Comments on: Malaysia out of THES Top 200 Universities for second consecutive year – another fall of domino http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/10/09/malaysia-out-of-thes-top-200-universities-for-second-consecutive-year-another-fall-of-domino/ for Malaysia Sun, 12 Feb 2012 09:12:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: spirit_up_high_above_the_sky http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/10/09/malaysia-out-of-thes-top-200-universities-for-second-consecutive-year-another-fall-of-domino/comment-page-2/#comment-141204 spirit_up_high_above_the_sky Mon, 13 Oct 2008 01:43:10 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/10/09/malaysia-out-of-thes-top-200-universities-for-second-consecutive-year-another-fall-of-domino/#comment-141204 Currently I am a first year student study at NUS. Before this, I had done my UPSR(7A),PMR(8A),SPM(11A),STPM(3A,1A-) in Malaysia. I think my result is considered quite not bad in Malaysia. But i now having a hard time study in Singapore. i just had my midterm test. Even though i passed every paper, all my result were below average mark . How the average mark will be? It is about 75% of the paper. It is not that i never study, skip lecture or anything. I had never be this hardworking before. Is it something wrong with me? No, not really. There are a lot of Malaysian study in NUS too. most of us, past STPM student, found that our level is very low compare to the other countries student, especially those from China. Ironically, Malaysian students are the oldest compare to the rest. I really that hope Malaysia government can do something to improve the quality of education. It is no use always saying how good Malaysian are and only if it is true. Perhaps you all never notice, NUS rank at 30th in the top 200 university. Currently I am a first year student study at NUS. Before this, I had done my UPSR(7A),PMR(8A),SPM(11A),STPM(3A,1A-) in Malaysia. I think my result is considered quite not bad in Malaysia. But i now having a hard time study in Singapore. i just had my midterm test. Even though i passed every paper, all my result were below average mark . How the average mark will be? It is about 75% of the paper. It is not that i never study, skip lecture or anything. I had never be this hardworking before. Is it something wrong with me? No, not really. There are a lot of Malaysian study in NUS too. most of us, past STPM student, found that our level is very low compare to the other countries student, especially those from China. Ironically, Malaysian students are the oldest compare to the rest. I really that hope Malaysia government can do something to improve the quality of education. It is no use always saying how good Malaysian are and only if it is true. Perhaps you all never notice, NUS rank at 30th in the top 200 university.

]]> By: pulau_sibu http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/10/09/malaysia-out-of-thes-top-200-universities-for-second-consecutive-year-another-fall-of-domino/comment-page-2/#comment-140982 pulau_sibu Sat, 11 Oct 2008 23:19:20 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/10/09/malaysia-out-of-thes-top-200-universities-for-second-consecutive-year-another-fall-of-domino/#comment-140982 Universiti Putra Malaysia (UPM) Department of Mechanical and Manufacturing Engineering Head, Prof Ir Dr Mohd Sapuan Salit, won a gold medal in the technology category at the Islamic Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (ISESCO Science Prize) 2008 in Baku, Azerbaijan, recently. According to a statement from UPM here today, Prof Mohd Sapuan's research in the design and manufacture of polymer composite products won him a cash prize of US$5,000.— BERNAMA Universiti Putra Malaysia (UPM) Department of Mechanical and Manufacturing Engineering Head, Prof Ir Dr Mohd Sapuan Salit, won a gold medal in the technology category at the Islamic Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (ISESCO Science Prize) 2008 in Baku, Azerbaijan, recently.
According to a statement from UPM here today, Prof Mohd Sapuan’s research in the design and manufacture of polymer composite products won him a cash prize of US$5,000.— BERNAMA

]]> By: LBJ http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/10/09/malaysia-out-of-thes-top-200-universities-for-second-consecutive-year-another-fall-of-domino/comment-page-2/#comment-140870 LBJ Sat, 11 Oct 2008 09:29:08 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/10/09/malaysia-out-of-thes-top-200-universities-for-second-consecutive-year-another-fall-of-domino/#comment-140870 There is no point arguing whether our universities are good or no good. As a country, we need to decide and that means politicans of all grades and citizens, whether we want to have quality universities in this country If we all decide that that is what the country need, then put resources and policies to get what we want. Even of we have to implement merit selection and promotion, and attract renown professors to our shore. If we decide that we need quantity university education, then by all means do so. Reduce public expenditure and provide tax break for parents to send their children, if they want a world class eduction. Forget about going to world class status. Let us be happy about being mediocre. There is no point arguing whether our universities are good or no good. As a country, we need to decide and that means politicans of all grades and citizens, whether we want to have quality universities in this country

If we all decide that that is what the country need, then put resources and policies to get what we want. Even of we have to implement merit selection and promotion, and attract renown professors to our shore.

