Letters
by Jonathan Tan
It has now been 51 years since independence, and although it was predominantly a Malay Archipelago, immigrants who had to work the land during the British colonial era; by default became citizens after Malaya attained independence in 1957.
Much was promised. Equal rights to jobs, educational and business opportunities. But all this came to naught in 1969 when Tunku Abdul Rahman, Malaysia’ founding father, was unceremoniously sent into early retirement and hawks like Razak and Harun took over and used Malay special rights as their vehicle to build a corrupted society that saw the division between the have and have nots widen.
The process took a turn for the worse during the Mahathir era when he hand picked cronies to award contracts and kept privatized entities such as the Governments’ GLC’s in the government’s stables, obviating the very reason to privatize these entities.
Till this day, these organizations show neither discernible accountability nor transparency. The country bleeds like a wounded kancil.
The situation has become even more tenuous with the serious deterioration of educational standards, where instead of English, Malay was used as the medium of instruction in a multiracial ex-British colony of 300 years, further condemning the country’s young to an educational exposure far less then the previous generation had received all in the name of Malay nationalism and supremacy.
UMNO and Mahathir labeled Malaysia even Islamic with non-Malays forced to take Islamic studies at Universities. The 1957 dream was dead. For Malaysians were not equal neither in the eyes of the government nor the law. You can be a Muslim but you can never unMuslim yourself, so body snatching becomes a norm at funerals by overzealous religious authorities.
In 1957, the MIC and MCA were the designated community guardians to ensure minority rights were protected. But they did not only not protect their communities; they joined UMNO in pursuit of wealth many times for their own personal being at the expense of the rights of their communities.
As a Chinese or Indian Malaysian, you are now a second class citizen in this country born 51 years ago, left betrayed, unprotected and to fend for themselves on their own. Muslim Indonesians and Filipinos are made to feel welcome. Many get citizenships ostensibly to increase the Muslim majority.
But our guardians, MCA and MIC, still looked on squeezing it’s minorities virtually to leave this country. So that promise of 1957 was made to be broken. Or was it sabotaged along the way with the help of the MCA, MIC and later Gerakan.
Governance of the former Federated states had changed hands from our British colonial masters to UMNO. And no one was going to do anything about it.
Enter the Pakatan Rakyat. An inexperienced alternative composite of disparate parties who have significantly changed the political landscape. In the states of Penang, Perak and Selangor, they are beginning to show that even inexperienced administrators, given time may be able to deliver.
PAS on the hand appears fixated on relatively petty matters such as Islamic law when economy, education and health should be right on top of the agenda. But mathematically it is not possible for PAS to ever pass these laws.
Even, if they tried, the reassuring pronouncements of Karpal Singh has brought immense confidence to people like me , that in the event that PAS trys to pull a fast one, the DAP will pull out of the coalition causing the fragmentation and fall of the Federal government if they happen to form one.
This confidence far outstrips the current and ongoing blatant sell out of their communities by the MIC and MCA to UMNO, not that race based politics matter anymore.
Yes as a Chinese, I will vote in PAS anytime, anywhere in this country, because with the Pakatan Rakyat I can rest assured that the law as spelled out in our constitution will reign supreme, and pretenders like PAS will be stopped right in their tracks by the DAP unlike the shenanigans at the MIC and MCA who have now brought minorities to their knees by deceiving them of their rights by colluding with UMNO.
It was the British spy; Harold Philby who once said that “To betray you must first belong.” By belonging, the MCA, MIC and Gerakan have never hesitated for a minute to make full use of their belonging to betray and condemn their communities to a bleak and uncertain future.
#1 by computation on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 5:28 am
cintanegara
you see in malaysia it is not
difficult to see people from “minority
groups” flying fighter jets because maybe they
is a shortage of people from the “majority
group” who can.
we certainly don’t want expensive aeroplanes
to be falling out of the sky do we?
perhaps in that tiny red dot there is no
shortage among the “majority group” there
who can…
#2 by computation on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 5:35 am
cintanegara says
“The other country does it well too to minority ethnic….They
have been systematically marginalized and discriminated by the
Government ….Look at their present Government….only 1 minister
from a particular ethnic, despite having a composition of 14% of
the country population….”
the fact that the minority group only have
1 minister in the government does not mean
they are marginalized and discriminated against.
it just means the minority group there doesn’t have
more people of the calibre suitable to serve
in the cabinet. the malay minister in question
in the singapore cabinet has a phd from standford.
the rest of the singapore cabinet is filled with
people who are no less intelligent. the finance
and law ministers are of tamil or indian origin.
considering that these are very important ministries
in fact the top two most important ministries.
and the indians are also in the minority there
i see no evidence that the tiny red dot practises
discrimination. i assure you the chinese
in singapore are more fair minded then the malays
in power in malaysia.
