Comments on: “Malaysians want fundamental change, and they want it now!”

By: whattheheckman

whattheheckman — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 07:27:02 +0000

While it is agreed without a shadow of doubt that the late P.Patto has contributed much towards malaysians, in particular, to the Indian community, i cannot help mentioning here that the late D.R.Sennivasagam, the founder and the first President of the Peoples Progressive Party with its base in Ipoh was the greatest politician to grace the soil of malaysian politics.
With due respect to veteran politician like LKS, karpal, Anwar and a number of others, none can match D.R.’s strength to fight for a truly multi racial and multi lingual Malaysia. A great friend and political foe of Tunku, the first PM, DR was and is still considered to be one of the most outstanding lawyer and MP of all time Malaysia.
With Ipoh municipality under their hands they turned it into perhaps the most efficient municipality in Malaysia. He was considered to be the most fearless MP in Malaysia calling Tunku a buffalo (what do you expect from a buffalo, only dirt and lies he thundered in Parliament) and took the challenge for a fist fight from the late Jaafar Albar MP of Johor Tenggara and father of the present Home Minister. DR rose to prominense after defending a chinese woman from Sg.Siput Perak in a case of assisting the communist activities. The punishment was very severe, perhaps hanging but DR fought nail and tooth and she was spared but nevertheless banished to China. Upon her departure DR bought her either a bicycle or a sewing machine I can recall but Chin Peng in his book mentions that the woman is still living in China. In one famous law suit the then Agriculture Minister lost his case and his job. The minister was represent by a QC from UK while DR was defended by his elder brother SP and a local lawyer.
DR’s main support was from the chinese without doubt but he fought for all. His untimely death in 1969 while still in his fourties changed a lot for PPP and the general political picture of Kinta Valley. His brother SP.Seenivasagam took PPP to the Barisan and the rest of course is history.
After a car accident which ledt DR almost paralised, he still went to parliament with the aid of a walking stick, a pathetic sight to see but a brave lion pulling himself along to represent the people of Ipoh in way befitting an elected MP.
The Coronation Park was renamed after DR. I am not sure if it is still called Taman DR. The present Pakatan Govt should ensure that DR’s contibution to the nation and in particular Ipoh (Ipoh had the lowest assessment rates during DR’s time) should not go unnoticed. Two of Ipoh’s main street,. Hugh Low Street and Brewster Road would renamed after DR and SP but was later over turned.I know the names are somewhere there but do not know which corner of Ipoh does the names DR and SP exist.
Lots of people knew that the wealth of the Seeenivasagam brothers, known to be one of the wealthest in Ipoh, simply evaporated into his political activities. Even though DR was the first in Malaysia to own a Caddilac Continental, he spent his wealth for a political cause that was close to his heart.
When he died one of those first to arrive was the late Sultan of Perak and the Tunku. As a mark of respect the chinese in Ipoh closed all shops and stalls and thousands turned up for his funeral.
It was rumoured that he turned down all state titles saying he is a peoples’ man.
Malaysia’s Straits Times as it was called then, front lined his death saying FIGHTER OF JUSTICE DIES.
Can the present Pakatan Govt honour DR in whatever ways it can.
There was some talk previously in the 70′s to built his statue in front of the Ipoh High Court but it never got off the ground.
Can the present state govt look into this with Saudara LKS heading the project together with the highly respected MB of Perak.

By: whitecoffee

whitecoffee — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 04:46:37 +0000

Remember Team A, Team B ?????? Ku Li, don’t try to make Team C with PKR. You are a failure. It’s time to retire. Too old to flirt man! Sometime back, an old BLOKE started talking nonsense. And then came you. You cannot even be specific in your thoughts. What do you have, and what can you do? Practically nothing and nothing. Don’t try to talk like a fortuner teller.

By: kerishamuddinitis

kerishamuddinitis — Sat, 27 Sep 2008 15:07:00 +0000

Ku Li, Ku Li jangan main guli-guli. Molotov cocktail at Teresa Kok’s house and you are still appealing from within UMNO? Isn’t it crystal clear that the recent string of developments are designed to provoke the Chinese community? But no, we are not going to the streets, not the way UMNO wants us to. We are NOT taking UMNO’s bait! We will join hands with Pakatan Rakyat, DSAI, RPK, LKS, NA and all other Malaysians who, as you say, want fundamental change and we want it NOW! Then, when we go to the streets, it will be because we want to save this country of ours. And you? You will still be writing your impassioned pleas for all parties to come togther. Do yourself and this country we all love a favour and GET THE HELL OUT OF UMNO! It has become the den of the devil!