If we decide that we need quantity university education, then by all means do so. Reduce public expenditure and provide tax break for parents to send their children, if they want a world class eduction. Forget about going to world class status. Let us be happy about being mediocre.

]]> By: Isamu http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/10/09/malaysia-out-of-thes-top-200-universities-for-second-consecutive-year-another-fall-of-domino/comment-page-2/#comment-140852 Isamu Sat, 11 Oct 2008 07:20:02 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/10/09/malaysia-out-of-thes-top-200-universities-for-second-consecutive-year-another-fall-of-domino/#comment-140852 Uncle Lim, BTW, although Chulalongkorn is seldom heard of, it is actually the most prestigious university in Thailand. It is also the oldest (91 years old, people in Kedah, Perlis & etc were still busy fighting the Siamese occupiers at that time). Quality of education is reputed to be of a very high standard as it's the focal point of Thailand's top talents. It's lack of fame in Malaysia could be due to Malaysians' fixation on Singaporean universities and also could be due to the fact that the medium of delivery is in Thai. Uncle Lim,

BTW, although Chulalongkorn is seldom heard of, it is actually the most prestigious university in Thailand. It is also the oldest (91 years old, people in Kedah, Perlis & etc were still busy fighting the Siamese occupiers at that time).

Quality of education is reputed to be of a very high standard as it’s the focal point of Thailand’s top talents.
It’s lack of fame in Malaysia could be due to Malaysians’ fixation on Singaporean universities and also could be due to the fact that the medium of delivery is in Thai.

]]> By: Isamu http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/10/09/malaysia-out-of-thes-top-200-universities-for-second-consecutive-year-another-fall-of-domino/comment-page-2/#comment-140844 Isamu Sat, 11 Oct 2008 07:00:12 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/10/09/malaysia-out-of-thes-top-200-universities-for-second-consecutive-year-another-fall-of-domino/#comment-140844 I agree that a degree is not a pre-requisite to success but without good education, it's a long shot and your only other option is to work hard and work smart. I agree that some successful entrepreneurs and tycoons do not have a degree, much less formal education but if you observe the history of human civilisation, good education has changed its role in society from being a privilege to a basic right. I agree that one's command of the English language do not have to be that of the BBC's (perfect or near perfect level) to be successful but let's get real, most Malaysians (regardless of status; graduate or not, local or foreign, race) don't even have a good enough grasp of it. I agree that the conditions in Malaysia are different and that we should not downplay our own universities but even if the rating system/criteria are indeed biased, you will only see British universities at the top of the list. In addition, all universities around the world were rated using the same set of criteria and that includes NUS Singapore, NTU Singapore, Chulalongkorn Thailand, Beijing China, Tsing Hua China & etc. These Asian universities are rated at least 50 places on top of the best placed Malaysian university. A really biased system knocks you down 10 or 20 places, not 50 or more. Reality and truth from competitive benchmarking hurts. I agree that a degree is not a pre-requisite to success but without good education, it’s a long shot and your only other option is to work hard and work smart.

I agree that some successful entrepreneurs and tycoons do not have a degree, much less formal education but if you observe the history of human civilisation, good education has changed its role in society from being a privilege to a basic right.

I agree that one’s command of the English language do not have to be that of the BBC’s (perfect or near perfect level) to be successful but let’s get real, most Malaysians (regardless of status; graduate or not, local or foreign, race) don’t even have a good enough grasp of it.

I agree that the conditions in Malaysia are different and that we should not downplay our own universities but even if the rating system/criteria are indeed biased, you will only see British universities at the top of the list. In addition, all universities around the world were rated using the same set of criteria and that includes NUS Singapore, NTU Singapore, Chulalongkorn Thailand, Beijing China, Tsing Hua China & etc. These Asian universities are rated at least 50 places on top of the best placed Malaysian university. A really biased system knocks you down 10 or 20 places, not 50 or more. Reality and truth from competitive benchmarking hurts.

