Comments on: KT by-election – Najib not campaigning as DPM and police should not apply double-standards http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/01/05/kt-by-election-najib-not-campaigning-as-dpm-and-police-should-not-apply-double-standards/ for Malaysia Sun, 12 Feb 2012 09:12:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: globalpublic http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/01/05/kt-by-election-najib-not-campaigning-as-dpm-and-police-should-not-apply-double-standards/comment-page-2/#comment-218562 globalpublic Wed, 07 Jul 2010 20:33:00 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=2300#comment-218562 Perhaps we should start asking questions about the big picture... Do we need a Referendum For A New Democracy? Are you concerned about the future of democracy? Do you feel democracy is under attack by extreme greed in countries around the world? Are you sick and tired of: living in fear, corporate greed, growing police state, government for the rich, working more but having less? Can we use both elections and random selection (in the way we select government officials) to rid democracy of undue influence by extreme wealth and wealth-dominated mass media campaigns? The world's first democracy (Athenian democracy, 600 B.C.) used both elections and random selection. Even Aristotle (the co-founder of Western thought) promoted the use random selection as the best way to protect democracy. The idea of randomly selecting (after screening) juries remains from Athenian democracy, but not randomly selecting (after screening) government officials. Why is it used only for individual justice and not also for social justice? Who wins from that? ...the extremely wealthy? What is the best way to combine elections and random selection to protect democracy in today's world? Can we use elections as the way to screen candidates, and random selection as the way to do the final selection? Who wins from that? ...the people? Perhaps we should start asking questions about the big picture…

Do we need a Referendum For A New Democracy?

Are you concerned about the future of democracy? Do you feel democracy is under attack by extreme greed in countries around the world? Are you sick and tired of: living in fear, corporate greed, growing police state, government for the rich, working more but having less?

Can we use both elections and random selection (in the way we select government officials) to rid democracy of undue influence by extreme wealth and wealth-dominated mass media campaigns?

The world’s first democracy (Athenian democracy, 600 B.C.) used both elections and random selection. Even Aristotle (the co-founder of Western thought) promoted the use random selection as the best way to protect democracy. The idea of randomly selecting (after screening) juries remains from Athenian democracy, but not randomly selecting (after screening) government officials. Why is it used only for individual justice and not also for social justice? Who wins from that? …the extremely wealthy?

What is the best way to combine elections and random selection to protect democracy in today’s world? Can we use elections as the way to screen candidates, and random selection as the way to do the final selection? Who wins from that? …the people?

]]> By: One4All4One http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/01/05/kt-by-election-najib-not-campaigning-as-dpm-and-police-should-not-apply-double-standards/comment-page-2/#comment-153436 One4All4One Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:21:05 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=2300#comment-153436 # undergrad2 Says: January 5th, 2009 (3 days ago) at 23: 24.17 “PKR should not use the picture of a dead lady ..” You got a problem with freedom of speech?? - end quote - OOPS...shouldn't it be "freedom of pictures"? # undergrad2 Says:
January 5th, 2009 (3 days ago) at 23: 24.17

“PKR should not use the picture of a dead lady ..”

You got a problem with freedom of speech?? – end quote -

OOPS…shouldn’t it be “freedom of pictures”?

]]> By: undergrad2 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/01/05/kt-by-election-najib-not-campaigning-as-dpm-and-police-should-not-apply-double-standards/comment-page-2/#comment-153040 undergrad2 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:51:11 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=2300#comment-153040 Jong Says: Yesterday at 11: 45.50 The Mamakfler needs some cheap publicity ..." That mamak the fella suffers from ADS or attention deficit syndrome(like Old Man Nincompoop) after leaving office and is now making up for lost time. Jong Says:

Yesterday at 11: 45.50
The Mamakfler needs some cheap publicity …”

That mamak the fella suffers from ADS or attention deficit syndrome(like Old Man Nincompoop) after leaving office and is now making up for lost time.

