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		<title>By: ktteokt</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/11/24/isa-yes-we-can/comment-page-1/#comment-149068</link>
		<dc:creator>ktteokt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 02:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sakai laws are meant for sakais in sakai times! Can it be used today in such an advanced and modern society??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sakai laws are meant for sakais in sakai times! Can it be used today in such an advanced and modern society??</p>
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		<title>By: zak_hammaad</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/11/24/isa-yes-we-can/comment-page-1/#comment-148482</link>
		<dc:creator>zak_hammaad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 10:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One4All4One, why must you sensationalise a simple issue and why must you (as pro DAP) try to score cheap political points against anyone who does not share their views and understandings? Let me clarify a little... A fatwa in legal terms is an &#039;informed decision&#039; that is non-binding UNLESS it is gazetted by a government and made into law (this is not going to happen in Malaysia on this issue).

The Fatwa council clearly stated that it is when the 3 elements of exercise, chanting and prayer are combined that makes yoga haram. Physical exercise on it&#039;s own is allowed but discouraged by the council and it&#039;s the prerogative of individual Muslims to best determine their circumstance. Clearly the council should have clarified the matter in simple terms as it had the possibility of becoming &#039;controversial&#039; (as it has become) - A comprehensive follow-up is usually given by the council after a fatwa is released, it is unfortunate that after a month, this has not been forthcoming.

It is true that the ruling is specifically for the Muslims and enacted as a guidance for them; it is non-bonding and at the end of the day, each Muslim will evaluate how much this will affect them or indeed if they want to abandon the physical aspect of yoga altogether.

My advise to fellow Muslims is this: If you feel this fatwa makes sense to your personal circumstance and in some way yoga can compromise your faith, then leave it. If you feel that the physical aspect of yoga is like any other exercise and keeps you in good shape, then stick with it.

My advise to DAP: A fatwa is circumspect to the situation of a people in a particular locality. It does not need consensus or support from other regions or countries to become &#039;valid&#039;; therefore your piece on S&#039;pore was a misnomer with all due respect.

Good evening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One4All4One, why must you sensationalise a simple issue and why must you (as pro DAP) try to score cheap political points against anyone who does not share their views and understandings? Let me clarify a little&#8230; A fatwa in legal terms is an &#8216;informed decision&#8217; that is non-binding UNLESS it is gazetted by a government and made into law (this is not going to happen in Malaysia on this issue).</p>
<p>The Fatwa council clearly stated that it is when the 3 elements of exercise, chanting and prayer are combined that makes yoga haram. Physical exercise on it&#8217;s own is allowed but discouraged by the council and it&#8217;s the prerogative of individual Muslims to best determine their circumstance. Clearly the council should have clarified the matter in simple terms as it had the possibility of becoming &#8216;controversial&#8217; (as it has become) &#8211; A comprehensive follow-up is usually given by the council after a fatwa is released, it is unfortunate that after a month, this has not been forthcoming.</p>
<p>It is true that the ruling is specifically for the Muslims and enacted as a guidance for them; it is non-bonding and at the end of the day, each Muslim will evaluate how much this will affect them or indeed if they want to abandon the physical aspect of yoga altogether.</p>
<p>My advise to fellow Muslims is this: If you feel this fatwa makes sense to your personal circumstance and in some way yoga can compromise your faith, then leave it. If you feel that the physical aspect of yoga is like any other exercise and keeps you in good shape, then stick with it.</p>
<p>My advise to DAP: A fatwa is circumspect to the situation of a people in a particular locality. It does not need consensus or support from other regions or countries to become &#8216;valid&#8217;; therefore your piece on S&#8217;pore was a misnomer with all due respect.</p>
<p>Good evening.</p>
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		<title>By: jus legitimum</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/11/24/isa-yes-we-can/comment-page-1/#comment-148355</link>
		<dc:creator>jus legitimum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The idiots are at work again.They are also the greatest hypocrites in the nation&#039;s history who practise double standard shamelessly.Let&#039;s join hands to throw this bunch of human trash out of bolehland asap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idiots are at work again.They are also the greatest hypocrites in the nation&#8217;s history who practise double standard shamelessly.Let&#8217;s join hands to throw this bunch of human trash out of bolehland asap.</p>
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		<title>By: One4All4One</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/11/24/isa-yes-we-can/comment-page-1/#comment-148353</link>
		<dc:creator>One4All4One</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 05:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s where the problem lies.

