. in Malaysia.
One need to be very truthful and clear...UMNO is the one...who is afraid to loose control of the government....and those days of bullying...creating fears will not work.
Anwar  will be PM...jail or free man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeffery can twist and turn as much as he likes.<br />
He is right by saying Anwar advantage may turn to be disadvantage.<br />
How concern and wise he is..for Anwar. Is this real?<br />
Day by day..Anwar have the People&#8217;s Power behind him&#8230;vast majority of Malaysian voters solidly supporting  him&#8230;and growing.<br />
It is not like before. The moment UMNO tries to find faults with Anwar&#8230;UMNO is at the disadvantage&#8230;.not Anwar.<br />
UMNO is at the lowest&#8230;and Awanr can be trusted&#8230;.not UMNO.<br />
He will not be afraid to talk ..act..for Malaysians..and if he does keep quiet..it is also his concern for peaceful situation.. in Malaysia.<br />
One need to be very truthful and clear&#8230;UMNO is the one&#8230;who is afraid to loose control of the government&#8230;.and those days of bullying&#8230;creating fears will not work.<br />
Anwar  will be PM&#8230;jail or free man.</p>
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		<title>By: boh-liao</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/01/28/what-are-you-waiting-for-macc/comment-page-1/#comment-156915</link>
		<dc:creator>boh-liao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now even Umnoputra Halimi Kamaruzzaman from Maran alleged that he was abused during his detention at the MACC Pahang headquarters in Kuantan.
Can we trust PDRM and MACC?
Who is safe in this country?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now even Umnoputra Halimi Kamaruzzaman from Maran alleged that he was abused during his detention at the MACC Pahang headquarters in Kuantan.<br />
Can we trust PDRM and MACC?<br />
Who is safe in this country?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/01/28/what-are-you-waiting-for-macc/comment-page-1/#comment-156878</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Typo error - &quot;crossovers of BN political defactors&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typo error &#8211; &#8220;crossovers of BN political defactors&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/01/28/what-are-you-waiting-for-macc/comment-page-1/#comment-156877</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The DAP is not exactly in favour of Anwar’s strategy of courting crossovers of BN political factors.

The DAP secretary-general Lim Guan Eng is in favour of amending the Constitution to provide for legislation of anti hopping law. Guan Eng is reported to have said that there should be a byelection to allow those who want to defect to another party to first resign and re-contest the same seat.

See news report in The Star Published on Thursday January 29, 2009 by Zulkifly Mohamad under caption “Guan Eng: Need for anti-hopping law”.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The DAP is not exactly in favour of Anwar’s strategy of courting crossovers of BN political factors.</p>
<p>The DAP secretary-general Lim Guan Eng is in favour of amending the Constitution to provide for legislation of anti hopping law. Guan Eng is reported to have said that there should be a byelection to allow those who want to defect to another party to first resign and re-contest the same seat.</p>
<p>See news report in The Star Published on Thursday January 29, 2009 by Zulkifly Mohamad under caption “Guan Eng: Need for anti-hopping law”.</p>
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		<title>By: mauriyaII</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/01/28/what-are-you-waiting-for-macc/comment-page-1/#comment-156876</link>
		<dc:creator>mauriyaII</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; What is the MACC waiting for? 

For guidance of course! Which of the corrupted small monkeys to prosecute and which of the big monkeys under the protective umbrella of BN NOT to prosecute.

Maybe, just maybe they are waiting for the big shot who ordered:
1. the erasure of the immigration records of Altantuya and
2. the execution of Altantuya and
3. with specific instructions as to the execution process that 
4. she be shot and then her body blown to bits with C4 and
5. who might have been instrumental to put the fear in PI Bala to disappear or be C4d into oblivion. 

The above are not just speculative theories but based on questions that to date have not been answered. 

The PDRM which should have made a thorough and impartial investigation at arriving at the true nature of that dastardly crime seem to be more interested in putting up road blocks, arresting ordinary citizens, brutalizing detainees in police lockups which have resulted in more than 1500 deaths since 2003. 

Under these circumstances MACC might be just waiting for THAT MAN with tons of absolute power to give them a call or a sms. 