#3 by computation on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 5:36 am
erm stanford… engineering degree…
#4 by computation on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 5:39 am
erm
considering that these are very important ministries
in fact the top two most important ministries along with
fact that the indians are also in the minority there…
#5 by computation on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 5:42 am
i also assure you that in that tiny red dot,
should a chinese make remarks about running
a malay through with a sword he will be dealt with
most severely by the prime minister of that little
tiny weeny red dot.
#6 by computation on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 5:43 am
erm
the fact that the minority group only has…
#7 by computation on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 5:43 am
erm
the fact that a certain minority group only has…
#8 by computation on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 5:46 am
i wonder if malaysia will have
a non-malay finance or law minister again…
cintanegara respond!
#9 by computation on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 6:12 am
oh i forgot to mention
in that inconsequential tiny
red dot one of the deputy prime
ministers is from a “minority group”
malaysia?? and is the malaysian deputy minister
one in whom malaysians can take pride in?
come on lah…
#10 by computation on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 6:31 am
oh whilst we are about it
perhaps malaysia can have a non-malay
deputy prime minister?
#11 by Jeffrey on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 6:41 am
American Chinese author Lin Yutang once wrote that God created humans with a bottomless pit- their stomachs. Many take this as a more particular reference to the Chinese who love their food. For last two weeks of KT by election campaign, many Chinese in Kuala Terrengganu gained a bit of weigh t as they were taken to gastronomic heights by the endless cycle of dinners thrown by the MCA/Gerakan and the DAP.
The menu of BN parties’ dinners was a better fare: crystal prawns, “kampung chicken” etc with “ang pows” for CNY from the hosts. The DAP’s dinners were humbler (which is understandable) and instead of getting ang pows, guests were invited on voluntary basis to make donations, if they wished, which many enthusiastically donated, some from a portion of the proceeds from the MCA angpows!
The 2631 majority votes that PAS candidate garnered would have been more if the by election were not held two weeks from CNY. Many of the young working in cities and towns who would otherwise have given their votes to the Opposition did not go back to KT to vote. This is because they would be going back anyway on C NY to see their parents/folks and it made no sense to go back “ twice”, once for the by-election, then another time, a week or so later for CNY!
Pete (RPK) would run his own survey on the ground with Malay folks. He approached an elderly Malay woman and asked Makcik who she would vote for. She said UMNO. He asked why – why not PAS. She said, “cakap, ta’ boleh kah?” She probably thought that he, with his toupee beret, was some foreign recruited agent for Special Branch!
These are some of the problems that BN encountered as its well-oiled electoral machinery with ample resources, advantage of over 1000 postal votes, swooped into town, led by none other than the PM elect…..
Now Kit had complained in this blog on a thread posted Monday, January 5th, 2009 that Datuk Seri Najib Razak should scrupulously observe the distinction between being one of the party leaders in town for the by-election and not as a Deputy Prime Minister or Prime Minister-elect, and in latter capacity take advantage of the resources of the state.
However the “resources” of the state in the form of a horde of police outriders during his visit to Kuala Terengganu proved a minus than a plus point because they caused traffic jams that locals were not accustomed to.
Locals in Terengganu might not be as parochial as Kelantanese but they are also not very much less so. This “invasion” by a horde of police outriders heightened their sense of parochialism and was interpreted as elitism and abuse of power imposed from KL without regard to local sensitivities. PAS house-to -house campaign focusing on oil royalties and Monsoon Cup wasting RM300 million a year of state’s moneys would appeal to this parochial sense!
#12 by Jeffrey on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 8:21 am
After KT by election PR now sets its focus on Sarawak. It is a different ball game from Kuala Terengganu. Demographics : Melanau Muslims 7%, Malay Muslims 21%, 45% Ibans, Bidayuh, Orang Ulu (“Dayaks”), Chinese 26.7% and Indians 0.2%.
