I am surprised that the MCA president Datuk Seri Ong Tee Keat is saying things that makes neither sense nor logic. It would appear that his short tenure as the MCA President has imposed such a tremendous pressure that he is speaking and acting, to many, completely out of character.
Yesterday, he came out with a blog entitled “DAP, not MCA, should boycott KT by-election”, which was promptly reported by the Star online, with the headline “Boycott by-election, DAP told” as follows:
PETALING JAYA: MCA president Datuk Seri Ong Tee Keat has asked DAP to boycott the Kuala Terengganu by-election campaign as a matter of principle if it is really against PAS’ plan to implement hudud and qisas laws if it comes to power at the national level.
He said if DAP chose to help campaign for PAS’ candidate in Kuala Terengganu, then it would mean that the party supported public whipping, amputation and stoning for criminal offences under hudud laws.
“Mere words objecting to PAS vice-president Datuk Husam Musa’s statement on the issue would not suffice if not demonstrated by action,” Ong said in his latest posting in his blog.
Ong is not making any sense firstly, as he is flying in the face of the DAP record and history in trying to suggest that the DAP supports “public whipping, amputation and stoning for criminal ofences under hudud laws” – a suggestion which is so ludicrous that it does not deserve rebuttal!
It will not be surprising if such a ridiculous allegation had come from his lowly lieutenants who have no integrity to defend but I am amazed and wonder what has happened to Ong that he could descend to such a depth in so short a time after becoming MCA President!
Secondly, Ong is also not making any sense with his blog as I never suggested that MCA boycott the Kuala Terengganu by-election.
Going by his logic, Ong should lead MCA to quit the Barisan Nasional unless UMNO leaders repent and withdraw their seven-year stand that Malaysia is an Islamic state which is not only unconstitutional but totally contrary to the Merdeka social contract reached by the forefathers of the major communities on the attainment of Independence in 1957 that Islam is the official religion but Malaysia is not an Islamic state!
On Sept. 29, 2001, the then Prime Minister and Umno President, Datuk Seri Dr. Mahathir Mohamad declared that Malaysia was an Islamic State, committing the MCA without referring the issue first for consultation with and consent of the MCA leadership and membership.
But there was no need for any prior consultation or consent from the MCA leadership in the “unequal relationship” between Umno and MCA, as evident from the quick public support given by the MCA leadership to the “929 Declaration”: that Malaysia was an Islamic State, although this went against all that the MCA founding fathers in particular Tun Tan Cheng Lock and Tun Tan Siew Sin had stood for.
Who is really to be blamed for UMNO playing the “bully” in the Umno-MCA relationship?
In the past seven years, this “929 Declaration” that Malaysia is an Islamic State was repeated again and again by Umno leaders, the latest by the Prime-Minister-designate Datuk Seri Najib Razak, in July last year, with the MCA leadership continuing to give tacit support.
Going by Ong’s logic in his blog, shouldn’t he be leading the MCA to quit Barisan Nasional unless UMNO leaders repent and withdraw their seven-year-old stand that Malaysia is an Islamic state, especially when this is clearly against the Malaysian Constitution and the Merdeka “social contract” that while Islam is the official religion, Malaysia is not an Islamic state?
Ong and MCA should learn from the DAP, for DAP leaders had no hesitation in publicly declaring that PAS Vice President Datuk Husam Musa was wrong and mistaken as hukum hudud is neither DAP nor Pakatan Rakyat policy – leading to Husam admitting that the DAP is right.
I will like to know where Ong got the idea that I had proposed that the MCA boycott the forthcoming Kuala Terengganu by-election, resulting in his retort that it is the DAP which should boycott the by-election.
On Wednesday, I had said that “there is no need for MCA to help in the Barisan Nasional campaign for the Kuala Terengganu by-election next month” if Ong could not publicly furnish the answers to the Five Questions I had posed to him in April about the RM4.6 billion Port Klang Free Zone (PKFZ) scandal
My language was simple and clear. I was not asking the MCA to boycott the Kuala Terengganu by-election but giving a clear warning that the new MCA President and leadership risk being exposed in the by-election as having failed to honour Ong’s public pledge on accountability, transparency and integrity by “telling all” about the RM4.6 billion PKFZ scandal – as Ong’s press conference on Sunday was nothing but a “cover-up” and a “white-wash” of the RM4.6 billion PKFZ scandal!
