i have been to forum that often threatens, abuses and bullies posts that contradictory to what they wish to hear!

just ensure the discussion focuses on the topic, no personal attacks!

When I hear DEB/NEP Ketuanan Melayu I think of
Proton, Tenaga, Telekom/TM Net all monopoly business but still can lose money and need gov. support still. And now Angkasawan scandal.

Petronas, well as long as there’s oil its imposable to lose money unless the new CEO and UMNO decide to suck all the profits. Maybe that’s why they are planing a leadership change for Petronas.
Che Khalib, the current Tenaga boss, is said to be eying a Petronas job. GOD help us

These are the true results of DEB/NEP

MAS only came up recently due to competition from Air Asia.
An excellent example of what competition can produce.

1. My professional career contributes to a massive growth to the country
- A statement which is absolutely hard to quantify by all means. I don’t even know which field you are in.

2. I pay tax to the country to alleviate the hardships of the poorer people in the country and also to provide for needed infrastructure
- You pay tax and we really appreciate that, I have heard from a Malay from his mouth saying ‘Orang bodoh baru bayar cukai, saya tak minta dari mereka sudah kira baik’. Putting this aside, you need not forget, high percentage of your tax paid goes to the UMMO cronies, Ali-baba procedures and wastage due to inefficiency of appointed ‘forever learning bumiputra companies and agencies’.

3. I have numerous Non-Malays and professional expatriate working closely with me in the similar environment. Why would I have such jealousy whatsoever towards them?
- The jealousy topic you mentioned should be the other way round, I have the thought you were where you are to fulfill the quota of so-called ethnic diversification. If that’s the case, you just have to thank the wonderful system put in place by your beloved cronies.

4. ‘Give n take’ concept will ONLY work if both parties willing to sacrifice. It is not just one sided. It wouldn’t work if one side demanding others to eradicate their privileges while they themselves not willing to do so.
- kindly name any Non-Malay Privileges? If it is possible to transfer our brains and our hardworking attitudes, it would already be listed under ‘Malay-Privileges’. Guess what, equity and quota are achievable and please look around before you tell me I’m wrong.

5. With regards to the corruption, we have appropriate channel to address that. I believe you’re aware that several ministers/MB were charged for corruption and misconduct. Remember, what happened to ex-Selangor MB in 1976?
- Very well said, in Malaysia wrongdoers will be charged. However, politically connected people won’t be convicted. See what happened to Zakaria in my Hometown Klang with over 20 charges against him? He got away, allowed to keep his Mansion and started eying another piece of land next to it until finally god decide to take him out (Definitely not by your trusted ‘Appropriate Channels’)

6. Why didn’t you appeal if your children scored 10As but got rejected by local U? I believe the Government will consider the entry to avoid the brain drain.
- Do you think those 10A scorers would be too lazy to appeal? Have you any idea how difficult it is to appeal? (Have you experienced it – no?) Imagine you have done your best, yet you still have to appeal for something you actually deserved?

7. ‘Fairness’ – Extremely difficult to achieve in multi racial country. It is undeniable that the majority should get special privileges to address the imbalance of economic equity.
- The above just proven how shallow your thinking is in this whole issue. In a functional country, MINORITY are supposed to be given special privileges. Not the other way round like what you see here. Not to mention, your last sentence just suggested Communism.

Dear Cintanegara,
I really acknowledge your courage to be here commenting against our views. However, posting your views with only information from mainstream media and government sweet lips alone will just make you a laughing stock here.

The problem is that the local racist glasses through which Malaysians view everything are not used overseas. I mention the “M” word to a non-Malaysian, I might as well have said “Arrrr, shiver me timbers, me hearty, deal with me, or I’ll run you through with me cutlass!”. What colour I am is completely immaterial to a non-Malaysian. Where did this point of view come from? I assert without proof and with the warning that I’ll use my worst Anglo Saxon on you that there’s no international conspiracy to paint Malaysia as ‘dishonestly Asia’. Malaysians have earned their reputation with their own ‘hard work’.

