Dear On lookers,

What actually happen in Palestine? Well, time for some history. Way back thousand years ago, as per Christian tradition, A Jew betrayed Jesus, resulting to his cruxification.

So for thousand years, Jews were murdered. Christian Kings were busy conducting pogroms. When Spain fell to Queen Isabella in 1492, not only Muslims chased out but also Jews. And where did these Jews go ? They settled in countries like Tunisia, Greece, or Ottoman Empire.

In 16th century, one Pope was forced to release a Jew incarated in prison after protest by then Sultan Suleiman of Ottoman Empire.
in 1897, Jews met then Sultan of Ottoman Empire and offered him to buy what is now Israel.

Sultan Abdul Hamid rejected the offer outright but he allowed Jews to stay in his Empire. Ottoman Empire joined World War 1 but lost the war. Its Arab empire disintegrated. Saudi Arabia, current Jordan, Iraq, Israel, Palestine, Bahrain, QAtar, Yemem was given to Britain as British Mandate. France took Syria and Lebanon.

Come World War 2 and Hitler blaming Jews for German loss in the WorldWar 1, conducted mass massacre of Jews. Western world closed one eye. Britain even forced Chezcholovakia to part with parts of its territory to appease German in 1937. Britain , France closed their eyes when Hitler annexed Austria in 1938.

German invaded poland on Sept 1, 1939. And pogrom against Jews accelerated. After the war, feelin guilty over centuries of pogrom against Jews, Western World( meaning USA, Britain mainly) felt that this Jews issue need to be settled once and for all.

Some house cleaning to be done. Get ride of unwanted people. Jews were encouraged to settled in Palestine. Palestinians objected heavily.

But they were no match to might of Jews supported by USA and Britain. In a decade hundred of thousands of Jews settled in Palestine, displacing the Arabs.

In May 1948, Israel was declared. Weeks before the independence, Haganah, Jews extremists conducted terror against simple Arab peasants. They had no choice but to flee.

You see On Looker, the problem is not religion. It is territorial. Imagine someone occupied you house and chased you away.

I used to study in USA. Many of my American colleaques then asked me about this. How come, they asked, Muslim hated Jews so much? I realized that I need to tell the sequence of events to make a point.

My answer often met with silence. Again. The standard response come” We do not know this. We do not know that Arabs were displaced in order to create a country named Israel”.

Dear Jus legitimun,

Yes. You are right. The original people is the native Orang Asli. Nobody denies that. Not even Malays or UMNO or PAS or the whole world.

I fail to see the logics( not that you have one anyway) of your statement.

But the Malays are recognised as the people who forms the govts that have been recognised by the whole world. For the unitiated like you, recognition comes in many form such as foreigners asking permission to trade or stay here or signing treaties with Malay rulers.

War, ultimatum or any relations done were done with Malay rulers. The Independence instrument was signed by Malay Rulers weeks before Independence, to be exact on Aug 3rd, 1957.

That expresses recognition. The land was once referred “Persekutuan Tanah Melayu” or literally “Land of the Malays”.

YOu can list down many Chinese whose families go back to 16th century. Nobody is denying that. It is just that the world recognises Malays as the original ruler of the land. That is the fact.

That is why even at the lowest ebb of Malay- English ties, London still recognised Malay rulers by asking their Rulers consent before implementation of Malayan Union. Whether the consent given whole heartly or threat is another matter but the legitimacy of Malay Rulers were recognised.

If you care to read the Constitution you will find that the word “Malay” is mentioned 54 times but none made on Chinese or Indian. Why ? Not because Malays are super genious or selected people like what claimed by Jews but because British recognises that when they came to Malay states, the states have already system of governance.

That does not mean that non Malays have no rights. The rights are enshrined in Constitution in the forms of freedom to practise religion, cultural heritage or conducting trade or mother tongues or rights to celebrate festivals or right to vote.

You can insult Dr Khir by trying to equate him with “Toyol” but actually it shows your upbringing or rather lack of it.. You will notice that I often criticize Uncle Lim for maintaining Imperial line in DAP( that DAP members agreed) but I never insult him personally.

I do not have to condemn his father or giving nickname that ridicules his personality. As goes the saying “mannerism maketh a man”.

I mean that I do not expect you to comment like Nobel laureate. Everybody knows your limitation. But show some humility and comment but spare the insult. I am quite liberal here but some minimum standard is expected here. Just try to meet that mimimun standard, will you?

As for where I come from , here from Kedah or Acheh , I am proud of my heritage. There is nothing to be embarassed of your background. It does not matter where you come from but where are you going is much more important. Simply because your forefather came from almost poverty condition in rural China in tongkang does not make you insignificant.

As for Monsterball, there were many reasons for colonialism. I never say anything about denying the weaknesses of Malay Rulers then. Quite common in every part of the globe. I am sure you are aware there is nothing much Emperor of China then could do to prevent looting of Summer Palace or forcing China to pay indemnity after Opium War.

So, if you think you can hit me below the belt, do not forget that I can do the same. If you care to learn history , you wll realize that once Sultan of Sabah( part of Sulu sultanate) was reluctant to cede Labuan to British. But British pounding the Sabah coast forced him to cede Labuan to the British.

As for Voice2009, yes many from Malaysia have families in Indonesia. But the movement of people way back 100 or 200 years ago took place within one “rumpun” where once were one empire. As an example, Riau Archipelago until early 19th century was part of Johor Empire. Pattani in South Thailand had Sultans until 1909. So, social boundary is not necessarily political boundary.

As for Dayak or Iban or Kenyah or Semai or Bajau, yes they are the natives. I am not interested to argue who comes here earlier than who. What is the point quarelling on such senseless argument. What do you achieve from doing that. No need to be petty.