MACC should for once show that it is part of the rakyat of this country and go on a rampage and arrest all the corrupted ones in power and especially the person who is exercising ABSOLUTE POWER on life and death.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; What is the MACC waiting for? </p>
<p>For guidance of course! Which of the corrupted small monkeys to prosecute and which of the big monkeys under the protective umbrella of BN NOT to prosecute.</p>
<p>Maybe, just maybe they are waiting for the big shot who ordered:<br />
1. the erasure of the immigration records of Altantuya and<br />
2. the execution of Altantuya and<br />
3. with specific instructions as to the execution process that<br />
4. she be shot and then her body blown to bits with C4 and<br />
5. who might have been instrumental to put the fear in PI Bala to disappear or be C4d into oblivion. </p>
<p>The above are not just speculative theories but based on questions that to date have not been answered. </p>
<p>The PDRM which should have made a thorough and impartial investigation at arriving at the true nature of that dastardly crime seem to be more interested in putting up road blocks, arresting ordinary citizens, brutalizing detainees in police lockups which have resulted in more than 1500 deaths since 2003. </p>
<p>Under these circumstances MACC might be just waiting for THAT MAN with tons of absolute power to give them a call or a sms. </p>
<p>MACC should for once show that it is part of the rakyat of this country and go on a rampage and arrest all the corrupted ones in power and especially the person who is exercising ABSOLUTE POWER on life and death.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/01/28/what-are-you-waiting-for-macc/comment-page-1/#comment-156852</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 05:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The truly credible may not of course want you as a client whatever the fee you pay since you would want him to advocate along lines that are in accord with your sentiments even if it may lose the case, in impairment of his reputation/standing. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The truly credible may not of course want you as a client whatever the fee you pay since you would want him to advocate along lines that are in accord with your sentiments even if it may lose the case, in impairment of his reputation/standing. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/01/28/what-are-you-waiting-for-macc/comment-page-1/#comment-156850</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 05:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Monsterball monsterball in his posting Today at 10: 04.03 (3 hours ago) said &quot;it is easy to judge and comment.That is exactly what Jeffery is doing…to Anwar Ibrahim&quot; and then asked me, &quot;Why can’t Anwar apply his political advantages…when he has the opportunity…Jeffery?&quot;

My short anwer is that what appears like &quot;political advantages&quot; may actually turn out to be political disadvantages if they could put him away for corruption under MACC Act for active poaching of political defections - read my preceding posting Today at 12: 57.55 (8 minutes ago). 

&quot;I would have fired my lawyer a long time ago if he crapshoots like this&quot; - Godfather, that is if you can find a credible lawyer in the first place or know the difference between a credible one or not so credible one, since the credible one, to you, is one who agrees with you! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monsterball monsterball in his posting Today at 10: 04.03 (3 hours ago) said &#8220;it is easy to judge and comment.That is exactly what Jeffery is doing…to Anwar Ibrahim&#8221; and then asked me, &#8220;Why can’t Anwar apply his political advantages…when he has the opportunity…Jeffery?&#8221;</p>
<p>My short anwer is that what appears like &#8220;political advantages&#8221; may actually turn out to be political disadvantages if they could put him away for corruption under MACC Act for active poaching of political defections &#8211; read my preceding posting Today at 12: 57.55 (8 minutes ago). </p>
<p>&#8220;I would have fired my lawyer a long time ago if he crapshoots like this&#8221; &#8211; Godfather, that is if you can find a credible lawyer in the first place or know the difference between a credible one or not so credible one, since the credible one, to you, is one who agrees with you! :)</p>
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		<title>By: Godfather</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/01/28/what-are-you-waiting-for-macc/comment-page-1/#comment-156848</link>
		<dc:creator>Godfather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 05:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Sometimes you need to be sophisticated in your thinking and not to be of a one-track mind.&quot; vsp said of the crapshooter.