UMNO has no presence in Sarawak but notwithstanding it could mould Sarawak politics in BN’s image in Semenjung : ie Taib’s Parti Pesaka Bumiputra Bersatu (PBB), the equivalent of UMNO with a subservient Dayak arm in Pesaka, and a subservient MCA equivalent in SUPP.
PBB is traditionally supported by Melanau Muslims and Malay Muslims. Melanau Muslim leaders are the consummate Machiavellian politicians. Although not more than 10% of population, Melanaus are wealthiest, commercially savvy, politically dominant.
To make inroads into Sarawak, Pakatan Rakyat has to take three pronged broad strategies:
1. Anwar/PKR has to split Sarawak Malay Muslims from Melanau Muslims within PBB and entice the former’s leaders (so far sidelined by Melanaus) with the first go at CM’s position upon PR’s victory (plus other benefits);
2. DAP would of course take a care of Chinese/Indian segment (after all, DAP has last time around gained 6 state seats?)
3. The critical challenge for PR is how to unite and win over Dayaks wallowing in fractious divisiveness. Dayak voters’ support is critical because they’re 45% electorate! The question is what makes them tick. In KT money could not all the time buy votes. But KT is KT, it is not Sibu, Miri, Kuching or interiors of Sarawak!
Many Dayaks live in the vast rural hinterlands of Sarawak, often without basic amenities. Can PR’s ideology of “Ketuanan Rakyat” ameliorate their lot and condition? When it comes to promising promises infrastructure development and funds, roads, jetties, clinics, treated drinking water, and electricity etc can anyone compete with the ruling parties which have lots of past practice, not to mention development or slush funds continuously replenished by natural resources of that state?
In rural hinterland, the BN/PBB clique could afford to charter helicopters across mountains jungles and streams into the not so accessible desolate interior, offer to village headmen food, money, motors for their boats…
This is no Kuala Terengganu. The pivotal question: Has PR – can Anwar raise – the funds to match?
Perhaps those familiar with local Sarawak conditions can shed light of how PR could win over and unite this much divided indigenous community making up 45% of electorate!
#13 by Godfather on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 8:36 am
“This guy is so paranoid about the prospect of losing his foreskin that he couldn’t think rationally – and this guy has a PhD?” Undergrad2
May not be a PhD, could just be an MA,, but whatever the kulitfication is, readers here know now what his pronouncements are all about – extolling the dangers of Islamisation, using history to belittle the achievements of a particular religion – all for a remote possibility, with a low probability. Then he writes long postings to tell us that low probabilities may not be “low” after all.
*sigh* Some kids never learn.
#14 by taiking on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 9:00 am
Cintanegara spoke of marginalisation in one country. He was not forthright about which country but it is quite clear that he is speaking of singapore. I was there for eight years. I could not detect any impartial policies like what we have here. Majority needing protection against minority sort of protection.
There was no policies like our NEP that favour the majority chinese. That are no cries of privilege by the majority. No cries of supremacy by them. No demands for protection of their rights against the minority. No calls for ban on use of minority language (which incidentally malay is their national language) in the name of national unity or creating national identity. No threats of removing malays of their citizenship (something which our umno politicians are stupidly fond of saying). No quota for chinese in universities. Yes. No chinese-only institutions like the world’s best umnoputras-only MARA. And yes no APs and chinese only entitlements like what we have here. No stupid non-legal but still fully enforced FIC requirements.
Its a place where merits and determination count. Having said that malays are given free education is singapore all the way to university. Non-malay singaporeans only get to enjoy free primary education.
The imbalance he cited is the product of meritocracy and hardwork. Of course he being pampared with decades of umno’s unfair and bias and bully tactics now cannot view issues in their correct / proper perspectives. He can only see things through his Tuan McBully vision which is this: Anything which does not favour malays positively are bad. So singapore is bad. US is bad. China is bad, UK is bad. Australia is bad. You name it. There are no NEPs in those countries. That’s why they are all bad.
