Comments on: Abdullah - release Teresa, RPK, Tan and withdraw from precipice of new Malaysian dark age http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/13/abdullah-release-teresa-rpk-tan-and-withdraw-from-precipice-of-new-malaysian-dark-age/ for Malaysia Fri, 09 Jan 2009 04:54:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: shamshul anuar http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/13/abdullah-release-teresa-rpk-tan-and-withdraw-from-precipice-of-new-malaysian-dark-age/comment-page-5/#comment-135702 shamshul anuar Wed, 17 Sep 2008 09:27:12 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/13/abdullah-release-teresa-rpk-tan-and-withdraw-from-precipice-of-new-malaysian-dark-age/#comment-135702 DEar Mincefortoiletpaper, What a name. Anyway, I beg to differ. Yes, there is racial tension in this country. But not by UMNO. Malays are upset( And I assume you are not aware) when Teresa Kok starts messing with "papan tanda with Arabic words" on them. Yes Sir. People in Malay community is asking if she can violates National language, what is stopping the Malays from questioning rights accorded to non Malays during Independence. I told my Chinese friends on this matter. They are dumbfounded. And the next reaction is very predictable. We do not know this. Yes sir, because none of you bothered to read Malay newspapers. Malays are asking if Bar Council is so ready to hold a forum on 'Social Contract" and created a blunder by having only one Malay panelist whom no malay regards as qualified to speak for them( FaRISH nOOR), what is stopping Malays from reacting; that is questioning citizenships of Chinese community. Constitution is sort of bargaining deal. our constitution recognises the rights of non malays( by giving them citizenship). And it also recognises that prior to the coming of Chiniese and Indians to to then Malay states, this land is exclusively owned by Malays. A compromise ( a wonderful reflection of ever obliging race that is Malay) was reached. In return of citizenship, some historical facts are accorded recognition. One of them is Malay Language. It is accorded as National Language. So when Teresa Kok starts messing up with "papan tanda( what else if not for stirring racial sentiment) , Malays are upset. They take is as not violating the constitution. Hence, question on citizenship. And it gets unpleasant. As any govt worths its salt has to react, Teresa Kok was detained. And if Uncle Lim or Bar Council wish to question some parts from Constitution such as the position of Islam ( had alreadybeen done by Bar Council) , please accept reality that Malays have no qualm on questioning your citizenship. And where it will lead Malaysia? DEar Mincefortoiletpaper,

What a name. Anyway, I beg to differ. Yes, there is racial tension in this country. But not by UMNO. Malays are upset( And I assume you are not aware) when Teresa Kok starts messing with “papan tanda with Arabic words” on them.

Yes Sir. People in Malay community is asking if she can violates National language, what is stopping the Malays from questioning rights accorded to non Malays during Independence.

I told my Chinese friends on this matter. They are dumbfounded. And the next reaction is very predictable. We do not know this. Yes sir, because none of you bothered to read Malay newspapers.

Malays are asking if Bar Council is so ready to hold a forum on ‘Social Contract” and created a blunder by having only one Malay panelist whom no malay regards as qualified to speak for them( FaRISH nOOR), what is stopping Malays from reacting; that is questioning citizenships of Chinese community.

Constitution is sort of bargaining deal. our constitution recognises the rights of non malays( by giving them citizenship). And it also recognises that prior to the coming of Chiniese and Indians to to then Malay states, this land is exclusively owned by Malays.

A compromise ( a wonderful reflection of ever obliging race that is Malay) was reached. In return of citizenship, some historical facts are accorded recognition. One of them is Malay Language. It is accorded as National Language.

So when Teresa Kok starts messing up with “papan tanda( what else if not for stirring racial sentiment) , Malays are upset. They take is as not violating the constitution. Hence, question on citizenship.

And it gets unpleasant. As any govt worths its salt has to react, Teresa Kok was detained.

And if Uncle Lim or Bar Council wish to question some parts from Constitution such as the position of Islam ( had alreadybeen done by Bar Council) , please accept reality that Malays have no qualm on questioning your citizenship.

And where it will lead Malaysia?