By: lopez

lopez — Sat, 27 Sep 2008 04:48:05 +0000

if lousy losers would want others to govern them, lets sub contract the governing to third parties.
Let prepare the need statement

Let the people decide who will be in the vendor lists

By: wifeejane

wifeejane — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:03:35 +0000

Like minded leaders should bury their hatchet and work together for a peaceful solution to our political crises. It is very childish and uncivilised to go for mud slinging, exploiting on racial issue like Ahmad Ismail and his 13 supporters, creating hatred and fear on racial and religion line like our Dr. Khir Toyol or threatening any outspoken citizen with ISA like Syed Hamid Albar. All our god wants us to live peacefully. So please no matter which side you are on come together work out a peaceful solution for the transition so as to be well prepared to face the looming economic recession. Our enemy is globalisation and we should not be fighting amoung ourself along racial lines. We are all citizens of Malaysia and everyone of us has contribute our sweat and blood in the process of nation building. So pls tengku if u firmly believe to this article u have written, walk out of the nutshell like Zaid Ibrahim and concentrate on working together with people of similiar lines of thoughts.

Tengku. Tks for writing this brave & beautiful article, now we are watching Tengku on walk the talk. Don’t jus give lips service only.

By: StevePCH

StevePCH — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:30:31 +0000

Ku Li is a known opportunist but nevertheless, he speaks a good degree of truth, much better than PL, NTR , No Otak and Co.
AMeNO is corrupted down to the JKKK level in passing small contracts for repairing drains etc. That’s why the so called “Federal Village Heads” is very important to feed the grassroots.
With this structure, will Ku Li be able to change the “fundamentals” ? Ameno can never be changed because it’s like a Pyramid marketing system. This system made the whole organisation complacent and out of focus and objectives.

Futhermore, Ku Li had tried to wrest support during the Semangat 46 but rejoined the devil. I doubt Ku Li will be able to garner the neccesary nominations to challange PL, let alone beat him. But he can still dream on.
He is no where near Zaid ! be gentleman and quit !

By: homeblogger

homeblogger — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 10:24:57 +0000

No Ku Li… you cannot bring fundamental change. You see, the problem lies with a racist, greedy, fundamentally wrong UMNO. UMNO can’t even deal with the money politics that is rampant in its own backyard and you want to change deep rooted fears and prejudice? Our present PM came in with big talk of reforms. He is being killed by his own because UMNOputras are afraid they will lose their rice bowl built on corruption. If you come in, you will also meet an untimely death politically because UMNO has taught generations of Malays that they are stupid, that they NEED protection, that they CANNOT compete on a playing field, that they deserve special rights simply because of skin color. UMNO has played the race game for 51 years and we are now paying the price for it.

No Ku Li… with all your rhetoric, you can try to bring fundamental change, but UMNO will not change. They will kill their own to protect their right to be corrupt.

The only way is to dismantle the evil regime that is UMNO.

By: Jeffrey

Jeffrey — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 06:41:23 +0000

Dear Old.observer, Yes, it has also to be weighed against the fact that a self imposed deadline, repeated often enough and relied upon by others including RPK (to his detriment) unfulfilled does little to help DSAI’s credibility or those of his coalition partners acquiescing 9/16 and raises further question whether other promises made by DSAI in exchange for support may likewise be believed and relied upon. :)

By: Old.observer

Old.observer — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 06:28:28 +0000

Dear Jeffrey,

Naturally, many are dissappointed when 916 didn’t eventuate with a change of government.

Yet in all fairness to DSAI, to lump DSAI together with the present BN leadership (you quote: “glaring leadership vacuum”) because DSAI missed the deadline is a bit dramatic isn’t it?

To me, there is a glaring difference between DSAI missing the self-imposed 916 deadline vs the present administration (imposing ISA suka-suka hati on RPK, on Teresa, on Tan, etc., the present administration sending 50 MPs to Taiwan suka-suka hati, the present administration blatant lying to the public on far too many times, corruptions, etc.)

Both are completely different things.

And bear in mind what Anwar is trying to achieve is not an easy task, and has never been done before in Malaysian history. It’s herculean, and the odds stacked against it (916).

Yet, some would argue it is still dissappointing and I don’t deny that. But that is a fact of life. If there is no deadline, zero chance of leaping. A deadline galvanized people, and the panic responses of the BN government is evidence of this. It was (and maybe still is) the best chance to change. Put it this way – if we could turn back time to 803 – I still think DSAI’s approach to set the a specific deadline is the right approach, even if it carries a high degree of failure. To not set a deadline is to guarantee failure. I actually deeply respect and admire DSAI’s courage to take such a huge reputational risk in order to change Malaysia for the better.

