In my research, the respondents will include graduates who are not working yet, 3 months after their convocation.

Any of your friend not working yet, 3 months after their convocation? If yes, can u give me their email address or email their mail address to me (chinchiewlan85@gmail.com) Cos I need their help to be my respondent in filling up the questionnaire.

Currently, I faced a severe problem. I can’t get any respondent who are not working yet, 3 months after their convocation. Hopefully you can help me.

Your co-operation is much appreciated. Your response will be use for the preparation of thesis only and the information will be kept confidential. Thanks…

With due respect, will Dr. LLS please enlighten us what would he say if the woman happened to be his wife, sister, or daughter?

I don’t mean to insult anybody. But since Dr. LLS has been a leader in the Chinese community and is still a public figure, I and many others expect him not to apply double standards as far as extramarital affairs is concerned.

I also call upon all female MCA members to boycott Dr CSL. As for male MCA members who support Dr. CSL, please ensure that your wives, sisters, or daughters are not in company with the likes of Dr. LLS and Dr. CSL.

It can be most frustrating after spending hundred of thousands of ringgit of your own money or your parent money, now with a medical degree, one cannot be accpeted into the government hospital, and one cannot go anywhere because the law here says one has to work compulsorily for government for 3 years plus 1 year of housemanship, unless one leave the country to work elsewhere where regulations are different.

The good thing is this matter had been brought into the parliament yesterday by YB LKT. One hopes but doubt the situation will improve for the benefit for the medical gradutes, especially if one is not a Malay bumiputra.

Damocles,

That will only be true if the misdeed is still unexposed. But in CSL’s case, it was already out in the open and so it has no blackmail value. If the scandal is still known only to a select few, then the threat of exposure will hang like Damocle’s Sword (sorry, can’t resist this!) and CSL would then be subject to blackmail, either by foreign spies (heck, even local spies) or someone out to make a fast buck.

I don’t mean to hurt the feeling of anybody. But I do suggest that those MCA members who voted CSL in and find extramarital affairs as nothing wrong to go back and do some “housekeeping”.

The purpose of comparing his marriage contract to a parking fine was to separate his marriage from any “higher purpose”. I believe his breach of marital contract is a small matter, in the great scheme of things. He appears to have been penalised (interruption of career), and that should be it, where he’s concerned.

@teacher:
“we are free of sin”. I’m free of sin, and you have the benefit of my doubt! I’m tiada agama, they tell me – we don’t have sin. So far as I, or anybody else knows, I have committed no crimes for which I have not already been publicly punished. Well okay, maybe I broke the speed limit … a lot … when I was in my twenties, and only got fined once, but I do regret it, and I am sorry. Anyway, the point is, I believe we must all judge, within our limited power to do so – voting is judgement, of a kind. You’re right – he did nothing illegal, and he was the victim of other crimes. But he has done something that weakened trust in him and upset his associates. Voters aren’t attracted to that, and his “holiday” from office shows that his associates don’t like it. He’s been in the doghouse and come back. All’s well that ends well, don’t you think? I think we can probably wipe his slate clean on this account. Judge for yourself ;)

Does anyone want to discuss unemployed med grads now?

CSL has no moral fibre to lead a ministry, or to lead the MCA, or to lead the country. If you want to be a leader, then the scrutiny of your personal life is fair game.

CSL won not because there is overwhelming support for his proven sexual prowess. He won because the majority did not want a continuation of the Ong dynasty. It was a case of a choice between two rotten apples – and the delegates chose what they thought was a lesser evil.

To answer your question as to whether a DVD made of a politician having sex with his wife would be less damaging than a DVD made of that person having extra-marital sex, the answer would be YES. In both cases, the politician would be seen at best as being stupid.

All this while they never know they dress in white in their gatherings like kkk of some sort by lacks substances and allegiance tot he people their claimed to represent and sold.

the ancestors will part them to the deepest hell and reborn as lowest creatures of the living world, if they get pass the 18 immortals of hell.

Would pople here be more forgiving if there was no breach of marriage contract and he was caught on VCD (disseminated) having sex with his spouse? I don’t think so!