Protected positions = special privileges = power = easy money = easy luxurious life = comfort zone = what you name it, ad infinitum.

It is also = idleness = indolence = low mentality = laziness = primitiveness = what you could name it.

Which also leads to, on a wider scale, prejudice = discrimination = racism = bigotry = inequality = holier than thou = inconveniences to other = corruption = racial politics = embezzlement = plundering = supremacist attitude = whatever you can name it.

That&#039;s the reason there is a need for real, real change to the whole system.

Hope more people could see the real issues and not blow things out of proportion or offer prejudicial views.

Let&#039;s call a spade a spade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s where the problem lies.</p>
<p>Protected positions = special privileges = power = easy money = easy luxurious life = comfort zone = what you name it, ad infinitum.</p>
<p>It is also = idleness = indolence = low mentality = laziness = primitiveness = what you could name it.</p>
<p>Which also leads to, on a wider scale, prejudice = discrimination = racism = bigotry = inequality = holier than thou = inconveniences to other = corruption = racial politics = embezzlement = plundering = supremacist attitude = whatever you can name it.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the reason there is a need for real, real change to the whole system.</p>
<p>Hope more people could see the real issues and not blow things out of proportion or offer prejudicial views.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s call a spade a spade.</p>
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		<title>By: frankyapp</title>
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		<dc:creator>frankyapp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 05:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey one 4 all, you know these UMNOputras and warloads,will not exchange for anything to leave their comfort zone. That&#039;s it and nothing less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey one 4 all, you know these UMNOputras and warloads,will not exchange for anything to leave their comfort zone. That&#8217;s it and nothing less.</p>
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		<title>By: One4All4One</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/11/24/isa-yes-we-can/comment-page-1/#comment-148346</link>
		<dc:creator>One4All4One</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 04:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, agreed, those pictures show the stark prejudice, discrimination and double standards of the powers-that-be.

It shows the primitive and infantile mentality of those bigots and hypocrites.

Obviously they belong to interest groups out to paint a bad picture of others who are sensible and crying for justice and equitable treatments. What is wrong with asking for justice to be served and delivered to the rakyat, anyway? Only those who are selfish enough to demand for special rights, treatments, privileges and all things that seem desirable to themselves, would resort to such underhand and dirty tactics.

If one is able, honest, hard-working, sincere, fair, reliable, accountable, have common-sense, have integrity, sensible, morally balanced, etc., etc., one would not have asked for dole and unfair advantages, but to work one&#039;s way up and towards the desired objectives.

There is no end to asking for and giving out dole and privileges, even though one could have access to such unfair advantages.

Isn&#039;t it more honourable and proper for everyone to work for one&#039;s keep? Unless a person is truly handicapped and disabled, one should rely on the God-given faculties and abilities to work and earn a living. Isn&#039;t it &quot;to work is to worship&quot;?

No one is questioning the &quot;principles&quot; enshrined in the constitution. But aren&#039;t constitutions man-made? And as such are subject to change with changing condition and situations. Why not change for the better? Why are some people so afraid of changes? Only they themselves know best. It could be for the protection of the position, privileges and interests.

If one works rightly and are learned and smart, one could even earn much better perks, benefits and privileges; much much better than those provided for by any constitutions or agreements. Why settle for less when more could be obtained if one so desires?

