Comments on: Why some Government Officers become corrupt

By: sukumaran

sukumaran — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 02:27:07 +0000

no one forced this people to work for government.
Gaji tak cukup.Kerja sendiri atau kerja swasta.

You Choose your way right?

By: ekans

ekans — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:26:13 +0000

This Malaysia-Singapore comparison is interesting. On several occasions, I had travelled by bus to & from Singapore via the 2nd Link and had noticed the following…
At the Gelang Patah CIQ, there would be 3 or 4 pegawai imigresen manning the passport counters and there would also be several of their colleagues hanging around chit-chatting, joking and reading newspapers.
At the Tuas immigration checkpoint, there would also be 3 or 4 Singaporean ICA officers manning the passport counters, and it’s just only them with a senior officer supervising them.
Hmmm…
I had the opportunity to stay with a close relative who holds a PR there, in a HDB flat where I noticed that there are no household pests like cockroaches, lizards and even mosquitoes, no stench of rubbish (they’re disposed through a chute into a closed dumpster on the ground floor which is emptied on schedule), and there’s no need for security guards. Next to the mailboxes on the ground floor, there is a notice board which lists the photo and phone number belonging to every member of the town council the flat is located in, so that a tenant will know who to look for, should there be a complaint.
Hmmm…

By: veddy.lum74

veddy.lum74 — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:53:36 +0000

uncle kit,you are too humble,not some,it’s most of the gomen officers become corrupt!

infact,the police are enjoying lots of allowances,after adding it,a constable income is approximately rm2000!(much better than factory workers!),nevertheless,because of their greed in owning better lifestyles,they normally borrow quite a number of personal loans from Bank Rakyat and lots of Koperasi,jusy like ‘along’ kaki,borrow new ones to cover the previous loans…………….so when the debts are high,they will normally practising high level of corruptions!

to tell you the truth,there were so many police,bomba,army,dbkl,even teachers,their net take home pay is less than rm600!

Believe it or not,it’s amasing isnt it?

By: monsterball

monsterball — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:56:07 +0000

Thanks undergrade2.
Many mother hen can give me all their unwanted chicks….including limkamput.
I will raise them with loving kindness.
But if one falls for me again..I got to check….if I have room for one more….hahahahahahagha

By: ahseng83

ahseng83 — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 04:21:13 +0000

For all of your information, the PM of Singapore’s salary is the highest in the world!! 10 times more then the President of the U.S get!!

By: ahseng83

ahseng83 — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 04:18:15 +0000

Why don’t PKR engage Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew from Singapore to be a political advisor here if they somehow manage to lay UMNO to rest 6 feet under? He’s a genius.. Malaysia’s current ministers and even the top one siting there sleeping all day long has a lot ( i mean damn lot) to learn from him. Malaysia is supposed to be damn much richer than singapore. Why is it that we’re still int he 3rd world when they’ve already achived the first world dtatus. Something is very wrong somewhere… I wonder where all the $$ goes…

By: undergrad2

undergrad2 — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 03:06:34 +0000

monsterball Says:

Yesterday at 20: 04.05
limkamput is trying hard to insult me..”

You don’t know Limkaput as well as old timers here do! That’s the only way he could feel good about himself.

By: pakmang

pakmang — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 02:44:35 +0000

The ACA has to work extremely hard to prevent corruption so that our nation will be really rich but not the individuals-corrupted politicians. The benefits would distribute and share among our citizens and we will be equally or even weathier than Singaporeans.

