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		<title>By: PELAWAK GILAKAL BUAT SPIN PROPAGANDA KELABU &#171; Aberamly&#8217;s Weblog</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/11/05/obama%e2%80%99s-historic-win-%e2%80%93-can-a-chinese-indian-kadazan-or-iban-become-prime-minister/comment-page-5/#comment-146389</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 03:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Dan siapa Obama&#8230; baca posting Abe terdahulu&#8230; kalau tak tahu&#8230; jangan GILAKAL lah&#8230;. tolonglah Abe dah stress ni! Obama’s historic win – can a Chinese, Indian, Kadazan or Iban become Prime Minister? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Dan siapa Obama&#8230; baca posting Abe terdahulu&#8230; kalau tak tahu&#8230; jangan GILAKAL lah&#8230;. tolonglah Abe dah stress ni! Obama’s historic win – can a Chinese, Indian, Kadazan or Iban become Prime Minister? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: oedipus</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/11/05/obama%e2%80%99s-historic-win-%e2%80%93-can-a-chinese-indian-kadazan-or-iban-become-prime-minister/comment-page-5/#comment-146205</link>
		<dc:creator>oedipus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 02:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but guys, to revamp and reconcile our vernacular schools and kebangsaan school will never see the lite of day under the current ruling coalition. why? because they have to many &#039;vested&#039; interest to allow proper governance and educators to do their job.
 
fact: vernacular schools can never be closed.

factr: however we can make kebangsaan school more attractive than vernacular schools ie better educators, management, facilities and a more competitive syllabi. take away skin colour and religion, let the best educator educate our children. let the best and competitive education system mold our children to their best potential!

question is: does the government REALLY wants critical thinking young adults (the future of Maklaysia) or they prefer drones that will do what is told, believe what is spoken and incapable to realise their full potential?

that is the reason i think why our education system produces large batches or drones all lacking inner depth and actualization. just ask your child he/she wants to score all A&#039;s, or do he/she learn because he/she enjoys learning?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but guys, to revamp and reconcile our vernacular schools and kebangsaan school will never see the lite of day under the current ruling coalition. why? because they have to many &#8216;vested&#8217; interest to allow proper governance and educators to do their job.</p>
<p>fact: vernacular schools can never be closed.</p>
<p>factr: however we can make kebangsaan school more attractive than vernacular schools ie better educators, management, facilities and a more competitive syllabi. take away skin colour and religion, let the best educator educate our children. let the best and competitive education system mold our children to their best potential!</p>
<p>question is: does the government REALLY wants critical thinking young adults (the future of Maklaysia) or they prefer drones that will do what is told, believe what is spoken and incapable to realise their full potential?</p>
<p>that is the reason i think why our education system produces large batches or drones all lacking inner depth and actualization. just ask your child he/she wants to score all A&#8217;s, or do he/she learn because he/she enjoys learning?</p>
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		<title>By: AhPek</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/11/05/obama%e2%80%99s-historic-win-%e2%80%93-can-a-chinese-indian-kadazan-or-iban-become-prime-minister/comment-page-5/#comment-146187</link>
		<dc:creator>AhPek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 00:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I won&#039;t be wrong to state that nowhere else in the world can you find a heterogeneos nation with such an overwhelming majority in a single ethnic group like what you find in Singapore (Chinese 75.2% of population).In America the English or the Irish or the French or the Germans or the Spaniards and in fact none of the other groups come even anywhere near to Singapore&#039;s Chinese population.Thus in fact BG Lee is not making a racialist statement neither is he making a declaration of a preference.He is merely stating the reality of the Singapore situation when he states that &quot;Only Chinese for PM for Now...............&quot;.He is not stating that Malay or Indian or Euracian cannot be PM,unlike in Malaysia where they state that a Chinese cannot be even an acting general manager in a government organisation such as PKNS.That&#039;s the main difference between a racist government and a non racist government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I won&#8217;t be wrong to state that nowhere else in the world can you find a heterogeneos nation with such an overwhelming majority in a single ethnic group like what you find in Singapore (Chinese 75.2% of population).In America the English or the Irish or the French or the Germans or the Spaniards and in fact none of the other groups come even anywhere near to Singapore&#8217;s Chinese population.Thus in fact BG Lee is not making a racialist statement neither is he making a declaration of a preference.He is merely stating the reality of the Singapore situation when he states that &#8220;Only Chinese for PM for Now&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8221;.He is not stating that Malay or Indian or Euracian cannot be PM,unlike in Malaysia where they state that a Chinese cannot be even an acting general manager in a government organisation such as PKNS.That&#8217;s the main difference between a racist government and a non racist government.</p>
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		<title>By: chengho</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/11/05/obama%e2%80%99s-historic-win-%e2%80%93-can-a-chinese-indian-kadazan-or-iban-become-prime-minister/comment-page-5/#comment-146182</link>
		<dc:creator>chengho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 00:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BG Lee of singapore very clear on this issue &#039; Only Chinese for PM for Now , to reach a position where everbody is totally race-blind and religion-blind ,i think that&#039;s very difficult &#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BG Lee of singapore very clear on this issue &#8216; Only Chinese for PM for Now , to reach a position where everbody is totally race-blind and religion-blind ,i think that&#8217;s very difficult &#8216;</p>
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		<title>By: kapcai72</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/11/05/obama%e2%80%99s-historic-win-%e2%80%93-can-a-chinese-indian-kadazan-or-iban-become-prime-minister/comment-page-5/#comment-146109</link>
		<dc:creator>kapcai72</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 11:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tidak salah jika kita memiliki seorang PM berketurunan Cina, India, Melayu, Kadazan, Iban, Mamak, etc. Hatta keturunan Jepun pun saya terima, ASALKAN PM itu mesti beragama ISLAM, elok moralnya, baik budi pekerti dan beriman kepada ALLAH.