I am actually glad to know that those views of cintanegara is typical of Tuan McBully only – the umnoputras – and they do not represent the views of the common Joe Ahmad on the street. In fact the educated malays in the peninsular have lost hope in them. I dare the worthy Tuan McBully to say that these malays urban and educated malays are useless and stupid for going opposition’s way.
#15 by Jeffrey on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 9:09 am
We can all disagree (agreeably) without resorting to persistent taunts on personal level, can we not?
#16 by k1980 on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 9:18 am
How will hudud deal with this dirty 84-year-old …?
JITRA: An 84-year-old man was detained on Sunday for allegedly molesting his granddaughter, aged 10, over the past year. He was picked up at his house in Kampung Pasir here after the girl’s 27-year-old mother lodged a police report over the incident. Kubang Pasu deputy police chief Deputy Superintendent Ibrahim Mohd Yusof said a woman had spotted the man lying on his granddaughter and had told him to stop and then informed the girl’s mother about what had happened.
#17 by computation on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 9:26 am
cut off his erm **** ???
you hardly ever here things happening
like that in singapore.
and as far as i know, no policeman
has ever been charged with forcing
girls to perform oral sex…
#18 by computation on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 9:27 am
erm hear things
#19 by computation on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 9:28 am
erm oral sex in the police station
while under detention…
#20 by computation on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 9:29 am
no hudud there
in singapore. nor is it
an islamic state…
wow!
#21 by computation on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 9:30 am
what!!
the malays in singapore get free university education
and the others do not. %!##@! the chinese
are being discriminated against! stupid PAP!
#22 by TheWrathOfGrapes on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 9:31 am
/// # cintanegara Says:
Yesterday at 17: 15.24
The other country does it well too to minority ethnic….They have been systematically marginalized and discriminated by the Government ….Look at their present Government….only 1 minister from a particular ethnic, despite having a composition of 14% of the country population…. ///
cintanegara, glad you bring this up. What has this got to do with marginalization and discrimination? It shows that a particular ethnic just cannot make it under meritocracy. So, what is your idea of meritocracy – promote people based on race? If that race constitute 14% of the population, then 14% of the ministerial posts must go to that race, 14% of the CEOs must be given to that race, 14% of the generals must be from that race, no matter if there are better candidates from the majority and from an even smaller minority. I wonder why you did not mentions Indians in “the other country”. They are doing very well. Many ministers among them, and they are over-represented in the top echelons of society and business.
#23 by Jeffrey on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 10:52 am
TheWrathOfGrapes,
Here, even we ignore Meritocracy and appoint solely based on race as a percentage of population – ie having compulsorily 40% non Malays in government or governmental sector such as ministerial posts, public/civil service, armed and police forces and GLCs – I think maybe 1/2 of nation’s problems will be mitigated. :)
#24 by cintanegara on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 10:58 am
In Malaysia, every citizen enjoys equal opportunities. That’s why we have Pilots from the minority groups flying the fighter jets. It is not that we don’t have talented and capable people from the majority groups to fill up the posts. We trust every of our citizens and their loyalty to the nation…..Yes, Malaysia is a unique country..
#25 by Bigjoe on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 11:19 am
I think PR should not be too happy with the KT result. The Chinese vote did NOT turn enough. Its obvious given the donation to DAP and support to PAS during the campaign that they were not happy with BN but they carrots dangled to them fought back the tide.
If the KT Chinese could be fought back with carrots, the tribes of Sarawak and Sarawak can be similarly fought back and maybe even easier.
PR cannot just show gain in Sarawak and Sabah, they need to pound the daylights out of BN in Sarawak and Sabah and it will take more, much more than the effort in KT to achieve that. PR need to frigten the daylights out of Sarawakians and Sabah. Total fear or disgust is what is going to do it, not promise of a possible better future or a higher ideal of a better govt. Nothing less than loathing for BN is going to do it.
#26 by Godfather on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 11:24 am
cintanegara, yes we have pilots from minority groups flying our airforce jets, but then the lack of meritocracy means that all of them will end up piloting commercial aircraft for better pay and for a non-discriminatory environment. Not ashamed of this brain-drain ?
#27 by computation on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 11:28 am
wah lau
in malaysia every citizen enjoys equal opportunites!
wah lau!
i guess so lah. for the citizens. not
for the pendatangs lah.
#28 by computation on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 11:31 am
wah lau eh!
i cannot tahan this!