By: monsterball

monsterball — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 01:45:59 +0000

Like I said…..productivity with right attitudes….very low in Malaysia.
A lot of youngsters work for awhile…learn something and resign..applying for another job with RM50 better salary…..on and on…that if you look at the history of the past jobs…you will laugh and feel sorry for these youngsters..no productivity…no loyalty..but selling themselves to the highest bidders…with no shame..no sense of proportion…that…from a RM800 per month job.. to RM 1500 in 2 years..working for 6 companies..now applying for..RM1700 is not success at all!!
That’s digging their own grave….to be useless worker and need to retire young…..or get a low paid job…….to start all over again…at age 40.
That’s commercial firms experiences.
Government….enough is said.
Why are so many Malaysians be like that?
Easy to understand.
When you have an insincere corrupted government…and keep performing like actors….some youngsters are actually thinking….how to con bosses…talk sweet …no results to succeed too!!
Yes…teachers and government must be changed…if we want to advance.
Malaysia …so rich..so blessed by Allah…end is near..if we don’t wake up the the truths…and vote UMNO out.

By: taiking

taiking — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 00:54:00 +0000

Corruption = Malaysia.
So conversely,
Malaysia = Corruption.
But,
Malaysia = Umno.
So should it be,
Corruption = Malaysia = Umno
Or maybe,
Umno = Malaysia = Corruption.
No No No.
Its,
Malaysia = Umno = Corruption
Err, what the heck. In short
Corruption = Umno
Huh!!
Oh yeh. How come I did not realise this.
See. Any which way one looks at the issue, somehow umno is in the picture.
Ahh the whole thing now seems that much clearer.
No wonder corruption is bad in the country.
Its badder than bad. Its organised corruption on par with organised crime.
Or mathematically,
Organised corruption = Organised crime.

By: ringthetill

ringthetill — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 21:07:28 +0000

You get what you pay for. A graduate back in 1980 started earning slight more than RM1000. Now, 28 years later, starting pay is only 50% more whereas cost of living has gone 300% (simple comparison of a piece of roti cani then and now).
So, tell me, has the standard and quality of life improved, as what the government had wanted us to believe?

By: monsterball

monsterball — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:20:09 +0000

When we are united as Malaysians…then we can talk of all the good religious laws.
Hudud law as clearly explained by RPK….protects the victim…not the accuser.
This that not a good law?
UMNO is victimizing the innocent with no laws.
Yet both PAS and UMNO…keep championing themselves as the protector of Islamic faith and keep using the Islam religion…to win votes.
For sure…PAS is more sincere than UMNO.
But the years of promoting Islamic faith…to th extreme in politics by these two…have created nothing but….contented …unproductive Muslims….leaving their fate to Allah,to God’s will and to UMNO or PAS..whoever they belong to .as members.
Vote for country and people are totally nonsense…as according to their controlled minds. No need to think at all.
Like I said…..PAS is much more sincere….but just look at UMNO.
So clear..totally hypocrites and using Islam to arrest whom they do not like…also using Islam..to protect the guilty corrupted ones.
One moment….promote the middle road Islamic doctrine….next moment apply the oldest Islamic law…where swearing by the Koran…you have proven to be innocent…no need to go to court at all.
Yes UMNO have used the religion to the fullest..to win votes…to jail people and to protect ….even a suspected murderer.
UMNO have even proven to be above Allah…by using ISA…on innocent people.
Islam religion is messed up by UMNO…with help from PAS too.
Therefore…as all Malaysians love to be broad minded and accepts good Islamic laws…nevertheless….it is quite impossible now..with dirty religious politics played by UMNO.
As such…no matter how sincere….how good.PAS maybe now….they will not get the support….particularly from DAP…as they need to prove.. good governance in Kelantan….winning UMNO members..with good results….different from before….methods. PAS need to contribute to contribute to the Malaysian Malaysian objective sincerely……not always promoting Islamic laws…to win votes and indirectly…is still .. a racialist party…..impossible to contribute to a united Malaysian Malaysia.
So all Islamic laws..sure to be gunned down by DAP…who are welknown to be..no nonsense Malaysian politicians.
PAS seems to enjoy getting Karpal Singh angry……I wonder why.

By: vsp

vsp — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:20:00 +0000

jus legitimum:

No need to give them higher pay as their gross salary is more than 2500 ringgit and many graduates and professionals in the private sector do not earn that much

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Aiyah, it’s not the money lah. Take care of the heads first. Hududed them if their hands are not clean and automatically everything will take care of itself.

