On Tuesday, the MCA Central Committee called for “a comprehensive review of the Internal Security Act (ISA) so that it will apply strictly to cases relating to terrorism and subversive elements”.
Are the four MCA Ministers prepared to take the lead in the Cabinet to make it very clear that any ISA arrest of Parliamentary Opposition Leader Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim will result in their mass resignation?
This is because the detention of Anwar Ibrahim under the ISA seems to be on the cards after the uncharacteristically belligerent accusation by the Prime Minister, Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi on Wednesday that Anwar is a threat to the national security and economy who wanted to “destroy the country and exploit the people’s trust and tarnish the country’s image abroad”, followed by equally truculent statements against Anwar by Deputy Prime Minister, Datuk Seri Najib Razak and the Home Minister, Datuk Seri Syed Hamid Albar in the past few days.
Are the MCA Ministers and leaders going to make it very clear to the Prime Minister and the Home Minister that the deepening multiple crisis of confidence in the past six months since the first political tsunami on March 8 will take drastic turn for the worse as nobody in his right senses would believe that Anwar should be detained under the ISA?
It is regrettable that not a single MCA Minister or MP had attended the inaugural meeting to form the “Free Teresa Kok” Parliamentary Caucus last Wednesday.
Are the MCA Ministers and MPs prepared to support the enlargement of the Parliamentary Caucus to a “Free RPK, Hindraf 5 and all ISA detainees” Parliamentary Caucus now that Teresa has been released from ISA after a seven-day detention?
Furthermore, are the MCA MPs prepared to support an all-party parliamentary motion in Parliament to deplore the ISA detention of a MP when Parliament reconvenes on Oct. 13 and to call for the repeal of the ISA as an important measure to end the deepening multiple crisis of confidence afflicting Malaysia in the past six months?
#1 by rckk007 on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 11:47 am
Fat hopes of anyone resigning. I’ve yet to see any MCA members resign based on principles and justice. The only person who resigned was because he was caught with his pants down.
#2 by giko on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 11:47 am
“I Spy” take n the end of mca n bn??? =
Pak Lah is smart and very sly. He is not going to give up the PM to Najib while under pressure. It is a known fact he does not like Najib and only tolerates him . He chose Najib as a DPM because he has dirt on Najib. Do not spend too much time reading into PaK Lah but watch Khairy\’s wheeling and dealing with Anwar. Khairy is throwing the support behind Anwar and to stay relevant. He will not show his hand but have his people support Anwar. In the mean time as soon as Umno is out of power he will consolidate his power in UMNO by instigating a witch hunt. Najib and the others who plotted against Pak Lah will be surrendered to Anwar with evidence to prosecute them in court. These senior UMNO plotters when convicted and will be bar from political office. He will rebuild UMNO and will have UMNO allied with PR has a strategic partner. MCA/MIC/Gerakan and other BN parties will be left high and dry if by this time they have not gone over to PR. Khairy knows once he has made UMNO strong and he can bid for power in PR as a strategic partner. This is the only way for Khairy to survive. Do not write off Khairy. Read the Anwar\’s PR statements that the BN MPs do not necessary need to cross over to support the PR government. This way Khairy keeps UMNO intact and mold into a progressive party in the mold of PKR. UMNO will remain a Bumiputra party but the UMNO constitution will be change to bar racial politics and statements by UMNO members. In 2 or 3 years Khairy will made a bid for PM with the blessing of PR.He will prove that UMNO without the racist will be an asset to PR and the people.
Pak Lah in next few days is going to get the King to call Anwar to show prove that he has the backing of the majority of the MPs. What Pak Lah is saying in the media is a wayang kulit to keep his enemies in UMNO off balance. This is the only way to say his legacy and history will judge him as a man who place the country before himself.
The story or you can call the script continues as I left it with the parting words “More to Come”
As the days get neared to the suppose target day, the haze suddenly stars to clear as the plot / script becomes clearer.
Anwar Ibrahim as say very famously “why wouldn’t Abdullah Badawi want to meet me, He is my friend”. This statement is to assure Abdullah Badawai the he Anwar has not ditched the plan agreed by both of them.
