Abdullah - release Teresa, RPK, Tan and withdraw from precipice of new Malaysian dark age
Part 2 - LKS
Part 3 - LKS
Part 4 - Q and A
Part 5 - Teresa’s parent
Part 6 - Dr Hatta
DAP leaders, MPs and State Assembly representatives are gathered in this media conference, together with the parents of Teresa Kok, DAP National Organising Secretary, Selangor Senior Exco Member and MP for Seputeh, to condemn in the strongest possible terms the arrest under the Internal Security Act (ISA) of Teresa, Raja Petra Kamaruddin and the senior Sin Chew Daily reporter Tan Hoon Cheng.
We deplore these ISA arrest and attacks on the media and the blogosphere which also constitute a violation of the Multimedia Super Corridor Bill of Guarantees of no Internet censorship, as the ISA detention of the RPK, the live wire of Malaysia Today news portal, is as good as Internet censorship despite formal government unblocking of the news portal.
Instead of a 916 “sky change” or “political change”, the Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi has orchestrated a 912 “sky-change” of his own, with the ISA arrests and threats to the media and the blogosphere, marking the failure of his premiership to usher in a more open, accountable and democratic administration.
It shows how little things have changed in his five years as Prime Minister – with hardly any structural and institutional reforms or changes as all the repressive laws and institutions have remained intact, just kept in abeyance awaiting to be reactivated, as has happened!
The former Prime Minister, Dr. Mahathir Mohamad took more than six years to abandon his “ABC” (clean, trustworthy and efficient) façade with the 1987 Ops Lalang, putting 106 people under ISA and closing three newspapers.
However, Abdullah took less than five years since becoming Prime Minister to show his face of repression by initiating the current crackdown, up-to-now a mini-Ops Lalang with three ISA arrests and against three newspapers.
This 2008 mini-Ops Lalang is completely unjustified and unacceptable for two reasons:
(i) going against Abdullah’s 2004 general election landslide mandate based on his reform pledges and undertaking to break from the Mahathir past of repressive rule; and
(ii) a totally synthetic crisis arising from gross misgovernance, as there is no national crisis, no racial tension or religious strain unlike the pre-Operation Lalang 1987 which saw serious racial tension resulting from a sustained and systematic campaign of racial polarization by irresponsible elements.
It is the height of irresponsibility to create a synthetic national crisis when the country is faced with a grave economic crisis and the national focus of the government-of-the-day should be to lead all Malaysians to address the economic crisis.
Abdullah is facing a personal political crisis, as evident from the open call by the Umno Vice President Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yasin on him to step down as Prime Minister earlier than his timeframe of mid-2010 and the support given by Umno Deputy President Datuk Seri Najib Razak to Muhyiddin.
However, Abdullah’s personal political crisis as to whether he would have to step down as Prime Minister much earlier than the June-2010 timeline under his “power transition” plan cannot be made an excuse to create a synthetic crisis to justify the use of draconian laws and powers like the ISA and to engender conditions to stamp out attempts by Umno leaders to bring forward his timetable to relinquish the Prime Minister’s post.
All fair-minded and right-thinking Malaysians, regardless of race, religion or political affiliation, reject the use of ISA for the arrest of RPK, Tan Hoon Cheng and Teresa Kok.
RPK’s writings are open and public. He should be charged in court if he had contravened any laws of the land, affording him the opportunity to defend himself in an open trial. The detention-without-trial ISA should not be used against RPK, as it is not only undemocratic and repressive but a clear case of abuse of power.
The detention of Sin Chew reporter Tan Hoon Cheng has evoked all-round outrage by Malays as well as non-Malays, Muslims and non-Muslims.
Everyone in Malaysia is asking – why Ahmad Ismail, the person who had made the provocative, inflammatory and racist reference to the Chinese in Malaysia is not acted against but the reporter, Tan Hoon Cheng, is detainded under the ISA just for reporting what Ahmad said? What has Malaysia become when the most elementary notions of justice and fair play have become alien ideas to the leaders in government?
Teresa’s ISA detention is most ludicrous. She had been accused by the former Selangor Mentri Besar Khir Toyo of wanting to ban the azan in a certain locality in Selangor, which was played up by Utusan Malaysia. Teresa immediately denied the allegation, which was backed up by the mosque committee concerned and the PAS MP for the area also lodged a police report against Khir for the baseless allegation.
If action should be taken, the person who should be the target should be Khir Toyo. Why was Teresa detained under the ISA?
Last night, Teresa was informed at about nine something that she could be on the blacklist of ISA arrests, with the suggestion she go into hiding. Teresa refused as she believed that there is no reason why she should go into hiding as she had not done anything wrong to the country and she was fully prepared to face any ISA arrest. I am very proud of her. I am reminded of my first ISA arrest in 1969 when some party leaders advised me not to return to Kuala Lumpur from Kota Kinabalu as I was on the ISA blacklist. I refused to run away from the country, as I maintained that when the people was going through their darkest hour, the place for me was in the country with them.
The country has been swirling with speculation as to who else were on the ISA blacklist. Among the names mentioned were the DAP Secretary-General and Penang Chief Minister, Lim Guan Eng and myself.
Teresa has already become the first woman MP to be detained under the ISA. Is Abdullah to create another history by having the first Chief Minister in Malaysia to be detained under the ISA?
I call on Abdullah or the Home Minister Datuk Seri Syed Hamid Albar to publicly declare who are on the ISA blacklist to be detained, whether Guan Eng and I are on the list. I will not go into hiding if I am on the list. There is no need for any cat-and-mouse game. Just make it public.
Cabinet Ministers should explain whether the three ISA arrests and action against the three newspapers had received Cabinet approval as Ministers like the Information Minister, Shabery Cik have openly defended the ISA arrest of RPK.
I call on Malaysians to be calm and go about their usual business peacefully and normally. They should not allow themselves to be provoked although there are irresponsible elements who want to engineer another May 13 or another full-scale Ops Lalang.
Malaysia in 2008 is completely different from 1969 when certain elements succeeded in creating a scenario of racial confrontation between the Malays and the Chinese over the May 13 incident. There is no racial confrontation in Malaysia of 2008, as the Pakatan Rakyat comprises all races – Malays, Chinese and Indians – and all religions!
I also want to call on Abdullah to pull back from the precipice of a new Malaysian dark age. Release Teresa, RPK and Tan from ISA immediately and cancel the show cause notice to the three newspapers concerned, or his premiership wll be stained forever by the repression and dark age of 912 - September 12, 2008.
