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		<title>By: onetruevine</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/with-seismic-events-afoot-who-do-you-believe/comment-page-2/#comment-137514</link>
		<dc:creator>onetruevine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all these seismic activities, i trust only one song.

Don&#039;t Cry for me Malaysia,

the truth is i never left you

all through my sleeping days, my sorry existence....

i am sorry, i cant go on singing anymore, it is so sad so depressing and i dedicate this song to all the dedicated Leaders of our beloved nation. Not forgetting Syed fella ......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all these seismic activities, i trust only one song.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t Cry for me Malaysia,</p>
<p>the truth is i never left you</p>
<p>all through my sleeping days, my sorry existence&#8230;.</p>
<p>i am sorry, i cant go on singing anymore, it is so sad so depressing and i dedicate this song to all the dedicated Leaders of our beloved nation. Not forgetting Syed fella &#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: lopez</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/with-seismic-events-afoot-who-do-you-believe/comment-page-2/#comment-137486</link>
		<dc:creator>lopez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bolihland is under seige , how then the affiars of a nation is dependent on the outcome of decisions from a club of clowns.

There appears a serious breach in duty of certian people who cannot decide by themselves by the power vested upon them but have to seek approval from an invisible court.

Where is the hierarchy of command, please take out the manual and rtfm and where is the keeper of bolihland Constitution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bolihland is under seige , how then the affiars of a nation is dependent on the outcome of decisions from a club of clowns.</p>
<p>There appears a serious breach in duty of certian people who cannot decide by themselves by the power vested upon them but have to seek approval from an invisible court.</p>
<p>Where is the hierarchy of command, please take out the manual and rtfm and where is the keeper of bolihland Constitution.</p>
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		<title>By: Loh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 05:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PM AAB though he has learnt Lao Zhi&#039;s philosophy which premises on do nothing but everything gets done, and he tried applying it in his administration. He was almost right except that when he should not be doing anything, he did, and did it wrong. That is his downfall.

If he kept to doing nothing, no ISA for Hindraf, no support for his son-in-law claiming Malay agenda when the country should be talking about 2020, for example, then the country might have become more open. AAB has pretended to believe that comments and even heated debates about sensitive issues such as race and religion would have people end up taking blows in the street. That would never happen if political parties, especially the one he was the head does not organize them. It is only through open debates that issues can be desensitized, and they will not hijacked by politicians who depend on it for survival. 

The fault of AAB was not his sleeping habits. He was not consistent in sleeping. He should have done nothing, but he chose to do things, which were always wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PM AAB though he has learnt Lao Zhi&#8217;s philosophy which premises on do nothing but everything gets done, and he tried applying it in his administration. He was almost right except that when he should not be doing anything, he did, and did it wrong. That is his downfall.</p>
<p>If he kept to doing nothing, no ISA for Hindraf, no support for his son-in-law claiming Malay agenda when the country should be talking about 2020, for example, then the country might have become more open. AAB has pretended to believe that comments and even heated debates about sensitive issues such as race and religion would have people end up taking blows in the street. That would never happen if political parties, especially the one he was the head does not organize them. It is only through open debates that issues can be desensitized, and they will not hijacked by politicians who depend on it for survival. </p>
<p>The fault of AAB was not his sleeping habits. He was not consistent in sleeping. He should have done nothing, but he chose to do things, which were always wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: isahbiazhar</title>
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		<dc:creator>isahbiazhar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 20:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nowadays the truth is scarce.UMNO leaders spin or doctor so that they will look good.Hishamuddin is an upcoming leader and he has to toe the line before his cousin takes over.As an eduction minister he has failed.As an UMNO youth leader he has failed.What is his future?It depends on Najib; a liability.Both are fighting for survival and so all spoken words had to be doctored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nowadays the truth is scarce.UMNO leaders spin or doctor so that they will look good.Hishamuddin is an upcoming leader and he has to toe the line before his cousin takes over.As an eduction minister he has failed.As an UMNO youth leader he has failed.What is his future?It depends on Najib; a liability.Both are fighting for survival and so all spoken words had to be doctored.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr.Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr.Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 18:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually , it doesn&#039;t matter who is the PM ( Abdullah  Or najib) it will be the same Because both of them are from the same boat. Changing Driver for the same Vehicle doesn&#039;t make any different , we need to repair the vehicle too. Najib could be worst than Abdullah . Take a look at najib behaviour &amp; his past record. He is a spoiled  kid.  C4 could be used against our daughters instead of Mongolian girls.If Najib be the PM , it will be a nightmare for me. we need to change our system otherwise changing PM won&#039;t help. Anyway Malaysia is set to fail. Take a look at Turkey , 98 % of her population is muslim , yet they are better than us. we dpn&#039;t have a rule of Law here. The top leaders can do whatever they want, ...Killing , cheating , stealing &amp; bullying. What a nation Malaysia is  ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually , it doesn&#8217;t matter who is the PM ( Abdullah  Or najib) it will be the same Because both of them are from the same boat. Changing Driver for the same Vehicle doesn&#8217;t make any different , we need to repair the vehicle too. Najib could be worst than Abdullah . Take a look at najib behaviour &amp; his past record. He is a spoiled  kid.  C4 could be used against our daughters instead of Mongolian girls.If Najib be the PM , it will be a nightmare for me. we need to change our system otherwise changing PM won&#8217;t help. Anyway Malaysia is set to fail. Take a look at Turkey , 98 % of her population is muslim , yet they are better than us. we dpn&#8217;t have a rule of Law here. The top leaders can do whatever they want, &#8230;Killing , cheating , stealing &amp; bullying. What a nation Malaysia is  ?</p>
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		<title>By: Edgar J</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/with-seismic-events-afoot-who-do-you-believe/comment-page-2/#comment-137232</link>
		<dc:creator>Edgar J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 17:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The saddest thing is to see betrayal by power hungry members of your fraternity.

