<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Abolish ISA&#8221; forum in KL Tuesday</title>
	<atom:link href="http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/abolish-isa-forum-in-kl-tuesday/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/abolish-isa-forum-in-kl-tuesday/</link>
	<description>for Malaysia</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 03:00:10 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: swee_ann_tweety</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/abolish-isa-forum-in-kl-tuesday/comment-page-3/#comment-137871</link>
		<dc:creator>swee_ann_tweety</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 01:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/abolish-isa-forum-in-kl-tuesday/#comment-137871</guid>
		<description>Did Raja Petra really write the articles on Malaysia Today?  I found this rather shocking: -

To all Malaysians:

Raja Petra DID NOT write the articles in Malaysia Today. I hereby statutorily declare that I am the author of “MalaysiaToday” in all your websites” All the articles were written by me aka DatukGoh.com.

Sorry to break your bubbles!!!

All roads lead to BodohLand.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did Raja Petra really write the articles on Malaysia Today?  I found this rather shocking: -</p>
<p>To all Malaysians:</p>
<p>Raja Petra DID NOT write the articles in Malaysia Today. I hereby statutorily declare that I am the author of “MalaysiaToday” in all your websites” All the articles were written by me aka DatukGoh.com.</p>
<p>Sorry to break your bubbles!!!</p>
<p>All roads lead to BodohLand.com</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: boh-liao</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/abolish-isa-forum-in-kl-tuesday/comment-page-3/#comment-137870</link>
		<dc:creator>boh-liao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 01:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/abolish-isa-forum-in-kl-tuesday/#comment-137870</guid>
		<description>&quot;I am not surprised if oxygen we breath in Malaysia is chargeable, UMNO cronies will propose to the government that we should pay for it.&quot;

No, no, no, you got it wrong there. Soon fresh air and oxygen will be deemed rare commodities. And Umnoputras like Ahmad Ismail will demand that he and his likes will be given the first priority to breathe in fresh air and oxygen. Pendatang and descendants of pendatang will have to wait for their turn to breathe in fresh air and oxygen. Remember THE contract?

Any noise from pendatang and descendants of pendatang will obviously lead to ISA - locked up for the sake of their personal safety ala Syed Hamid Jaafar&#039;s grand theory of ISA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I am not surprised if oxygen we breath in Malaysia is chargeable, UMNO cronies will propose to the government that we should pay for it.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, no, no, you got it wrong there. Soon fresh air and oxygen will be deemed rare commodities. And Umnoputras like Ahmad Ismail will demand that he and his likes will be given the first priority to breathe in fresh air and oxygen. Pendatang and descendants of pendatang will have to wait for their turn to breathe in fresh air and oxygen. Remember THE contract?</p>
<p>Any noise from pendatang and descendants of pendatang will obviously lead to ISA &#8211; locked up for the sake of their personal safety ala Syed Hamid Jaafar&#8217;s grand theory of ISA.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: melurian</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/abolish-isa-forum-in-kl-tuesday/comment-page-3/#comment-137869</link>
		<dc:creator>melurian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 01:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/abolish-isa-forum-in-kl-tuesday/#comment-137869</guid>
		<description>&quot;I too glad that she is living a thrifty life. 

Nurul is sure a potential future Prime Minister of Malaysia!&quot;

what kind of statement is this ? so, someone with thrifty life sure to fit becoming PM ?!