Nah, he doesn&#039;t have a one-track mind, he has two tracks but then the twain shall never meet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sometimes you need to be sophisticated in your thinking and not to be of a one-track mind.&#8221; vsp said of the crapshooter.</p>
<p>Nah, he doesn&#8217;t have a one-track mind, he has two tracks but then the twain shall never meet.</p>
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		<title>By: Godfather</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/01/28/what-are-you-waiting-for-macc/comment-page-1/#comment-156847</link>
		<dc:creator>Godfather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 05:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely” – as it has happened in BN’s case, it could happen to PR if we’re not vigilant.....&quot;  

Since Jeffrey has openly admitted that corruption has occurred absolutely in BN&#039;s case, then why the doublespeak about not giving PR the chance to show what it can do ? 

As I said before, lawyers who say &quot;on the one hand it is this, and on the other hand it is that&quot;  end up holding only one thing in both hands - and that one thing ends up getting beaten all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely” – as it has happened in BN’s case, it could happen to PR if we’re not vigilant&#8230;..&#8221;  </p>
<p>Since Jeffrey has openly admitted that corruption has occurred absolutely in BN&#8217;s case, then why the doublespeak about not giving PR the chance to show what it can do ? </p>
<p>As I said before, lawyers who say &#8220;on the one hand it is this, and on the other hand it is that&#8221;  end up holding only one thing in both hands &#8211; and that one thing ends up getting beaten all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Godfather</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/01/28/what-are-you-waiting-for-macc/comment-page-1/#comment-156846</link>
		<dc:creator>Godfather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 05:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...may....all too easily lead to...&quot;

&quot;...often...pave the way easier to...&quot;

&quot;...could happen to PR....&quot;

&quot;...may be implicated in abetment....&quot;

&quot;...may run foul....&quot;

I would have fired my lawyer a long time ago if he crapshoots like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;may&#8230;.all too easily lead to&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;often&#8230;pave the way easier to&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;could happen to PR&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;may be implicated in abetment&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;may run foul&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>I would have fired my lawyer a long time ago if he crapshoots like this.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/01/28/what-are-you-waiting-for-macc/comment-page-1/#comment-156844</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 04:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to waterfrontcoolie’s posting at 36:51, yes, we’re all aware of the imperatives why Anwar/PR would want to wrest power via political defections rather than wait for next general elections : eg. BN could resolve, with time, their factionalism and unite aginst Opposition; govt. could withhold, starve PR controlled states of the much needed federal/development funds; opposition heads could be harassed, as happened last year with Anwar charged for consensual sodomy, Teresa Kok detained under ISA for her own “protection” and so on.

This has to be balanced against the other reality that active poaching of BN crossovers/defectors may run foul of the draconian MACC Act, in particular section 16(b).

YB Kit, all you have to do is to check with your DAP legal advisers if it is true that active poaching of BN defectors constitutes a corrupt act under MACC.

If so, it is so easy to extinguish Pakatan Rakyat and its cause.
All one has to do on BN’s side is to plant an agent provocateur, a divisional head or something, to talk terms and reciprocal rewards, whether financial or in kind by way of posts and positions within PKR that would constitute “gratification” for defecting with Anwar….

After that report him (Anwar) to MACC…

This would nail him more securely and credibly than the consensual sodomy charges that public do not believe : but when it comes to poaching BN defectors everyone will believe – in fact he is the one who tells everyone of his intentions yet unrealised! 

Agent provocateur whose role is to entrap by engaging in the transaction covered by MACC is immune from prosecution under the MACC Act! Fgor any financial consideration or otherwise Kataks who have no principles will spill their negotiations with Anwar to the MACC commissioner and yet enjoy immunity.

Don’t forget the quickest way to neutralise Pakatan Rakyat is to put away the man who welds disparate groups of Pakatan Rakyat together by a corruption charge.

MACC is draconian and gives a different complexion to the entire equation of crossovers.

There is no better way to neutralise Pakatan Rakyat and its cause by implicating the man who holds it together away on a charge of corruption under the MACC – what other better excuse/justification, since Pakatan Rakyat’s supporters &amp; BN detractors complain corruption as main malaise of the ruling coalition? 