Abdullah Badawi when he says something but means the opposite. He says no Emergency session of Parliament is planed but what he is try to say is that there will be a emergency session of Parliament in the next few days. Abdullah knows that for UMNO to survive, it has to be reformed, getting rid of the self serving UMNO warlords and be in the opposition and reflect on it self. When UMNO is in the opposition, it will be easy to rid the party of the Warlords. Simple reason is to hand them over to the PR government with evidence for prosecution.
Khairy is the Middle and point man between Anwar and Abdullah. Remember when he returned Anwar’s passport personally to Anwar on his release from prison. Khairy knows if he wants to succeed, he must get rid of the obstacles in UMNO. Down the line after 2 to 3 years UMNO in the opposition, UMNO been reformed will be invited by PR to be a partner. Anwar will be PM for another 9 years and when he reaches 70, Khairy will be the PM by virtue of the largest party in PR. These 9 years Khairy will work to polish his image and the public will be grateful that he was instrumental in placing Anwar in power and getting rid of racial politics. He will prove to be an even better PM that Anwar.
Najib, ooh Poor Najib. He has already got a smell on the plot (But too late) and had to call of his visit to the Middle East. Najib knows that Anwar with Abdullah’s backing have sent the letter to the King to seek an audience with the King. Najib is trying to foil the plan. Once Anwar has the audience, Abdullah will have Parliament in session. Najib is no longer the Defense Minister (Abdullah’s master stoke) and can not call on the Armed Forces to effect a coup d-eta. Najib is working hard now to marshal the BN MPs and trying to prevent the defections. All is lost now for Najib. It is too late for him as he has already been checkmate by Khairy. Najib must be wondering about his fate either in exile, prison or in the hangman’s noose.
Syed Hamid has played the dumb Interior minister to the hilt and deserves an Oscar. He has as per plan made UMNO and the government unpopular with the tactic approval of Abdullah / Khairy. When the BN government falls, no pity will be felt for UMNO. Khairy knows he needs to get rid of the 40 to 60 years old warlord if he wants to be PM in 9 years time.
Mahathir, poor Mahathir, he was sucked into the plan unknowingly by Abdullah and Khairy. He made the Government very unpopular when he criticized the Government. Including washing the dirty laundry in the public. He is a has been and would not be of any use now to anybody. He is an old man past his glory days.
Muyuddin is just a stooge of Najib to force Abdullah out as a PM. This is only role and he has no more value except spending time in Prison.
For the other warlords I will come back to them in regards to their fate in my follow up which will be soon and also the role of the bloggers in the rise of Anwar and the defeat of Najib.
#3 by zak_hammaad on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 12:22 pm
Will Pakatan stop their scare-mongering if Anwar is not arrested under ISA!?
ISA does strictly apply to cases relating to terrorism and “subversive elements” (i.e. race and religion disparaging is subversive).
#4 by Ken G on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 12:27 pm
MCA should just shut up like SUPP instead of playing to the gallery by making noise but maintaining a subservient silence in front of their Umno masters.
By keeping quiet at least they acknowledge they have no power in the govt. By making stupid bleating noises behind their master’s back, they are trying to deceive the Chinese community.
Is MCA prepared to send a memorandum to BN Supreme Council, bring it up in Cabinet and Parliament? If not, just shut up!!
#5 by lhslhv on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 12:29 pm
MCA leaders will resign only on personal scandals NOT on righteous principles.
The main purpose of forming MCA by the founders has been sidelined to look after the interest of the few leaders now.
#6 by Jeffrey on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 12:40 pm
It is futile to measure MCA’s leaders (or for that matter other poticians on either side of the fence) in terms of democratic principles and ethics.
This is because politics, like business, is a game, and players within it view it as a game and play by the written and unwritten rules of that game, the only difference being the end of business is primarily profits, whereas politics primarily power, and secondarily profits that arise from power.
Rules in the game may overlap but not necessarily congruent to the rules, ethics and principles outside the game applicable to life in general.