Malaysia has a problem with unfairness, and it’s as communal as it is constitutional. Abolishing the NEP without addressing the root cause of Malaysia’s international reputation as the “Black Pearl of Asia” is a complete non-starter. The constitutional obstacle is an easy target because it’s out in the open. The hidden problem that holds Malaysia back is no less important and harder to deal with because it’s unofficial.

Talking about brain drain it reminds me of a conversation many years ago between Tun Razak and Lee Kuan Yew.LKS in the course of the conversation remarked to Razak on the leaving of professionals ‘Are you not worried about the brain drain in your country.’.Razak shot back,’What! You mean trouble drain.’.
This mentality coming from Razak has ever since set the tone in this country as to how non Malays are to be treated.He hasn’t got the slightest concern for the well-being of the nation!

Non malays were treated as third class.

Despite the fact that malays are given special privileges, special quotas & rights in all spheres of life here, like government contracts, scholarships, universities places, civil services jobs, top positions in GLC and civil service, judiciary, legal service, police and army top brass…. you name it they have it in this country, and yet in any businesses and ventures set up by non malays, they have to give malays 30% too.

When we build houses, we must reserve 30% for malays, whether they will buy or not, we have to give 5 to 10% discount to malays.

And these discounts will be at the expense of non malays. In some states like Kedah, 50% of houses built must be reserved at discounted prices for the malays, why? Non malays aren’t human beings too? We also need to live and eat and work, but whatever non malays struggled and succeeded, 30% must be handed out to malays, besides all the special privileges and treatment guaranteed by the constitution?

Isn’t such a situation worse that those colonial days for non malays? At least all were equal under the laws then.

I do think that the article is kind of aggressive, but at least it offers an alternative perspective for MORONS like you to see. But you just reject it without further considerations, don’t you think that you are ignorant?

Your so-called GREAT contributions? Many are doing that as well, I see no weight in your works.

“Undeniable”, I dare to say that Malaysia is the only country doing so. Please list out another example?

You don’t have jealousy, but you have fear towards fair competition, as simple as that.

I was rejected by Local U for my first 5 choices of course, but was awarded scholarship in a foreign countries, while some people get admitted with numerous B’s, so? I don’t see any sincerity in the local education system in avoiding brain drain. Perhaps they treasure people like you.

Have you seen US whites mentioning to the African American that – “I brought you here, granted you citizenship. Hence, I shall have privileges which you shouldn’t have”? In other hand, I see affirmative actions given to those who really need it.

Don’t be defensive all the time. Spend a little bit of time to think from the perspectives of Chinese, Indians, Kadazans, Dusuns, Ibans, etc etc

But it completely misses the point. Economic imbalance is a fact of life. Some love it, some wish for more equal distribution. Basing the system of penalty / favour on colour is collective punishment for non-kopi-coloured, and indiscriminate favour for kopi-coloured. If you are non-kopi-coloured and wish and act for fairness – you are the most penalised of all. If you are kopi-coloured and wish and act selfishly, you are the most favoured of all. On both sides, the Malaysians of whatever colour who wish and act for fairness are the ones who get the worst deal – there is no incentive to act fairly.

A fairer, more difficult to operate system would be based on means alone. If one colour Malaysian is disproportionately poorer, they would be disproportionately favoured by a means-tested rule. If one colour Malaysian is disproportionately richer, then they will pay more tax. Tax the rich, help the poor: if there’s racial imbalance in earnings, there’ll be racial imbalance of payments. If (IF!) there’s an immutable correlation between race and earnings, there’ll be a corresponding immutable relationship between race and support. Such a scheme penalises the richest (which is what poor and reasonable people want) and supports the poor (which is what reasonable and poor people want).