]]> By: Kasim Amat http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/10/09/malaysia-out-of-thes-top-200-universities-for-second-consecutive-year-another-fall-of-domino/comment-page-2/#comment-140810 Kasim Amat Sat, 11 Oct 2008 04:57:50 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/10/09/malaysia-out-of-thes-top-200-universities-for-second-consecutive-year-another-fall-of-domino/#comment-140810 The THES-QS University ranking system is a flawed system itself that it measures universities based on certain criteria which is totally biased and is very unfavourable to Malaysia Universities. We should not pay too much attention to this flawed ranking system. If we adapt to the criteria that purely aim for the sake of getting our universities to get a higher ranking and forget about the basic fundamentals of the education system in Malaysia, then the whole educational landscape of the country may be misshaped which will eventually results in social instability. The world will finally know that Malaysia Universities are among the best in the world. My son is a graduate of University of Malaya and he took less than 1 week to get his first job with an International Investment Bank in KL. Beside that, he also has several offers from Maybank, Ambank and other big names. I admit that his English may not be as fluent but in Malaysia he does not have to worry that he could not find a decent job. As a Malaysian we should not downplay the standard of our own universities. We should also not compare ours with the other countries' because Malaysia's situation is unique and different from other countries. The THES-QS University ranking system is a flawed system itself that it measures universities based on certain criteria which is totally biased and is very unfavourable to Malaysia Universities. We should not pay too much attention to this flawed ranking system. If we adapt to the criteria that purely aim for the sake of getting our universities to get a higher ranking and forget about the basic fundamentals of the education system in Malaysia, then the whole educational landscape of the country may be misshaped which will eventually results in social instability. The world will finally know that Malaysia Universities are among the best in the world. My son is a graduate of University of Malaya and he took less than 1 week to get his first job with an International Investment Bank in KL. Beside that, he also has several offers from Maybank, Ambank and other big names. I admit that his English may not be as fluent but in Malaysia he does not have to worry that he could not find a decent job.

As a Malaysian we should not downplay the standard of our own universities. We should also not compare ours with the other countries’ because Malaysia’s situation is unique and different from other countries.

]]> By: normandy http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/10/09/malaysia-out-of-thes-top-200-universities-for-second-consecutive-year-another-fall-of-domino/comment-page-2/#comment-140777 normandy Sat, 11 Oct 2008 01:12:05 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/10/09/malaysia-out-of-thes-top-200-universities-for-second-consecutive-year-another-fall-of-domino/#comment-140777 Yes, lots of lecturers in the local universities are of very low-class quality. I am not sure about other universities (which readers could write in to spill the beans) but I was informed that in UPSI, lecturers were promoted to Associate Prof. and Professor easily without any substantial international publications. More shockingly, I was told that one lady (a senior lecturer) got a conditional offer for an Ass Prof; the condition is that is she publishes one journal article (since she has no journal publication at all)! Many of my colleagues say that they are not applying to UPSI to undergo a PhD programme because the supervision there is of substandard. Imagine if you, as an experienced teacher, would want to do a PhD in education, let's say science education, you will end up being supervised by a lecturer who has no experience in education. He/she does not even have a teaching qualification, let alone school-based experience. No wonder the UPSI graduates are equally substandard because their practicum was supervised by lecturers who do not even have a Diploma of Education and have never taught in schools!!!! Yes, lots of lecturers in the local universities are of very low-class quality. I am not sure about other universities (which readers could write in to spill the beans) but I was informed that in UPSI, lecturers were promoted to Associate Prof. and Professor easily without any substantial international publications. More shockingly, I was told that one lady (a senior lecturer) got a conditional offer for an Ass Prof; the condition is that is she publishes one journal article (since she has no journal publication at all)! Many of my colleagues say that they are not applying to UPSI to undergo a PhD programme because the supervision there is of substandard. Imagine if you, as an experienced teacher, would want to do a PhD in education, let’s say science education, you will end up being supervised by a lecturer who has no experience in education. He/she does not even have a teaching qualification, let alone school-based experience. No wonder the UPSI graduates are equally substandard because their practicum was supervised by lecturers who do not even have a Diploma of Education and have never taught in schools!!!!