===

&quot;Today the situation has CHANGED, the people are more aware of the damage done to economy and society should the nation falls into instability. Everyone loses.&quot;

nazri was right - that&#039;s why many ppl vote for bn for isa, for stability......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I too glad that she is living a thrifty life. </p>
<p>Nurul is sure a potential future Prime Minister of Malaysia!&#8221;</p>
<p>what kind of statement is this ? so, someone with thrifty life sure to fit becoming PM ?!</p>
<p>===</p>
<p>&#8220;Today the situation has CHANGED, the people are more aware of the damage done to economy and society should the nation falls into instability. Everyone loses.&#8221;</p>
<p>nazri was right &#8211; that&#8217;s why many ppl vote for bn for isa, for stability&#8230;&#8230;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Toyol</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/abolish-isa-forum-in-kl-tuesday/comment-page-3/#comment-137864</link>
		<dc:creator>Toyol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 01:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/abolish-isa-forum-in-kl-tuesday/#comment-137864</guid>
		<description>RM4.50 for a day&#039;s meal while under detention! I am sure the budget was a lot more. Wonder what happened to the difference?!!! Even in prison, they rob the helpless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RM4.50 for a day&#8217;s meal while under detention! I am sure the budget was a lot more. Wonder what happened to the difference?!!! Even in prison, they rob the helpless.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: limkamput</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/abolish-isa-forum-in-kl-tuesday/comment-page-3/#comment-137861</link>
		<dc:creator>limkamput</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 00:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/abolish-isa-forum-in-kl-tuesday/#comment-137861</guid>
		<description>owah, the figures are a bit off lah.  Seriously, PR must get down to doing some work.  I guess it is easier for them to keep on talking rather than doing and this includes Penang, Mr. Lim Guan Eng.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>owah, the figures are a bit off lah.  Seriously, PR must get down to doing some work.  I guess it is easier for them to keep on talking rather than doing and this includes Penang, Mr. Lim Guan Eng.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: taiking</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/abolish-isa-forum-in-kl-tuesday/comment-page-3/#comment-137859</link>
		<dc:creator>taiking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 00:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/abolish-isa-forum-in-kl-tuesday/#comment-137859</guid>
		<description>The are several negative aspects about the ISA.

(1) Scope:

It is too broad and hence can easily be abused. It should be confined to its original purpose which is specific i.e. anti-communist. But now that communist is no longer a threat, the relevant provisions of the Act can be amended (or more like updated) to deal with terrorists threats.

(2) Review:

The minister&#039;s decision to order a detention under the Act cannot be questioned. The Act said so. This feature together with the width of its scope make the Act an attractive one for abuse. The minister&#039;s decision must be opened to review by the court. Nobody can act outside the law for such acts would be unlawful. Neither could a minister. Judges are the final arbiter on legality of acts done by everyone and this should properly include acts by ministers. Having the courts to oversee the use of the power under the Act has the other advantage of ensuring consistency and this would lend credibility to the use of the Act.

(3) Without charge:

A person can be detained for 2 yrs without charge (which may be extended ad infinitum). Now this is draconian. A person is detained for only one reason. Because he has committed some wrong. No laws would punish an innocent person. Only mistaken application of the laws in some unfortunate and inadvertant situations would. So if a person has committed an offence, charge him in court, present the evidence of wrongdoing so that the court could convict him and sentence him to imprisonment where appropriate.