Already, the heat is on Abdullah by Anwar.

Now, Najib is stepping into the fray in the guise of other members, konon!

The greater evil is not so much Abdullah, but to prevent Najib from taking over. Even Abdullah knows that, that&#039;s why we have the 2010 transition plan - to gather enough shit on Najib to prevent his ascendency.

Seems now, there are either 2 factions within UMNO or one faction that does not know how to play the two-faced game i.e. trust the stupidity of Hishamuddin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The saddest thing is to see betrayal by power hungry members of your fraternity.</p>
<p>Already, the heat is on Abdullah by Anwar.</p>
<p>Now, Najib is stepping into the fray in the guise of other members, konon!</p>
<p>The greater evil is not so much Abdullah, but to prevent Najib from taking over. Even Abdullah knows that, that&#8217;s why we have the 2010 transition plan &#8211; to gather enough shit on Najib to prevent his ascendency.</p>
<p>Seems now, there are either 2 factions within UMNO or one faction that does not know how to play the two-faced game i.e. trust the stupidity of Hishamuddin.</p>
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		<title>By: pulau_sibu</title>
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		<dc:creator>pulau_sibu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 16:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why Abdullah is clinging on
September 21, 2008 Sunday, 12:23 PM
Reme Ahmad on why Malaysia&#039;s PM won&#039;t and can&#039;t step down yet.

A QUESTION that I have been asked again and again since the March general elections is this: Why doesn&#039;t Prime Minister Abdullah Badawi just quit?

He did promise Malaysians improved policing, a better judiciary system, and better rule of law, opening up the media, reduce corruption, etc.

Sadly, under him, crime has jumped, the judiciary remains shaky, the tough Internal Security Act law had just been unleashed again, the mainstream media is used to spin stories not write facts, and corruption seems to have gotten worse.

Added to these -- race relations and the economy have also taken a beating.

There are actually good reasons, from his perspective, why he does not want to step down quickly.

    * Umno is in a mess, with the ground angry, confused and scared of losing power.

    * The civil servants are in disarray too on whether, and how far, they should help these four Pakatan states or not. I said four, and not five, because after 18 years under PAS, federal civil servants in Kelantan know how to play the game.

But one word, perhaps, sums up what he why he wants to stay on - Legacy.

(Of course, there is also a very good reason why he SHOULD step down also - namely, so that Umno could re-unite under a stronger leader, Deputy PM Najib Razak).

But look at it from Datuk Seri Abdullah&#039;s point of view - he cannot afford to step down now.

Or else he would be forever seen in the history books as the prime minister who did almost nothing.

Yes, he launched all those corridors.

Yes, he did somehow, and without having real control, did open up the media space.

But he would want to go down in history as having achieved something tangible, something solid even.

Don&#039;t we all?

Put yourself in his position - would you leave when you see things are not right?

He sees himself as a responsible person who should put things right first.