#29 by Jeffrey on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 11:36 am
How many pilots of Malaysian fighter jets are from minority groups?
All these fighter jets, you need some English proficiency to read the manual on finer points in an emergency and in the case of MIG-29 19 Skuadron, may be some Russian?
Singapore’s policy then (I don’t know about now) of not engaging Malay Muslim pilots who otherwise may be capable pilots has always been her achilles heels and good fodder for those who attack her allegedly double standard Meritocracy.
To put it matter-of-factly Singapore then took the position (rightly or wrongly) not to subject her fighter pilots to conflicts of interest that could (but necessarily) arise between loyalty and defence of the country on one hand and religious sentiments on the other on the assumption that the counterparty in the conflict is a predominantly Muslim populated country for whom such fighter pilots could feel symapthy.
#30 by king cobra on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 11:37 am
big joe ,
pls visit this website as below:
hope after reading u will know y chinese votes did not swing in pas candidate favor………..
http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/17041/84/
#31 by Lee Wang Yen on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 11:50 am
Godfather has clearly confused the claim that ‘the probability that PR can govern the country or can govern the country effectively is pretty low’ with the CONDITIONAL claim that ‘IF PR suceeded in wresting control of the federal government, the implementation of Hudud would not be as improbable as many here liked to think.’
#32 by Lee Wang Yen on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 11:57 am
To Godfather and Undergrad2,
Your strategy of repeated personal attacks and abuse has worked. I will not come back to comment on this blog.
#33 by OrangRojak on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 12:23 pm
matter-of-factly[ref?]
Is that really a matter of fact, Jeffrey? It sounds too juicy to be true!
not engaging Malay Muslim
So are Oriental (what is the race that ancestrally Chinese people belong to?), Negro, and Caucasian Muslims engaged? Does the government of Singapore profile its citizens (or armed services personnel) according to race and religion?
They could have avoided the religion issue by just employing a few Muslim chaplains in the armed forces like the US and UK do, to remind the pilots that God is on Singapore’s side. Perhaps with a history of high-stakes risk-taking, the people of Singapore know a bad bet when they see one.
#34 by OrangRojak on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 12:29 pm
The UK, teetering on the brink of no longer being a radical religious state itself, didn’t admit non-Christian chaplains to the Armed Forces in 2007, but instead employed civilian chaplains:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/christianity/priests/armychaplains_3.shtml
#35 by computation on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 12:33 pm
yes its true
as lee hsieng loong once said
famously when he was caught off
guard in an interview “we cannot be sure where their
loyalties lie….”
it caused such a storm that subsequent
interviewers where required to submit their
questions in advance of the interview….
#36 by Godfather on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 12:33 pm
Oh dear ! I can’t speak for Undergrad2, but I should think that Cambridge trains its students for the challenges of the real world. The real world isn’t a hunky-dory environment. It’s a dog-eat-dog environment where the fittest survive and the unfit get trampled. We are not dealing with “ifs” and “buts”.
#37 by computation on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 12:35 pm
i was under the impression though
that it only applied to not putting malay
officers in charge of army units which had
heavy machine guns… dont know why
i got that impression.
#38 by cintanegara on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 12:49 pm
How interesting……. certain categories of positions in the Air Force which the minorities ought not to be in? The country tells the entire world it is practicing fair meritocracy…………..However, certain positions still adhering to the race and religion…. Isn’t that a contradicting statement?
#39 by OrangRojak on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 12:50 pm
Your strategy
Nooooo! don’t encourage them! Oh well, too late, I suppose.
respectfuldebate.com really was still available, last time I looked. I strongly suspect it would be a magnet for offensive comments though…
#40 by Jeffrey on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 12:58 pm
1. So what is Kit’s intent to have this (political) blog? In part, I would surmise, to allow interaction between readers and exchange views/ information, analysis of current poltical issues. Kit may also be able to glean some points here and there for political battle for wider PR’s Cause.
2. I would imagine that disagreement and differences of viewpoints is healthy and make this blog more interesting. I would think that deepening the discourse by dose of formal logic is OK and even preferable (by my personal view) though it may rub others the wrong way, as most would leave comments here based on impromptu impressions – which is part of the fun – without subjecting their comments to indepth discipline of the formalism of logic. At the same time, I can understand, no one relishes the idea of being corrected incessantly when their first approach at comment is not dictated by overarching desire to conform to the rigourous standards of logical arguments as they would otherwise apply in a thesis. That takes care of the animus part of the personal attacks.