Zak, do the government of your country arrest their political opponents and detain them without charge for 2 yrs? Do they have such power? Its a useful thing to have. I suggest you should start a pressure group in your country to moot a similar Act.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The are several negative aspects about the ISA.</p>
<p>(1) Scope:</p>
<p>It is too broad and hence can easily be abused. It should be confined to its original purpose which is specific i.e. anti-communist. But now that communist is no longer a threat, the relevant provisions of the Act can be amended (or more like updated) to deal with terrorists threats.</p>
<p>(2) Review:</p>
<p>The minister&#8217;s decision to order a detention under the Act cannot be questioned. The Act said so. This feature together with the width of its scope make the Act an attractive one for abuse. The minister&#8217;s decision must be opened to review by the court. Nobody can act outside the law for such acts would be unlawful. Neither could a minister. Judges are the final arbiter on legality of acts done by everyone and this should properly include acts by ministers. Having the courts to oversee the use of the power under the Act has the other advantage of ensuring consistency and this would lend credibility to the use of the Act.</p>
<p>(3) Without charge:</p>
<p>A person can be detained for 2 yrs without charge (which may be extended ad infinitum). Now this is draconian. A person is detained for only one reason. Because he has committed some wrong. No laws would punish an innocent person. Only mistaken application of the laws in some unfortunate and inadvertant situations would. So if a person has committed an offence, charge him in court, present the evidence of wrongdoing so that the court could convict him and sentence him to imprisonment where appropriate.</p>
<p>Zak, do the government of your country arrest their political opponents and detain them without charge for 2 yrs? Do they have such power? Its a useful thing to have. I suggest you should start a pressure group in your country to moot a similar Act.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/abolish-isa-forum-in-kl-tuesday/comment-page-3/#comment-137845</link>
		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 23:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/abolish-isa-forum-in-kl-tuesday/#comment-137845</guid>
		<description>My girlfriend told me she has the numbers! They are 34 -18-36.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My girlfriend told me she has the numbers! They are 34 -18-36.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: bumi-non-malay</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/abolish-isa-forum-in-kl-tuesday/comment-page-3/#comment-137840</link>
		<dc:creator>bumi-non-malay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 22:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/abolish-isa-forum-in-kl-tuesday/#comment-137840</guid>
		<description>Malaysia don&#039;t understand that the current UMNO-BN is still trying to provoke the people so as to declare emergency Rule.  Why did you think Pak Lah took the Defence Portfolio.  Its to checkmate and be in the loop of any move by anybody.

Remember UMNO-BN wants to stay in power whatever it takes and Barisan Rakyat wants a smooth transition.......(dream on Barisan Rakyat).  You need skills, tricks and lies to get rid of UMNO-BN

Rakyat can show support rather than to attend these talk Fest by buying some YELLOW or BLACK Cloth, cut in Strips and tie a pebble with rubberband and LAUNCH it ALL ove KAMUNTING PERAK.....Do it ALL Over Malaysia.....send a Clear Message to UMNO BN the more that is LAUNCHED the more UMNO-BN knows how many supporters AGAINST ISA and detainees there are.

This is BETTER than Petition, protest, demo, talk fest......all tactics of Mat Kilau Passive Pressure.  Do it and DO IT SOON!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Malaysia don&#8217;t understand that the current UMNO-BN is still trying to provoke the people so as to declare emergency Rule.  Why did you think Pak Lah took the Defence Portfolio.  Its to checkmate and be in the loop of any move by anybody.</p>
<p>Remember UMNO-BN wants to stay in power whatever it takes and Barisan Rakyat wants a smooth transition&#8230;&#8230;.(dream on Barisan Rakyat).  You need skills, tricks and lies to get rid of UMNO-BN</p>
<p>Rakyat can show support rather than to attend these talk Fest by buying some YELLOW or BLACK Cloth, cut in Strips and tie a pebble with rubberband and LAUNCH it ALL ove KAMUNTING PERAK&#8230;..Do it ALL Over Malaysia&#8230;..send a Clear Message to UMNO BN the more that is LAUNCHED the more UMNO-BN knows how many supporters AGAINST ISA and detainees there are.</p>
<p>This is BETTER than Petition, protest, demo, talk fest&#8230;&#8230;all tactics of Mat Kilau Passive Pressure.  Do it and DO IT SOON!!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jong</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/abolish-isa-forum-in-kl-tuesday/comment-page-3/#comment-137826</link>
		<dc:creator>Jong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/abolish-isa-forum-in-kl-tuesday/#comment-137826</guid>
		<description>&quot;May I know what cock is Tian Chua talking today? It is precisely statement like his that erode the credibility of PR&quot;  -  limkamput