Hence a person may well be principled and forgiving in private or social life but when engaged in the game and its rules will have not hesitation to brutally incarcerate another opponent/player under the ISA.
Those interested in this may research further on “Game Theory”, a study/theory of strategic behavior in “game” situations whether applied in economic, corporate or political affairs.
#7 by Jeffrey on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 12:41 pm
Take the case of elder stateman Lee Kuan Yew (LKY). Lim joined the PAP in 1954. His popularity rose rapidly and he became the leader of Chinese workers, trade unions and Chinese middle school students in the 1950s.
He was the only rival politician really feared in relation to his charisma and rhetorical skills. In The Singapore Story, Lee Kuan Yew offered ungrudging praise to Lim’s “hypnotic” oratory:
“…a ringing voice that flowed beautifully in his native Hokkien. The girls adored him, especially those in the trade unions. Once he got going after a cold start at the first two meetings, there was tremendous applause every time he spoke. By the end of the campaign, Lim Chin Siong was seen as a charismatic figure and a person to be reckoned with in Singapore politics and, what was of more immediate concern, within the PAP.”
Lim broke off with LKY/PAP. He formed the Barisan Sosialis Party in 17 September 1961. After Singapore’s national referendum which affirmed merger with Malaysia, Lim and many opposition party members were detained under the Internal Security Act by the ruling PAP government via the infamous Operation Coldstore on 2 February 1963, reminiscent of TDM’s Operation lallang. Lim detention was justified on grounds he was communist and it is contrpoversial whether he really was.
Lim was released (ostensibly to study law in UK) on July 28th 1969. The 6 year detention was sufficient to break him : he was depressed and suicidal, and died a broken man of a heart attack on 5 February 1996
LKY thought that had he not been ruthless, had it been the other way around, Lim Chin Siong would have been S’pore PM, and it would be LKY who would have been depressed and suicidal in ISA detention and died a broken man.
#8 by gofortruth on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 12:41 pm
I strongly believe that whether a person is deemed a threat to our national security or economy should not be decided upon by any single individual ( Syed Hamid or Abdullah Badawi or Nazib Razak) or a ruling coalition because we have seen how bias it was being used lately against people like an innocent Chinese news reporter; a much respected 3 term Chinese Opposition MP and a much loved Malay blogger.
There should be a “National Security Council” to decide on such matter. This council should comprise of 5 key voting figures of the nation:-
1) Prime Minister
2) Opposiyion leader
3) Chief Judge
4) Bar President
5) Chief Police
Our Home Minister should chair a closed door meeting and take a vote. The vote should be unamnimous.
MCA = NATO ( No Action Talk Only).
#9 by Jeffrey on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 12:42 pm
This is what is at stake, which is why the political game, just like other games, each has its own rules. So are we judging MCA or other politicians (say) UMNO’s politicians invoking ISA by the rules of the game or our own rules in private life???
One of the rule of political games is to get voters’ support and if necessary to deceive them for that support to attain power. So the principles of democratic ethic and trust used by electors/voters/rakyat to evaluate politicians are not necessarily the same as those used by politicians (eg how to manage manipulate perception if necessary by deception) to evaluate the electors/voters/rakyat.
So we can’t judge them by our own standards of what is virtuous or ethical – it’ll be at cross purposes and we’ll be disappointed – it is more realistic to evaluate them by the rules, written or unwritten of their game.
#10 by gofortruth on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 12:43 pm
To add – selectively used against the Indian Hindraf 5.
#11 by Jeffrey on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 12:45 pm
“Lim” is my earlier posting is a reference to Lim Chin Siong.
#12 by cheng on on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 12:48 pm
None of the isa ppl in the past 1 year, is any violent ppl, carrying fire arm, bombs, etc, none is terrorist, so isa no applicable. and is wrong for these ppl detention. person using isa (for past 1 year) should be sued.
#13 by dawsheng on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 12:52 pm
“anwar has been harping to topple the gov, isn’t this a nation threat to create unstability ?” – melurian
Well, if you support UMNO then the answer is yes.