I’m confused by the support for Chua Soi Lek. Jeffrey’s right, he didn’t do any of those terrible (or perfectly normal, depending on your open-mindedness) things, but what kind of argument is that? He was a state employee, in a position of great trust, and he was caught in breach of a contract that’s in the public domain.

What’s so difficult to understand? Think of his marriage contract as a parking fine. The public would have less faith in a public servant if they discovered he hadn’t paid his parking fines. What expectation can someone have that their trust is well-placed if the person they’ve placed it in has breached any contract?

All that the episode reveals is something not terribly interesting about one man. That he is on video while others are not, or have yet to have their videos made available to the masses is his very own misfortune. Of course it is natural to prefer a politician whose marital trysts have not yet been exposed. They at least have the veneer of respectability.

“explain how come”
Maybe MCA members don’t know how to access porn on the Internet and want to see more? I can’t think what kind of answer you’re expecting! Does his win say something good about him, or bad about the other contenders?

That’s an appallingly poor set of arguments Jeffrey, are you feeling all right?

Did he have sex with underaged girl or any girl without her consent ? – No.

Did he victimise any girl? No he and his partner were victims : why are we rerwarding the victimisers by giving them exactly what they wanted and designed – destruction of their victim’s political career???

Did he abuse public resources or facilities for his tyrsts? – No!

Does his extra marital affair or his penchant for opposite sex has anything to do with his intelligence, character and integrity or diligence in discharge of his public duties? Show me the nexus!

Did he lie when caught and try to absolve himself ? – No!

Did he engage in “inappropriate behaviour” with women other than his wife? Yes, but his wife has forgiven him and supported his political career so what is our beef?

The fact of the matter is that we would rather not see such private sexual romps thrown up so closely at our face. Rather, they would think of our leader as a virtuous person, easily capable of assuming the heavy and important responsibilities placed upon him and yet not susceptible to human weakness or foibles.

This is because we feel vicarious shame and reason for that is that we are ashamed of such a basic thing as the the sex act to the extent that it is Ok to do it like rabbits (the natural biological act) in private and in the closet as long as no one explicitly knows about it in the sense of perceiving it directly with 5 senses but otherwise any knowledge by logical deduction from common knowledge and inference of mankind is OK!

If we think like that (refuse to confront face and accept our own biological imperative), I don’t know who needs more help – he or us!

If you treasure your liberty, try not to be so illiberal to others. Otherwise it is the first step towards a society of moral police prowling the parks to catch and harrass courting unmarried couples and putting them in jail for immorality and public indecency.

I am sure that you know of liberal societies where individual freedom is held dear where known homosexuals and gays are even knighted, and in Australia even hold public office…..

If Chua Soi Lek’s act were so despicable by malaysian standards as distinct from Western standards, explain how come he had enough supporters to win MCA’s Deputy President Post over his other contenders?

Who would we otherwise like to have as Health Minister – any from the present crop of fellas from BN whose extra marital trysts have not yet been exposed, if not buried by exercise of power?

If someone doesn’t bring the criminal negligence case, wouldn’t that make anybody who believes a crime is being committed (much less writes in public) morally negligent? Just asking, you know me! I’m not sure I would have been so quick to announce a crime was taking place unless I actually planned to do something about it.

I note from the blog linked in the article that medical students are expected to wait by the postbox for 3 months, and then attend at short notice (days) when their assignment arrives. I don’t recognise the esteem with which medical graduates are held in Malaysia. Could it be that they really are deserving of contempt? Like parasites? After so much money is invested in them, you consolidate their gratitude by treating them like conscripts?

Getting a good quality degree is not an easy ride, and these people are valuable human resources. The least an induction letter could do is to treat them like equals and invite them to arrange a mutually acceptable start-time so that they can have some control over their lives in the interim. 3 months ‘ready to leave’ is 3 months wasted.

“Correct me if I’m wrong…” OK, not wrong, perhaps inconsistent. According to wikipedia, Chua Soi Lek was Minister of Health from 2004 to 2008. He promised for 4 years? I don’t think you treat similar examples of ministerial performance so generously.