Only blind supporters whose vision does not extend beyond the distance between the eye and tip of nose would not see this coming! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to waterfrontcoolie’s posting at 36:51, yes, we’re all aware of the imperatives why Anwar/PR would want to wrest power via political defections rather than wait for next general elections : eg. BN could resolve, with time, their factionalism and unite aginst Opposition; govt. could withhold, starve PR controlled states of the much needed federal/development funds; opposition heads could be harassed, as happened last year with Anwar charged for consensual sodomy, Teresa Kok detained under ISA for her own “protection” and so on.</p>
<p>This has to be balanced against the other reality that active poaching of BN crossovers/defectors may run foul of the draconian MACC Act, in particular section 16(b).</p>
<p>YB Kit, all you have to do is to check with your DAP legal advisers if it is true that active poaching of BN defectors constitutes a corrupt act under MACC.</p>
<p>If so, it is so easy to extinguish Pakatan Rakyat and its cause.<br />
All one has to do on BN’s side is to plant an agent provocateur, a divisional head or something, to talk terms and reciprocal rewards, whether financial or in kind by way of posts and positions within PKR that would constitute “gratification” for defecting with Anwar….</p>
<p>After that report him (Anwar) to MACC…</p>
<p>This would nail him more securely and credibly than the consensual sodomy charges that public do not believe : but when it comes to poaching BN defectors everyone will believe – in fact he is the one who tells everyone of his intentions yet unrealised! </p>
<p>Agent provocateur whose role is to entrap by engaging in the transaction covered by MACC is immune from prosecution under the MACC Act! Fgor any financial consideration or otherwise Kataks who have no principles will spill their negotiations with Anwar to the MACC commissioner and yet enjoy immunity.</p>
<p>Don’t forget the quickest way to neutralise Pakatan Rakyat is to put away the man who welds disparate groups of Pakatan Rakyat together by a corruption charge.</p>
<p>MACC is draconian and gives a different complexion to the entire equation of crossovers.</p>
<p>There is no better way to neutralise Pakatan Rakyat and its cause by implicating the man who holds it together away on a charge of corruption under the MACC – what other better excuse/justification, since Pakatan Rakyat’s supporters &amp; BN detractors complain corruption as main malaise of the ruling coalition? </p>
<p>Only blind supporters whose vision does not extend beyond the distance between the eye and tip of nose would not see this coming! :)</p>
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		<title>By: dawsheng</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/01/28/what-are-you-waiting-for-macc/comment-page-1/#comment-156840</link>
		<dc:creator>dawsheng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 04:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>”…..The people should not regard criminals as heroes and the police who enforce the law as demons….”

Our policeman has the license to kill, period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>”…..The people should not regard criminals as heroes and the police who enforce the law as demons….”</p>
<p>Our policeman has the license to kill, period.</p>
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		<title>By: dawsheng</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/01/28/what-are-you-waiting-for-macc/comment-page-1/#comment-156839</link>
		<dc:creator>dawsheng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 04:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Q: Is the MACC focused on cleaning up Umno?

A: Not just Umno, please be clear about that. We will take action against any political party involved in corruption. It seems that way only because it is now Umno season. The party itself asked us for help.&quot;

Uncle Kit, are you going to ask MACC for helps when it is DAP season?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Q: Is the MACC focused on cleaning up Umno?</p>
<p>A: Not just Umno, please be clear about that. We will take action against any political party involved in corruption. It seems that way only because it is now Umno season. The party itself asked us for help.&#8221;</p>
<p>Uncle Kit, are you going to ask MACC for helps when it is DAP season?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/01/28/what-are-you-waiting-for-macc/comment-page-1/#comment-156837</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The danger is that when one keeps overarching focus on the ends/objective (ostensibly to capture and return power to the people) and start making compromises in one’s means/methods (eg. canvassing &amp; soliciting political defections without too much concern for the motivations of defections or whether one gets implicated in acts that border on corruption) just to accelerate the getting of the numbers as soon as possible), it may, as experience will teach us, all too easily lead to the means over taking and subverting the ends itself. 

Compromise to, and reluctance to draw the line on certain principles often pave the way easier to make more compromises down the slippery slope. 

Just like sex, it gets easier after the first time, and if one is not vigilant to draw a line may lead to promiscuity and debauchery.                         