If (IF!) there was the slightest possibility that an imbalance existed because of anti-social financial practices, the reasonable (but requires effort) response would be to enact strict business laws governing anti-social ways of doing business. You can’t sell this last option to anyone. Poor people don’t understand – it doesn’t say anything about sunburn, blistered hands and children handicapped through disease their parents can’t afford to treat. Rich people will hate it and instruct their pet journalists to say bad things about it, which poor people will believe, because they want to be like the rich person and have a Mercedes and dangly jewelled accessories for their handphones. But it really is the only way to fairly fight unfairly acquired imbalance.

If someone complained about anti-unfairness rules, you could laugh in their face, and I would stand next to you laughing too. Giving government handouts to kopi-coloured people who drive Mercedes isn’t funny – it’s idiotic. It’s time for the Malaysian poor to form a community around their most pressing common issue, and not the most superficial.

Really! ‘Undeniable’ it seems.That’s very insightful.I always thought that it is a ploy for a special group of priveleged Malays to clean the coffers of the nation.

cintanegara is a product of the NEP. He is sitting pretty in the bus, and he is not about to give way to those who are more in need of the seat. He is also telling us that if he has to get off the bus, his seat is reserved for one of his own kind only. If you want a seat, go to another bus, don’t appeal to him to give up his seat.

Don’t be angry at those who have come up through the crutch system perpetuated by UMNO. Reason with a cool head. Just vote wisely.

Limited resources are not efficiently and optimally utilised = wastage.
How long can the oil revenue last to sustain all these wastage???

God bless Malaysia.

The BN MP have not ask for your back side for power yet? Meh,

Why you so free to posted your stupid commend here?

‘Fairness’ – Extremely difficult to achieve in multi racial country. It is undeniable that the majority should get special privileges to address the imbalance of economic equity.
What kind of stupid answer you sent here?

The NEP policy only benefit few bunch of corrupted people connect to UMNO. Where the rural Malay is in poor shape. Is this what you called fairness?

You should ask those professional expatriacte to tell you f..k off from their office else you are insulted them using their name to insulted human rights posted by you, all expatricate fully respect human rights.

You supported children 10As is not brain drain rejected by local but government took it as brain drain if they dont accept the Malays even his/her is only 5Cs.

We can see you are 99.9% racist.

Your special position on others for over 51 years is earned by cheating on others, refused others demand for review.

Your special position is supposed to help you instead now you are using it to oppress other races in Malaysia, it is totally abusing and unacceptable.

Like I said,

YOUR CURRENT SPECIAL POSITION OVER OTHERS FOR OVER 51 YEARS IS EARNBED BY CHEATING, REFUSED OTHERS DEMAND FOR REVIEW.

DO YOU GOT IT? CHEATING

you know, mohd. ali ismail, the best way to end vernacular schools is to bring the kebangsaan schools’ standard above those of the vernacular type.

that way, all typical kiasu parents will automatically line their children in the kebangsaan school to enrol them! which parents do not wish the best education foe their children?

1. My professional career contributes to a massive growth to the country
2. I pay tax to the country to alleviate the hardships of the poorer people in the country and also to provide for needed infrastructure
3. I have numerous Non-Malays and professional expatriate working closely with me in the similar environment. Why would I have such jealousy whatsoever towards them?
4. ‘Give n take’ concept will ONLY work if both parties willing to sacrifice. It is not just one sided. It wouldn’t work if one side demanding others to eradicate their privileges while they themselves not willing to do so.
5. With regards to the corruption, we have appropriate channel to address that. I believe you’re aware that several ministers/MB were charged for corruption and misconduct. Remember, what happened to ex-Selangor MB in 1976?
6. Why didn’t you appeal if your children scored 10As but got rejected by local U? I believe the Government will consider the entry to avoid the brain drain.
7. ‘Fairness’ – Extremely difficult to achieve in multi racial country. It is undeniable that the majority should get special privileges to address the imbalance of economic equity.

but one would assume that after all so many years of living together, we could share our fears and doubts without fear of backlash. sadly it isnt so.

dear cintanegara, whats your remedy my friend?