Pity those who remain so ignorant of what &quot;life outside of the confines of constitution&quot; could offer. Unless, of course, if one chooses to remain idle and indolent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, agreed, those pictures show the stark prejudice, discrimination and double standards of the powers-that-be.</p>
<p>It shows the primitive and infantile mentality of those bigots and hypocrites.</p>
<p>Obviously they belong to interest groups out to paint a bad picture of others who are sensible and crying for justice and equitable treatments. What is wrong with asking for justice to be served and delivered to the rakyat, anyway? Only those who are selfish enough to demand for special rights, treatments, privileges and all things that seem desirable to themselves, would resort to such underhand and dirty tactics.</p>
<p>If one is able, honest, hard-working, sincere, fair, reliable, accountable, have common-sense, have integrity, sensible, morally balanced, etc., etc., one would not have asked for dole and unfair advantages, but to work one&#8217;s way up and towards the desired objectives.</p>
<p>There is no end to asking for and giving out dole and privileges, even though one could have access to such unfair advantages.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t it more honourable and proper for everyone to work for one&#8217;s keep? Unless a person is truly handicapped and disabled, one should rely on the God-given faculties and abilities to work and earn a living. Isn&#8217;t it &#8220;to work is to worship&#8221;?</p>
<p>No one is questioning the &#8220;principles&#8221; enshrined in the constitution. But aren&#8217;t constitutions man-made? And as such are subject to change with changing condition and situations. Why not change for the better? Why are some people so afraid of changes? Only they themselves know best. It could be for the protection of the position, privileges and interests.</p>
<p>If one works rightly and are learned and smart, one could even earn much better perks, benefits and privileges; much much better than those provided for by any constitutions or agreements. Why settle for less when more could be obtained if one so desires?</p>
<p>Pity those who remain so ignorant of what &#8220;life outside of the confines of constitution&#8221; could offer. Unless, of course, if one chooses to remain idle and indolent.</p>
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		<title>By: frankyapp</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/11/24/isa-yes-we-can/comment-page-1/#comment-148341</link>
		<dc:creator>frankyapp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 04:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys,didn&#039;t i tell you guys before in bolehland,things are done in an opposite ways.Now you guys are witnessing pro-ISA street demonstration,our mata mata said is okay,urocopter deals untransparently,it&#039;s okay, oceanarium project without proper enviromental report,it&#039;s okay,killing people with C4,it&#039;s okay,pempena scandal ,it&#039;s okay, UNMO MP shouting the word &quot; bastard &quot; it&#039;s okay, spenting rakyat&#039;s money on 40 or more BN&#039;s MP to Taiwan unnescessarily,it&#039;s okay,declaring haram joga, women wearing trousers and women travelling alone to overseas,etc etc,etc.the list will be endless And it&#039;s all okay,okay,okay.Some time I really wonder whether I am in a dream in this country,Malaysia,a place I call home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys,didn&#8217;t i tell you guys before in bolehland,things are done in an opposite ways.Now you guys are witnessing pro-ISA street demonstration,our mata mata said is okay,urocopter deals untransparently,it&#8217;s okay, oceanarium project without proper enviromental report,it&#8217;s okay,killing people with C4,it&#8217;s okay,pempena scandal ,it&#8217;s okay, UNMO MP shouting the word &#8221; bastard &#8221; it&#8217;s okay, spenting rakyat&#8217;s money on 40 or more BN&#8217;s MP to Taiwan unnescessarily,it&#8217;s okay,declaring haram joga, women wearing trousers and women travelling alone to overseas,etc etc,etc.the list will be endless And it&#8217;s all okay,okay,okay.Some time I really wonder whether I am in a dream in this country,Malaysia,a place I call home.</p>
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		<title>By: One4All4One</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/11/24/isa-yes-we-can/comment-page-1/#comment-148340</link>
		<dc:creator>One4All4One</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 04:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember that a vote MCA, Gerakan, and other BN component parties is a vote for.....

We can make a difference come the next GE.

We choose the government of the day be it the state or the federal.

The answer is in our hands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember that a vote MCA, Gerakan, and other BN component parties is a vote for&#8230;..</p>
<p>We can make a difference come the next GE.</p>
<p>We choose the government of the day be it the state or the federal.</p>
<p>The answer is in our hands.</p>
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		<title>By: chengho</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/11/24/isa-yes-we-can/comment-page-1/#comment-148311</link>
		<dc:creator>chengho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 00:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why we need rally when we have Parliment 
we do not want to be like Bangkok  5 yrs street rally 2 Ge still 
they cannot organise their country  
If you come to Parliment we can see great debate  kicking and alive like never before from both opposing camp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why we need rally when we have Parliment<br />
we do not want to be like Bangkok  5 yrs street rally 2 Ge still<br />
they cannot organise their country<br />
If you come to Parliment we can see great debate  kicking and alive like never before from both opposing camp.</p>
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		<title>By: k1980</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/11/24/isa-yes-we-can/comment-page-1/#comment-148310</link>
		<dc:creator>k1980</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 00:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To all those who voted BN on 8.3.08

Without the isa
umno can&#039;t hang on to power
So those against isa 
Are also against umno</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all those who voted BN on 8.3.08</p>
<p>Without the isa<br />
umno can&#8217;t hang on to power<br />
So those against isa<br />
Are also against umno</p>
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		<title>By: Jong</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/11/24/isa-yes-we-can/comment-page-1/#comment-148307</link>
		<dc:creator>Jong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 17:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those pics speak a thousand words. So it&#039;s ok for those rowdy samsengs to go on street protest but not those ordinary civilians on peaceful candlelight vigils? This confirm there are two sets of law in this country - one for UMNO and another for ordinary Malaysians who are not with UMNO.