]]> By: monsterball http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/01/05/kt-by-election-najib-not-campaigning-as-dpm-and-police-should-not-apply-double-standards/comment-page-2/#comment-152956 monsterball Tue, 06 Jan 2009 09:26:10 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=2300#comment-152956 And he dare not say boycott ...KFC...MaDonald...Pepsi....all operated by UMNO members.... and one by his good friend. This mamak.....every fibre of his brain is corrupted to the core with cunning and foxy mentalities. And he dare not say boycott …KFC…MaDonald…Pepsi….all operated by UMNO members…. and one by his good friend.
This mamak…..every fibre of his brain is corrupted to the core with cunning and foxy mentalities.

]]> By: monsterball http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/01/05/kt-by-election-najib-not-campaigning-as-dpm-and-police-should-not-apply-double-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-152910 monsterball Tue, 06 Jan 2009 03:59:00 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=2300#comment-152910 Yes...that ever thick skin and devil reincarnated mamak...tell Malaysians to boycott Coca Cola. He lied..he cheated..and yes...paid US 1 million....not in RM.. to meet Bush...supporting US$..now tell us .what he supported. I bet you....he his safe is ever stacked up with thousands and thousands US$ ..ready to travel anytime. And only last month....he showed his ever unbelievable lying character....promising to release all UMNO corrupted crooks in his blog...AFTER ....Tunku Ahmad Rithauddeen...said corruption went back 25 years ago...corrupted to the core...hinting at the mamak..and this mamak...never deliver his promise at all....so out-dated....so sickening...hoping Malaysians easily forget all his dirty political tactics. What a low class racialist.. PM we had for 22 years. Dollah is simple a coward and a liar.....and Najib will remind us ....little about Mahathir....but with no brains. He will be the biggest braggart ... liar...and a well dressed actor. That's all...he is good at. Yes…that ever thick skin and devil reincarnated mamak…tell Malaysians to boycott Coca Cola.
He lied..he cheated..and yes…paid US 1 million….not in RM.. to meet Bush…supporting US$..now tell us .what he supported.
I bet you….he his safe is ever stacked up with thousands and thousands US$ ..ready to travel anytime.
And only last month….he showed his ever unbelievable lying character….promising to release all UMNO corrupted crooks in his blog…AFTER ….Tunku Ahmad Rithauddeen…said corruption went back 25 years ago…corrupted to the core…hinting at the mamak..and this mamak…never deliver his promise at all….so out-dated….so sickening…hoping Malaysians easily forget all his dirty political tactics.
What a low class racialist.. PM we had for 22 years.
Dollah is simple a coward and a liar…..and Najib will remind us ….little about Mahathir….but with no brains. He will be the biggest braggart … liar…and a well dressed actor. That’s all…he is good at.

]]> By: Jong http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/01/05/kt-by-election-najib-not-campaigning-as-dpm-and-police-should-not-apply-double-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-152903 Jong Tue, 06 Jan 2009 03:45:50 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=2300#comment-152903 The Mamakfler needs some cheap publicity that the mainstream media is willing to give him. He has been ignored for far too long, desperate and needs to create headlines to be noticed, that's about all. It's either to divide the people, create friction or spat at our neighbour Singapore and superpower United States of America that he envies. The Mamakfler needs some cheap publicity that the mainstream media is willing to give him.
He has been ignored for far too long, desperate and needs to create headlines to be noticed, that’s about all.

It’s either to divide the people, create friction or spat at our neighbour Singapore and superpower United States of America that he envies.

]]> By: Bigjoe http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/01/05/kt-by-election-najib-not-campaigning-as-dpm-and-police-should-not-apply-double-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-152877 Bigjoe Tue, 06 Jan 2009 01:25:22 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=2300#comment-152877 Its sad really, how we have such low expectation of our leaders. Sdr. Lim still keep his feet in flying the flags of high and idealistic standards but its met with cynicism mostly. These days, people leaders like Sdr. Lim to be highly result oriented and not call for high idealism i.e. ideological. Sdr. Lim amd Karpal Singh comes from a different era, the pre-Mahathir Machiavellian ways. Where top leaders are suppose to hold the line on idealism. Its sad no many don't appreciate it and gives credence that today's Malaysian are truly prodigal inheritors and our newer leaders even more so.. Its sad really, how we have such low expectation of our leaders. Sdr. Lim still keep his feet in flying the flags of high and idealistic standards but its met with cynicism mostly. These days, people leaders like Sdr. Lim to be highly result oriented and not call for high idealism i.e. ideological.