The unkind view would be that he did not want to step down because the people behind him, the so-called Level 4 boys, want him there so that could remain in power too.

And that those who wanted to cling on include his family who are allegedly also profiting him staying his power.

But to appreciate how PM Abdullah looks at himself, let us look at the contributions of the past prime ministers, and the great titles given to them by some people: 

No. 1 - Tunku Abdul Rahman Putra, Father of Independence

For whatever his detractors may say after the 1969 race riots and he might have failed to do etc, he did get Malaysia its independence.

You cannot talk about Malaysia&#039;s independence without showing that famous picture of Tunku shouting &#039;Merdeka&#039; while a couple of white men dignitaries sat behind him, power handed over smoothly.

No. 2 - Tun Razak Hussein, Father of Development

The second prime minister, set up the New Economic Policy in 1971.

He is the father of deputy prime minister, Najib Razak, the man who could be prime minister very soon.

The policy has been much abused today by Umno, but it certainly helped to raise millions of middle class Malays.

The NEP backed poor Malays with financial aid so they could study abroad or locally, gave them top jobs (even though they might not be the most qualified), and even handed them cheap shares as Chinese companies which wanted to list on the stock exchange must have 30 per cent Bumiputra partners.

Of course, the Chinese and other minorities are angered by this, but it did help raise the middle class Malays today.

And Tun Razak, in trying to eradicate poverty among Malays, pushed Felda (Federal Land Development Authority), a legacy that helped Malays to own millions of hectares of plantation land - mostly palm oil and rubber. Some call him Father of Development.

No. 3 - Tun Hussein Onn, Father of Unity

He stood firmly behind the unity of the races and how to work the economy to achieve this, earning him the title Father of Unity.

He launched Amanah Saham Nasional (ASN), or the national unit trust scheme.

He also pushed the concept of Rukun Tetangga (Neighbourhood Watch scheme), where villages and residents of in town areas take turns to guard their neighbourhood. It was quite multi-racial in nature, in that neighbours from the various communities worked together in this scheme, from what I remembered. 

No. 4 - Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad, Father of Modernisation

He led for a record 22 years. He changed Malaysia from a rural economy dependent on rubber and tin to an industrial nation and the 17th biggest trading nation in the world.

Father of Modernisation is an apt title for him.

Though it must be noted (and many have these days) that the press was increasingly muzzled, and the judiciary lost its independence during his time.

And corruption in politics, like corruption in business, and the cosy ties between business and politics, just grew and grew.

Still, to many &#039;men-in-the-street&#039; types, it was during his premiership that middle class Malaysians own houses and two cars.

THE COUNTDOWN HAS STARTED

Now let us return to why PM Abdullah is not quitting.

He had said he will contest the December Umno elections and wanted to exit only in mid-2010, and that too under pressure.

He might now not contest the December polls and might quit before that.

Reverse a few days earlier, and people would remember him saying he wanted to &#039;put things right&#039; before passing on the baton to Deputy PM Najib.

Obviously, he does not want to be known as the fifth Prime Minister, but the first one that did not have anything to show for it.

The Premier with no Legacy.

How then would we remember him?

Making a joke that he would be remembered as Father of Kamaluddin and Father (in-law) of KJ, is easy enough.

Kamaluddin is his multimillionaire businessman son, while KJ, Khairy Jamaluddin is his politically-ambitious son in law.

So Mr Abdullah had indeed needed the two years to 2010 to stamp his name on policies and issues.

He did promise Malaysians improved policing, a better judiciary system, and better rule of law, opening up the media, reduce corruption, etc.

Sadly, under him, crime has jumped, the judiciary has not remains shaky, the tough Internal Security Act law had just been unleashed again, the mainstream media is used to spin stories not write facts, and corruption seems to have gotten worse.

Added to these -- race relations and the economy are have also taken a beating.

And it is a pity that, from what Malaysians have seen in the last five years, few people seriously think that he could do anything at all.

They say: If he could not and did not achieve anything while he was strong, how could he do it now when he is much weakened?