(Media Conference Statement on ISA arrests of Teresa Kok, Raja Petra Kamaruddin and Tan Hoon Cheng held at DAP PJ Hqrs on Saturday, 13th September 2008 at 11.30 am)
September 13th, 2008 at 15: 26.02
uncle kit
takpe….bebanyak bersabor
lagi mereka guna ISA, lagi cepat mereka tumbang
refomasi………..
September 13th, 2008 at 15: 26.33
check this out… e-mail to me from a friend
Hi there,
Re: recent ISA arrests, we need to calm fears, discourage violence and beware of the play on race & religion.
There will be a CANDLE-LIGHT VIGIL tonight (13th) 8.30pm at Bukit Aman Come and show solidarity to those detained, as well to make a stand against the draconian ISA. This is organised by GMI (Gerakan Mansur ISA) with the support of NGOs. Call me for an alternative venue if the roads are blocked (0126120177).
On Monday 15th nite, there will another gathering at the Kelana Jaya Stadium. This was planned earlier by the Selangor State Government to celebrate Sabah + Sarawak Merdeka day, but now also to show solidarity to those detained.
If you can’t make it, lit a candle, or better still light a lantern (festival 2moro) and say a prayer for the detainees and their loved ones, for our beloved country.
Soo Choo
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September 13th, 2008 at 15: 32.33
This is the start of a most distressing and disturbing dark age in this country. Black is white & white is black now as declared by the government. All criminals in the prisons should be set free as they are not responsible for the crimes that they have committed. It is the victims that caused these criminals to do so by being the victims. Get rid of all victims then there will be no criminals.
Long live Bolehland logic in the 21st century!!!
September 13th, 2008 at 15: 36.39
Kit
WE need to let all Malaysians know what is actually happening…
We all need to let the world know what is happening…
We need internal & external pressure to “force” the despotic govt release the ISA detainees…
I don’t know how… but I hope you and the leaders in PR whom we elected have the networks…
Please help restore our country…
Our ASEAN neighbour, our Asian counterparts, our friends in UN, and the world at large need to see how desperate people who want to flex muscle within their own party to gain support are willing to put the whole country through chaos…
We are pushed back into dark ages…
We need help… inside out…
We need change… all over the country…
The whole nation cannot be silent anymore…
The silent majority must speak…
The arrests under ISA is not for the benefit of the majority…
It is a sandiwara… tunjuk “TERROR” among the UMNO leaders to gain support from thier own grassroot…
Kit, we need help…
We hope that you and your PR colleagues will send these through the network and restore our country’s dignity…
September 13th, 2008 at 15: 40.11
Petition the US to impose sanctions on Abdullah and Hamid.
September 13th, 2008 at 15: 42.22
BRAVE / SMART WARRIORS FROM DAP but tikus from umno.
September 13th, 2008 at 15: 54.31
What a brave lady Teresa is!
You have fought for us, and we will fight for you now!
Candlelight vigil for Teresa Kok tonight 19:00hr at DAP PJ HQ. Female comrades are requested to wear DAP t-shirts. Public is welcome. Please pass the word around. No 24, Jalan 20/9, Paramount Garden, 46300, Petaling Jaya, Selangor. Tel: +603-79578022/79578127
September 13th, 2008 at 15: 55.29
BN government really make people angry and disappointed, we can not use PAK LAH as our PM right now!!!! kick him out!!! sincerely hope that 16th sept will ’sky change’……let pak lah, syed hamid, thir toyo, ahmad ismail go into jail as they make social nervous and unstable.
September 13th, 2008 at 15: 56.08
Well,i am not suprised.
You guys must accept that the fact is like how North Korea have Kim Jong’s,in Malaysia it’s our UMNO leaders.I watched a documentation about North Korea where if you don’t bound or resist the great dictator,your whole family will end up in a place called Camp 21.Here it’s ISA (well 1 day our UMNO’s will introduce the same rule anyway..).I am really suprised when the person who made racist remarks walk away with 3 years suspension while the one who wrote the truth end up in ISA.So how can Syed Hamid Albar said god sake it’s for our Homeland security?I bet he learned that from Ruwanda,Congo and definitely from our ex-PM’s very best friend from Zimbabwe.
September 13th, 2008 at 15: 56.14
Why misuse the power ? Why catch the innocent people?
September 13th, 2008 at 15: 57.40
MCA should say something, Tan Lian Hua (Gerakan ) should say something! Dont keep quiet there! All Malaysian watching at you!
September 13th, 2008 at 16: 00.20
in the 70’s, we always heard about James Wong, the then opposition leader in Sarawak, who was jailed under ISA. I don’t know how many years was he in prison until he joined the corrupted government. But his SNAP was divided and subdivided until he was dumped by BN.
i afraid mahathir may become not as bad person if abdullah kept exercising unlawful action toward innocent people in earning himself the worst prime minister in the history. malaysians of different races and religions are really mad at him and the government, as well as the police.
September 13th, 2008 at 16: 01.59
Oops…sorry..correction..
It’s Rwanda.
September 13th, 2008 at 16: 06.33
Just heard that the reporter is released.
http://anilnetto.com/uncategorized/sin-chew-reporter-released/
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Apart from the candle vigil for YB Kok, it is so clear that it was UMNO’s Toyol who started the “mosque” issue that could cause public disorder. If left uncorrected it may well have led so. It was YB Kok’s wisdom that quickly came to dufuse the situation and the “mosque” people also came out to clarify and hence defused the dangerous remark that was made by that irresponsible UMNO guy. Malaysians have alot to thank YB Kok.
Imagine someone digs a big hole in the highway to cause harm to motorists and YB Kok discovered the danger and sounded the alarm to inform travellers. Instead of thanking her for saving needless lost of lives the authority put her into jail while the digger remains at large. What logic is this????
PAS & Islamic community should lodge police reports against the government for this ruthless, mindless, a real cause of public disorder act.
Justice must be returned to YB Kok immediately!!!!
September 13th, 2008 at 16: 09.53
PM really want to listen the true or fact?
September 13th, 2008 at 16: 14.15
Light a candle at your gate tonight as a sign of support for those who have been unjustly prosecuted!
September 13th, 2008 at 16: 15.49
I checked the BLOOMSBURY and the OXFORD dictionaries again to see if I had got the meaning of the word “amok” right before I use it.
I can now confirm that it would be apt to say that UMNO has gone amok with the ISA arrests. It’s simply brainless!
September 13th, 2008 at 16: 16.01
Sin Chew Daily News reporter Tan Hoon Cheng, who was arrested under the Internal Security Act 1960, maybe released as soon as Saturday, said Home Minister Datuk Seri Syed Hamid Albar.
He said Tan was detained under Section 73(1) of the Act in order to ensure her safety as police intelligence indicated that there were threats to her life after she reported on Bukit Bendera division Umno chairman Datuk Ahmad Ismail’s allegedly racist remarks.