]]> By: pulau_sibu http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/10/09/malaysia-out-of-thes-top-200-universities-for-second-consecutive-year-another-fall-of-domino/comment-page-2/#comment-140776 pulau_sibu Sat, 11 Oct 2008 01:10:16 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/10/09/malaysia-out-of-thes-top-200-universities-for-second-consecutive-year-another-fall-of-domino/#comment-140776 Recently there is a guy who was made the big post at UTM with the news that he is the youngest person appointed to the post (I forgot whatever is the post and his name). Is this the best person around for the post? He is a great researcher, but if you go to America, the universities must be flooded with professors having better accomplishments like him. Boleh has to think of a way to attract the big guns to come. Hong Kong and Taiwan are doing it and their universities started to pop up in the ranking. In boleh, people care about the title only, like Prof. Datuk Dr...... that made no sense at all to the academic standard and ranking. Unless THES will add in an other criteria, number of Datuk Professors.... Have boleh universities put down in writing how are they going to attain a better ranking or to become a better university? Ask the vice chancellor to show it to the public. If it is not achieved, then the person has to quit in the specified years. Recently there is a guy who was made the big post at UTM with the news that he is the youngest person appointed to the post (I forgot whatever is the post and his name). Is this the best person around for the post? He is a great researcher, but if you go to America, the universities must be flooded with professors having better accomplishments like him.

Boleh has to think of a way to attract the big guns to come. Hong Kong and Taiwan are doing it and their universities started to pop up in the ranking. In boleh, people care about the title only, like Prof. Datuk Dr…… that made no sense at all to the academic standard and ranking. Unless THES will add in an other criteria, number of Datuk Professors….

Have boleh universities put down in writing how are they going to attain a better ranking or to become a better university? Ask the vice chancellor to show it to the public. If it is not achieved, then the person has to quit in the specified years.

]]> By: alaneth http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/10/09/malaysia-out-of-thes-top-200-universities-for-second-consecutive-year-another-fall-of-domino/comment-page-2/#comment-140739 alaneth Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:50:31 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/10/09/malaysia-out-of-thes-top-200-universities-for-second-consecutive-year-another-fall-of-domino/#comment-140739 If we rank world universities only in 1 subject - Political Science, we will definately rank top 10..... If we rank world universities only in 1 subject – Political Science, we will definately rank top 10…..

]]> By: cemerlang http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/10/09/malaysia-out-of-thes-top-200-universities-for-second-consecutive-year-another-fall-of-domino/comment-page-2/#comment-140727 cemerlang Fri, 10 Oct 2008 13:49:00 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/10/09/malaysia-out-of-thes-top-200-universities-for-second-consecutive-year-another-fall-of-domino/#comment-140727 The politicians in charge of education should look into this matter seriously. Are you satisfied with records that look real good ? All students get A + + + . Or somehow at the back of your mind, you wonder if this is purposely done to please you ? It is all about you, the politicians and if it is all about you, then it is nothing about the rest; the teaching staff and the students. If you feel so proud with the good records and you do not have the slightest suspicion, then there is something very wrong with you. If only you have come down and see for yourself what is the real thing going on. Spot check. Can you really ignore it when people tell you that the student is not bright but somehow can enter university ? Can you block your 5 senses if people tell you that another student help another student to do his assignment ? A teaching staff is very respectable no doubt, but if he allows any hanky panky to occur, then he is contributing to the destruction of the country. An education revolution is not about getting all the students into universities. How intelligent can they be if they play internet games more than reading academic or good books ? How intelligent can they be if they prefer to be like the most popular singer instead of spending time studying ? In many ways, intelligence is linked to gathering more and more knowledge. Sport makes one healthy but not necessarily intelligent. Co-curriculum makes one sociable but not necessarily intelligent. So if you want an intelligent population, you have to make sure that the students are interested in absorbing knowledge. All sorts of knowledge and not just the one which he has to pass in. The politicians in charge of education should look into this matter seriously. Are you satisfied with records that look real good ? All students get A + + + . Or somehow at the back of your mind, you wonder if this is purposely done to please you ? It is all about you, the politicians and if it is all about you, then it is nothing about the rest; the teaching staff and the students. If you feel so proud with the good records and you do not have the slightest suspicion, then there is something very wrong with you. If only you have come down and see for yourself what is the real thing going on. Spot check. Can you really ignore it when people tell you that the student is not bright but somehow can enter university ? Can you block your 5 senses if people tell you that another student help another student to do his assignment ? A teaching staff is very respectable no doubt, but if he allows any hanky panky to occur, then he is contributing to the destruction of the country. An education revolution is not about getting all the students into universities. How intelligent can they be if they play internet games more than reading academic or good books ? How intelligent can they be if they prefer to be like the most popular singer instead of spending time studying ? In many ways, intelligence is linked to gathering more and more knowledge. Sport makes one healthy but not necessarily intelligent. Co-curriculum makes one sociable but not necessarily intelligent. So if you want an intelligent population, you have to make sure that the students are interested in absorbing knowledge. All sorts of knowledge and not just the one which he has to pass in.