And today, sadly, almost everyone has started their countdown to his exit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why Abdullah is clinging on<br />
September 21, 2008 Sunday, 12:23 PM<br />
Reme Ahmad on why Malaysia&#8217;s PM won&#8217;t and can&#8217;t step down yet.</p>
<p>A QUESTION that I have been asked again and again since the March general elections is this: Why doesn&#8217;t Prime Minister Abdullah Badawi just quit?</p>
<p>He did promise Malaysians improved policing, a better judiciary system, and better rule of law, opening up the media, reduce corruption, etc.</p>
<p>Sadly, under him, crime has jumped, the judiciary remains shaky, the tough Internal Security Act law had just been unleashed again, the mainstream media is used to spin stories not write facts, and corruption seems to have gotten worse.</p>
<p>Added to these &#8212; race relations and the economy have also taken a beating.</p>
<p>There are actually good reasons, from his perspective, why he does not want to step down quickly.</p>
<p>    * Umno is in a mess, with the ground angry, confused and scared of losing power.</p>
<p>    * The civil servants are in disarray too on whether, and how far, they should help these four Pakatan states or not. I said four, and not five, because after 18 years under PAS, federal civil servants in Kelantan know how to play the game.</p>
<p>But one word, perhaps, sums up what he why he wants to stay on &#8211; Legacy.</p>
<p>(Of course, there is also a very good reason why he SHOULD step down also &#8211; namely, so that Umno could re-unite under a stronger leader, Deputy PM Najib Razak).</p>
<p>But look at it from Datuk Seri Abdullah&#8217;s point of view &#8211; he cannot afford to step down now.</p>
<p>Or else he would be forever seen in the history books as the prime minister who did almost nothing.</p>
<p>Yes, he launched all those corridors.</p>
<p>Yes, he did somehow, and without having real control, did open up the media space.</p>
<p>But he would want to go down in history as having achieved something tangible, something solid even.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t we all?</p>
<p>Put yourself in his position &#8211; would you leave when you see things are not right?</p>
<p>He sees himself as a responsible person who should put things right first.</p>
<p>The unkind view would be that he did not want to step down because the people behind him, the so-called Level 4 boys, want him there so that could remain in power too.</p>
<p>And that those who wanted to cling on include his family who are allegedly also profiting him staying his power.</p>
<p>But to appreciate how PM Abdullah looks at himself, let us look at the contributions of the past prime ministers, and the great titles given to them by some people: </p>
<p>No. 1 &#8211; Tunku Abdul Rahman Putra, Father of Independence</p>
<p>For whatever his detractors may say after the 1969 race riots and he might have failed to do etc, he did get Malaysia its independence.</p>
<p>You cannot talk about Malaysia&#8217;s independence without showing that famous picture of Tunku shouting &#8216;Merdeka&#8217; while a couple of white men dignitaries sat behind him, power handed over smoothly.</p>
<p>No. 2 &#8211; Tun Razak Hussein, Father of Development</p>
<p>The second prime minister, set up the New Economic Policy in 1971.</p>
<p>He is the father of deputy prime minister, Najib Razak, the man who could be prime minister very soon.</p>
<p>The policy has been much abused today by Umno, but it certainly helped to raise millions of middle class Malays.</p>
<p>The NEP backed poor Malays with financial aid so they could study abroad or locally, gave them top jobs (even though they might not be the most qualified), and even handed them cheap shares as Chinese companies which wanted to list on the stock exchange must have 30 per cent Bumiputra partners.</p>
<p>Of course, the Chinese and other minorities are angered by this, but it did help raise the middle class Malays today.</p>
<p>And Tun Razak, in trying to eradicate poverty among Malays, pushed Felda (Federal Land Development Authority), a legacy that helped Malays to own millions of hectares of plantation land &#8211; mostly palm oil and rubber. Some call him Father of Development.</p>
<p>No. 3 &#8211; Tun Hussein Onn, Father of Unity</p>
<p>He stood firmly behind the unity of the races and how to work the economy to achieve this, earning him the title Father of Unity.</p>
<p>He launched Amanah Saham Nasional (ASN), or the national unit trust scheme.</p>
<p>He also pushed the concept of Rukun Tetangga (Neighbourhood Watch scheme), where villages and residents of in town areas take turns to guard their neighbourhood. It was quite multi-racial in nature, in that neighbours from the various communities worked together in this scheme, from what I remembered. </p>
<p>No. 4 &#8211; Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad, Father of Modernisation</p>
<p>He led for a record 22 years. He changed Malaysia from a rural economy dependent on rubber and tin to an industrial nation and the 17th biggest trading nation in the world.</p>
<p>Father of Modernisation is an apt title for him.</p>
<p>Though it must be noted (and many have these days) that the press was increasingly muzzled, and the judiciary lost its independence during his time.</p>
<p>And corruption in politics, like corruption in business, and the cosy ties between business and politics, just grew and grew.</p>
<p>Still, to many &#8216;men-in-the-street&#8217; types, it was during his premiership that middle class Malaysians own houses and two cars.</p>
<p>THE COUNTDOWN HAS STARTED</p>
<p>Now let us return to why PM Abdullah is not quitting.</p>
<p>He had said he will contest the December Umno elections and wanted to exit only in mid-2010, and that too under pressure.</p>
<p>He might now not contest the December polls and might quit before that.</p>
<p>Reverse a few days earlier, and people would remember him saying he wanted to &#8216;put things right&#8217; before passing on the baton to Deputy PM Najib.</p>
<p>Obviously, he does not want to be known as the fifth Prime Minister, but the first one that did not have anything to show for it.</p>
<p>The Premier with no Legacy.</p>
<p>How then would we remember him?</p>
<p>Making a joke that he would be remembered as Father of Kamaluddin and Father (in-law) of KJ, is easy enough.</p>
<p>Kamaluddin is his multimillionaire businessman son, while KJ, Khairy Jamaluddin is his politically-ambitious son in law.</p>
<p>So Mr Abdullah had indeed needed the two years to 2010 to stamp his name on policies and issues.</p>
<p>He did promise Malaysians improved policing, a better judiciary system, and better rule of law, opening up the media, reduce corruption, etc.</p>
<p>Sadly, under him, crime has jumped, the judiciary has not remains shaky, the tough Internal Security Act law had just been unleashed again, the mainstream media is used to spin stories not write facts, and corruption seems to have gotten worse.</p>
<p>Added to these &#8212; race relations and the economy are have also taken a beating.</p>
<p>And it is a pity that, from what Malaysians have seen in the last five years, few people seriously think that he could do anything at all.</p>
<p>They say: If he could not and did not achieve anything while he was strong, how could he do it now when he is much weakened?</p>
<p>And today, sadly, almost everyone has started their countdown to his exit.</p>
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		<title>By: bclee</title>
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		<dc:creator>bclee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 16:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>botak said the the used of ISA no political motive please read the below artical:

www.malaysiawaves.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>botak said the the used of ISA no political motive please read the below artical:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.malaysiawaves.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.malaysiawaves.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: cemerlang</title>
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		<dc:creator>cemerlang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 16:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t cry. In Asian culture, that is not manly. But if you have to cry, then ask yourself. Why should you cry if you have done nothing; literally nothing; nothing that is so good but something that is so bad ? Cry because you realize you are not being supported ? Then why the stubborness and the pride when people tell you that it is over for you ? The first time people warn you, you should be careful. Yet, not only you don&#039;t listen, but you do something that worsen the situation. I agree with some of you when you said that in Japan, the Prime Minister resign willingly when he knows that he could not do much for the country. That is a much more honourable discharge than having people to convince that you need to step down and having to have people make your stepping down looks good. People say a woman&#039;s cry is actually a weapon. Instead of having a political culture of pitying that politician, it is time to be objective and factual. Pitying a particular politician and giving way to him or her will not help the country. Instead if he is allowed to stay any longer and refuse to change his ways or correct his mistakes, it will destroy the country. It is too bad the P.M. does not read blogs or messages sent to him. What is the point of having the warkah untuk P.M. if he does not read and take action ? The messages will be read by everyone and anyone except P.M. himself. May be the messages will just be a good source of information for somebody&#039;s work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t cry. In Asian culture, that is not manly. But if you have to cry, then ask yourself. Why should you cry if you have done nothing; literally nothing; nothing that is so good but something that is so bad ? Cry because you realize you are not being supported ? Then why the stubborness and the pride when people tell you that it is over for you ? The first time people warn you, you should be careful. Yet, not only you don&#8217;t listen, but you do something that worsen the situation. I agree with some of you when you said that in Japan, the Prime Minister resign willingly when he knows that he could not do much for the country. That is a much more honourable discharge than having people to convince that you need to step down and having to have people make your stepping down looks good. People say a woman&#8217;s cry is actually a weapon. Instead of having a political culture of pitying that politician, it is time to be objective and factual. Pitying a particular politician and giving way to him or her will not help the country. Instead if he is allowed to stay any longer and refuse to change his ways or correct his mistakes, it will destroy the country. It is too bad the P.M. does not read blogs or messages sent to him. What is the point of having the warkah untuk P.M. if he does not read and take action ? The messages will be read by everyone and anyone except P.M. himself. May be the messages will just be a good source of information for somebody&#8217;s work.</p>
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		<title>By: alancheah</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/with-seismic-events-afoot-who-do-you-believe/comment-page-1/#comment-137225</link>
		<dc:creator>alancheah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 16:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good luck to this country!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good luck to this country!</p>
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		<title>By: bclee</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/with-seismic-events-afoot-who-do-you-believe/comment-page-1/#comment-137224</link>
		<dc:creator>bclee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 16:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How come this type of botak can become our home minister.
i just can&#039;t understand,can any one tell me or no?