#14 by cheng on on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 12:54 pm
grt it clear! anwar is a threat to umno, and NOT to malaysia.
#15 by dawsheng on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 12:56 pm
“Will Pakatan stop their scare-mongering if Anwar is not arrested under ISA!?” – Zak
Why is UMNO scared?
#16 by melurian on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 1:04 pm
“person using isa (for past 1 year) should be sued.”
1) person who label isa detention food as dog food ought to be sued wat ….
2) person who named “rival” party launched polis report and behind the detention, and yet failed to reveal the “person”‘s name and produce the polis report too ought to be sued wat….
#17 by dawsheng on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 1:10 pm
“So are we judging MCA or other politicians (say) UMNO’s politicians invoking ISA by the rules of the game or our own rules in private life???” – Jeffrey
For me, is my own rules in private life. As a Chinese, personally, MCA is a disgrace to the Chinese worldwide, it is so because the top leaders, the movers and shakers in MCA are mostly corrupted, they lied to the people for their own benefits. They are also blind, they said Chinese is better off since merdeka, but this is not what I see on the streets in Malaysia, or between the causeway to Singapore.
#18 by dawsheng on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 1:13 pm
Furthermore, because MCA says they represents the Chinese, I am automatically the enemy of most Malays and other races. I am not and will not play by MCA’s rules and games, anymore and never.
#19 by Robin01 on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 1:15 pm
They are so afraid of loosing their golden bowl. Resign? Not in a million year!
#20 by kopitiam99 on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 1:19 pm
Yb,
Sometime you are also a bit off balance in your haste to slap MCA … how do you expect that the lame and limp 4 ministers would get into your trap by just a word challenge in your website??? They are shrewd as far as their futures and career are concerned … they do not have the fighting spirit of Zaid…….
Please forget about MCA…. they are past tense… Pay more attention to PENANG and your son …make sure PENANG is the model state in Malaysia.. Come next election … We see all the blue in the sky …… You have your vision, your dream, …. God have granted to you via your son…. make full use of the God send opportunity to realize your vision and dream by making Penang a show-case at ‘quite a distance par’ with Singapore…..
Please give MCA a chance…. please do not slap them… they are so miserable and struggling to find a foothold….
At the best … when you are free, have a nice family gathering with your grandchild and not forgetting to have a cool kopi kau kau ….. chi piu…. plus a plate of Penang char kiew tiau
#21 by Jeffrey on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 1:19 pm
dawsheng, well said. Not only you, majority of Chinese. :)
#22 by dawsheng on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 1:24 pm
What is left of MCA but the four ministerial positions UMNO “pinjam” to them? The only reason why MCA will not leave BN is because they, together with UMNO, cheated Malaysians for their own gains. If UMNO ministers are charged with corruption, they will drag all the MCA ministers with them. As I said before, UMNO and MCA are but corrupt Malays and Chinese. Sama sama!
#23 by dawsheng on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 1:26 pm
Thanks, Jeffrey. :)
#24 by sabri on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 1:32 pm
sume diam xyah cite byk. biar parliman bersidang dulu.
#25 by lhslhv on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 1:43 pm
Frankly if we were to allow UMNO to government Malaysia for another 51 years, what can they achieve for Malaysia that we can be proud of?
Looking at the performance right now, the answer is nothing to shout about.
Looking at the world now, when the population of the Malays turns 70 million in Malaysia, it may become Zimbabwe with inflation rates to the tune of millions. Or it may become another Somalia where their people resort to hijacking sea liners to make a living.
Malaysia is strategically located at the Starits of Malacca which is an ideal breeding ground for pirates.
When pirates attacks are uncontrollable, Ismus of Kra (the thin strip of land joining Thailand and Malaysia) will be opened bypassing the Straits of Malacca.
Than evrybody will be out of job even for pirates. Then we have wiat for “durian runtuh” to survive.
#26 by CSKUEH on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 1:46 pm
Dear Melurian, I appreciate your feedback and comment.
Where justice is lacking, it is not the laws that is wrong, but humans that fail due to greed, abuse of power and law, and so on.