]]> By: kerishamuddinitis http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/13/abdullah-release-teresa-rpk-tan-and-withdraw-from-precipice-of-new-malaysian-dark-age/comment-page-5/#comment-134598 kerishamuddinitis Sun, 14 Sep 2008 14:41:05 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/13/abdullah-release-teresa-rpk-tan-and-withdraw-from-precipice-of-new-malaysian-dark-age/#comment-134598 ah mincetoiletpaper, and what do you make of Nik Aziz, Hadi Awang, Dr Hatta, DSAI speaking up to reject ISA. what do you make of Zaid breaking ranks with his party to reject such use of ISA? Are they all part of this evil Chinese vs Malay trap of racist strife that UMNO hopes will ignite spontaneously? It may have been as you suggested had the Chinese risen in protest, taken to the streets and challenged Malays on the same racist terms as UMNO did against the Chinese. But the Chinese did nothing like that, did we? did you? we challenged the issue - we simply rejected the statement that despite being 3rd, 4th and even 5th generation born-in-Malaysia Malaysians, we were labelled 'immigrants & squatters' here only at the pleasure of the Malays. We did NOT sling racial slurs, we did not address the issue by making equally stupid tit-for-tat statements. And our Malay BRETHREN, of the same red blood and white flesh under the skin as ours, simply rejected the nonsense Ahmad Immigrant spewed. They did not pay heed to the 'immigrants at our pleasure,' did they? So, Malaysians have come a long way. We now reject racist politics. If Malays can speak up against the stupidity of using ISA against RPK and Teresa, why shouldn't the MCA and GERAKAN? Why shouldn't MIC? If Zaid can break ranks and be ready to quit the Crapbinet, why is MCA quiet on Teresa Kok. They are making a lot of noise on Tan because there's no political debit by doing that. MCA is a load of bull! It's best that you do not contribute to such racist sentiments as well. We all have Malay and Indian friends we would readily help even if we had to put ourselves in harm's way. So, cut the crap on race. ah mincetoiletpaper, and what do you make of Nik Aziz, Hadi Awang, Dr Hatta, DSAI speaking up to reject ISA. what do you make of Zaid breaking ranks with his party to reject such use of ISA? Are they all part of this evil Chinese vs Malay trap of racist strife that UMNO hopes will ignite spontaneously? It may have been as you suggested had the Chinese risen in protest, taken to the streets and challenged Malays on the same racist terms as UMNO did against the Chinese. But the Chinese did nothing like that, did we? did you? we challenged the issue - we simply rejected the statement that despite being 3rd, 4th and even 5th generation born-in-Malaysia Malaysians, we were labelled ‘immigrants & squatters’ here only at the pleasure of the Malays. We did NOT sling racial slurs, we did not address the issue by making equally stupid tit-for-tat statements. And our Malay BRETHREN, of the same red blood and white flesh under the skin as ours, simply rejected the nonsense Ahmad Immigrant spewed. They did not pay heed to the ‘immigrants at our pleasure,’ did they?

So, Malaysians have come a long way. We now reject racist politics. If Malays can speak up against the stupidity of using ISA against RPK and Teresa, why shouldn’t the MCA and GERAKAN? Why shouldn’t MIC? If Zaid can break ranks and be ready to quit the Crapbinet, why is MCA quiet on Teresa Kok. They are making a lot of noise on Tan because there’s no political debit by doing that.

MCA is a load of bull!

It’s best that you do not contribute to such racist sentiments as well. We all have Malay and Indian friends we would readily help even if we had to put ourselves in harm’s way. So, cut the crap on race.

]]> By: mincetoiletpaper http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/13/abdullah-release-teresa-rpk-tan-and-withdraw-from-precipice-of-new-malaysian-dark-age/comment-page-5/#comment-134569 mincetoiletpaper Sun, 14 Sep 2008 13:25:03 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/13/abdullah-release-teresa-rpk-tan-and-withdraw-from-precipice-of-new-malaysian-dark-age/#comment-134569 kerishamuddinitis, You are wrong. MCA and Gerakan should not openly side us now as its was a dirty trap set for UMNO to retaliate that the Chineses has group up and make a racial riot. Then they would have the upper hand to impose the curfew at the same time on the pre-text of killing spree is rightful as to protect the 'Malay' interest. kerishamuddinitis,

You are wrong. MCA and Gerakan should not openly side us now as its was a dirty trap set for UMNO to retaliate that the Chineses has group up and make a racial riot. Then they would have the upper hand to impose the curfew at the same time on the pre-text of killing spree is rightful as to protect the ‘Malay’ interest.