Especially what is fought for is over power, and we’ re reminded of Lord Acton’s dictum, “Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely”  – as it has happened in BN’s case, it could happen to PR if we’re not vigilant about its method of securing power via political defections of BN’s politicians having their seats on B N’s ticket. 

I have taken pains in above posting to show how PR in soliciting, conducing, facilitating crossovers may be implicated in abetment of transactions which may come under the wide and uncertain purview of MACC Act.

One will recall Tunku Abdul Aziz Ibrahim Malaysia’s most famous crusader for integrity and transparency [formerly vice chairman of Transparency International and founder President of the Kuala Lumpur Society for Transparency and Integrity, the Malaysian Chapter of Transparency International] and now DAP national vice chairman is on record for being dead set against Anwar’s gambit of securing political defections as means to securing earlier power. 

One also recalls none of the DAP’s stalwarts including YB Kit Siang or Karpal Singh have publicly endorsed or commended this pl an/method of Anwar though, in interest  of  PR’s unity, they do not publicly oppose or criticize it, and hence are deemed  to acquiesce that which they cannot change even if they have preferred so. 

Silence/acquiescence is not approval, endorsement or blessing.      

On Perak defections readers may read this report by The Malaysia Insider at this link: http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/malaysia/16939-defection-prompts-tajol-to-quit-as-perak-umno-boss-soon   

One interesting excerpt in  the article is this comment : “The veteran Perak leader has seen his influence diminish when he was moved from the Parit parliament seat constituency to the Bota state seat in the last elections. While he won the state seat, he lost his Felcra chairmanship, a position normally given to an MP.”
                     l</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The danger is that when one keeps overarching focus on the ends/objective (ostensibly to capture and return power to the people) and start making compromises in one’s means/methods (eg. canvassing &amp; soliciting political defections without too much concern for the motivations of defections or whether one gets implicated in acts that border on corruption) just to accelerate the getting of the numbers as soon as possible), it may, as experience will teach us, all too easily lead to the means over taking and subverting the ends itself. </p>
<p>Compromise to, and reluctance to draw the line on certain principles often pave the way easier to make more compromises down the slippery slope. </p>
<p>Just like sex, it gets easier after the first time, and if one is not vigilant to draw a line may lead to promiscuity and debauchery.                         </p>
<p>Especially what is fought for is over power, and we’ re reminded of Lord Acton’s dictum, “Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely”  – as it has happened in BN’s case, it could happen to PR if we’re not vigilant about its method of securing power via political defections of BN’s politicians having their seats on B N’s ticket. </p>
<p>I have taken pains in above posting to show how PR in soliciting, conducing, facilitating crossovers may be implicated in abetment of transactions which may come under the wide and uncertain purview of MACC Act.</p>
<p>One will recall Tunku Abdul Aziz Ibrahim Malaysia’s most famous crusader for integrity and transparency [formerly vice chairman of Transparency International and founder President of the Kuala Lumpur Society for Transparency and Integrity, the Malaysian Chapter of Transparency International] and now DAP national vice chairman is on record for being dead set against Anwar’s gambit of securing political defections as means to securing earlier power. </p>
<p>One also recalls none of the DAP’s stalwarts including YB Kit Siang or Karpal Singh have publicly endorsed or commended this pl an/method of Anwar though, in interest  of  PR’s unity, they do not publicly oppose or criticize it, and hence are deemed  to acquiesce that which they cannot change even if they have preferred so. </p>
<p>Silence/acquiescence is not approval, endorsement or blessing.      </p>
<p>On Perak defections readers may read this report by The Malaysia Insider at this link: <a href="http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/malaysia/16939-defection-prompts-tajol-to-quit-as-perak-umno-boss-soon" rel="nofollow">http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/malaysia/16939-defection-prompts-tajol-to-quit-as-perak-umno-boss-soon</a>   </p>
<p>One interesting excerpt in  the article is this comment : “The veteran Perak leader has seen his influence diminish when he was moved from the Parit parliament seat constituency to the Bota state seat in the last elections. While he won the state seat, he lost his Felcra chairmanship, a position normally given to an MP.”<br />
                     l</p>
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