hehehe!  I thought no one noticed except me. Yeah, kept repeating they have the  &#039;numbers&#039;  -  don&#039;t we all know that already? He should realise he&#039;s not a celebrity; just shut up and disappear if he has nothing new and positive to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;May I know what cock is Tian Chua talking today? It is precisely statement like his that erode the credibility of PR&#8221;  &#8211;  limkamput</p>
<p>hehehe!  I thought no one noticed except me. Yeah, kept repeating they have the  &#8216;numbers&#8217;  &#8211;  don&#8217;t we all know that already? He should realise he&#8217;s not a celebrity; just shut up and disappear if he has nothing new and positive to say.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: human1</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/abolish-isa-forum-in-kl-tuesday/comment-page-3/#comment-137825</link>
		<dc:creator>human1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/abolish-isa-forum-in-kl-tuesday/#comment-137825</guid>
		<description>You are not allowed to criticize the government and the political leaders in power. If your voice is loud enough and it does not sound pleasant to the authority, you are considered a threat to public order and national security with your insanity.

You will be deemed insane and sent to the mental hospital. After being interrogated several rounds, you will be detained in the hospital for up to two years, where detention order is renewable upon expiry. Once in every three or six months, sanity check will be conducted. If your behaviour have not changed, the authority will intensify attempts to break you until you start saying how good the government is. Nobody is able to rescue you from the powerful regime. The words from the institution are final, for detaining insane people like you. 

This shows how powerful the ISA is, the power to detain without trial. Ironically, the authority has been using the 1969 race riots incident to substantiate the need for ISA, to curb e.g. racial tensions but maintain peace and harmony in the country. Before the incident, the people did not see clearly the danger of the mounting racial sentiments, coming into their way. The damage done was substantially felt by the people for decades. Today the situation has CHANGED, the people are more aware of the damage done to economy and society should the nation falls into instability. Everyone loses.

In RPK case, there is no evidence of uneasiness in society. There has been no massive rally to protest what RPK had posted in his blog. The words coming from government are, he is a threat. 

The recent three arrests have raised questions. There are two main categories in the recent controversy, each has the supporters among the people.

Category A (opposition voice, reporter)
----------
PRK
Teresa Kok
Sin Chew reporter

Category B (pro government)
----------
Ahmad Ismail
Zaini Hassan
Mohammad Khir Toyo

Show Cause issued
------------------
Sin Chew daily 
Suara Keadilan 
The Sun

No Show Cause
--------------
Utusan Malaysia
   

Category A consists of ISA current detainee and ex-detainees that had been released. Surely there will be questions among the people, the basis in using the act to shortlist the candidates. The consequence of ISA detention has created even larger division among the people.

How do we ensure its execution is bias free? When applying this act, the voice from authority is final. You don&#039;t even have the chance to clear your name, deemed a threat to national security.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are not allowed to criticize the government and the political leaders in power. If your voice is loud enough and it does not sound pleasant to the authority, you are considered a threat to public order and national security with your insanity.</p>
<p>You will be deemed insane and sent to the mental hospital. After being interrogated several rounds, you will be detained in the hospital for up to two years, where detention order is renewable upon expiry. Once in every three or six months, sanity check will be conducted. If your behaviour have not changed, the authority will intensify attempts to break you until you start saying how good the government is. Nobody is able to rescue you from the powerful regime. The words from the institution are final, for detaining insane people like you. </p>
<p>This shows how powerful the ISA is, the power to detain without trial. Ironically, the authority has been using the 1969 race riots incident to substantiate the need for ISA, to curb e.g. racial tensions but maintain peace and harmony in the country. Before the incident, the people did not see clearly the danger of the mounting racial sentiments, coming into their way. The damage done was substantially felt by the people for decades. Today the situation has CHANGED, the people are more aware of the damage done to economy and society should the nation falls into instability. Everyone loses.</p>
<p>In RPK case, there is no evidence of uneasiness in society. There has been no massive rally to protest what RPK had posted in his blog. The words coming from government are, he is a threat. </p>
<p>The recent three arrests have raised questions. There are two main categories in the recent controversy, each has the supporters among the people.</p>
<p>Category A (opposition voice, reporter)<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
PRK<br />
Teresa Kok<br />
Sin Chew reporter</p>
<p>Category B (pro government)<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
Ahmad Ismail<br />
Zaini Hassan<br />
Mohammad Khir Toyo</p>
<p>Show Cause issued<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
Sin Chew daily<br />
Suara Keadilan<br />
The Sun</p>
<p>No Show Cause<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
Utusan Malaysia</p>
<p>Category A consists of ISA current detainee and ex-detainees that had been released. Surely there will be questions among the people, the basis in using the act to shortlist the candidates. The consequence of ISA detention has created even larger division among the people.</p>
<p>How do we ensure its execution is bias free? When applying this act, the voice from authority is final. You don&#8217;t even have the chance to clear your name, deemed a threat to national security.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: AsalUsuLMalaysia</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/abolish-isa-forum-in-kl-tuesday/comment-page-3/#comment-137824</link>
		<dc:creator>AsalUsuLMalaysia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/abolish-isa-forum-in-kl-tuesday/#comment-137824</guid>
		<description>you know what?... 
In Malacca you get charge roadside parking 7days a week included public holidays, even agong birhtday(if theres any).
 