“We have no intention of holding a reporter as after all she was just taking notes of the comments made by a certain party that led to a public debate.
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We need to continue applying the pressure to get them all released…
Whatever rots the Home minister says, we don’t care…
First goal, apply PRESSURE… APPLY PRESSURE…
Get them released first…
The we can fire endless salvo in reply to their rotten excuses…
What the Home Minster says don’t make sense…
If there are threats towards Ms Tan, then they should neutralise the threats… not Ms Tan… (WHAT LOGIC?)
But never mind… APPLY PRESSURE… from within the country and with the help of the world community…
GET THEM OUT FIRST….
I was a silent & timid Malaysian…
But was angered and outraged to the point that I now dare to write in and also sign the petition…
AMAN
September 13th, 2008 at 16: 16.15
OMG AAB you more Sinister than you look…
I will share my blood in vain to protect my beloved leaders, they’re my hero the nation heroes and OUR MALAYSIAN FUTURE.
WE should not let this happen to them they dont deserve this sarcastic goverment who LOCK THEM BEHIND BARS instead this Criminals should be the UMNOputras themselve.
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?6ai18u26
Dont let it slow down, continue our effords in here…
Its our only hope!
September 13th, 2008 at 16: 16.24
Besides, some politicians like Ahmad and others think that ‘going amok’ is a nice brand name for UMNO. So they brandish that brand from time to time to strike terror in people.
Malaysians should never allow brainless criminals in UMNO to take over the country.
September 13th, 2008 at 16: 16.32
I am very sad and disappointed with what the government has been doing so far! Like you said, they are trying to create another May 13 1969. We are already mature and will deal with the situation calmly. Why all this brain drain, as all the capable persons all migrate to overseas in view of this hopeless government. I too has this idea of finding a greener pasture/another country to migrate in this morning. I have totally disappointed with our government, what is the future of our children? We are in Africa, under Apartheid law? I really hope that there is a change of everything and truly hope that 916 will happen. We badly need a change, a big cleanups of all the bad apples and to have a better future. We are Malaysian and should enjoy every right to be a citizen and we should teach our children what is right and what is wrong, but with current situation, the government is confusing the people. The person who does wrong will get away and the person who is performing his/her responsibilty will be penalised. Moreover, the matter will again depend on what skin color are you and which party are you from! I am thinking that Malaysia has become a gangster country whereby you have to play by the rules of the head of the gangster and whoever the head do not like, will be penalised by any ways! Wake up, our leaders!! “Tuhan ada mata”! I believe in cause and effect!! I will pray hard that the CHANGE will materialise VERY SOON!!! We are all watching and we know who is doing the right thing and who is not!
September 13th, 2008 at 16: 17.27
ABB administration has put its final four nails into its political coffin by the arresting of the SIN Chew reporter. No a single right thinking will be able to reconcile this action. We fell sad and we feel totally shame by such an action. ABB’s administration is setting the racial trap to create uneasiness in the country to keep it political life. Let all Malaysian do not fall into this dirtiest political trap in this world. We must focus on what is the right agenda to fight for our right for all Malaysian. At this difficult time that not only faced by our country and the recession is real through the world let us keep our focus and never fall into this political trap other wise 50+ years will be go down the drain by this idiotic action.
September 13th, 2008 at 16: 18.41
The more arrests AAB orders, the blacker the eye for BN! Simply show they are cowards trying to hide behind the veil of ISA!
September 13th, 2008 at 16: 19.40
Wrong decisions, wrong time, wrong place.
Do not over-react to the scenario in the country, please.
More useful would be to carry on with the necessary work tirelessly, sensibly, and honestly.
September 13th, 2008 at 16: 20.47
Home Minister Datuk Seri Syed Hamid Albar said that no more ISA arrests were expected but it will depend on the situation of public order.
Hello, Syed hamid - what public order, tokking you? when was public order or security ever in jeopardy? Go get your numbskull checked by a psychiatrist! You are a stupid hypochondriac if ever there was one.
September 13th, 2008 at 16: 21.45
The three detainees are no threat to national security. AAB knows it. It is the expressed intention of the police to arrest somebody whom the public could easily discern that the action was unfair. The purpose was to lure people into protest mood so that the government might have an excuse to prevent ‘public disobedience or disturbances”, and hence a state of emergency could be declared.
When a state of emergency is declared, the parliament would be suspended. There is no constitutional body to assess whether the government has the confidence of House of Representative. So the government currently in power will remain in power, however few the number of MPs AAB might still command. It is the desperate act of not just AAB to remain as PM, but all others who hang on his coattail would want to remain in power. Barisan Pakatan cannot form the new government even if it has secured the support of the majority of MPs in the House.
We have to make sure that the government does not have the slightest excuse to declare a state of emergency. It might be possible that AAB is no longer in charge, or he is facing insubordination within his UMNO party.
I suggest that instead of gathering to demand for the release of the three detainees, Barisan Pakatan should just tell the people to stay home and observe hours of silence. Let the MPs who are now learning agriculture in Taiwan to return. They might have learnt a thing or two for a regime change soon after the King has returned from his overseas trip.
Appeal and demonstration might be useful if the person to whom we appeal has the authority to decide. It appears that he has lost everything. So, let the police try their tricks, and we should avoid falling into the trap.
It was bad to make a mistake 40 years ago. It will be stupid to repeat the same mistake!
September 13th, 2008 at 16: 23.09
Where is our Agong? Again!?
September 13th, 2008 at 16: 25.54
This is madness - ISA used with no sense, on innocent messengers rather than on the crooks who were out stirring emotions and troubles in the country!
But again people who lead a repressive regime are always made mad before the collapse of the regime.
The journalist who reported truthfully what was spoken kena ISA. The racist who uttered the filth got his membership suspended for 3 years and this was considered to be a harsh punishment!
No wonder, Ooi Kee Beng wrote: “Double standards favouring Umno members became a common occurrence, and a blind eye was turned only when it suited party members.”
It’s time for closure of Umno-led repression in this nation. Let’s hope all fair-minded people, including those who were or are in partnership with Umnoputras in the BN, will stand up to be counted and to say ‘Tak Nak’ and ‘Cukup lah’ to Umno!
Reformasi, transformasi! CHANGE!
September 13th, 2008 at 16: 37.08
teresa got arrested based on ‘unconfirmed allegation’ by khir toyo that she was involved in the petition to tone down azans.
Malaysiakini: “According to Abdul Rahman Nasir, the head of the mosque committee, Kok had never set foot in Masjid Kinrara to present the residents’ petition.”
so, why they still detain her without trial ??