My warning to Ong remains – that unless he is prepared to honestly and truthfully answer the Five Questions on the RM4.6 billion PKFZ scandal, in particular the role of the two former MCA Transport Ministers, he will be confronted with these questions in the Kuala Terengganu by-election and the MCA will not be rendering any help to the Barisan Nasional by-election campaign if the MCA President and leadership are seen as terribly defensive or worse, as being “on the run”, from giving full and proper accountability for the PKFZ scandal.

#1 by Godfather on Sunday, 28 December 2008 - 11:04 am
Five thousand years of Chinese history is well documented with such people. People with no backbone, scholars who talk endlessly about possibilities, people who did NOTHING to change the course of Chinese history. People who keep repeating “On the one hand, it is this and on the other hand, it is that” only to find that they jerked themselves off to death !
Thank goodness March 8 showed the people what can be achieved if we make a stand together.
#2 by Jeffrey on Sunday, 28 December 2008 - 11:31 am
God father says, “We all know that the extreme right of the DAP has an agenda to ensure that DAP withdraws from PR and gives up the various state governments if necessary….we can infer that they are in support of Ong Ta Kut’s view, and that DAP should boycott the KT by-election because PAS is the greater devil compared to UMNO…”
I don’t recall I have taken that position extrapolated by Godfather in anything I said.
Again I have to redirect and reiterate that my issue here is the way Godfather argues his position not by rebutting the counter party’s arguments on merits but by resorting to labelling and making perojative references and inferences of the counter party whom he disagrees.
#3 by Godfather on Sunday, 28 December 2008 - 11:45 am
You don’t recall, counselor ? You want me to dig up some evidence from the archives ?
The problem with you is that whenever you say “on the one hand, it is this and on the other hand, it is that” you only confuse yourself. Most of the time, you will find that both of your hands are holding only on to one thing – and if you don’t know what that “one thing” is, ask your lapdog. If Cambridge can’t give an answer, Undergrad2 will gladly give you the answer.
#4 by undergrad2 on Sunday, 28 December 2008 - 11:56 am
Who called for me??
#5 by Godfather on Sunday, 28 December 2008 - 12:05 pm
A couple of confused guys need your help !
#6 by vsp on Sunday, 28 December 2008 - 12:07 pm
You all are talking about ‘greater’ or ‘lesser’ evil here. It’s so academic. Now we have an immediate evil and that is UMNO. Remove it now and we can talk further.
#7 by Jeffrey on Sunday, 28 December 2008 - 12:11 pm
Godfather you have in your last posting just provided ‘empirical proof’ of what I said about you. There is no need for me to respond further. It is wasting the time and bandwidth here.
#8 by undergrad2 on Sunday, 28 December 2008 - 12:13 pm
I believe PR needs help. I’m not sure if they need my help!
All this in-fighting between the coalition members bodes ill for the future of the Coaltion. Many feel it is going to happen sooner than later but few expect it to happen this early in the game.
PR leaders need a national pow-wow behind closed doors to thrash out the issues and not wash their dirty linen in public.
Limkaput might smell the dirty linen and thinking nobody is looking steal them to use for himself. We don’t want that!
#9 by Godfather on Sunday, 28 December 2008 - 12:14 pm
Undergrad2:
You’ve chased away my old friend Limkamput (again!) so the only other person I could think of who could assist with my question above would be you.
#10 by undergrad2 on Sunday, 28 December 2008 - 12:22 pm
Jeffrey and this Lee fella deals too much in hypotheticals.
You don’t need me. [ deleted ]
#11 by Godfather on Sunday, 28 December 2008 - 12:23 pm
“Yes, DAP’s (repeated) alliance with PAS is a greater evil than MCA’s acceptance of UMNO’s declaration of Islamic state. DAP should not campaign for PAS in KT.”
Lee Wang Yen said the above yesterday. Supported by his counsel, Jeffrey.
Boot out UMNO first ? No way, these clowns want DAP to exit PR first. They would rather live with the proven corruption in UMNO than to live with the possibilities under a PAS alliance.
In short, they are agreeing with what Ong Ta Kut is saying in the STAR.
#12 by Godfather on Sunday, 28 December 2008 - 12:30 pm
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#13 by undergrad2 on Sunday, 28 December 2008 - 12:32 pm
It is ideology vs pragmatism.
PAS and DAP have always been strange bedfellows, unable and unwilling to consummate the marriage. But who says you must consummate before it could be deemed a marriage?
#14 by undergrad2 on Sunday, 28 December 2008 - 12:35 pm
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#15 by Godfather on Sunday, 28 December 2008 - 12:39 pm
Empirical evidence would suggest that the marriage with little chance of consummation would be headed for greater disasters down the road – so say the academics.