It is just like saying it is not the money itself but the love (greed) of money that is the root of all evils.
Concerning the ISA equivalent, maybe the gov’t can replace the ISA
by ATT (Anti Terrorism Act).
#27 by CSKUEH on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 1:54 pm
Sorry, typo error, should be ” ATA (Anti Terrorism Act)”
#28 by ktteokt on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 1:55 pm
There are just MONKEYS (M), CHIMPANZEES (C) and APES (A) left in MCA! Just send them to the zoo to be admired by Rakyat Malaysia and stop them from claiming to represent the Chinese in Malaysia! Whole lot of disgraceful primates!
#29 by clear conscience mirror on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 1:56 pm
YB LKS,
If at all SAPP’s Raymond Tan’s “dare” to confront the PM to “thwart” Yong Teck Lee’s ISA detention in June (subject to its truth of course), I think MCA leaders should do more for Malaysian Chinese for the support that MCA is now seeking from.
Let’s see whether this materializes or not or is it just a ploy…….a MCA election ploy to garner support for election into the highest decision making body of the MCA. For all you know, not even a single MCA leader may put his/her head on the chopping block of UMNO. If at all there is, the bark for such a dare will fizzle out after the MCA election……it doesn’t matter anymore as after all you already had you bride home…….what more do you still want to keep your in-laws.
#30 by gofortruth on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 1:58 pm
Ong Ka Ting is still in his out dated mode of “championing for the cause of the Chinese” taking the full venom spewed by Mahathir hook, line & sinker. He is the top man of MCA but behaves like a beggar in Barisan National. These current 4 MCA cabinet members are no better. How will MCA ever hope to rid itself off “the running dog of UMNO” & “chicken before UMNO” image??? They are a complete disgrace to all Malaysians!!!!!!
So long as this Mahathir’s “RACIST TREE” is still alive and this racist mindset still divides the people, the day of a Malaysia for all MALAYSIANS will still be a long way away.
#31 by Sony boy on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 2:04 pm
I agree with Mr Smith, MCA is the government.
I disagree with Elwin Heng who salue Zaid Ibrahim’s hasty resignation.
Even Teng Chang Khim said Zaid was hasty on AEC last Saturday. I think Zaid was stupid to leave government before he can make a difference. He gave up too soon, no fighting spirit like Uncle Kit. I don’t know if to laugh or cry when Zaid after resigned, asked Badawi to retain him as Senator. I think he has been goaded into resignation by silly people. Now we have no one to improve the judiciary.
For MCA, I hope Ong Tee Keat come in fast as President, with new faces to take over soon. Even though I appreciate Ong Ka Ting helped Teresa Kok to get out from ISA. I saw Teresa Kok thanked MCA on her release from ISA.
Uncle Kit, did you see the video? Its here: http://mylivingwall.com/v3/index.php?option=com_seyret&Itemid=93&task=videodirectlink&id=90
If MCA can get ISA people out, I think it is advantageous for us to keep them in the government.
If you look at SAPP now, they got glory and words only after getting out from BN but result is they are more powerless and useless now.
On the other hand, I was told the Race Relations Act is good to protect non muslims. How true is this?
#32 by biggun on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 2:08 pm
BELIEVE IT OR NOT? The MCA 4 will not resigned no matter what happened to DSAI, because they knew DSAI will not be arrested under ISA, no reason to arrest him, and MCA 4 knew it very well, that’s why they dared to open their BIG MOUTH, let see tomorrow,
When RPK is free, and the MCA 4 will praised DOLLAH for a job well done, and its business as usual for the upcoming october’s at MCA building, its not the MCA 4 and other leader to be blame, it is the grass roots and members of MCA, they should help all the MALAYSIAN to close down MCA, then the dusts will settle faster and all is happy.
#33 by biggun on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 2:22 pm
The Limping Duck & The Roast Duck, all are Clans of Donald Duck, I went to SS2, PJ on Sunday with my grand son, he ask me, grandpa, u see, big brown roast duck, and next to the wet market, he said, grandpa, u see, short fatty white duck, oh, my god, its limping duck, its a bad duck, and he said, I will throw my Donald Duck when I go home.,and may be grandpa, we can barbecue the duck infront of our house to make it roast duck. And I realised one day MCA will be a ROAST DUCK.