September 13th, 2008 at 16: 38.29
Petition to US is not enough. The NUJ must contact all their countrparts around the world and ask them to write in their local dailes what is happening in our country by the stupid Abdullahand his goverment on we selected citizens.
September 13th, 2008 at 16: 39.36
As we Malaysians of all races & religions come together as one to up hold Justice & righteousness, let us continue to pray for the peace of God to be with the afflicted & their family members and that greater confusion will be upon the falling house of UMNO.
Malaysians deserve a change for better checks & balances.
May God bless Malaysia!
September 13th, 2008 at 16: 40.10
Dear mmc2008,
I beg to differ. They ( I assume you must be referrig to UMNO) is not trying to create another May 13. And for your information, ask Uncle Lim on DAP’s role on May 13.
Please remember when you say rubbish about May 13, there are many who witnessed the carnage can come forward. Only they ( these simple Malays) refuse to open the old wound. What for, they asked. Will the Chinese willing to accept what DAP did durimg May 13.
Raja Petra deserved what he gets. He really crossed the line. There is no need to insult the Prophet or Islam even if he cant stomach the government of the day.
There is no such thing as unlimited freedom. Freedom comes with responsibility. And there is no such unlimited freedom in any country. Law must be respected. If not chaos will reign.
If you are under apartheid, you will not have Guan Eng becoming Chief Minister of Penang. Under aparteid, his place is some isolated island , spending more than 20 years in perpetual detention. Yes. That things can happen( had already happened) in South africa and Singapore.
September 13th, 2008 at 16: 46.40
Why has Koh TK and his lackeys stopped threatening to withdraw Gerakan from BN now? Scared stiff of being ISA-ed!
September 13th, 2008 at 16: 47.05
That’s why boh-liao, it’s time for Parliament to enact the UMNOPUTRA PROTECTION ACT and start debating on it! It will ensure Umnoputras are given absolute right to insult and instigate anyone, anytime, anywhere without any legal liabilities! The most they will get is party “punishment”!
Perhaps thereafter, they may consider applying to the World Wildlife Fund for a protection order as well, as they are facing “extinction” despite being the majority race in MALAYSIA!
September 13th, 2008 at 16: 47.39
OMG..ISA again and AGAIN….wont u guys feel bored with it? the way that the government control a person FREEDOM..mana SUARA RAYKAT then???
sometimes we malaysian are like watching DRAMA in our Malaysia Politic..other people outside in this country feel like watching COMEDY..with this many many things that happened recently to Malaysia, if the case going on like this..i guess Malaysia economy will have no where to go.
If they think we are “PENDATANG”..ok fine, Singapore and many other countries will willingly accept us
but come on..think another way round,why should we leave this country after years of developement.
Ask the people on the street, DO YOU FEEL MERDERKA festival happening around this year? they will surely answer you : NO. even if bumiputera themself, how many people did put up their flags? ya…got, only the GOVERNMENT themself:)
For goodness sick, please give us a peace of mind and stop the DRAMA !!! We malaysian people want is PROGRESS, not DRAMA. if u guys want DRAMA, please go to HOLLYWOOD
September 13th, 2008 at 16: 48.19
Uncle Lim,
Hanya satu jaminan dari DAP bahawa terus memelihara Islam dan Melayu, adalah satu jaminan agar tiada prejudis berterusan, apa yang dilakukan LGE amat memberansangkan, cuma komitmen menyeluruh.
Jangan takut dengan Islam ia pasti tidak akan memudaratkan sesiapa Islam itu lengkap, cuma penganutnya yang perlu dibaiki agar mengamal dengan Islam yang sebenar, Islam mencintai keamanan dan kerjasama dengans semua agama.
Serlahkan perjuangan ini didalam dasar DAP agar Melayu mudah menerima, ungkapan DAP Baru untuk Malaysia Baru umpamanya, membanyakkan kemasukan Melayu dalam DAP dan memperincikan dasar-dasar yang bertentangan atau tidak selari dengan komponen PR yang lain.
InsyaALLAH semua orang akan gembira.
September 13th, 2008 at 16: 53.15
winsoontan said :
MCA should say something, Tan Lian Hua (Gerakan ) should say something! Dont keep quiet there! All Malaysian watching at you!
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They ARE saying something. It’s just that you must use doctor’s stetoscope to hear their very forceful shouting.
To all who are calling for us to run to USA for help. Apalah… are we really so powerless we must run to the US like little children crying? We might just be trading our BN hantu for a bunch of white hantu… Sanctions will hurt the WHOLE of Malaysia, including poor folk who are already struggling to make ends meet.
I hope there is no violence, but one thing for sure is that IF we ever have the privilege to cast our ballot in another General Election, BN is gone.
I am at peace. Up to 2 years ago, I was a die-hard BN supporter, and oblilvious to the rot that is within. When I voted for Pakatan, I was not sure I made the right decision.
Badawi, Najib, Syed Al Akhbar, Khir, Hishamuddin… now I tell you the truth - I am at peace. My vote was correct.
September 13th, 2008 at 16: 56.49
Hi YB Lim, as lawyer by qualification proceed with the writ of habeas corpus as the first 60 days is just the time frame of investigation detention. Stop all the championing and resort to what ever legal avenues available and that will be better.
By the way have you surf http://www.charleshector.blogspot.com?
The title “Silencing Human Rights Lawyer by getting him committed to a metal institution.”
Which is better?
Regards
KZ
September 13th, 2008 at 16: 59.34
“Syed Hamid said that whether any more ISA arrests would be made depended on the public order situation.”
http://m.themalaysianinsider.com/articles.php?id=8932-syed-hamid-says-reporter-may-be-out-soon-and-no-more-arrests-likely
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The only one who is causing public disorder is SYED HAMID -
Imagine “A” saw someone started a fire to burn down a house and she quickly extinguished it and reported the matter and she ended of being jailed by Syed Hamid while the guy who started the fire looms free with the possibility of starting another fire.
What logic? This is “in our country we do things our way - BBC Hard Talk interview” Syed Hamid’s logic! No wonder they say ISA is “Ikut Suka Saya”.
BTW This infamous “Syed Hamid Logic” is making its way across the world fast and will soon become a household name.
Syed Hamid should be sued by Malaysian community!
September 13th, 2008 at 17: 04.41
[...] • DAP Kit Siang recollects his first ISA arrest by Stanley, September 13, 2008 ” Last night, Teresa was informed at about nine something that she could be on the blacklist of ISA arrests, with the suggestion she go into hiding. Teresa refused as she believed that there is no reason why she should go into hiding as she had not done anything wrong to the country and she was fully prepared to face any ISA arrest. I am very proud of her. I am reminded of my first ISA arrest in 1969 when some party leaders advised me not to return to Kuala Lumpur from Kota Kinabalu as I was on the ISA blacklist. I refused to run away from the country, as I maintained that when the people was going through their darkest hour, the place for me was in the country with them.” Lim Kit Siang [...]