Many tourist who visited Malacca was summoned for parking roadside without knowing parking coupon needed to present cuz they demolished the parking meter long ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you know what?&#8230;<br />
In Malacca you get charge roadside parking 7days a week included public holidays, even agong birhtday(if theres any).</p>
<p>Many tourist who visited Malacca was summoned for parking roadside without knowing parking coupon needed to present cuz they demolished the parking meter long ago.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: lhslhv</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/abolish-isa-forum-in-kl-tuesday/comment-page-3/#comment-137823</link>
		<dc:creator>lhslhv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/abolish-isa-forum-in-kl-tuesday/#comment-137823</guid>
		<description>ISA is just one of the tools to serve Malaysia. By itself it is not cruel or good. If it is used effectively it can serve its purpose. Of course I do not support this wide-sweeping draconian law. Other laws should be used in its place.

However the people who has the authority to use it determines whether it is cruel or good. When it falls into the hand of the cruel it becomes cruel. If if falls intot he hands of the good it becomes good.

It is just like fire, it can be a useful force or a destructive force depending on how it manifests itself.

Unfortunately Malaysia is a country where the &quot;rakyat&quot; serves the government and not vice versa. Furthermore Malaysia has too many of these people with self-vested interest. Abuse will be inevitable.

As an individual we cannot fight ISA, but we can make a diifference by putting a government that looks after the interest of the poeple. A government that serves the &quot;rakyat&quot; will never use ISA on its people!

Vote for PR in the 13GE if UMNO is still around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ISA is just one of the tools to serve Malaysia. By itself it is not cruel or good. If it is used effectively it can serve its purpose. Of course I do not support this wide-sweeping draconian law. Other laws should be used in its place.</p>
<p>However the people who has the authority to use it determines whether it is cruel or good. When it falls into the hand of the cruel it becomes cruel. If if falls intot he hands of the good it becomes good.</p>
<p>It is just like fire, it can be a useful force or a destructive force depending on how it manifests itself.</p>
<p>Unfortunately Malaysia is a country where the &#8220;rakyat&#8221; serves the government and not vice versa. Furthermore Malaysia has too many of these people with self-vested interest. Abuse will be inevitable.</p>
<p>As an individual we cannot fight ISA, but we can make a diifference by putting a government that looks after the interest of the poeple. A government that serves the &#8220;rakyat&#8221; will never use ISA on its people!</p>
<p>Vote for PR in the 13GE if UMNO is still around.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: mendela</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/abolish-isa-forum-in-kl-tuesday/comment-page-3/#comment-137820</link>
		<dc:creator>mendela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/abolish-isa-forum-in-kl-tuesday/#comment-137820</guid>
		<description>I attended the fully packed forum at Chinese Assembly Hall the whole evening. I think at least 3 thousands people attended the forum.
All speakers were brilliant.