]]> By: kerishamuddinitis http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/13/abdullah-release-teresa-rpk-tan-and-withdraw-from-precipice-of-new-malaysian-dark-age/comment-page-5/#comment-134483 kerishamuddinitis Sun, 14 Sep 2008 11:15:42 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/13/abdullah-release-teresa-rpk-tan-and-withdraw-from-precipice-of-new-malaysian-dark-age/#comment-134483 Let us not forget in all of this that our Malay brethren came out to speak the truth and say to the government, BN and UMNO rabble-rousers that no, Teresa did NOT make an issue of the azan call to the faithful at either of the 2 mosques. These are our Malay brethren who stand with us on the side of truth, justice and honesty. Where are you MCA? Where are you GERAKAN on this matter? No, not because you are Chinese but because you MUST stand for truth, justice and honesty. You are proving yourselves to once again be the running dogs that you are truly are. Will you allow politics and political obedience to shackle you from doing the right thing? Stand together with the rest of Malaysians and DEMAND that Teresa Kok is freed because the charges are pure lies, trumped-up lies by a desperate party on the verge of implosion! In this instance, our Malay brethren have come forward to protect the interests, dignity and person of a CHINESE WOMAN FALSELY accused of insulting race and religion of the Malays. THIS IS THE MALAYSIA WE WANT. And there's NO PLACE for the likes of you racist scum, MCA & GERAKAN, in the NEW MALAYSIA! Let us not forget in all of this that our Malay brethren came out to speak the truth and say to the government, BN and UMNO rabble-rousers that no, Teresa did NOT make an issue of the azan call to the faithful at either of the 2 mosques.

These are our Malay brethren who stand with us on the side of truth, justice and honesty.

Where are you MCA? Where are you GERAKAN on this matter? No, not because you are Chinese but because you MUST stand for truth, justice and honesty.

You are proving yourselves to once again be the running dogs that you are truly are. Will you allow politics and political obedience to shackle you from doing the right thing? Stand together with the rest of Malaysians and DEMAND that Teresa Kok is freed because the charges are pure lies, trumped-up lies by a desperate party on the verge of implosion! In this instance, our Malay brethren have come forward to protect the interests, dignity and person of a CHINESE WOMAN FALSELY accused of insulting race and religion of the Malays.

THIS IS THE MALAYSIA WE WANT. And there’s NO PLACE for the likes of you racist scum, MCA & GERAKAN, in the NEW MALAYSIA!

]]> By: akarmalaysian http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/13/abdullah-release-teresa-rpk-tan-and-withdraw-from-precipice-of-new-malaysian-dark-age/comment-page-5/#comment-134446 akarmalaysian Sun, 14 Sep 2008 10:13:25 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/13/abdullah-release-teresa-rpk-tan-and-withdraw-from-precipice-of-new-malaysian-dark-age/#comment-134446 zak hammad, if ur really an observant reader....raja petra dun and i mean dun insult islam.or maybe u dun even understand wat hes writing abt.i am not a muslim and i dun despise islam.i only despise those who think they knw wat islam is all abt and make a mockery of themselves.none religion in this world is greater than the other.religions are not for anyone to brag abt.and no religion must be used as a tool or excuse to degrade any being for personal self interest.so zak hammad if u really dun understand at all wat raja petra has been writing abt in his articles...pls find someone who can really read and understand and explain it to u as wat is written by raja petra. zak hammad,
if ur really an observant reader….raja petra dun and i mean dun insult islam.or maybe u dun even understand wat hes writing abt.i am not a muslim and i dun despise islam.i only despise those who think they knw wat islam is all abt and make a mockery of themselves.none religion in this world is greater than the other.religions are not for anyone to brag abt.and no religion must be used as a tool or excuse to degrade any being for personal self interest.so zak hammad if u really dun understand at all wat raja petra has been writing abt in his articles…pls find someone who can really read and understand and explain it to u as wat is written by raja petra.

]]> By: fkmmoses http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/13/abdullah-release-teresa-rpk-tan-and-withdraw-from-precipice-of-new-malaysian-dark-age/comment-page-5/#comment-134360 fkmmoses Sun, 14 Sep 2008 06:50:24 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/13/abdullah-release-teresa-rpk-tan-and-withdraw-from-precipice-of-new-malaysian-dark-age/#comment-134360 Salam Pada semua ahli parti politik ( UMNO tak termasuk) .Ikut lah nasihat Hamid Alba,kalau anda buat hal diMalaysia? Cepat cepat minta parti anda jatuh hukuman ,tentu tak ditahan ISA.Orang tak pergi sekolah pun tahu tindakan Hamid Alba tu '2standard'.Sia sia saja belajar tinggi,kelulusan beli di pasar malam agaknya. Salam
Pada semua ahli parti politik ( UMNO tak termasuk) .Ikut lah nasihat Hamid Alba,kalau anda buat hal diMalaysia? Cepat cepat minta parti anda jatuh hukuman ,tentu tak ditahan ISA.Orang tak pergi sekolah pun tahu tindakan Hamid Alba tu ‘2standard’.Sia sia saja belajar tinggi,kelulusan beli di pasar malam agaknya.