And at the time of penning this, no one can conclusively say that he still doesn’t have the numbers. Politics is fickle – for all we know, this may be a clever and deliberate change of approach, a political gambit to invite Abdullah to wipe off Anwar once and for all by putting the vote of no confidence in the next Parliamentary sitting, and if Abdullah did this, there is still the possibility that the nation could be pleasantly surprised!

By: cheng on

cheng on — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 06:27:27 +0000

Dont think ku li can wait another 10 years, he is 71 now. It is now or never for him !

By: bentoh

bentoh — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 06:23:41 +0000

abunsui,

Errr… Ku Li is running for his PMship… is this considered NATO? :o

And if Ku Li ended up not living up to expectation… we can always use this article to shoot him down…

Anwar did not live up to our expectation or to his own words… So for now… I pray for Ku Li’s PMship first… :P

By: k1980

k1980 — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 06:08:46 +0000

Look who are happy now that recession is coming
http://www.flickr.com/photos/5xmom/2884530036/

By: abunsui

abunsui — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 05:43:29 +0000

Ku Li,

Jangan cakap tak serupa bikin.

NATO – No Action Talk Only. Similar to MCA and Gerakan.

Say no to ISA – Resign or pull out of BN-UMNO.

By: Old.observer

Old.observer — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 05:22:22 +0000

Jeffrey,

Thanks for the Malaysian Insider link Yesterday at 23: 59.12 – http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/malaysia/9526-pas-still-insists-on-muslim-majority-govt;

Personally, I feel the article is written in a somewhat biased manner, so, it has lost some credibility with me.

Notwitstanding that, I suspect (although we don’t know for certain unless there is a nationwide referendum which is unlikely to happen) the majority of Malaysians will want to see a Muslim majority in Parliament at this point in time. I can’t say with the same level of certainty in 20 or 40 years time, but at this point in time, I think Malaysians will want to see a Muslim majority in Parliament, for stability reasons.

So, to me, it’s a lower priority issue, to concede on this, even though I note it is still “racial” in principle. But to me, the more important issue is to immediately eliminate the large number of “wrongs” that are presently happening with the ruling government.

By: lextcs

lextcs — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 04:01:42 +0000

why anwar must not come to power?
1. because paul wolfowitz is his buddy and financier
2. becoz paul wolfowitz sits in the PNAC committee
3. PNAC stands for project for New American Century
4. becoz US is try to gain back its imperial influence they have to use certain leaders to hoodwink and overturn govts legally elected by the people
5. if everything fails, then violence is used to the extend of bombings and chaos….911 is a good example of them killing their own.
6. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-Vwhzq0qCc&feature=related
7. beware rakyat malaysia.
8. he who have ears let him hear.

By: daryl

daryl — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 02:43:39 +0000

Ku Li
Sometmes in order to preserve you have to tear it down. So, is time to move on because BN is not the platform for change. Become our PM but in PR because that is the only way out for Malaysia at this moment. UMNO or BN can be rebuild at a later date because without a successful Malaysia it is uselesss to have a successful UMNO or BN.

By: taiking

taiking — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 02:05:34 +0000

Actually, there is nothing we dont already know or have not already said.

After half centuary without challenge, umno became fixed in their ways. And unfortunately for all of us, arrogance crept in and became a permanent fixture in their methods.

Razaleigh is wasting his time in umno. Its no longer the same umno he knew and expect.

Yes I agree with those who suggest he should just leave umno. Join pakatan. Form another party in opposition to umno. Either way, it would be better than staying put.

By: ctc537

ctc537 — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:44:29 +0000

I remember someone telling me that it was Ku Li who coined the words bumiputras and non-bumiputras way back in the early seventies. How I wish he were to have made the point clear then that those Malaysians irrespective of race who were born after Independence 31 were classified as bumiputras.

By: Bigjoe

Bigjoe — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:25:39 +0000

Me think Muhiyiddin is going to break rank and partner with Razaleigh for the leadership. Its really what he wants. He does not want Badawi to leave before the GA in Dec. The fact of the matter is a Najib administration is bad for him. Unless he does not mind waiting 10-15 years for the Premiership at which time he may or may not get it even. Its really the best thing for him to have the party in the mess and for him to go for the top leadership with Razaleigh in one way or other.

Battle royale in December is set unless Badawi changes his mind. Najib should be the one who want Badawi to leave now or he may not get the premiership at all. From now to Dec, you can be sure Najib operatives are stabbing the Badawi in the back.

By: fatin

fatin — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:23:55 +0000

in my opinion..teresa,lim kit siang & anwar should be put in the ISA right now..why u guys want to make havoc…?before this malaysia is very peaceful without all this problem..im not from the government site…but we need peace…y all the older make our country “kucar kacir”???