Kalau dia Melayu sekalipun tetapi tidak mengucapkan dua kalimah syahadah maka SAYA AKAN TOLAK tak kira lah dia calon parti PAS, UMNO, MIC, DAP, MCA, PKR, etc.

Saya bersetuju dengan konsep satu sekolah. No more SRA, Sekolah Cina, Tamil, etc. etc. Sepatutnya semua elemen yang wujud didalam sistem persekolahan yang ada sekarang diseragamkan dan dikumpulkan didalam satu sistem persekolahan yang jitu dan dapat melahirkan rakyat malaysia yang bersatu padu dan bersedia mengorbankan dirinya untuk negara.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tidak salah jika kita memiliki seorang PM berketurunan Cina, India, Melayu, Kadazan, Iban, Mamak, etc. Hatta keturunan Jepun pun saya terima, ASALKAN PM itu mesti beragama ISLAM, elok moralnya, baik budi pekerti dan beriman kepada ALLAH.</p>
<p>Kalau dia Melayu sekalipun tetapi tidak mengucapkan dua kalimah syahadah maka SAYA AKAN TOLAK tak kira lah dia calon parti PAS, UMNO, MIC, DAP, MCA, PKR, etc.</p>
<p>Saya bersetuju dengan konsep satu sekolah. No more SRA, Sekolah Cina, Tamil, etc. etc. Sepatutnya semua elemen yang wujud didalam sistem persekolahan yang ada sekarang diseragamkan dan dikumpulkan didalam satu sistem persekolahan yang jitu dan dapat melahirkan rakyat malaysia yang bersatu padu dan bersedia mengorbankan dirinya untuk negara.</p>
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		<title>By: AhPek</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/11/05/obama%e2%80%99s-historic-win-%e2%80%93-can-a-chinese-indian-kadazan-or-iban-become-prime-minister/comment-page-5/#comment-146102</link>
		<dc:creator>AhPek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 10:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>imranj78,
            As long as UMNO is around nothing good is possible in this country.As is mentioned earlier they are the main cause of disunity in this country.The first step and fundamental step towards rejuvenation then is to throw UMNO out.Then the process of renewal of our school system will be given a chance to see the light at the end of the tunnel.Until such time nothing is possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>imranj78,<br />
            As long as UMNO is around nothing good is possible in this country.As is mentioned earlier they are the main cause of disunity in this country.The first step and fundamental step towards rejuvenation then is to throw UMNO out.Then the process of renewal of our school system will be given a chance to see the light at the end of the tunnel.Until such time nothing is possible.</p>
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		<title>By: imranj78</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/11/05/obama%e2%80%99s-historic-win-%e2%80%93-can-a-chinese-indian-kadazan-or-iban-become-prime-minister/comment-page-5/#comment-146093</link>
		<dc:creator>imranj78</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 08:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oedipus,
Principally I agree that there has to be a common education system for all that encompasses the religious schools. However, inclusion of the sekolah agama rakyat has one major drawback, it would result in an increasing `islamization&#039; of national schools which would not be agreeable to non-Muslims hence this has to be closely studied. 