By: limkamput

limkamput — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:58:17 +0000

Monsterball … there is no need to “howlian”. Those who are rich will not say they are. … Your failing is you are not teachable. By the way, failing is different from failure. I am not trying to teach you. You will never know the nuances.

By: jus legitimum

jus legitimum — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:53:52 +0000

No need to give them higher pay as their gross salary is more than 2500 ringgit and many graduates and professionals in the private sector do not earn that much.As long as they are not greedy and know how to manage their income and expenditure then of course they should not grouse about low pay.However the civil servants are composed mainly of Malays who are unlike Chinese and other races are reluctant to practise family planning.I have seen young Malay couples are already burdening themselves with 6 or more kids and that is quite rare among non Malays.Probably they have foolishly responded to the call of a targeted 70 million population made by Mamaktir.

By: vsp

vsp — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:46:26 +0000

Corruption spreads fast because the top level of society is corrupt. When the head is sick, eventually all members of the body will be affected.

I would suggest one cure: PAS’s hudud can be good. But this hudud must be modified to apply only to the top level of society, i.e. politicians, heads of departments, top businessmen, top law enforcement officers, etc. It must be color-blind: no matter if you are a Muslim, a Christian, a Hindu, a Buddhist or an atheist, once you are involved in corruption your hands will be chopped off.

Hudud must not be applied to the lower rungs of society. Let the normal law deal with it. Put the fear into the head and you will save the body.

I think this will extinguish all the rhetorics and politics of Hudud. If PAS is smart champion Hudud only for the head (not Muslims only but all) Leave the body to the other types of medicine and see the result.

By: monsterball

monsterball — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:04:05 +0000

limkamput is trying hard to insult me.
That’s good. Let readers just why.
What failing ..is he talking about?
At my age…smoking 10 sticks of cigars .enjoying life with good health…no money problem…what the hell is he talking about?
…
But this is about exposing two timers….monsterball style.
Pricking anyone conscience?
hi…limkamput…everyone can read your messages and mine…1000 times more than yours…all over so many blogs…for years..and are smart enough to judge me well.
Please tell..how not to be a failure…limkamput.
Teach something…just don’t judge and talk nonsense.

By: OrangRojak

OrangRojak — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 11:51:41 +0000

It seems to me that your civil servants are not underpaid. I imagine they have employment contracts just like private sector employees and can leave their employer after a notice period. If they are underpaid, all they would have to do is find better paid employment and quit their jobs. If sufficient employees felt strongly that they were underpaid and quit for better rewards, the government would be obliged to increase pay to ensure adequate staffing levels.

If they are in a profession where the government was the only employer in the job market, I could understand some complaint. Presumably ACA officers need only be numerate, able to understand simple rules governing conduct in public life and have a clean record in matters of trust. Such a job would be hotly contested if it paid well! Unless, that is “a clean record in matters of trust” is such a rare commodity in Malaysia.

Perhaps the government could put ACA officers on a commission scheme, or even farm it out to contractors for a ‘bounty’.

By: butul

butul — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 11:12:26 +0000

People, please be aware that a whole single family of our tuans can be employed in the civil service while the grand parents are pensioners. That could mean a family income of RM20k per month!

By: A true Malaysian

A true Malaysian — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 11:07:43 +0000

Get rid of the ‘MACRO ROOT CAUSE’, then those ‘micro root causes’ for corruptions, education, judiciary, abuses….the list goes on, can be ‘kautim’.

Without getting rid of this ‘MACRO ROOT CAUSE’, no point in talking on how to solve these problems.

Coming KT battle is not on Hudud Law, but getting rid of ‘MACRO ROOT CAUSE’.

Depending on which camps you belong to, ‘MACRO ROOT CAUSE’ is different to different people. But, most of us are in the same camp, except one or two. Just ignore this one or two.