September 13th, 2008 at 17: 07.10
Even if Teresa really did make the petition, what is the big deal about it? What crime was it? Sensitivity? @#%^%$## !
Many poor and hard working citizens need a few hours of good sleep in order to be ready for another day of hard work. Why should we deny them such basic right?
September 13th, 2008 at 17: 09.47
Tan Hoon Cheng has just been released by the police at 4pm and she is now safely in her house in Bukit Mertajam.
September 13th, 2008 at 17: 12.53
she is being released, but being detained again by the police because her life is in threatened, and the police want to get to the bottom of it….
September 13th, 2008 at 17: 13.11
Geram, why are these things happening in our country? Ask mamakthir and cronies! This type of leaders have no place in Malaysia. They can go and join this leader Zimbabwe, Congo and maybe North Korea. So, PR you people should know what to do next. My empathy to those arrested under ISA.
September 13th, 2008 at 17: 15.13
Syed Hamid means “Leak” What!
September 13th, 2008 at 17: 17.24
Syed Amid said detaintion to protect her life? ISA is to protect a life? Do I miss listen what he say?
September 13th, 2008 at 17: 19.18
If saye amid use the wrong rule or law to protect a life or person, he should resign immediately!
September 13th, 2008 at 17: 19.43
Yes! Yes! Thank God
Sin Chew Daily News reporter Tan Hoon Cheng has been released.
Don’t forget about this lesson. Other than what PKR and other groups have done, it is also the pressure from Washington that reverse these plotters plan.
I always heard about Goment criticising about US and demanding them not to interfere with our internal affairs. Today, illustrate well one of the many many ‘false perception’ and ‘tricks’ this Goment is hiding behind to suppress the rakyat from progressing. All these nonsence are created by the same ppl itself to serve only their own interest. You think US have no better things to do?
Today, I felt my only freedom can be stolen away anytime. To me, the only real threat and enemy is my own ppl in this country and who is the real savior? Ppl from other country. Shame, mockery, nothing worth mentioning as far as this Goment has done for the rakyat. Playing God - God will not be mock!! Just wait.
September 13th, 2008 at 17: 22.10
Great to know that Hoon Cheng has beenr released! But the detentions leave a sour taste in sane people’s mouths. We don’t have to speculate about the reasons but we need to respond enthusiastically for the innocent detainees in a calm and collective manner, less we fall into the trap set by the perpetrators of this dastardly scheme.
As a country, Malaysia is very good at shooting ourselves in the foot and this latest situation just about tops it all. In a globalized economy today, that’s one more reason why investors will invest elsewhere and why more brains will be drained away.
September 13th, 2008 at 17: 22.57
///14. The votes that the opposition parties got were not due to a desire to replace the Barisan Nasional with the unstructured Pakatan Rakyat. They were protest votes. But is it protest against the Barisan Nasional party? Is it a rejection of race-based politics? I don’t think so. ///–TDM in CheDet.com, 12/9/2008
TDM has clearly stated that BN practiced race-based politics, and he still believes that the people do not reject them. The term race-based politics is in the context that policies of the government are decided based on race. Also the implementation of government policies was based on race too. It further confirms that the rule of law is also race-based. This is confirmed by the latest incident where the person who made obscene utterances was able to avoid the clutches of the law whereas the person whose job was to report what happened on the ground is said to endanger national security, and to invite ISA detention. The current arrest says that the government is practicing double standards.
TDM said that he had to balance the interest between the races. AAB shows the world how he balances the interests. When a Malay was reprimanded for his statement, and for showing his defiance against the party leadership, the Chinese reporter had to pay the price of the punishment meted out to that Malay. That is the way Malays could be pacified, in the mind of the president of the party that champions race-based politics. Certainly AAB lives in the dinosaurs’ age in thinking that Malays could not reason about what is fair. Malays having come through the 21 century where they can see first hand through TV and news on how civilized persons live outside the boundary of Bolehland know exactly that everyman is his own keeper, and they success or failure of a Malay, like AAB, need not bring them pride or shame, as the case may be. A Malay is like any other Chinese will pay for his sins, and will be rewarded for his efforts. The wrong done by a Malay and reprimanded will be as shameful for himself whether another person of another race was wrongly punished or not. The wrong of a Malay will not be put right just because a non-Malay is punished, unfairly, for whistle-blowing.
Race-based politics are complicated because they interfere with the proper running of a government based on rule of law. Had AAB made a break from race-based politics before he has nothing to offer the ex-MBs and their cronies in the states fallen to Barisan Pakatan, he needed only to care about good governance, and will still retain his position without giving in to transition plan. But it is because he was guided by TDM’s race-based politics for ensuring captive Malay votes that he finds himself off balance when the racist games of UMNOputras are public knowledge.
TDM seems to believe that race-based politics is still the order of the day? The single mosquito that caused so much trouble to a 26 million population nation should be burnt without sparing the mosquito net.
September 13th, 2008 at 17: 23.02
Reporter Tan’s arrest is just to serve as a warning to all reporters - from now on if they hear any racist slur, just ignore it. They will get into trouble if they report it.
Tan is released. I wonder she will be the same reporter as before. I hope she will.
September 13th, 2008 at 17: 24.25
What? Only one day? And syed hamid made such a big issue out of it saying that the unpopular decision was necessary in the interest of national security and for the benefit of the majority.
Lock them away for 2 months at least. The ISA allows that. Detain more people. Please put the fear of umno in their heads and their hearts so that they would never ever again criticise umno.
Ah let me guess. Syed Hamid, so its was not your decision nor was it your idea to arrest the three. Someone else gave the order for arrest and you simple announce that order.
It must be the unknown hand at work again - the same hand that was behind the blocking of MT and the blocking of parliament’s corridor.
I hope that the owner of that unknown hand has ears and eyes, a mind and a warm heart. I want to tell him to block umno out of parliament.
September 13th, 2008 at 17: 29.11
Sham shulA….
RPK did not insult Islam. He commented on what is being practised here. Did you even read and understand his articles? Dont just follow the wind like lallang.
Were you around during May 13th? Do you know first hand what transpired from DAP side? Were you part of the action?
Come to Ipoh and talk to members of the RMR who were here during May 13th to find out what they have to say. Hear from Malay soldiers direct. Interested?
September 13th, 2008 at 17: 35.35
It is blantantly abuse of power. Can Hoon Cheng sue the Minister Syed Hamid and the goverment?