I tend to believe that the solution to the sekolah agama rakyat has to be studied further. The vernacular schools and the national schools has one thing in common - in general the curriculum taught are more or less the same. Sekolah Agama Rakyats have a totally different curriculum hence some might say that it is best to leave this as a separate school `stream&#039;. This is similar to the current strategy in which we have the separate sekolah menengah tekniks as they have a different curriculum then the rest of the national schools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oedipus,<br />
Principally I agree that there has to be a common education system for all that encompasses the religious schools. However, inclusion of the sekolah agama rakyat has one major drawback, it would result in an increasing `islamization&#8217; of national schools which would not be agreeable to non-Muslims hence this has to be closely studied. </p>
<p>I tend to believe that the solution to the sekolah agama rakyat has to be studied further. The vernacular schools and the national schools has one thing in common &#8211; in general the curriculum taught are more or less the same. Sekolah Agama Rakyats have a totally different curriculum hence some might say that it is best to leave this as a separate school `stream&#8217;. This is similar to the current strategy in which we have the separate sekolah menengah tekniks as they have a different curriculum then the rest of the national schools.</p>
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		<title>By: oedipus</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/11/05/obama%e2%80%99s-historic-win-%e2%80%93-can-a-chinese-indian-kadazan-or-iban-become-prime-minister/comment-page-4/#comment-145961</link>
		<dc:creator>oedipus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 09:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well said imranj78! but dont forget the sekolah agamas, as a complete overhaul of the education system will definately involve the sekolah agama spead across our country!

all education must be within our national schools!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well said imranj78! but dont forget the sekolah agamas, as a complete overhaul of the education system will definately involve the sekolah agama spead across our country!</p>
<p>all education must be within our national schools!!</p>
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		<title>By: imranj78</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/11/05/obama%e2%80%99s-historic-win-%e2%80%93-can-a-chinese-indian-kadazan-or-iban-become-prime-minister/comment-page-4/#comment-145958</link>
		<dc:creator>imranj78</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 08:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not saying that the national schools are perfect. They is a lot of room for improvement and this is something which needs to be addressed. But the government has to have a long term strategy for our education system and in my view this has several key steps. Firstly, strengthen national type schools and ensure mother tongue education is provided in all schools where there is demand for it. Address and resolve all true or perceived weaknesses of national type schools. 

Once the level of national type schools have been strengthened, slowly encourage conversion of vernacular type schools to national type schools within a set timeframe. Many of us here should support this move as it is inline with the concept of Malaysian Malaysia (like DAP espouses). If we only talk but are not willing to make this bold move, then we are indeed hypocrites!

Once we all get educated in the same system, only then can we all call ourselves united and achieve true unity!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not saying that the national schools are perfect. They is a lot of room for improvement and this is something which needs to be addressed. But the government has to have a long term strategy for our education system and in my view this has several key steps. Firstly, strengthen national type schools and ensure mother tongue education is provided in all schools where there is demand for it. Address and resolve all true or perceived weaknesses of national type schools. </p>
<p>Once the level of national type schools have been strengthened, slowly encourage conversion of vernacular type schools to national type schools within a set timeframe. Many of us here should support this move as it is inline with the concept of Malaysian Malaysia (like DAP espouses). If we only talk but are not willing to make this bold move, then we are indeed hypocrites!</p>
<p>Once we all get educated in the same system, only then can we all call ourselves united and achieve true unity!</p>
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		<title>By: ladyof.liberty</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/11/05/obama%e2%80%99s-historic-win-%e2%80%93-can-a-chinese-indian-kadazan-or-iban-become-prime-minister/comment-page-4/#comment-145910</link>
		<dc:creator>ladyof.liberty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 03:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>education already policitised .... hard to revamp....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>education already policitised &#8230;. hard to revamp&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: ladyof.liberty</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/11/05/obama%e2%80%99s-historic-win-%e2%80%93-can-a-chinese-indian-kadazan-or-iban-become-prime-minister/comment-page-4/#comment-145909</link>
		<dc:creator>ladyof.liberty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 03:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sk/ smk - quality of education is like shit. teachers get student to teach in front..... what type of pedagogy approach is that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sk/ smk &#8211; quality of education is like shit. teachers get student to teach in front&#8230;.. what type of pedagogy approach is that!</p>
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		<title>By: ladyof.liberty</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/11/05/obama%e2%80%99s-historic-win-%e2%80%93-can-a-chinese-indian-kadazan-or-iban-become-prime-minister/comment-page-4/#comment-145908</link>
		<dc:creator>ladyof.liberty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 03:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nothing is important....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nothing is important&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: oedipus</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/11/05/obama%e2%80%99s-historic-win-%e2%80%93-can-a-chinese-indian-kadazan-or-iban-become-prime-minister/comment-page-4/#comment-145875</link>
		<dc:creator>oedipus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 01:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree with imranj78 that vernacular schools does segregate our children from a young age. it is a issue that we cant seem to get around for a long time.