please release RPK,Hindraf and all under ISA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How come this type of botak can become our home minister.<br />
i just can&#8217;t understand,can any one tell me or no?</p>
<p>please release RPK,Hindraf and all under ISA</p>
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		<title>By: peterchiang</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/with-seismic-events-afoot-who-do-you-believe/comment-page-1/#comment-137223</link>
		<dc:creator>peterchiang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 16:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe you should add that they MUST all agreed before action is taken, or else it will still be a go with 3 of the 5 fellas acting in cohort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe you should add that they MUST all agreed before action is taken, or else it will still be a go with 3 of the 5 fellas acting in cohort.</p>
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		<title>By: bclee</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/with-seismic-events-afoot-who-do-you-believe/comment-page-1/#comment-137221</link>
		<dc:creator>bclee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 16:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just reading today news, what this stupid botak said really aroused my cool tamper, i am very hot now.
i think he never used his mind at all when giving out any statement to the public, used ISA to protect the safety of reporter,it mean our police force can&#039;t protect a girl?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just reading today news, what this stupid botak said really aroused my cool tamper, i am very hot now.<br />
i think he never used his mind at all when giving out any statement to the public, used ISA to protect the safety of reporter,it mean our police force can&#8217;t protect a girl?</p>
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		<title>By: homeblogger</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/with-seismic-events-afoot-who-do-you-believe/comment-page-1/#comment-137219</link>
		<dc:creator>homeblogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 15:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gofortruth said :

I think whether a person is deemed a national threat or economy threat should be decided upon by unanimous vote from a select committee of people:
1) Prime Minister
2) Opposition Leader
3) Chief Judge
4) Bar President
5) Inspector General Police.

This vital responsibility should never be left on the hand of just one person or a ruling party in the country.

=====================================

It is. The committee that decides on the use of ISA is :

- Chairman : Ahmad Ismail*
- Secretary General : Ahmad Ismail*
- Home Minister : Ahmad Ismail*
- Defence Minister : Ahmad Ismail*
- IGP : Ahmad Ismail*
- General of Armed Forces : Ahmad Ismail*

* Optional choice : Khir Toyo or Syed Hamid Albar</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gofortruth said :</p>
<p>I think whether a person is deemed a national threat or economy threat should be decided upon by unanimous vote from a select committee of people:<br />
1) Prime Minister<br />
2) Opposition Leader<br />
3) Chief Judge<br />
4) Bar President<br />
5) Inspector General Police.</p>
<p>This vital responsibility should never be left on the hand of just one person or a ruling party in the country.</p>
<p>=====================================</p>
<p>It is. The committee that decides on the use of ISA is :</p>
<p>- Chairman : Ahmad Ismail*<br />
- Secretary General : Ahmad Ismail*<br />
- Home Minister : Ahmad Ismail*<br />
- Defence Minister : Ahmad Ismail*<br />
- IGP : Ahmad Ismail*<br />
- General of Armed Forces : Ahmad Ismail*</p>
<p>* Optional choice : Khir Toyo or Syed Hamid Albar</p>
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		<title>By: lopez</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/with-seismic-events-afoot-who-do-you-believe/comment-page-1/#comment-137217</link>
		<dc:creator>lopez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 15:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since when do clowns are allowed to speak to the Pee M.

Loud mouths should be suspended from civil duties for good.

Rubbery lips should know that and go sharpen his carving tool and remain in his sand pit.

Great men do great things for mankind, small men talk big things for village folks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since when do clowns are allowed to speak to the Pee M.</p>
<p>Loud mouths should be suspended from civil duties for good.</p>
<p>Rubbery lips should know that and go sharpen his carving tool and remain in his sand pit.</p>
<p>Great men do great things for mankind, small men talk big things for village folks.</p>
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		<title>By: nkeng11</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/with-seismic-events-afoot-who-do-you-believe/comment-page-1/#comment-137215</link>
		<dc:creator>nkeng11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 15:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Malays realized that UMNO is a lost cause a long time ago. Its inertia is so great that it takes both PAS and PKR to shake it. Still it is on its on weight but the weight will be so strong that it will sink on dry land!