September 13th, 2008 at 17: 40.10
lakshy Says:
>> RPK did not insult Islam.
RP insults Islam for a living and his blog is an example of that. If should have simply stayed away from Islamic topic as he clearly knows nothing of it and perhaps he would have been a free man today!
September 13th, 2008 at 17: 40.55
this is bodowi’s revenge for forcing to suspend his man. its not the end. his next target is the 4 PKR MPs !!
I predict once they land on malaysia soil, police will get to them immediately at either the airport or when they are either on the way back or to HQ to report their progress!!
bodowi will make very sure that these MPs are napped no matter the MPs were successful or not in convincing the ‘defectors’ using ISA again . Reason is obvious - he don’t want them to create among th erakyat !! actually , it is HIM & HIS SINKING SHIP who is feeling with panic and anxiety !!
i surely hope PK has made certain divertions to trick and outcast bodowi’s plan to capture these 4 MPs first. e.g. telling the rakyat that these 4 MPs are on the way when actually is not while PK has through tecknology, get their data on the numbers of MPs cross-overs and ’sneakingly, finding the way to the Agung for his consent!!
however, i’m am very sure all opposition MPS whether in or outside malaysia is now ‘heavily spied’ by bodowi’s police on their movements so MUST ACT WITH EXTRA CAUTIOUS !! Our future is in PK’s hand while BN’s doom is in PK’s hands. don’t let this event not to happen.
i hope on 916, PK will be new government instead of being HISTORY for the oppositions should bodowi’s police round up and put into cold ice under ISA all by that time!!
September 13th, 2008 at 17: 41.53
Tan Hoon Cheng must take legal action against the government and the police for wrongful arrest! Otherwise, there is no lesson learnt for UMNO
September 13th, 2008 at 17: 45.00
This is all craps…… damage has done ….. as after all an innocent journalist Tan Hoon Cheng who only performed her duty as a reporter….
Tan Hoon Cheng, please be strong and do not impact by this as you need to be continued to be a professional journalist and continue to write for us as reporter, do not bow to evil ………
we need more support for RPK and Teresa Kok, we need more support……
Hidup Pakatan Rakyat, Hidup DAP/PAS/PKR…
September 13th, 2008 at 17: 45.22
lakshy,
perhaps shamsul need some illustrations.
Now if I say “you are stupid” and you are not, that would be an insult.
If I say “you are stupid because you should not have gone on the road with so little petrol” and you are now stalled in the middle of nowhere, that would not be an insult.
RPK has his views about islam. He justifies his views with reasons and arguments, rightly or wrongly (I dont know). I urge you to go and read them.
September 13th, 2008 at 17: 48.52
Just this morning, I was having teh tarik with my malay friend and both of us were sadden coz he was as angry as I was. Come to think of it. I felt much safer with him coz we were just common rakyat. We seek refuge in each other, from whom? Yes from our own Goment. Do I now trust the Goment to protect us and they have pledge to serve the rakyat? Don’t want to answer lah…..Sick lah.
My word!! This ##@! says police intelligence indicated that there were threats to her life (Tan Hoon Cheng) So, this is what they do… Put her thru ISA?
Defies every common sense and logics!!
What intelligence is this? Simply Out of this world!!! Must be a lost aliens running this country.
September 13th, 2008 at 17: 51.21
Really patetic, Malaysian govt can no longer tell what is right from what is wrong. Do what needs to be done, not waht you want based on your personal motives. Else the end will be very near.
September 13th, 2008 at 17: 55.58
Next, Anwar will be isa-ed because “there are threats to his life”
September 13th, 2008 at 17: 56.16
Syed Hamid logic principle number 1 -
When someone threatens the life of a reporter, knowing full well who has made the threat, arrest the reporter and inflict untold amount of anxiety; fear and grieve to her family members while letting the culprit looms free. What logic??????
Tan’s family should start legal action IMMEDIATELY against Syed Hamid and the federal government for Rm100 million. The Malaysian community should also start legal action against Syed Hamid for “brainlessly” applied ISA on the pretext of protection for an individual causing public fear & disorder.
September 13th, 2008 at 18: 00.44
shamshul anuar Says:
Today at 16: 40.10 (1 hour ago)
Dear mmc2008,
I beg to differ. They ( I assume you must be referrig to UMNO) is not trying to create another May 13. And for your information, ask Uncle Lim on DAP’s role on May 13.
Please remember when you say rubbish about May 13, …
************
1. First, he ass-u-me mmc2008 refers to UMNO. No need to ass-u-me. Just ask straight out to mmc2008 whether he refers to UMNO or something else.
2. Then, he sees himself as the superior who tells mmc2008 to remember not to utter “rubbish”.
Isn’t this a complete waste of time to talk to someone who
1. Ass-u-me, and put words into your mouth, and then
2. tells you it is “rubbish”.
So, applying Shamsul’s techniques:
1. I ass-u-me Shamsul likes to eat garbage.
2. Shamsul - listen to me, just leave those garbage alone.
Please remember when you say you like to eat rubbish, there are many who witnessed the carnage can come forward. Only they ( just ask your simple cousins) refuse to open the old wound. What for, they asked. Will you be willing to stop eating garbage?
Garbage eaters deserved what they get. They really crossed the line. There is no need to insult decent people even if they cant stomach the garbage.
There is no such thing as unlimited garbage. Garbage comes with responsibility. And there is no such unlimited freedom in any country. Law must be respected. If not chaos will reign.
If you are under garbage, you will not be able to see beyond garbage. Under garbage rule, his place is some isolated island , spending more than 20 years in perpetual detention. Yes. That things can happen( had already happened) elsewhere.
You and your likes are rubbish. Let me remind you that a lot of people will come out and tell you not to eat rubbish. But they are just kind people who prefer to let you be who you are.
************
See? Doesn’t make sense isn’t it?
September 13th, 2008 at 18: 02.41
Reporter! REPORT THE TRUTH about that and you are dead
Opposition! FIGHT FOR THE VOICELESS among them and you are dead
BLOGGER! SPEAK UP AGAINST them and you are dead
HELP! Would United Nations help us? United Nations, are your hearing the dying whispers?
September 13th, 2008 at 18: 06.04
Shamsul said:
“There is no such thing as unlimited freedom. Freedom comes with responsibility. And there is no such unlimited freedom in any country. Law must be respected. If not chaos will reign.”
I say there is no unlimited POWER. POWER comes with responsibility. And there is no such unlimited POWER in any country. Law must be respected. If not chaos will reign.