#34 by bclee on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 2:25 pm
RRPK’s habeas corpus application had been scheduled to be heard on 26th September.
It has now been brought forward.
please free RPK.
#35 by kutlakut on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 2:35 pm
There is something we know but won’t look it in the face – Gerakan, MCA are those we say, ‘ kick also won’t go.’
UMNO had said, ‘we don’t need Chinese and Indians votes!’ Wasn’t that clear enough that UMNO had scorn for these, knowing very well even if they were chastised publicy – there are still the crumbs to pick that fell off the table, They Won’t Go Away.
Crumbs, crumbs crumbs glorious food. Crumbs like 2 billion over spent in the Port Klang fiasco. See them fight tooth and claw to be the boss in the party.
Have we forgoten that Mahathir once said, ‘yes Malays feast at the table but what fell off the table, Chinese and Indians still can get. .. not verbatim. Check Straight Times archive.
Former president Lim admitted they had to beg, so did Sammy say the same – yet these three hang on to dear life for the crumbs.
What Can We Expect From Them? Truly silly of us to look in their direction if we need support. If they do come in though, they will be a liability in the long run, no doubt about that. If so we must watch them like hawks.
It is very rare to find such people given to selfishness without bounds. A rare breed indeed.
#36 by aston on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 2:44 pm
Do you also know that the May 13 incidents, the Chinese were victimized wrongly?
In truth, before 1969, the malays were in despot state yet Malaysia’s economy was vibrant.
Despite the Chinese being more economically prosperous, but in truth they only owned not more than 20% of the nation’s equity.
The bulk of the nation’s wealth went to Britain as the British still controlled most of our country’s wealth, i.e. tin and rubber.
But Umno didn’t tell the malays that. Instead, they told the malays that most wealth are going to the Chinese and therefore, the Chinese are making the malays poor.
Umno didn’t want to tell the malays that it was Umno who agreed for the British to remain in control of Malaysia’s wealth. And that Umno dare not retake the wealth away from the British.
Furthermore, the MCA and MIC didn’t help as well as they too benefited from the anti Chinese and anti malay sentiment.
So, when problems cannot be solved and the malays were openly rebelling against Umno, the easiest escape is to blame the Chinese and innocent Chinese blood was spilled for Umno madness.
#37 by swipenter on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 2:46 pm
Zak says:
“ISA does strictly apply to cases relating to terrorism and “subversive element” (i.e race and religion disparaging is subversive)”
Then shouldnt ISA be used on Umno warlords in the likes of Ahmad Ismail, Kerismuddin, Najib, the racist teacher etc.Why is the ISA used only on dissenting voices , innocent reporter, opposition MPs. Even if ISA is abused, abused it fairly!!!!!!?
#38 by just a moment on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 3:00 pm
YB Kit,
Was wondering what happen to Ahmad Ismail’s follow up case?
Utusan and Toyol’s case? All these cases can piled up day by day and why is it that we hear NOTHING about their follow up investigation report? Pls enlighten us?
We can forget about MCA. All said and done. They don’t even care what’s happening with the country except their own personal survival. Upon forming PKR New Goment, we just remember What MCA is all about, we’ll confined them as Parasite parliah Party and ask them to show Records on Accountability to rakyat and track record, if they even deserve to operate as an Association.
Inspite being a Chinese myself, Im willing to sacrify whatever connection MCA “claimed” to have help me in my business. The fact is Chinese people are getting a raw deal, they became perfect slaves to Umno projects. They are no different from Umno who cheats, steal, and hoodwink the rakyat.I don’t need them, period!!! Im consider fortunate they don’t cheat me and my friends.
Tomorrow is d ‘Big day’, or will it? Continue to pray for Breakthrough and DSAI and PKR March On!!!