Racial politics in Malaysia is outdated and out of fashion. Assistance should be rendered to all Malaysians irrespective of race and color. The consequences of prolong assistance to just bumiputras is not apparent!

Workers are weak, proud, ignorant, lacking in skills from very narrow, shallow trained universites which only admits Malays primarily with a scatter of other races. In so doing, the standard of education and skill deteriorates and when they graduate they lack the right skills, aptitude and attitude.

As a result they cannot be promoted and improved upon. Most of them who initially worked in the private sector opted to work with the civil sector where the pressure is zero and pay rise assured.

All races should be allowed to compete freely to promote competitiveness and resulting in quality students, graduates and businessmen.

Malaysia now have to compete with the world. We cannot just sent 1 astronaut at costs of millions of ringgit at the expenses of better qualified ones. Let them go to study and earn their rightful places in the world of space exploration without having to pay and ride on a rocket like a passenger.

I am very sure NASA will offer the best candidates for its space programme free. In return the candidates repay back via research, role play etc...

Why can&#039;t our leaders think of these?

I think the demise of UMNO and its blame lies square on the shoulders of its past and present leaders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Malays realized that UMNO is a lost cause a long time ago. Its inertia is so great that it takes both PAS and PKR to shake it. Still it is on its on weight but the weight will be so strong that it will sink on dry land!</p>
<p>Racial politics in Malaysia is outdated and out of fashion. Assistance should be rendered to all Malaysians irrespective of race and color. The consequences of prolong assistance to just bumiputras is not apparent!</p>
<p>Workers are weak, proud, ignorant, lacking in skills from very narrow, shallow trained universites which only admits Malays primarily with a scatter of other races. In so doing, the standard of education and skill deteriorates and when they graduate they lack the right skills, aptitude and attitude.</p>
<p>As a result they cannot be promoted and improved upon. Most of them who initially worked in the private sector opted to work with the civil sector where the pressure is zero and pay rise assured.</p>
<p>All races should be allowed to compete freely to promote competitiveness and resulting in quality students, graduates and businessmen.</p>
<p>Malaysia now have to compete with the world. We cannot just sent 1 astronaut at costs of millions of ringgit at the expenses of better qualified ones. Let them go to study and earn their rightful places in the world of space exploration without having to pay and ride on a rocket like a passenger.</p>
<p>I am very sure NASA will offer the best candidates for its space programme free. In return the candidates repay back via research, role play etc&#8230;</p>
<p>Why can&#8217;t our leaders think of these?</p>
<p>I think the demise of UMNO and its blame lies square on the shoulders of its past and present leaders.</p>
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		<title>By: KennyGan</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/with-seismic-events-afoot-who-do-you-believe/comment-page-1/#comment-137213</link>
		<dc:creator>KennyGan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 15:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The assumption that Umno will strengthen with a new and presumably stronger leader is false. Unless the new PM is willing to carry out pro-Rakyat reforms, rein in corruption, plug wastage and resuscitate the economy by sound economic policies and prudent spending instead of treating the reins of power as a means to their pot of gold, support for Umno at the grassroots will continue to flounder no matter who is in charge.

Umno is also mistaken if it thinks it can govern alone without support from minority races. Cultivating Malay support using racist ideology like Ketuanan Melayu will alienate minority races further while gaining additional support among Malays is uncertain. Permatang Pauh has shown how risky this strategy is. 

The new PM when he takes office must boldly decry the notion of Ketuanan Melayu, pledge to treat all races fairly while respecting the special position of the Malays, stop wasteful projects, restore the independence of the judiciary and take real action to fight corruption without fear or favour. In other words, he must steal the agenda and manifesto of Pakatan Rakyat. Only then can the relationship with the component parties be repaired, the people&#039;s confidence restored and BN can go to the next election in a position of strength.

However there is no leader in Umno who can even remotely be expected to do this. None are strong leaders or reformers with the calibre of Anwar Ibrahim. Not Najib, Not Ku Li and not Muhyiddin. Hence, we can expect business as usual including the use of racial politics.