Are they so afraid, guilty and insecured that those candles will burn down this UMNO-led government?  Was it necessary that truckloads of FRUs be sent to breakup those peaceful vigils?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those pics speak a thousand words. So it&#8217;s ok for those rowdy samsengs to go on street protest but not those ordinary civilians on peaceful candlelight vigils? This confirm there are two sets of law in this country &#8211; one for UMNO and another for ordinary Malaysians who are not with UMNO.</p>
<p>Are they so afraid, guilty and insecured that those candles will burn down this UMNO-led government?  Was it necessary that truckloads of FRUs be sent to breakup those peaceful vigils?</p>
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		<title>By: Snippets of what delCapo&#8217;s been missing&#8230; &#171; delCapo</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/11/24/isa-yes-we-can/comment-page-1/#comment-148303</link>
		<dc:creator>Snippets of what delCapo&#8217;s been missing&#8230; &#171; delCapo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 17:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] LKS&#8217;s post shows what a bunch of hypocrites &amp; double standard pricks still call the shots up there in law [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] LKS&#8217;s post shows what a bunch of hypocrites &amp; double standard pricks still call the shots up there in law [...]</p>
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		<title>By: sms</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/11/24/isa-yes-we-can/comment-page-1/#comment-148298</link>
		<dc:creator>sms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the Federal Constitution, all non-bumiputra Malaysian have given the rights to voice their opinions for the review of the Malay Privilege.

These rights was given and signed by the Independent Father Tunku Abdul Rahman and the Sultans the Malay rulers.

If anybody take these Rights away from you for theirs own interest protection. Stop you to voice your opinions the review of Malay/Bumiputra Privilege. 

Then they have dishonored the Sultans the Malay rulers who signed and given you this Rights in the Federal Constitution of Independent.

They protect theirs own interest at the expense of dishonoring the Sultans the Malay rulers.

It is a serious offence to the Sultans the Malay rulers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the Federal Constitution, all non-bumiputra Malaysian have given the rights to voice their opinions for the review of the Malay Privilege.</p>
<p>These rights was given and signed by the Independent Father Tunku Abdul Rahman and the Sultans the Malay rulers.</p>
<p>If anybody take these Rights away from you for theirs own interest protection. Stop you to voice your opinions the review of Malay/Bumiputra Privilege. </p>
<p>Then they have dishonored the Sultans the Malay rulers who signed and given you this Rights in the Federal Constitution of Independent.</p>
<p>They protect theirs own interest at the expense of dishonoring the Sultans the Malay rulers.</p>
<p>It is a serious offence to the Sultans the Malay rulers.</p>
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		<title>By: izrafeil</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/11/24/isa-yes-we-can/comment-page-1/#comment-148297</link>
		<dc:creator>izrafeil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YB Lim,
God allowing, keep the ISA just yet, for the time being until Pakatan Rakyat helms the nation and then use it against dissidents....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YB Lim,<br />
God allowing, keep the ISA just yet, for the time being until Pakatan Rakyat helms the nation and then use it against dissidents&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: One4All4One</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/11/24/isa-yes-we-can/comment-page-1/#comment-148294</link>
		<dc:creator>One4All4One</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My apologies for a digression; excerpt from Malaysian Insider:  


&quot;&quot;  Yoga: No ban for Muslims in Selangor... yet

SHAH ALAM, Nov 24 — Selangor Sultan Sharafuddin Idris Shah said today that the ban on Muslims practising yoga has yet to be enforced in the state as the matter needs to be studied in greater detail.

His statement today appears to be an exertion of control to state the simple principle that matters of the Islamic religion is under the purview of the Sultans and state Rulers, instead of the federal government.

It is also another example of the Malay Rulers flexing their muscles since the March 8 general election.

In a press statement, the Sultan said that the Selangor Fatwa Committee, which is chaired by state mufti Datuk Mohd Tamyes Abdul Wahid, will meet soon to study the matter in detail so that a decision is not made hastily.

In accordance with state laws, matters touching on Islam will require the Sultan&#039;s approval after the committee has deliberated on the issue.