]]> By: cinaindiamelayubersatu http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/10/09/malaysia-out-of-thes-top-200-universities-for-second-consecutive-year-another-fall-of-domino/comment-page-2/#comment-140679 cinaindiamelayubersatu Fri, 10 Oct 2008 08:47:45 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/10/09/malaysia-out-of-thes-top-200-universities-for-second-consecutive-year-another-fall-of-domino/#comment-140679 menteri pelajaran dan menteri pendidikan tinggi seharusnya bukan dari kalangan orang politik...macam hisham tu tak logik...anak orang lain dijadikan bahan kajian tapi anak dia ntah di mana ya? mana sekolah anak dia? bila belajar kat luar negeri balik jadi orang besar kata tanah ni bapak aku punya... menteri pelajaran dan menteri pendidikan tinggi seharusnya bukan dari kalangan orang politik…macam hisham tu tak logik…anak orang lain dijadikan bahan kajian tapi anak dia ntah di mana ya? mana sekolah anak dia? bila belajar kat luar negeri balik jadi orang besar kata tanah ni bapak aku punya…

]]> By: Oops, Malaysia did it AGAIN - the THES Top 200 Univ ranking « ???? I am Eve http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/10/09/malaysia-out-of-thes-top-200-universities-for-second-consecutive-year-another-fall-of-domino/comment-page-2/#comment-140633 Oops, Malaysia did it AGAIN - the THES Top 200 Univ ranking « ???? I am Eve Fri, 10 Oct 2008 05:11:32 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/10/09/malaysia-out-of-thes-top-200-universities-for-second-consecutive-year-another-fall-of-domino/#comment-140633 [...] I totally agree with what Mr Lim Kit Siang wrote in his blog [...] [...] I totally agree with what Mr Lim Kit Siang wrote in his blog [...]

]]> By: alancheah http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/10/09/malaysia-out-of-thes-top-200-universities-for-second-consecutive-year-another-fall-of-domino/comment-page-2/#comment-140619 alancheah Fri, 10 Oct 2008 03:48:29 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/10/09/malaysia-out-of-thes-top-200-universities-for-second-consecutive-year-another-fall-of-domino/#comment-140619 This country really needs many GOOD leaders to make many dramatic changes, so that we can only have HOPE! God Bless. This country really needs many GOOD leaders
to make many dramatic changes, so that we
can only have HOPE!

God Bless.

]]> By: cinaindiamelayubersatu http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/10/09/malaysia-out-of-thes-top-200-universities-for-second-consecutive-year-another-fall-of-domino/comment-page-2/#comment-140616 cinaindiamelayubersatu Fri, 10 Oct 2008 03:39:24 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/10/09/malaysia-out-of-thes-top-200-universities-for-second-consecutive-year-another-fall-of-domino/#comment-140616 1. "the reason we did not do well in the last election was not because of the leadership but because we did not fulfill the promises of 2004" KJ abstract from I Am Not To Blame For PM's Exit The Star 10.10.08. kenyataan bodoh ! why the leaders did not fulfill their promises are because there are none good leader from an existing corrupted leadership system ! if such a remark came from oxford grad what do you expect from uitm grad ? 2. aiya like the ahmad ismail remark la..senang cakap tak payah dari hati ke otak kemudian ke mulut. terus dari mulut kalau tak dari dubur 3. don worry la...uitm tak ke mana...depa tu institut aje 4. kalau aka ada duit, kalau dolla bagi duit sikit kat aku akan hantar anak aku ke luar negara macam najib macam hisham...apa kelas uitm 1. “the reason we did not do well in the last election was not because of the leadership but because we did not fulfill the promises of 2004″ KJ abstract from I Am Not To Blame For PM’s Exit The Star 10.10.08. kenyataan bodoh ! why the leaders did not fulfill their promises are because there are none good leader from an existing corrupted leadership system ! if such a remark came from oxford grad what do you expect from uitm grad ?
2. aiya like the ahmad ismail remark la..senang cakap tak payah dari hati ke otak kemudian ke mulut. terus dari mulut kalau tak dari dubur
3. don worry la…uitm tak ke mana…depa tu institut aje
4. kalau aka ada duit, kalau dolla bagi duit sikit kat aku akan hantar anak aku ke luar negara macam najib macam hisham…apa kelas uitm