This means that whoever takes charge of Umno, the next elections will be a shoo-in for Pakatan Rakyat. BN&#039;s only hope to avoid being kicked out from the corridors of power is the break-up of PR. There is simply no other way to counter PR&#039;s march to power riding on the will of the people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The assumption that Umno will strengthen with a new and presumably stronger leader is false. Unless the new PM is willing to carry out pro-Rakyat reforms, rein in corruption, plug wastage and resuscitate the economy by sound economic policies and prudent spending instead of treating the reins of power as a means to their pot of gold, support for Umno at the grassroots will continue to flounder no matter who is in charge.</p>
<p>Umno is also mistaken if it thinks it can govern alone without support from minority races. Cultivating Malay support using racist ideology like Ketuanan Melayu will alienate minority races further while gaining additional support among Malays is uncertain. Permatang Pauh has shown how risky this strategy is. </p>
<p>The new PM when he takes office must boldly decry the notion of Ketuanan Melayu, pledge to treat all races fairly while respecting the special position of the Malays, stop wasteful projects, restore the independence of the judiciary and take real action to fight corruption without fear or favour. In other words, he must steal the agenda and manifesto of Pakatan Rakyat. Only then can the relationship with the component parties be repaired, the people&#8217;s confidence restored and BN can go to the next election in a position of strength.</p>
<p>However there is no leader in Umno who can even remotely be expected to do this. None are strong leaders or reformers with the calibre of Anwar Ibrahim. Not Najib, Not Ku Li and not Muhyiddin. Hence, we can expect business as usual including the use of racial politics.</p>
<p>This means that whoever takes charge of Umno, the next elections will be a shoo-in for Pakatan Rakyat. BN&#8217;s only hope to avoid being kicked out from the corridors of power is the break-up of PR. There is simply no other way to counter PR&#8217;s march to power riding on the will of the people.</p>
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		<title>By: gofortruth</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/with-seismic-events-afoot-who-do-you-believe/comment-page-1/#comment-137212</link>
		<dc:creator>gofortruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 15:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can PKR, PAS and DAP file police reports against Home Minister Syed Hamid, The police force, the Prime Minister or the BN government for gross negligence in invoking ISA on harmless citizens of Malaysia (Reporter Tan &amp; MP Teresa) causing dangerous racial tension &amp; frightening away foreign investors?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can PKR, PAS and DAP file police reports against Home Minister Syed Hamid, The police force, the Prime Minister or the BN government for gross negligence in invoking ISA on harmless citizens of Malaysia (Reporter Tan &amp; MP Teresa) causing dangerous racial tension &amp; frightening away foreign investors?</p>
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		<title>By: rider</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/with-seismic-events-afoot-who-do-you-believe/comment-page-1/#comment-137211</link>
		<dc:creator>rider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 15:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the problem with the PM is that he is still mesmerised by the overwhelming 2004 mandate he received, like Mr Smith said, only when he does not get 58 nominations will he wake up, pity the poor guy, he does not realise that he is neck deep. Let&#039;s pray for him, after all he is like any one of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the problem with the PM is that he is still mesmerised by the overwhelming 2004 mandate he received, like Mr Smith said, only when he does not get 58 nominations will he wake up, pity the poor guy, he does not realise that he is neck deep. Let&#8217;s pray for him, after all he is like any one of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Loh</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/with-seismic-events-afoot-who-do-you-believe/comment-page-1/#comment-137210</link>
		<dc:creator>Loh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 14:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>///...usher in the next 13th general election which will at least grant the PM (i) opportunity to field his own loyalists and...///---Jeffrey

No chance. The chairman of the presidential council, TDM that is will be the person directing the election. Yes AAB could still be the caretaker PM, like Tunku was still PM from May 1969 to sometime in 1970.

The only game he can have is to resign the position of PM, and hand it over to Anwar. If AAB still wishes to be in politics, he should join Gerakan, like the disappointed MCA members in the past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>///&#8230;usher in the next 13th general election which will at least grant the PM (i) opportunity to field his own loyalists and&#8230;///&#8212;Jeffrey</p>
<p>No chance. The chairman of the presidential council, TDM that is will be the person directing the election. Yes AAB could still be the caretaker PM, like Tunku was still PM from May 1969 to sometime in 1970.</p>
<p>The only game he can have is to resign the position of PM, and hand it over to Anwar. If AAB still wishes to be in politics, he should join Gerakan, like the disappointed MCA members in the past.</p>
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