Sdr. Lim amd Karpal Singh comes from a different era, the pre-Mahathir Machiavellian ways. Where top leaders are suppose to hold the line on idealism.

Its sad no many don’t appreciate it and gives credence that today’s Malaysian are truly prodigal inheritors and our newer leaders even more so..

]]> By: yhsiew http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/01/05/kt-by-election-najib-not-campaigning-as-dpm-and-police-should-not-apply-double-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-152873 yhsiew Tue, 06 Jan 2009 01:08:07 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=2300#comment-152873 The police quick action in arresting 5 members of PKR youth wing merely deepens one's suspicion whether Najis was actually involved in Altantuya's case. The arrest is unnecessary if Najis truly has nothing to with Altantuya's murder. The police quick action in arresting 5 members of PKR youth wing merely deepens one’s suspicion whether Najis was actually involved in Altantuya’s case. The arrest is unnecessary if Najis truly has nothing to with Altantuya’s murder.

]]> By: k1980 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/01/05/kt-by-election-najib-not-campaigning-as-dpm-and-police-should-not-apply-double-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-152869 k1980 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 00:55:09 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=2300#comment-152869 The mamak wants malaysians to boycott American goods, when he himself paid USD 1.2 million to Jews to arrange a meeting with Bush in 2002 The mamak wants malaysians to boycott American goods, when he himself paid USD 1.2 million to Jews to arrange a meeting with Bush in 2002

]]> By: monsterball http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/01/05/kt-by-election-najib-not-campaigning-as-dpm-and-police-should-not-apply-double-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-152853 monsterball Mon, 05 Jan 2009 23:25:42 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=2300#comment-152853 On election matters...UMNO have hundreds millions "commission" saved....so call legal money... stolen from the Rakyat. When one need to keep on putting out huge banners....distribute briberies...plus still use tax payer money with a thick skin face.. on such an occasion ..to smoothen roads...repair leaks..fill up pot holes...shows...after 52 years...no good reputations...and on going to fool Malaysians. They use money power from stolen money to the greatest heights...from Mahatir's 22 years....up to now. If you also observe carefully..besides a big mouth and very selfish vicious character...Mahathir have shown what a dictator he was...sacking 4 DPM that did not agree with him...putting one in jail for 6 years...with false charges..and all these 4..are much better than Najib. Mahathir wanted..."yes men" . Is that not a Dictator? Yet he ruled for 22 years..showed his money power worked with his own selfish...cruel agenda In the whole world....no other government is so clear...so corrupted to the core...than UMNO. Mahathir said...."Money is power"....so true.....making sure oppositions do not have that kind of money. But Allah does work in a mysterious ways..to ensure Pakatan Rakyat have equal financial facilities...from donations..all over the world. Otherwise...Permatang Pauh would have not be won. So as individual Malaysians.....with no money..we must ..each work hard.... to help change the government. Offer our services without being asked...as much as we can. At the end of the day...we can say to ourselves...we did out best too. That's good. We are actually fighting a devilish government....who divide to rule and created a third class Malaysians of their own race. What more proof does anyone want...to know UMNO....is so hypocritical and corrupted. If Terengganu by-election falls to UMNO...than the devils have more deciples there than anywhere else...or have created so many selfish and half past sixes....cannot think..simply put an "X"...job done...like before...and these are mostly..the third class Muslims...just like in Palestine..no need to think..just fight for jihad...and die. How cruel can UMNO be...to brainwashed..to be lazy and contented...to stay in power..to his own race. On election matters…UMNO have hundreds millions “commission” saved….so call legal money… stolen from the Rakyat.
When one need to keep on putting out huge banners….distribute briberies…plus still use tax payer money with a thick skin face.. on such an occasion ..to smoothen roads…repair leaks..fill up pot holes…shows…after 52 years…no good reputations…and on going to fool Malaysians.
They use money power from stolen money to the greatest heights…from Mahatir’s 22 years….up to now.
If you also observe carefully..besides a big mouth and very selfish vicious character…Mahathir have shown what a dictator he was…sacking 4 DPM that did not agree with him…putting one in jail for 6 years…with false charges..and all these 4..are much better than Najib. Mahathir wanted…”yes men” . Is that not a Dictator?
Yet he ruled for 22 years..showed his money power worked with his own selfish…cruel agenda
In the whole world….no other government is so clear…so corrupted to the core…than UMNO.
Mahathir said….”Money is power”….so true…..making sure oppositions do not have that kind of money.
But Allah does work in a mysterious ways..to ensure Pakatan Rakyat have equal financial facilities…from donations..all over the world.
Otherwise…Permatang Pauh would have not be won.
So as individual Malaysians…..with no money..we must ..each work hard…. to help change the government. Offer our services without being asked…as much as we can.
At the end of the day…we can say to ourselves…we did out best too. That’s good.
We are actually fighting a devilish government….who divide to rule and created a third class Malaysians of their own race.
What more proof does anyone want…to know UMNO….is so hypocritical and corrupted.
If Terengganu by-election falls to UMNO…than the devils have more deciples there than anywhere else…or have created so many selfish and half past sixes….cannot think..simply put an “X”…job done…like before…and these are mostly..the third class Muslims…just like in Palestine..no need to think..just fight for jihad…and die.
How cruel can UMNO be…to brainwashed..to be lazy and contented…to stay in power..to his own race.