Between power and freedom, which one is the more disastrous when abused? The freedom to speak, to do so loudly, carelessly, nonsensically, or irresponsibly are different levels of the same freedom. The first three levels are plain annoyance to listeners. The last could incite some emotion. And it takes a lot of inciting before collective emotion emerge.
What about power? I have the power to arrest and detain anyone. I dont like your face, so I brand you a terrorist and lock you up for 2 years.
Power and freedom. So which one of the two must be checked more closely?
And lets not forget that the person who weilds the power is actually your servant. You are his master. You are the one who put him in office once every 5 years and dress him with the power to detain you and your fellow mates.
The least you should do is to remind those whom you put into position of power to be very careful when they use their powers.
September 13th, 2008 at 18: 07.00
I do not believe a crap what this stupid “Baldie” said. He got the innocent reporter under ISA in order to protect her. What rubbish!! Was he trying to tell the rakyat subtlely that our “efficient” police are totally useless that they cannot even protect a harmless lady. Anyway not surprise if that is the case. Malaysia boleh la.
Actually this arrest was meant to scare her and other reporters to “dudok diam diam”.
We rakyat are not dumb dumb like you evil doers.
Heard that reporter Tan was released. I hope she will be the same reporter Tan as before. She and all reporters should be brave enough to report the truth on all issues that affect the rakyat. If you tell the truth we are all behind you.
September 13th, 2008 at 18: 11.20
Muhydin is saying a lot of things to badawi these last few days. Telling badawi to pack up and leave putrajaya.
How dare he threaten badawi like that?
And poor badawi had to defend himself by saying that he is not staying on for fun.
Oi, Syed Hamid where are you? PM is shakened! Detain him for god’s sake. To protect him from threats.
September 13th, 2008 at 18: 13.24
i’ve read the appeal letter(surat rayuan)as displayed in’m’sians say the darndest thig blog’ sent by Pers. Penduduk Kinrara 5 puchong to the adun and cc’d to the Mosque Committee with regards to the noise problem emanating from the mosque nearby. And as a muslim i found the content of the letter to be absolutely NON-offensive at all. the word ‘rayuan’ and ‘merayu’ tells that this is a plea not a demand. the letter is very politely and carefully sentenced. there’s absolutely nothing offensive whatsoever. wonder those muslims who had taken offense(if there are any) hav read the letter.
A plea was made based on reasonable and humane points, no insults were thrown to any religion. It’s then the prerogative of the Adun and/or the mosque committee whether to act on the plea or not.
But certainly there was no insults to any religion in the letter.
September 13th, 2008 at 18: 14.41
“Journalist freed, was held because her life threatened, cops tell Syed Hamid”
http://m.themalaysianinsider.com/articles.php?id=8945
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“Syed Hamid logic” principle number 2:
After you discovered that you have made a wrongful decision to have the reporter ARRESTED ARRESTED ARRESTED under ISA, simply push the blame to the police. Hahaha
He is making our whole Malaysian police force looks so stupid. What logic???
If the cops really told Syed Hamid about the reporter’s life is under threat, surely Syed Hamid & the Royal police force can think of something better to safeguard her safety than invoking ISA.
Now, the Tan’s family must not only sue Syed Hamid & the Federal Government, they must also sue the Royal police force. This is fast becoming an unbearable JOKE!
Syed Hamid, STOP passing the bug!
September 13th, 2008 at 18: 18.30
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September 13th, 2008 at 18: 18.32
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September 13th, 2008 at 18: 24.21
The ISA past detainees like LKS, LGE, Tian Chua, Tan HC, …others are SAINT HEROs of the nation. We salute them for fighting the human rights and freedom from dirty politicians and corrupt government.
Two ex ISA and ex Prisoner of conscience like LGE and Anwar are good future leaders of Malaysia. They learnt the Truth Survival Life to be a Free man today.
It is time for both leaders to lead the nation and removed the corrupt greedy leaders and save Malaysia future.
Anwar was a strong activist who played up racial tension to gain malay support in the past, but his bad karma acts were bad fired with bad faiths in return of six years jailed. Anwar sudah “bertaubat” to understand he required all races to love and support him for his political survival. Today Anwar is a learnt leader who willing to accept all races as his children and to protect the Islam, Malay rights, Malay Sultans and Constitutions as well as the rights of all other minorities’ rights and freedom of religions. Bravo ! Anwar had yet to experience ISA detention yet. Maybe Anwar is under ISA list and will get himself arrest soon if he falls into their mouse traps lay out before 916.
We are very proud of Teresa Kok for her brave heroic actions to experience the blind folded ISA mental torture and interrogation for hours, pain and fear during detention period from 60 days to unlimited years. Tereas Kok is not alone, other Raja and Hindraf members are waiting for you in Kamunting Camp together with hundred mates to protect you.
Pak Lah and Syed Hamid have created a shameful black history in Malaysia by detaining the 1st woman MP under ISA for her innocent whereas the dirty politicians like Broom Toyo is using azan issue as a political tool to victimize an innocent people selected woman rep for political gain in this bulan Ramadan.
Well, if given a choice…many innocent Malaysians also want to experience ISA for a day of mental torture, fear, etc…..? Do Malaysian Mummy is under ISA black ist~? Please download the names of leaders and bloggers under ISA blacklist in UMNO-BN lead webpages to allow Malaysians well prepared in advance. Otherwise, our beloved parents, children, relatives and friends will get heart attack to witness the black Zorro men come to arrest them midnite or daylight. What say you Syed Hamid ?
Yes, thank you to our beloved government for protecting Sin Chew Tan HC life by using best ISA dragonian law. Similar Teresa Kok and Raja Petra lives are protected under ISA law against bad karmas will happen to their securities. Please explain to all Malaysians.
Does BN government uses ISA law to protect the victims of loan sharks too ? Interesting !
September 13th, 2008 at 18: 32.16
///The country has been swirling with speculation as to who else were on the ISA blacklist. Among the names mentioned were the DAP Secretary-General and Penang Chief Minister, Lim Guan Eng and myself///
Don’t worry lah YB, you can go around political business as usual, the chances are very very slim and minimal that they would ever put you and the others you mentioned under ISA!
September 13th, 2008 at 18: 35.22
Repost: YB, the rumours about Lim Guan Eng and yourself being in blacklist are speculations, it is very very unlikely,in my view, that they will put you an Opposition icon or Penang CM under ISA…
September 13th, 2008 at 18: 37.15
At this very moment, Msia is being governed by the most stupid, scariest and (dunno how to describe them).
They shouldn’t have arrested the reporter but instead give her police protection. UMNO, who has threatened to shoot her, must be arrested(The man who spoke represents UMNO).
As for Theresa Kok, even the mosque officials have vouched for her. What are they doing!!!