The Sultan said that he hoped that in future any edict that affected the general public would be referred to the Rulers’ Conference.

He said that this was to avoid confusion or controversy so that implementation would be carried out in a wise manner. &quot;&quot; 


Some overzealous people who are for the fatwa to be implemented and imposed even called for the police to arrest those who are against the order. 

What are they going to tell HRH Sultan of Selangor? Could those residing in Selangor who are for the proposal be considered as going against the order of Sultan and be dealt with?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My apologies for a digression; excerpt from Malaysian Insider:  </p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;  Yoga: No ban for Muslims in Selangor&#8230; yet</p>
<p>SHAH ALAM, Nov 24 — Selangor Sultan Sharafuddin Idris Shah said today that the ban on Muslims practising yoga has yet to be enforced in the state as the matter needs to be studied in greater detail.</p>
<p>His statement today appears to be an exertion of control to state the simple principle that matters of the Islamic religion is under the purview of the Sultans and state Rulers, instead of the federal government.</p>
<p>It is also another example of the Malay Rulers flexing their muscles since the March 8 general election.</p>
<p>In a press statement, the Sultan said that the Selangor Fatwa Committee, which is chaired by state mufti Datuk Mohd Tamyes Abdul Wahid, will meet soon to study the matter in detail so that a decision is not made hastily.</p>
<p>In accordance with state laws, matters touching on Islam will require the Sultan&#8217;s approval after the committee has deliberated on the issue.</p>
<p>The Sultan said that he hoped that in future any edict that affected the general public would be referred to the Rulers’ Conference.</p>
<p>He said that this was to avoid confusion or controversy so that implementation would be carried out in a wise manner. &#8220;&#8221; </p>
<p>Some overzealous people who are for the fatwa to be implemented and imposed even called for the police to arrest those who are against the order. </p>
<p>What are they going to tell HRH Sultan of Selangor? Could those residing in Selangor who are for the proposal be considered as going against the order of Sultan and be dealt with?</p>
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		<title>By: irritated</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/11/24/isa-yes-we-can/comment-page-1/#comment-148291</link>
		<dc:creator>irritated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 13:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pewaris ask people not to raise racial issues. What was the banner asking for 70% equity for Malays and not stopping at 30% doing at their rally? What IRONY. 

Pewaris is BLIND to their own actions. Because the woman was telling them they were Racist and therefore against Islam, they could not stand the truth - they chose to expose yet another shame on Muslim act – by showing violence to her. 

Who is the one mocking Islam? – Pewaris themselves! They are delusional people who think they have the right to control and demand others’ behaviour without checking themselves. 

As for the Police, they only know how to &#039;Chiak Sai&#039; - for their partiallity</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pewaris ask people not to raise racial issues. What was the banner asking for 70% equity for Malays and not stopping at 30% doing at their rally? What IRONY. </p>
<p>Pewaris is BLIND to their own actions. Because the woman was telling them they were Racist and therefore against Islam, they could not stand the truth &#8211; they chose to expose yet another shame on Muslim act – by showing violence to her. </p>
<p>Who is the one mocking Islam? – Pewaris themselves! They are delusional people who think they have the right to control and demand others’ behaviour without checking themselves. </p>
<p>As for the Police, they only know how to &#8216;Chiak Sai&#8217; &#8211; for their partiallity</p>
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		<title>By: zak_hammaad</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/11/24/isa-yes-we-can/comment-page-1/#comment-148290</link>
		<dc:creator>zak_hammaad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 13:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tonberry Says:

&gt;&gt; This is one of the main reasons why this country cannot advance; 

The ISA protected this country in the past and it will continue to meet the threats of the future.

The &#039;fanatics&#039;  that you speak of, are in both camps and the way to reconcile and reach a consensus on this matter is by reworking the ISA to address the current and ever evolving threats to protect Malaysia&#039;s interests. 