]]> By: elaineganmaclaine http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/10/09/malaysia-out-of-thes-top-200-universities-for-second-consecutive-year-another-fall-of-domino/comment-page-2/#comment-140615 elaineganmaclaine Fri, 10 Oct 2008 03:34:19 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/10/09/malaysia-out-of-thes-top-200-universities-for-second-consecutive-year-another-fall-of-domino/#comment-140615 Sigh!! Another expected fall! I hope this is the last! Sigh!! Another expected fall!
I hope this is the last!

]]> By: twistedmind http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/10/09/malaysia-out-of-thes-top-200-universities-for-second-consecutive-year-another-fall-of-domino/comment-page-2/#comment-140596 twistedmind Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:00:12 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/10/09/malaysia-out-of-thes-top-200-universities-for-second-consecutive-year-another-fall-of-domino/#comment-140596 Is UITM going to hold a mega protest on all its campuses and insist that the people behind "THES-QS 2008 World Top 200" retract their rankings and apologize to UITM? Are they? Is UITM going to hold a mega protest on all its campuses and insist that the people behind “THES-QS 2008 World Top 200″ retract their rankings and apologize to UITM?

Are they?

]]> By: Swordsman http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/10/09/malaysia-out-of-thes-top-200-universities-for-second-consecutive-year-another-fall-of-domino/comment-page-2/#comment-140584 Swordsman Fri, 10 Oct 2008 01:04:21 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/10/09/malaysia-out-of-thes-top-200-universities-for-second-consecutive-year-another-fall-of-domino/#comment-140584 Oops... "correction action" should read "corrective action". Oops… “correction action” should read “corrective action”.

]]> By: veddy.lum74 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/10/09/malaysia-out-of-thes-top-200-universities-for-second-consecutive-year-another-fall-of-domino/comment-page-2/#comment-140580 veddy.lum74 Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:59:09 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/10/09/malaysia-out-of-thes-top-200-universities-for-second-consecutive-year-another-fall-of-domino/#comment-140580 so,what is the point of getting into local Us so desperately for our children? if our domestic graduates were to work in MNCs,i think probably their fixed-salary is equivalent to rm1 to one thousand! so,what is the point of getting into local Us so desperately for our children?

if our domestic graduates were to work in MNCs,i think probably their fixed-salary is equivalent to rm1 to one thousand!