#16 by undergrad2 on Sunday, 28 December 2008 - 12:42 pm
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#17 by Godfather on Sunday, 28 December 2008 - 12:44 pm
I absolutely love the lecture from the Cambridge guy about the principle of equality, as I am sure some other readers do. I love the explanation about equality not being (a) or (b), but having to be (a), (b) or (c) as then (c) could be the compromise. Someone should just explain what happened to (d), (e) and (f) which is already part of BN’s makeup.
#18 by undergrad2 on Sunday, 28 December 2008 - 12:49 pm
Don’t listen too much to these academic types if I were you. Don’t know about Jeffrey but this Lee fella is certainly looking for solutions all iin the wrong places.
#19 by undergrad2 on Sunday, 28 December 2008 - 12:50 pm
He is doing what we expect him to do i.e. teaching everybody the logic of reasoning.
#20 by undergrad2 on Sunday, 28 December 2008 - 12:53 pm
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#21 by Godfather on Sunday, 28 December 2008 - 12:55 pm
This Lee fella will soon find that the solution is in his hands….
#22 by vsp on Sunday, 28 December 2008 - 5:30 pm
Lee Wang Yen:
You are just like Chandra Mushapha. Talk a lot about theories and logic. Perfect on paper but lousy on practical terms.
Look at the mamak Chandra: he was given the chance to implement what he talked but it all turn out to be hokum. He was kicked out of PKR and he became a very bitter man.
Lee, are a plant of the MCA to hookwink commentators on this blog? I wonder
#23 by undergrad2 on Sunday, 28 December 2008 - 5:37 pm
Godfather,
Whatever happened to François-Marie Arouet. Francois who?? You may know him as Voltaire?
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#24 by undergrad2 on Sunday, 28 December 2008 - 5:39 pm
Vsp,
Lee is not a plant. He is a human being.
#25 by Godfather on Sunday, 28 December 2008 - 5:47 pm
The latest:
Lee is going to emulate Lee Kuan Yew in creating a third force in Malaysian politics. Go to the thread before this. He will team up with Jeffrey to woo all anti-PAS voters. Their party is called the Anti Theocratic Party.
undergrad2: what has Voltaire got to do with the censor board ?
#26 by vsp on Sunday, 28 December 2008 - 5:47 pm
Sorry,
Lee, are you a plant of the MCA…
#27 by limkamput on Sunday, 28 December 2008 - 6:34 pm
I see that my good name is being mentioned here and there even though I was busily earning a living unlike this fortunate fellow who just have to go on leveraging on the bankrupt US system to suck the world dry.
To you fellows, listen up good: it does not matter whether it is 929 Islamic State or Hudud, they should all be shafted for good. Which one should go first, I don’t really care. I just know that BOTH of them have to go, the sooner they are laid to rest the better. This country “chia pa siew eng” (I think our stomach is too full), that is why we are forever indulging in all the good for nothing notion about god and religion as if they are going to make a big difference in our life. Religions have been used and reused for political and self interests reasons for centuries and yet somehow we never seem to get it. I see hypocrites and cheats everywhere among the religious institutions. Please keep what your believe private. You are a bloody hypocrite if you impose your religious belief on others. I say this without any qualm, listen up.
#28 by voice2009 on Sunday, 28 December 2008 - 7:58 pm
In Islamic State, non-islam may classified worse than second class citizen, they may classified as the emeny of the state.
It will be unfair to those non-islam citizen definitely.
Don’t try even one, once it converted it will never be any return just like those non-islam converted to islam.
Be warned.
#29 by undergrad2 on Monday, 29 December 2008 - 6:14 am
Limkaput,
We are up and listening!
#30 by undergrad2 on Monday, 29 December 2008 - 6:37 am
Godfather Says:
Yesterday at 12: 55.48
This Lee fella will soon find that the solution is in his hands….”
Yes, that would be when he is standing in front of the urinal.
#31 by undergrad2 on Monday, 29 December 2008 - 6:41 am
“voice2009 Says:
Yesterday at 19: 58.34
In Islamic State, non-islam may classified worse than second class citizen, they may classified as the emeny of the state.”
Which state?? Penang, Selangor, Trengganu, Kelantan?
#32 by ctc537 on Monday, 29 December 2008 - 9:48 am
undergrad2,
You have misread what “voice2009” writes. ‘enemy of the state’ simply means enemy of the country.
#33 by undergrad2 on Monday, 29 December 2008 - 12:28 pm
Just pulling his leg, ctc537.