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	<title>Comments on: We are all class-ed multiculturalists now!</title>
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		<title>By: bystander</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/22/we-are-all-class-ed-multiculturalists-now/comment-page-1/#comment-137791</link>
		<dc:creator>bystander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr Azly cannot come la. because if he does, he will get death threats and maybe under isa like rpk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr Azly cannot come la. because if he does, he will get death threats and maybe under isa like rpk</p>
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		<title>By: lopez</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/22/we-are-all-class-ed-multiculturalists-now/comment-page-1/#comment-137790</link>
		<dc:creator>lopez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And what says his cousins and distant relatives....er er sorry lah i do know lah because i admit  i dont know their language and cultures. and i dont try to bluff my way out.

Thats the matter ,,,,the language and cultures of other people....dont just jump into the band wagon......i

Unlike in bilihland some of us think they know what is good for others, even some thinks they are more superior but actually only in quantity only.

So when preferential treatment begets certain quarters of society , the trigger has been pulled and all hell break lose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what says his cousins and distant relatives&#8230;.er er sorry lah i do know lah because i admit  i dont know their language and cultures. and i dont try to bluff my way out.</p>
<p>Thats the matter ,,,,the language and cultures of other people&#8230;.dont just jump into the band wagon&#8230;&#8230;i</p>
<p>Unlike in bilihland some of us think they know what is good for others, even some thinks they are more superior but actually only in quantity only.</p>
<p>So when preferential treatment begets certain quarters of society , the trigger has been pulled and all hell break lose.</p>
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		<title>By: lopez</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/22/we-are-all-class-ed-multiculturalists-now/comment-page-1/#comment-137789</link>
		<dc:creator>lopez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes yes yes  so bold yet so damn naive, just because this guy lectures in one of the universities (as claimed ) in the us of a outrights as good offering 

Are u so immersed with such wordings that you do not have the slightest twinch in your oppressed minds that cousins of the us of a also have many deserving thoughs too if not offensive ones.

So before being labelled as a yes men please lah ponder sikit sikt lah you deserve it if you claimed to be a equally constructive vocal and a wananbe critic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes yes yes  so bold yet so damn naive, just because this guy lectures in one of the universities (as claimed ) in the us of a outrights as good offering </p>
<p>Are u so immersed with such wordings that you do not have the slightest twinch in your oppressed minds that cousins of the us of a also have many deserving thoughs too if not offensive ones.</p>
<p>So before being labelled as a yes men please lah ponder sikit sikt lah you deserve it if you claimed to be a equally constructive vocal and a wananbe critic.</p>
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		<title>By: bystander</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/22/we-are-all-class-ed-multiculturalists-now/comment-page-1/#comment-137762</link>
		<dc:creator>bystander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr Azly is what you would term "Towering Malay" unlike the umnoputras and members who are all "kampung melayu".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr Azly is what you would term &#8220;Towering Malay&#8221; unlike the umnoputras and members who are all &#8220;kampung melayu&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Loh</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/22/we-are-all-class-ed-multiculturalists-now/comment-page-1/#comment-137748</link>
		<dc:creator>Loh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 10:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>///Is race and ethnicity an illusion and a mental construction? Or is it real as real as body and flesh we fight with using and used by the rhetoric of nationalism in honor of our country right or wrong? How might education help bring about the desired changes in the way we translate concepts to practice?///Azly Rahman