]]> By: isahbiazhar http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/01/05/kt-by-election-najib-not-campaigning-as-dpm-and-police-should-not-apply-double-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-152838 isahbiazhar Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:52:32 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=2300#comment-152838 Using government machinery and labour for election purposes is illegal.The voters are also tax payers and they also come from the opposition.Najib should stop these blatant abuse of power immediately.Let us be fair and not create problems.The massive number of policemen shows that the government is not confident of the Terengganu civilised people.Incidents and flare up can happen but it deems no big rocks to pulverise.Democracy is alive in Terengganu and the Federal government should not underestimate the people here.They know that the patch up work done now is not a long term solution.Giving out and dishing endless sweets during election campaign will not buy over them.Terengganu people can live in poverty if it deems but at the same they have their right to decide.Both parties must come out with issues that have not been solved.Petty issues are not acceptable.We are committed to a two party system as such we have to start to nurture these principles so that the future of this country is in the good hands of a multiracial society. Using government machinery and labour for election purposes is illegal.The voters are also tax payers and they also come from the opposition.Najib should stop these blatant abuse of power immediately.Let us be fair and not create problems.The massive number of policemen shows that the government is not confident of the Terengganu civilised people.Incidents and flare up can happen but it deems no big rocks to pulverise.Democracy is alive in Terengganu and the Federal government should not underestimate the people here.They know that the patch up work done now is not a long term solution.Giving out and dishing endless sweets during election campaign will not buy over them.Terengganu people can live in poverty if it deems but at the same they have their right to decide.Both parties must come out with issues that have not been solved.Petty issues are not acceptable.We are committed to a two party system as such we have to start to nurture these principles so that the future of this country is in the good hands of a multiracial society.

]]> By: OrangRojak http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/01/05/kt-by-election-najib-not-campaigning-as-dpm-and-police-should-not-apply-double-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-152828 OrangRojak Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:56:30 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=2300#comment-152828 It has taken me 40 years of hard slog to become a respectable member of society in my own eyes. It just took me 10 minutes to find, encode and set a certain National Anthem as the ringtone on a phone. It seems like a waste to keep it to myself. Anybody want it? For purely personal enjoyment, obviously. It has taken me 40 years of hard slog to become a respectable member of society in my own eyes. It just took me 10 minutes to find, encode and set a certain National Anthem as the ringtone on a phone.