i personally feel that we do not have to abolish these vernacular schools, but instead we have to improve the standard and quality of the Kebangsaan school. once the standard (perceived or otherwise) of the kebangsaan schools are higher than the rest, automatically the parents will flock to the kebangsaan school thus rendering the vernacular school less attractive.

but the question is, can the kebangsaan school be revamped and do we have the political muscle to revamp it? seems to me, that the kebangsaan schools have more problems in terms of quality of teachers, truancy amongst students and also red tape.

it all boils down to the self sacrifice of everybody for the good of the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree with imranj78 that vernacular schools does segregate our children from a young age. it is a issue that we cant seem to get around for a long time.</p>
<p>i personally feel that we do not have to abolish these vernacular schools, but instead we have to improve the standard and quality of the Kebangsaan school. once the standard (perceived or otherwise) of the kebangsaan schools are higher than the rest, automatically the parents will flock to the kebangsaan school thus rendering the vernacular school less attractive.</p>
<p>but the question is, can the kebangsaan school be revamped and do we have the political muscle to revamp it? seems to me, that the kebangsaan schools have more problems in terms of quality of teachers, truancy amongst students and also red tape.</p>
<p>it all boils down to the self sacrifice of everybody for the good of the country.</p>
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		<title>By: trublumsian</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/11/05/obama%e2%80%99s-historic-win-%e2%80%93-can-a-chinese-indian-kadazan-or-iban-become-prime-minister/comment-page-4/#comment-145825</link>
		<dc:creator>trublumsian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 21:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>imranj78,

vernacular school is the cause of disunity?? 

the secondary school i went to had 50% chinese, 30% malays, and 20% indians. it was public and it was named after a saint. each grade has about 10 classes, ranked, with each an avg of 35 students. guess which race perpetually made up the numbers in the last 4 classes of each grade level?? bingo.
 
in my 3 years there, i saw the students segregated themselves based on their skin color, perhaps it was as much to do with the perceived &quot;smartness&quot; of themselves? btw, the teachers did their own segregation..

that was in the early 90s. the school graduated many who later became doctors, lawyers, educators, and successful corporate people both in and outside of malaysia. the school today has a malay name, and has twice as many malay teachers and 80% of the students.

sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>imranj78,</p>
<p>vernacular school is the cause of disunity?? </p>
<p>the secondary school i went to had 50% chinese, 30% malays, and 20% indians. it was public and it was named after a saint. each grade has about 10 classes, ranked, with each an avg of 35 students. guess which race perpetually made up the numbers in the last 4 classes of each grade level?? bingo.</p>
<p>in my 3 years there, i saw the students segregated themselves based on their skin color, perhaps it was as much to do with the perceived &#8220;smartness&#8221; of themselves? btw, the teachers did their own segregation..</p>
<p>that was in the early 90s. the school graduated many who later became doctors, lawyers, educators, and successful corporate people both in and outside of malaysia. the school today has a malay name, and has twice as many malay teachers and 80% of the students.</p>
<p>sad.</p>
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		<title>By: trublumsian</title>
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		<dc:creator>trublumsian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 20:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cintanegara, you said &quot;In Malaysia, the Government are more transparent and they EVEN allow Chinese to fly the Sukhoi.&quot; 

there, you said it. we malays let you fly a sukhoi once in a while because we&#039;re nice, not because you&#039;re most qualified! btw, we&#039;re not thanking you for your tax dollars paying for our toys!

speaking of sukhoi, those are b-grade machines. don&#039;t be so proud. ur uncles in umno only get to buy these because they can be had much easier by regimes with shady dealings. like the eurocopters.

please cintanegara, don&#039;t flatter your kind thinking Yaacob, with his engr. degree deserves to be a head honcho.  o wait, yeah, that IS a BIG deal for your kind. in that case, bravo! good job! 