3. Having said that if your purpose is to contribute to the wider cause of discourse in reference to the objectives of 1. above, why would personal attacks by some readers/posters, which are regrettable, that personally as to thwart the objective in 1.? It is like being invited to the house(blog) which you go to out of respect for or hospitality of the Host but you’re leaving the party not because the Host is withdrawing his welcome but because you find in the course of conversations some guests have made unwarranted and insulting personal remarks of you heedless that they are others less vociferous who may be appreciative of your conversation.
4. So what is your ‘logic’ of “I will not come back to comment on this blog”? If you think that others’ strategy of repeated personal attacks and abuse is wrong, do you forsake the objective in 1. to reward the strategy that you think wrong by complying exactly to that which is unjustifiably intended?
5. As Godfather once commented, if I remember well, that the world is a rough place – and I may add – there’s as much disagreement as there is agreement, so everyone has to fight to stake what he believes in the face of attacks.
I think the rules of engagment, even in this forum, are simple: you can either maganimously brush aside personal attacks irrelevant to the blog thread as not dignifying your response OR retaliate in ways you know best or deem appropriate : the law of self defence applies in the ‘Gaza’ of this forum as it would, the Israelis, whom you said surely have the right to self defence in the face of Hamas’ intermittent and snide rocket and mortar attacks. Do the Israelis leave their land? As to who has the moral cause would depend on who, without reasonable cause, threw the first punch and drew first blood.
#41 by computation on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 12:58 pm
yes well unfortunately as well
if i am not wrong malays cannot rise
above the rank of colonel in the
army. their salaries can exceed the
bracket for the rank of colonel
but the rank itself cannot.
i am not sure on this though.
#42 by OrangRojak on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 1:12 pm
It’s a dog-eat-dog environment
You’ve been living in Malaysia too long! Where can I get some good dog, anyway? Or is it off the menu like bacon?
#43 by dawsheng on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 1:14 pm
“Your strategy of repeated personal attacks and abuse has worked. I will not come back to comment on this blog.”
Don’t be so sensitive. I read your comments seriously.
#44 by Jeffrey on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 1:15 pm
Go the Serdang (I think). They look like rabbits (after skinning) and taste like dog. :)
#45 by dawsheng on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 1:19 pm
“It’s a dog-eat-dog environment where the fittest survive and the unfit get trampled.” – Godfather
And resorting to personal attacks are part and parcel of surviving, I can understand that. Some people cannot just agree and disagree.
#46 by dawsheng on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 1:24 pm
We are not dealing with “ifs” and “buts”. – Godfather
That’s like a fairy tale.
#47 by Jeffrey on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 1:27 pm
I didn’t know (until just now) that this Blog/forum has become ‘a dog-eat-dog’ environment. I wonder what our host Kit has to say about his blog becoming one….So fellas, grow your fangs and lacerate your attacker, or if not, you can grow fat so as to make certain that the dog that eats you, itself dies of indigestion.
#48 by dawsheng on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 1:35 pm
“Yes as a Chinese, I will vote in PAS anytime, anywhere in this country, because with the Pakatan Rakyat I can rest assured that the law as spelled out in our constitution will reign supreme, and pretenders like PAS will be stopped right in their tracks by the DAP unlike the shenanigans at the MIC and MCA who have now brought minorities to their knees by deceiving them of their rights by colluding with UMNO.” – Jonathan Tan
And we live happily ever after? Can DAP stop PAS? Is this a joke?
#49 by undergrad2 on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 1:40 pm
Eating black dog in Malaysia is supposed to make you horny! My dog was not even black.
#50 by undergrad2 on Tuesday, 20 January 2009 - 1:48 pm
OrangRojak Says:
Today at 13: 12.45 (27 minutes ago)
It’s a dog-eat-dog environment
You’ve been living in Malaysia too long! Where can I get some good dog, anyway? Or is it off the menu like bacon?”
Not only do they eat dog, tiger pe*nis is sought after because it is supposed to keep you on edge for four hours.