The pro and anti-ISA fanatics have their own selfish (political or otherwise) agenda in play, so no one should hold their breath as to any amendments that are needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tonberry Says:</p>
<p>&gt;&gt; This is one of the main reasons why this country cannot advance; </p>
<p>The ISA protected this country in the past and it will continue to meet the threats of the future.</p>
<p>The &#8216;fanatics&#8217;  that you speak of, are in both camps and the way to reconcile and reach a consensus on this matter is by reworking the ISA to address the current and ever evolving threats to protect Malaysia&#8217;s interests. </p>
<p>The pro and anti-ISA fanatics have their own selfish (political or otherwise) agenda in play, so no one should hold their breath as to any amendments that are needed.</p>
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		<title>By: storm62</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/11/24/isa-yes-we-can/comment-page-1/#comment-148288</link>
		<dc:creator>storm62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 12:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what happened to the woman who was chased by so many protestors  on the predestrian bridge in KL and while getting into her car, some Pewaris members even kick at her car.

i saw this video on NTV7 news last night, can somebody upload it on youtube for the world to see?

YB Lim, i hope you can get your hands into this video and help this lady out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what happened to the woman who was chased by so many protestors  on the predestrian bridge in KL and while getting into her car, some Pewaris members even kick at her car.</p>
<p>i saw this video on NTV7 news last night, can somebody upload it on youtube for the world to see?</p>
<p>YB Lim, i hope you can get your hands into this video and help this lady out.</p>
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		<title>By: cemerlang</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/11/24/isa-yes-we-can/comment-page-1/#comment-148285</link>
		<dc:creator>cemerlang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 11:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imagine yourself as the very first Malaysian astronaut to reach the space station. Before you took off, what were your feelings ? Very excited. Very curious. Very frightened. Fear of the unknown. If the goment never sent you to space using the people’s money, you would be contented being just a doctor because you have control over your life.  Just like the ISA. It is a security blanket for those who just want to remain in the past and have everything intact and in control. At least there is physical peace.  Then, an official letter arrived and you were chosen to go to space. Like the tsunami of March 8 that has arrived. You began to have all the feelings described earlier.  It turned your world upside down. Later, you came back to Earth to a big hero’s welcome. Now you are earning RM 8000 per motivation talk you give. Looks like you will have a very bright future. As for the tsunami March 8, what effects will it have for the future ? Some think that people should be given the chance to speak his or her mind if he or she is slapped with the ISA. The ISA is not the nuclear bomb meant to wipe out the life of anyone. It is an act of the law. If other acts are used during a court’s proceedings, why can’t the ISA function in a similar way ? Bring the victim to court and hear him or her out before a judgement is passed and a sentence given. Then, there will be transparency. That is if you still want to hold on to your precious ISA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine yourself as the very first Malaysian astronaut to reach the space station. Before you took off, what were your feelings ? Very excited. Very curious. Very frightened. Fear of the unknown. If the goment never sent you to space using the people’s money, you would be contented being just a doctor because you have control over your life.  Just like the ISA. It is a security blanket for those who just want to remain in the past and have everything intact and in control. At least there is physical peace.  Then, an official letter arrived and you were chosen to go to space. Like the tsunami of March 8 that has arrived. You began to have all the feelings described earlier.  It turned your world upside down. Later, you came back to Earth to a big hero’s welcome. Now you are earning RM 8000 per motivation talk you give. Looks like you will have a very bright future. As for the tsunami March 8, what effects will it have for the future ? Some think that people should be given the chance to speak his or her mind if he or she is slapped with the ISA. The ISA is not the nuclear bomb meant to wipe out the life of anyone. It is an act of the law. If other acts are used during a court’s proceedings, why can’t the ISA function in a similar way ? Bring the victim to court and hear him or her out before a judgement is passed and a sentence given. Then, there will be transparency. That is if you still want to hold on to your precious ISA.</p>
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		<title>By: yhsiew</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/11/24/isa-yes-we-can/comment-page-1/#comment-148284</link>
		<dc:creator>yhsiew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 11:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Originally the ISA was intended to be used on terrorists.  Political dissidents are not to be categorized as terrorists - they are just ordinary people having opinions different from those that are officially accepted.

Unfortunately, time and again, the government has mis-used the ISA as a &quot;weapon&quot; to weaken the influence of the Opposition party. Such abuse of the ISA must be condemned in the strictest sense of the terms as it grossly violates the democratic principle of freedom of expression.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Originally the ISA was intended to be used on terrorists.  Political dissidents are not to be categorized as terrorists &#8211; they are just ordinary people having opinions different from those that are officially accepted.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, time and again, the government has mis-used the ISA as a &#8220;weapon&#8221; to weaken the influence of the Opposition party. Such abuse of the ISA must be condemned in the strictest sense of the terms as it grossly violates the democratic principle of freedom of expression.</p>
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