It seems like a waste to keep it to myself. Anybody want it? For purely personal enjoyment, obviously.

]]> By: undergrad2 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/01/05/kt-by-election-najib-not-campaigning-as-dpm-and-police-should-not-apply-double-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-152827 undergrad2 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:54:16 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=2300#comment-152827 Magistrates are normally prosecution oriented. This must be one who has decided on a career change. Magistrates are normally prosecution oriented. This must be one who has decided on a career change.

]]> By: Jong http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/01/05/kt-by-election-najib-not-campaigning-as-dpm-and-police-should-not-apply-double-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-152826 Jong Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:51:44 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=2300#comment-152826 Breakin News: - the Kuala Trengganu Magistrate, asked "What's wrong with that?" in reference to having in possession the posters of Altantuya Shaariibuu, had ordered the release of the 5 PKR Youths. Congrats! One up for Pakatan Rakyat. Breakin News:

- the Kuala Trengganu Magistrate, asked “What’s wrong with that?” in reference to having in possession the posters of Altantuya Shaariibuu, had ordered the release of the 5 PKR Youths.

Congrats! One up for Pakatan Rakyat.

]]> By: Jong http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/01/05/kt-by-election-najib-not-campaigning-as-dpm-and-police-should-not-apply-double-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-152824 Jong Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:48:03 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=2300#comment-152824 Latest - the Kuala Trengganu Magistrate had ordered the release of the 5 PKR Youths, said there was nothing wrong having those pictures of Altantuya. You will laugh till you drop, check out this out... http://zorro-zorro-unmasked.blogspot.com/2009/01/kt-magistrate-whats-wrong-with-that.html Latest – the Kuala Trengganu Magistrate had ordered the release of the 5 PKR Youths, said there was nothing wrong having those pictures of Altantuya.

You will laugh till you drop, check out this out…

http://zorro-zorro-unmasked.blogspot.com/2009/01/kt-magistrate-whats-wrong-with-that.html

]]> By: Jong http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/01/05/kt-by-election-najib-not-campaigning-as-dpm-and-police-should-not-apply-double-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-152817 Jong Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:16:58 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=2300#comment-152817 National joke 2009 from the shores of Trengganu... the big man of UMNO who has never met the Mongolian lass is afraid of her pix/ghost, it scares the wits out of him! How can, huh? :D National joke 2009
from the shores of Trengganu… the big man of UMNO who has never met the Mongolian lass is afraid of her pix/ghost, it scares the wits out of him! How can, huh? :D

]]> By: undergrad2 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/01/05/kt-by-election-najib-not-campaigning-as-dpm-and-police-should-not-apply-double-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-152813 undergrad2 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:08:55 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=2300#comment-152813 Is there anything wrong with being die-hard fans of the late Mongolian model?? Is there anything wrong with being die-hard fans of the late Mongolian model??

]]> By: undergrad2 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/01/05/kt-by-election-najib-not-campaigning-as-dpm-and-police-should-not-apply-double-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-152812 undergrad2 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:07:21 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=2300#comment-152812 What is?? What is??

]]> By: Jong http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/01/05/kt-by-election-najib-not-campaigning-as-dpm-and-police-should-not-apply-double-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-152808 Jong Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:59:59 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=2300#comment-152808 It is now already National Joke for 2009! hahaha! :D It is now already National Joke for 2009! hahaha! :D

]]> By: undergrad2 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2009/01/05/kt-by-election-najib-not-campaigning-as-dpm-and-police-should-not-apply-double-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-152807 undergrad2 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:57:28 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=2300#comment-152807 They will have to lock up everybody with the T-shirt on. It is going to take a lot of police stations to do that! They will have to lock up everybody with the T-shirt on. It is going to take a lot of police stations to do that!

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