]]> By: vsp http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/13/abdullah-release-teresa-rpk-tan-and-withdraw-from-precipice-of-new-malaysian-dark-age/comment-page-5/#comment-134355 vsp Sun, 14 Sep 2008 06:32:02 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/13/abdullah-release-teresa-rpk-tan-and-withdraw-from-precipice-of-new-malaysian-dark-age/#comment-134355 lakshy Says: RPK did not insult Islam. --------------------- zak_hammaad Says: RP insults Islam for a living and his blog is an example of that. If should have simply stayed away from Islamic topic as he clearly knows nothing of it and perhaps he would have been a free man today! -------------------- Zak_hammad Pray, tell me. Have you really read what Raja Petra has written on Islam in his blog? I have - each and every one of them – and I agree with Lakshy: RPK did not insult Islam. Perhaps you are the type who just swallow everything that your so-called feudal leaders claimed without taking the trouble to read the articles yourself. The days are over when leaders can say that only they know what is best and the rakyat just agree. Are you? Then, I pity you for your pea-sized brain. lakshy Says:
RPK did not insult Islam.
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zak_hammaad Says:
RP insults Islam for a living and his blog is an example of that. If should have simply stayed away from Islamic topic as he clearly knows nothing of it and perhaps he would have been a free man today!

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Zak_hammad
Pray, tell me. Have you really read what Raja Petra has written on Islam in his blog? I have - each and every one of them – and I agree with Lakshy: RPK did not insult Islam.

Perhaps you are the type who just swallow everything that your so-called feudal leaders claimed without taking the trouble to read the articles yourself. The days are over when leaders can say that only they know what is best and the rakyat just agree. Are you? Then, I pity you for your pea-sized brain.

]]> By: mincetoiletpaper http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/13/abdullah-release-teresa-rpk-tan-and-withdraw-from-precipice-of-new-malaysian-dark-age/comment-page-5/#comment-134351 mincetoiletpaper Sun, 14 Sep 2008 06:20:41 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/13/abdullah-release-teresa-rpk-tan-and-withdraw-from-precipice-of-new-malaysian-dark-age/#comment-134351 Now UMNO is using provocation on the Chinese. Such as chinese is squatters, send out rumours that non-Malays asking the mosques to tone down the prayers "IZAN Controversy". Flaming up both chinese and malay side.Boiling up their blood and then just use the needle to burst the ballooning tension, and whalla people are killing each other. I urged all Chinese & Indians, if you are somehow kill by 'Malay' in coming future do not retaliate and stay calm. Stand up and die as a Malaysian. We are not communists or terrorists. Now UMNO is using provocation on the Chinese. Such as chinese is squatters, send out rumours that non-Malays asking the mosques to tone down the prayers “IZAN Controversy”. Flaming up both chinese and malay side.Boiling up their blood and then just use the needle to burst the ballooning tension, and whalla people are killing each other.

I urged all Chinese & Indians, if you are somehow kill by ‘Malay’ in coming future do not retaliate and stay calm. Stand up and die as a Malaysian. We are not communists or terrorists.

]]> By: LBJ http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/13/abdullah-release-teresa-rpk-tan-and-withdraw-from-precipice-of-new-malaysian-dark-age/comment-page-5/#comment-134339 LBJ Sun, 14 Sep 2008 05:50:40 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/13/abdullah-release-teresa-rpk-tan-and-withdraw-from-precipice-of-new-malaysian-dark-age/#comment-134339 Does anyone know how to work the nomination of RPK for the RAMON MAGSAYSAY Award for public service. RPK should be honoured for his dedication in fighting government abuse and corruption. Let's get him recorgnised. This is the difference between RPK and Syed Hamd and badawi Does anyone know how to work the nomination of RPK for the
RAMON MAGSAYSAY Award for public service. RPK should be honoured for his dedication in fighting government abuse and corruption. Let’s get him recorgnised.

This is the difference between RPK and Syed Hamd and badawi

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