Just a small note, the charming Nurul Izzah brought along a laptop with her. She placed the laptop on the table. That laptop was bulky and looked slightly outdated. I am impressed. I am impressed not only at her wonderful oratorical skills, I too glad that she is living a thrifty life.  

Nurul is sure a potential future Prime Minister of Malaysia!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I attended the fully packed forum at Chinese Assembly Hall the whole evening. I think at least 3 thousands people attended the forum.<br />
All speakers were brilliant.</p>
<p>Just a small note, the charming Nurul Izzah brought along a laptop with her. She placed the laptop on the table. That laptop was bulky and looked slightly outdated. I am impressed. I am impressed not only at her wonderful oratorical skills, I too glad that she is living a thrifty life.  </p>
<p>Nurul is sure a potential future Prime Minister of Malaysia!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Blue.kinetic</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/abolish-isa-forum-in-kl-tuesday/comment-page-3/#comment-137819</link>
		<dc:creator>Blue.kinetic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/abolish-isa-forum-in-kl-tuesday/#comment-137819</guid>
		<description>Those support ISA will paint it beautifully, but what on earth we need ISA when there is judiciary system around. How you feel when you are &quot;punish&quot; without knowing your fault and you are detained merely based on certain human&#039;s judge. Every human has his own interpretion and he must be correct? Let&#039;s the judiciary and judges done their job professionally  and do not interfere them. Obviously, ISA is for political own interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those support ISA will paint it beautifully, but what on earth we need ISA when there is judiciary system around. How you feel when you are &#8220;punish&#8221; without knowing your fault and you are detained merely based on certain human&#8217;s judge. Every human has his own interpretion and he must be correct? Let&#8217;s the judiciary and judges done their job professionally  and do not interfere them. Obviously, ISA is for political own interest.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: lhslhv</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/abolish-isa-forum-in-kl-tuesday/comment-page-3/#comment-137818</link>
		<dc:creator>lhslhv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/abolish-isa-forum-in-kl-tuesday/#comment-137818</guid>
		<description>If the enlightened Malaysian is so gullible on only 20 cubic meters of treated water, then we are no difference from the UMNO supporters.

This is the journey of a 1000 miles. The little step is the decisive factor.

PR is still a better bet then the know evil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the enlightened Malaysian is so gullible on only 20 cubic meters of treated water, then we are no difference from the UMNO supporters.</p>
<p>This is the journey of a 1000 miles. The little step is the decisive factor.</p>
<p>PR is still a better bet then the know evil</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: wtf2</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/abolish-isa-forum-in-kl-tuesday/comment-page-3/#comment-137816</link>
		<dc:creator>wtf2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/abolish-isa-forum-in-kl-tuesday/#comment-137816</guid>
		<description>The imbecile egghead just want to put RPK away so that all the shit that&#039;s hitting the umno fan will blow away without proof such as the Mongolian case - who else dares to say anything apart from rpk....PKR should and must do all it can to free the innocents</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The imbecile egghead just want to put RPK away so that all the shit that&#8217;s hitting the umno fan will blow away without proof such as the Mongolian case &#8211; who else dares to say anything apart from rpk&#8230;.PKR should and must do all it can to free the innocents</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: zak_hammaad</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/abolish-isa-forum-in-kl-tuesday/comment-page-3/#comment-137813</link>
		<dc:creator>zak_hammaad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/abolish-isa-forum-in-kl-tuesday/#comment-137813</guid>
		<description>lchk Says:

&gt;&gt; Lame-ass attempt at trying to justify the ISA.

I am not here to &#039;justify&#039; ISA (especially to you!), it&#039;s existence and use over the decades is a testimony to it&#039;s justification. Those who want to abolish it and itself is proof enough for it&#039;s need. Only fools would want an extreme last resort tool like ISA replaced with time-consuming and bureaucratic court cases and trials, when the threat may have already engulfed the nation!