]]> By: Swordsman http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/10/09/malaysia-out-of-thes-top-200-universities-for-second-consecutive-year-another-fall-of-domino/comment-page-1/#comment-140578 Swordsman Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:55:47 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/10/09/malaysia-out-of-thes-top-200-universities-for-second-consecutive-year-another-fall-of-domino/#comment-140578 The deteriorating ranking of our universities provides only a macro and superficial view of the state of affairs in our educational system. Setting a simplistic goal of improving our ranking within a certain set time frame is unrealistic and unachievable, as we have not addressed the underlying problems plaguing our educational system. A rotten educational system takes at least one generation of "correction actions" before we could realize tangible results. Our universities not only failed to provide the "appropriate education" in terms of academic achievements and excellence, they infact stifled personal drive and motivation to excel. I once asked my former professor, who was still lecturing in the engineering faculty at the University of Malaya at that time, how does the present students compared to those during my time? His frank reply was "I don't mean to sound racist, let me leave out the Bumi students in the comparison because during your time there was'nt a single Bumi student in your batch and there was only one Bumi student who was one year junior to you." "I would say in general students of your time were far better than students today. I could see the competitive spirit and the will to excel very clearly during your time. Nowadays, the "smarter" students tend to be more lazy and relaxed as they know they would still finish at the top of the class without really having to study hard or struggle to compete with their peers. They know at the very least they are on top of the 60% Bumi students. Just a little more effort would put them infront of those intellectually less endowed non Bumi peers." " In any institution of higher learning, the competitive spirit, the inquisitive mind, keeping abreast in one's own field of specialization and staying at the frontier of knowledge, networking with other universities with similar research and development programs, the academic quality of the students, quality of the teaching staff, and publication of research articles in top rate international journals etc are the necessary "vitamins" to keep our universities healthy and competitive." Before we attempt to set the simplistic goal of improving our ranking, let us first measure the "level of deficiency" in each of the above "vitamins". To rebuild the health of our universities, we must first have a "pharmacy" ( a Govt with strong principles in governance), a qualified "pharmacist" ( the Minister of Education) and a "nutritionist" (the Vice Chancellors/Leadership of the universities) who will administer the dosage of the "vitamins". Whether the universities would respond to the intake of "vitamins" would depend on the "academic health" of the student population. Improving the "academic health" of the students so that they would respond to the efficacy of the "vitamins" will take a long time, probably a generation if we were to take the first step today. Is Najib capable of setting up a "pharmacy" as a first step in this overall scheme to improve our educationl system? The deteriorating ranking of our universities provides only a macro and superficial view of the state of affairs in our educational system. Setting a simplistic goal of improving our ranking within a certain set time frame is unrealistic and unachievable, as we have not addressed the underlying problems plaguing our educational system.
A rotten educational system takes at least one generation of “correction actions” before we could realize tangible results. Our universities not only failed to provide the “appropriate education” in terms of academic achievements and excellence, they infact stifled
personal drive and motivation to excel.
I once asked my former professor, who was still lecturing in the engineering faculty at the University of Malaya at that time, how does the present students compared to those during my time?
His frank reply was “I don’t mean to sound racist, let me leave out the Bumi students in the comparison because during your time there was’nt a single Bumi student in your batch and there was only one Bumi student who was one year junior to you.”
“I would say in general students of your time were far better than students today. I could see the competitive spirit and the will to excel very clearly during your time. Nowadays, the “smarter” students tend to be more lazy and relaxed as they know they would still finish at the top of the class without really having to study hard or struggle to compete with their peers. They know at the very least they are on top of the 60% Bumi students. Just a little more effort would put them infront of those intellectually less endowed non Bumi peers.”
” In any institution of higher learning, the competitive spirit, the inquisitive mind, keeping abreast in one’s own field of specialization and staying at the frontier of knowledge, networking with other universities with similar research and development programs, the academic quality of the students, quality of the teaching staff, and publication of research articles in top rate international journals etc are the necessary “vitamins” to keep our universities healthy and competitive.”
Before we attempt to set the simplistic goal of improving our ranking, let us first measure the “level of deficiency” in each of the above “vitamins”. To rebuild the health of our universities, we must first have a “pharmacy” ( a Govt with strong principles in governance), a qualified “pharmacist” ( the Minister of Education)
and a “nutritionist” (the Vice Chancellors/Leadership of the universities) who will administer the dosage of the “vitamins”. Whether the universities would respond to the intake of “vitamins” would depend on the “academic health” of the student population.
Improving the “academic health” of the students so that they would respond to the efficacy of the “vitamins” will take a long time, probably a generation if we were to take the first step today.
Is Najib capable of setting up a “pharmacy” as a first step in this overall scheme to improve our educationl system?

]]> By: StevePCH http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/10/09/malaysia-out-of-thes-top-200-universities-for-second-consecutive-year-another-fall-of-domino/comment-page-1/#comment-140568 StevePCH Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:18:09 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/10/09/malaysia-out-of-thes-top-200-universities-for-second-consecutive-year-another-fall-of-domino/#comment-140568 AIDS .... AIDS .... AIDS Instead of acknowledging the downfall, the poor minister and vcs hails their so called " achievements" in degrading the status of THES ranking. PATHETIC is the only word. How do you expect improvement in the ranking when we have such people heading our Higher education institutions ? Please go to Singapore and learn from their counterparts or else when coming another 15 years, UM and UKM would be in the ranking of "thousands" range. AIDS …. AIDS …. AIDS

Instead of acknowledging the downfall, the poor minister and vcs hails their so called ” achievements” in degrading the status of THES ranking.

PATHETIC is the only word.

How do you expect improvement in the ranking when we have such people heading our Higher education institutions ?

Please go to Singapore and learn from their counterparts or else when coming another 15 years, UM and UKM would be in the ranking of “thousands” range.

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