PUHhleeeez.. 

and the thing about sovereignty, that was satirical speak for goodness sakes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cintanegara, you said &#8220;In Malaysia, the Government are more transparent and they EVEN allow Chinese to fly the Sukhoi.&#8221; </p>
<p>there, you said it. we malays let you fly a sukhoi once in a while because we&#8217;re nice, not because you&#8217;re most qualified! btw, we&#8217;re not thanking you for your tax dollars paying for our toys!</p>
<p>speaking of sukhoi, those are b-grade machines. don&#8217;t be so proud. ur uncles in umno only get to buy these because they can be had much easier by regimes with shady dealings. like the eurocopters.</p>
<p>please cintanegara, don&#8217;t flatter your kind thinking Yaacob, with his engr. degree deserves to be a head honcho.  o wait, yeah, that IS a BIG deal for your kind. in that case, bravo! good job! </p>
<p>PUHhleeeez.. </p>
<p>and the thing about sovereignty, that was satirical speak for goodness sakes!</p>
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		<title>By: AhPek</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/11/05/obama%e2%80%99s-historic-win-%e2%80%93-can-a-chinese-indian-kadazan-or-iban-become-prime-minister/comment-page-4/#comment-145788</link>
		<dc:creator>AhPek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The main contributing reason for disunity is the UMNOPUTRAs,imranj78, whose devious method is devising &quot;Ketuanan Melayu&quot; to enrich themselves spewing racist poison to the simple kampung folks so as to ensure political dominance to continue raping this land.National life is dominated by one race with hardly any participation in government civil service from other groups.NEP and affirmative action are made race-based and not needs based.
Whilst in principle it is true that children should all go to national schools so that they mix early in life but in true fact the schools are not acting as national schools should.Children are told not to bring packed lunch for it may not be halal,lion dance is banned during Chinese New Year period,school girls must not go in swim suitsto swim,either no teacher available to teach mother tongue subject or if available not well trained and prayers during school assembly led in Islamic way.All these put off a lot of parents who are not of Islamic religion.Again why this is happening in national schools one may ask.The answer is of course affirmative action for the teachers&#039; training colleges are churning out predominating number of teachers of one race and therefore we&#039;ve school administrators and headmasters predominantly one one race (I&#039;ii say at least 85%) administering the schools resulting in some overzealous Muslim headmasters trying to run the school according to their beliefs.THAT my friend is one of the big problems in our national schools.Not just simplistically as stated by you that vernacular school is the main cause of disunity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The main contributing reason for disunity is the UMNOPUTRAs,imranj78, whose devious method is devising &#8220;Ketuanan Melayu&#8221; to enrich themselves spewing racist poison to the simple kampung folks so as to ensure political dominance to continue raping this land.National life is dominated by one race with hardly any participation in government civil service from other groups.NEP and affirmative action are made race-based and not needs based.<br />
Whilst in principle it is true that children should all go to national schools so that they mix early in life but in true fact the schools are not acting as national schools should.Children are told not to bring packed lunch for it may not be halal,lion dance is banned during Chinese New Year period,school girls must not go in swim suitsto swim,either no teacher available to teach mother tongue subject or if available not well trained and prayers during school assembly led in Islamic way.All these put off a lot of parents who are not of Islamic religion.Again why this is happening in national schools one may ask.The answer is of course affirmative action for the teachers&#8217; training colleges are churning out predominating number of teachers of one race and therefore we&#8217;ve school administrators and headmasters predominantly one one race (I&#8217;ii say at least 85%) administering the schools resulting in some overzealous Muslim headmasters trying to run the school according to their beliefs.THAT my friend is one of the big problems in our national schools.Not just simplistically as stated by you that vernacular school is the main cause of disunity.</p>
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		<title>By: imranj78</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/11/05/obama%e2%80%99s-historic-win-%e2%80%93-can-a-chinese-indian-kadazan-or-iban-become-prime-minister/comment-page-4/#comment-145736</link>
		<dc:creator>imranj78</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 13:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jus legitimum, you said:
`imranj78 must be talking through your nose when you said that the vernacular school treats BM as second or third language.&#039;
Do you mean the vernacular schools treat BM as their first language? Is that what you mean? You must be kidding me. It is you who are talking through your nose! Mind you my previous post is not about the choice of language in school but by the general non-Bumi population in Malaysia as a whole. 