#39 by rainbowseahorse on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 3:08 pm
giko, if I don’t know any better, I would say you are writing your story in the ‘first person’ format of KJ.
But I do agree on some of your theory and am reflecting on the rest!
#40 by zak_hammaad on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 3:23 pm
swipenter, Ahmad’s case you can take up with UMNO, clearly they blundered on him and continue to pay the price.
dawsheng, when I asked “Will Pakatan stop their scare-mongering if Anwar is not arrested under ISA!?” it was in terms of the instability and confusion he is sowing within the nation and not in the sense of any political party.
But who cares, he’s “got the numbers”, lol!!
#41 by Thor on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 3:27 pm
giko Says:
Today at 11: 47.59 (3 hours ago)
“I Spy” take n the end of mca n bn??? =
What a good imagination you have got.
Why not write a novel?
Could sell better than Harry Potter, I guess!!!
#42 by AhPek on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 3:39 pm
‘Concerning the ISA equivalent, maybe the gov’t can replace the ISA by ATA (Anti-Terrorism Act).’. CSKuah.
Bit of a tall order to hope for I am afraid.ISA was first mooted by the British during the War for the express purpose ofprotecting the state against sabotage by enemies both within and without.It was introduced to Malaya specifically against the communist insurgents.After Independence,UMNO has cometo inherit it, and over the years ISA has been morphed into an instrument to protect her interest in maitaining power.Even the Special Branch has been morphed from its original role of fighting communist insurgents into one of keeping Barisan in power.
#43 by dawsheng on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 4:47 pm
“it was in terms of the instability and confusion he is sowing within the nation and not in the sense of any political party.” – Zak
Are you confused Zak? Malaysians no longer that stupid to trust UMNO and BN lah oi!
#44 by zak_hammaad on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 4:56 pm
dawsheng, just as America and Europe do not make up the “international community”, likewise only Chinese and Indians do not make up the Malaysian people. As I said before Pakatan is doomed to failure because it does NOT have the support of most Malays. Pakatan can not rely on 20% Malay support and call inself “representing all Malaysians”. PAS is a token party with negligible seat representation, which I doubt will survive long in a pro-secular opposition.
#45 by bclee on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 5:31 pm
sama sama duduk satu kapal mah so corrupt Bee N with corrupt MCA will be work hand in hand but i am the taiko so i said u follow or else i fire u. what botak said currently kalau menteri-menteri tak suka letaklah jawatan.
#46 by gofortruth on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 5:42 pm
“MCA says no to hasty decision to leave BN”
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com.my/index.php/malaysia/9343-mca-says-no-to-hasty-decision-to-leave-bn
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Putting up petrol price by a hefty 41% overnight is HASTY!
Arresting innocent people under ISA to cause racial tension & fear & social unrest is threat to our national security & economy is HASTY! (and still having the nerve to put the blame on Anwar, shame shame shame!)
Switching Finance & Defence ministerial portfolio is HASTY!
But for MCA to leave BN is LONG LONG LONG LONG OVER DUE lah!
#47 by riversandlakes on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 6:42 pm
MCA is irrelevant.
#48 by veddy.lum74 on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 7:35 pm
gofortruth,
phucklah increased the petrol price overnight without refering to the cabinet,and now,the new finance minister najis says he has to refer the lowering petrol price issue to the cabinet!the white-hair fello got no comment at all!what the hell are they doing?
this Bolehland is run by a bunch of incompetent datuk-datuk,dato seri-dato-seri and tan sri tansri,very soon even Somali will overtake us!!!
#49 by dawsheng on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 8:43 pm
“As I said before Pakatan is doomed to failure because it does NOT have the support of most Malays.” – Zak
If Pakatan failed because it does not have the support of most Malays, then Malaysia is doomed under BN anyway.
#50 by dawsheng on Monday, 22 September 2008 - 8:55 pm
“PAS is a token party with negligible seat representation, which I doubt will survive long in a pro-secular opposition.” – Zak
With 3 menteri besar portfolio, how can PAS be a token party in Pakatan? PAS may not survive in a pro-secular government but that’s alright, they rejected UMNO.