The fact that race, the prominent one, Malay has to be defined using the parameter of religion, language and culture where adherence to it was left undefined in article 160 of the constitution says that race, as far as in respect of Malay, is a synthetic construct. 
The glue binding the people classified to the so-called ethnic group is article 153 of the constitution. It offers them the privileges, which since the removal of the provision for a review, allowed the people classified therein to claim the rights as pride of the community. The forefathers who created the political party which over the last 51 years have been seizing more political power than the proportionate share of the population allowed. Further participation in politics under the aegis of the race-based party has become the most lucrative occupation mankind has ever created where rewards overcompensated their efforts, and in the process the vast majority of the population slave for the luxury enjoyed by a small well connected population. Race and religion serves to divide the masters and the subjects, which are facilitated through education which hones their art in political games. Education cannot change the stakeholders who are able to take advantage of others with impunity, and in the society where shame in unjust practices has lost its meaning which is despised only by those who had no power to change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>///Is race and ethnicity an illusion and a mental construction? Or is it real as real as body and flesh we fight with using and used by the rhetoric of nationalism in honor of our country right or wrong? How might education help bring about the desired changes in the way we translate concepts to practice?///Azly Rahman</p>
<p>The fact that race, the prominent one, Malay has to be defined using the parameter of religion, language and culture where adherence to it was left undefined in article 160 of the constitution says that race, as far as in respect of Malay, is a synthetic construct.<br />
The glue binding the people classified to the so-called ethnic group is article 153 of the constitution. It offers them the privileges, which since the removal of the provision for a review, allowed the people classified therein to claim the rights as pride of the community. The forefathers who created the political party which over the last 51 years have been seizing more political power than the proportionate share of the population allowed. Further participation in politics under the aegis of the race-based party has become the most lucrative occupation mankind has ever created where rewards overcompensated their efforts, and in the process the vast majority of the population slave for the luxury enjoyed by a small well connected population. Race and religion serves to divide the masters and the subjects, which are facilitated through education which hones their art in political games. Education cannot change the stakeholders who are able to take advantage of others with impunity, and in the society where shame in unjust practices has lost its meaning which is despised only by those who had no power to change.</p>
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		<title>By: AhPek</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/22/we-are-all-class-ed-multiculturalists-now/comment-page-1/#comment-137688</link>
		<dc:creator>AhPek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 07:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>correction: 'Absolutely spot on .......................................ie UMNOPUTRAS (....
....) will feel hardly any impact.'.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>correction: &#8216;Absolutely spot on &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;ie UMNOPUTRAS (&#8230;.<br />
&#8230;.) will feel hardly any impact.&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: AhPek</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/22/we-are-all-class-ed-multiculturalists-now/comment-page-1/#comment-137686</link>
		<dc:creator>AhPek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 07:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>'The taxi driver who drove me from the airport to my hotel gave me a quick run
down of the politics-unless you are UMNO cronies you find life hard.'. limaho.

Absolutely spot on this run down given to you.You know how amazingly accurate the news on the local scene one can get from the ordinary man in thestreet,very often better than political analysts for a very simple reason ...government policies hit quickest and hardest on Joe Public, the elites ie UMNOPUTRAS (which include all elites of the civil service,Police,Army,Judiciary,AG chambers etc etc) hardly anything.A typical example is the steep rise of petrol and rise of food prices.The elites travel in cars provided by the tax payers with petrol thrown in too and very often they abuse such prvileges as well.Buka Puasa for them is done in 5-star hotels on somebody's account.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;The taxi driver who drove me from the airport to my hotel gave me a quick run<br />
down of the politics-unless you are UMNO cronies you find life hard.&#8217;. limaho.</p>
<p>Absolutely spot on this run down given to you.You know how amazingly accurate the news on the local scene one can get from the ordinary man in thestreet,very often better than political analysts for a very simple reason &#8230;government policies hit quickest and hardest on Joe Public, the elites ie UMNOPUTRAS (which include all elites of the civil service,Police,Army,Judiciary,AG chambers etc etc) hardly anything.A typical example is the steep rise of petrol and rise of food prices.The elites travel in cars provided by the tax payers with petrol thrown in too and very often they abuse such prvileges as well.Buka Puasa for them is done in 5-star hotels on somebody&#8217;s account.</p>
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		<title>By: Malaysian Always</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/22/we-are-all-class-ed-multiculturalists-now/comment-page-1/#comment-137665</link>
		<dc:creator>Malaysian Always</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 06:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>zak_hamaad: are you saying that Azly's article is biased? Please clarify.

Azly: If you were to post this article to BN members and govt servants, it won't do. The education system they have underwent will not enable them to understand the depth of your literature. It's best if you could reproduce this in primary 1 english.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>zak_hamaad: are you saying that Azly&#8217;s article is biased? Please clarify.</p>
<p>Azly: If you were to post this article to BN members and govt servants, it won&#8217;t do. The education system they have underwent will not enable them to understand the depth of your literature. It&#8217;s best if you could reproduce this in primary 1 english.</p>
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		<title>By: zak_hammaad</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/22/we-are-all-class-ed-multiculturalists-now/comment-page-1/#comment-137596</link>
		<dc:creator>zak_hammaad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 02:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Azly contributes regularly on RPK's blog; now that is saying something about the guy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Azly contributes regularly on RPK&#8217;s blog; now that is saying something about the guy!</p>
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