I stand by my position that vernacular schools are one of the main reasons of disunity in this country. Can you confidently say that when NEP is removed that all the races will be united even when we are educated and conditioned in different type of schools? You must be a very ignorant person if you answer yes. I am not saying that the improper implementation of NEP is not causing any unhappiness, but it is a small cause of disunity compared to the segmented education system we have!

And many non-Bumis like you are so blinded, ignorant and hypocritical when you fault NEP for causing disunity when on the other hand you blindly support the vernacular schools!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jus legitimum, you said:<br />
`imranj78 must be talking through your nose when you said that the vernacular school treats BM as second or third language.&#8217;<br />
Do you mean the vernacular schools treat BM as their first language? Is that what you mean? You must be kidding me. It is you who are talking through your nose! Mind you my previous post is not about the choice of language in school but by the general non-Bumi population in Malaysia as a whole. </p>
<p>I stand by my position that vernacular schools are one of the main reasons of disunity in this country. Can you confidently say that when NEP is removed that all the races will be united even when we are educated and conditioned in different type of schools? You must be a very ignorant person if you answer yes. I am not saying that the improper implementation of NEP is not causing any unhappiness, but it is a small cause of disunity compared to the segmented education system we have!</p>
<p>And many non-Bumis like you are so blinded, ignorant and hypocritical when you fault NEP for causing disunity when on the other hand you blindly support the vernacular schools!!!</p>
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		<title>By: ReformMalaysia</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/11/05/obama%e2%80%99s-historic-win-%e2%80%93-can-a-chinese-indian-kadazan-or-iban-become-prime-minister/comment-page-4/#comment-145706</link>
		<dc:creator>ReformMalaysia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 11:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Can a Chinese, Indian, Kadazan, Iban, Orang asli, Penan become Prime Minister of Malaysia?&#039;

,,,,As long as UMNO the barbarians still in power, it will never happen.


To make it happen, first UMNO must be removed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Can a Chinese, Indian, Kadazan, Iban, Orang asli, Penan become Prime Minister of Malaysia?&#8217;</p>
<p>,,,,As long as UMNO the barbarians still in power, it will never happen.</p>
<p>To make it happen, first UMNO must be removed</p>
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		<title>By: oedipus</title>
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		<dc:creator>oedipus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>phoenixhoco, you must be able to differentiate a discussion from an all out brawl. what we are doing here is to giving ones&#039; opinion while respecting each others&#039; point of view.

if constructive critique and discussion is not to your liking... well to bad!

btw i voted PAS for the first time in my life, and i NEVER regretted it once after the election! its YOUR vote, dont blame others for YOUR decision. be more responsible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>phoenixhoco, you must be able to differentiate a discussion from an all out brawl. what we are doing here is to giving ones&#8217; opinion while respecting each others&#8217; point of view.</p>
<p>if constructive critique and discussion is not to your liking&#8230; well to bad!</p>
<p>btw i voted PAS for the first time in my life, and i NEVER regretted it once after the election! its YOUR vote, dont blame others for YOUR decision. be more responsible.</p>
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		<title>By: phoenixchoco</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/11/05/obama%e2%80%99s-historic-win-%e2%80%93-can-a-chinese-indian-kadazan-or-iban-become-prime-minister/comment-page-4/#comment-145678</link>
		<dc:creator>phoenixchoco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 09:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Lim Kit Siang, 

I voted for DAP. Although I am not of the Malaysia&#039;s chinese ethnic origin but all I wanted to see is UNITY. . Do you like watching people of Malaysia here fighting among each other in your blog? Is this your actual intention? While you could be smiling away sipping your coffee?

Then you are not the leader that we have been looking for.

cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Lim Kit Siang, </p>
<p>I voted for DAP. Although I am not of the Malaysia&#8217;s chinese ethnic origin but all I wanted to see is UNITY. . Do you like watching people of Malaysia here fighting among each other in your blog? Is this your actual intention? While you could be smiling away sipping your coffee?</p>
<p>Then you are not the leader that we have been looking for.</p>
<p>cheers</p>
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