When it comes to security, no nation gives an inch and I challenge you to provide an example. Debating the pros and cons of ISA is not a bad thing, Washington continues to debate Guantanamo detainees, most of whom do not even know the crimes they have supposedly committed and can not have a court trial due to their &#039;status&#039; as defined by Washington. ISA is a walk in the park compared with grossly prejudicial and blatant abuse of power of security acts by other nations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lchk Says:</p>
<p>&gt;&gt; Lame-ass attempt at trying to justify the ISA.</p>
<p>I am not here to &#8216;justify&#8217; ISA (especially to you!), it&#8217;s existence and use over the decades is a testimony to it&#8217;s justification. Those who want to abolish it and itself is proof enough for it&#8217;s need. Only fools would want an extreme last resort tool like ISA replaced with time-consuming and bureaucratic court cases and trials, when the threat may have already engulfed the nation!</p>
<p>When it comes to security, no nation gives an inch and I challenge you to provide an example. Debating the pros and cons of ISA is not a bad thing, Washington continues to debate Guantanamo detainees, most of whom do not even know the crimes they have supposedly committed and can not have a court trial due to their &#8216;status&#8217; as defined by Washington. ISA is a walk in the park compared with grossly prejudicial and blatant abuse of power of security acts by other nations.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: melurian</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/abolish-isa-forum-in-kl-tuesday/comment-page-3/#comment-137812</link>
		<dc:creator>melurian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/abolish-isa-forum-in-kl-tuesday/#comment-137812</guid>
		<description>&quot;That was why Dr Sun Yet Sen overthrew the Ching dynasty of
China.&quot;

sun yat sen din overthrow machurian lar (he did attempt but all failed then when exile in hawaii and pinang), he just came in elected as president (many ppl saw him fit) after uprising that bring the 300yrs old dynasty collapse. just like manchu din overthrow ming, is cina themselves overthrew ming and fight for the loot before routed by foreigner manchu......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That was why Dr Sun Yet Sen overthrew the Ching dynasty of<br />
China.&#8221;</p>
<p>sun yat sen din overthrow machurian lar (he did attempt but all failed then when exile in hawaii and pinang), he just came in elected as president (many ppl saw him fit) after uprising that bring the 300yrs old dynasty collapse. just like manchu din overthrow ming, is cina themselves overthrew ming and fight for the loot before routed by foreigner manchu&#8230;&#8230;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: melurian</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/abolish-isa-forum-in-kl-tuesday/comment-page-3/#comment-137810</link>
		<dc:creator>melurian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/abolish-isa-forum-in-kl-tuesday/#comment-137810</guid>
		<description>&quot;Where did Melurian learnt about the Christian episode during the Han dynasty?&quot;

go read about forgotten history on &quot;taiping (not the perak one) revolution&quot;. learn how the leader who failed gov examination claimed received from msg from his brother jesus to eradicate all manchu and set up christian country! and learn how they enforced strict code of conduct from different gender!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Where did Melurian learnt about the Christian episode during the Han dynasty?&#8221;</p>
<p>go read about forgotten history on &#8220;taiping (not the perak one) revolution&#8221;. learn how the leader who failed gov examination claimed received from msg from his brother jesus to eradicate all manchu and set up christian country! and learn how they enforced strict code of conduct from different gender!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: pangwl88</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/abolish-isa-forum-in-kl-tuesday/comment-page-3/#comment-137809</link>
		<dc:creator>pangwl88</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/21/abolish-isa-forum-in-kl-tuesday/#comment-137809</guid>
		<description>THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO UNLESS WE TOPPLE AND CHANGE THE CURRENT GOVERNMENT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO UNLESS WE TOPPLE AND CHANGE THE CURRENT GOVERNMENT.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