Damn UMNO, the cancerous cells in Msia.
September 13th, 2008 at 18: 38.35
BN will be game over soon!!!!This gov totally can’t trust.God bless Malaysia.
September 13th, 2008 at 18: 43.57
Release…Teresa Kok, RPK, Sin chew reporter Tan and ARREST AHMAD ISMAIL. Malaysia government is creating shameful show to the world EVERYDAY. The people in the world are not blind. UMNO is DICTACTOR. ARREST AHMAD ISMAIL.
September 13th, 2008 at 18: 49.19
Ruling elites control all powers of the state – police, army, media & propaganda tools, judges and interpretation of laws and of course financial resources. They can put anyone under ISA in a sweep – not just RPK, Theresa or reporter Tan but also Anwar, every Opposition leader including Nik Aziz, every Civil Society leader and every dissident but big question is : will our UMNO/BN elites do this (which they can – and who’s to stop them?) The silver lining under the cloud is that we are not at the extreme of Uganda, and our government, though undemocratic and not adverse to repressive methods when it suits their agenda, is however not Idi Amin!
September 13th, 2008 at 18: 53.43
~~MCA, Gerakan
- so called Chinese community party!
- talk loud, the end equals nothing!
Naive, childish!
M - Party letters issued? = 0!
G - People signatures activity? = 0! ~~
What’s a golden opportunity to MCA & Gerakan! Bargain power, bullets upload; key point is “will you dare, guts to challenge your boss, battle or gamble your minister title? discharge and join-venture with PR? fight for human right?” If you can’t let go and sacrifice yourself, just stop annoying, empty talking!
God bless MP Teresa Kok!
From now on, will shorten my living cost (less taxes to rare (or subsidy) those corrupted or wildlife beast), and Chinese food & beverage is my only choice! You have your choice, you know the answer, don’t you!
TQ.
Warmest regards.
September 13th, 2008 at 18: 56.46
Does the Botak think anyone will believe him when he says that the reporter was held for her own safety? If so, it doesn’t have to be under the ISA, right? Typical statement that Botak and gang uses to insult the intelligence of the rakyat.
September 13th, 2008 at 18: 57.36
Yesterday’s ISA blitz is because government elites are frightened about (1) their own factionalism & disunity fighting for power (2) fear of losing power colectively to Pakatan Rakyat, come 16/9 (3) for lack of imagination and intelligence, now falls back on well tried proven methods of 1987 playing race card to unite Malay constituency disunited because of their own factionalism, deploying half heartedly a “mini” Operation Lallang to “discipline” dissidents and bolster powers etc but esentially forgetting the vast differences in conditions in 1987 from that of 2008 for such similar methods to be of efficacy and usefulness to achieve their goals.
September 13th, 2008 at 18: 57.38
Alternatively, go : http://www.justin.tv/anwaribrahim for Light and Easy while waiting
September 13th, 2008 at 19: 02.18
I believe those at top positions of the authority have been working all their lives in order to reach their current positions, but they have all missed out the virtues to be human, their legacies to the world??? Rubbish.
Sigh…
September 13th, 2008 at 19: 02.27
Leaders please dont make Malaysian a laughing stock by the international circle. Your answers to ussage og ISA is the best comedian available in “COMEDIAN COURT”. Ha-ha-ha-ha…..(cannot stop laughing). Botak thanks for the joke.You really light up the day.
September 13th, 2008 at 19: 02.58
Dear Malaysians,
Q1) Why is it that ahmad ismail who was the one who uttered those racial words not ISA-ed but the person who reports,i.e.Ms Tan?
Q2) Why was it that it is Teresa Kok who was accused of wanting to ban azan but had vehemently denied so, ISA-ed but not the reporter or the person who so vociferously play up the issue over & over again; khir toyo
Aren’t we all Malaysians in the first place but why-oh-why this double, triple……………..standards!!!
Some people just dont learn……………………!!!!
September 13th, 2008 at 19: 03.30
In this age of reality tv shows, going through isa is like undergoing a baptism of fire.
After that one would graduate to a higher level of fear factor.
How foolish umno has been to think that isa would frighten people.
Congratulation to Tan, Kok and RPK for passing the baptism of fire with flying colours.
September 13th, 2008 at 19: 03.36
Noticed an idiot whose nickname begins with a Z (hard-core TDM supporter) still trying to paint RPK in a bad light.
The notice of arrest that was given to RPK’s wife clearly states that the first reason is his exposing the govt’s dirty linen. The part about religion is merely used as a smokescreen.
September 13th, 2008 at 19: 13.25
I, rakyat of M’sia, awaken by BN till that’s why I vote for PR!
Asked my friends, rakyat of M’sia too, don’t you understood and awaken by BN? The answer is ‘unwelcome comedy show’, not only in local, might even internationally?
916 yes or no, no problem, I/we can wait for next GE! Sure will make the most ever smartest choice! Bare in mind, repeat reminding myself, Pakatan Rakyat (PR) is my only choice and elected respectful PR MPs! Think about it, you know the answer, don’t you!
TQ.
Warmest regards.
September 13th, 2008 at 19: 20.44
apatakena,
Agree with your view on Islam - Islam is not a problem but the grossly misguided and misled in decades of politics of race and religion are a huge problem/threat to the country.
True Malaysians should protect the unique culture and traditions of ordinary bumi and ensure their best interests are fully protected for the benefit of generations to come……I believe Mr. Lim is fighting for a fairer and better society.
Humanity is not about racial survival.
September 13th, 2008 at 19: 22.50
Dear shamshul anuar, pls read this factual account of the above-mentioned event given by the late Tunku Abdul Rahman (first Prime Minister of Malaysia) during an interview at his residence in Penang in 1972
“It was clear to me as well as the police that in the highly charged political atmosphere after the police were forced to kill a Chinese political party worker on May 4th, 1969, something was bound to happen to threaten law and order because of the resentment towards the Government by the KL Chinese on the eve of the general election. This was confirmed at this man’s funeral on the 9th May when the government faced the most hostile crowd it had ever seen.
Therefore, when the opposition parties applied for a police permit for a procession to celebrate their success in the results of the general election, I was adamant against it because the police were convinced that this would lead to trouble. I informed Tun Razak about this and he seemed to agree.
Now, without my knowledge and actually “behind my back”, there were certain political leaders in high positions who were working to force me to step down as a PM. I don’t want to go into details but if they had come to me and said so I would gladly have retired gracefully.
Unfortunately, they were apparently scheming and trying to decide on the best way to force me to resign. The occasion came when the question of the police permit was to be approved.
Tun Razak and Harun Idris, the MB of the state of Selangor, now felt that permission should be given, knowing fully well that there was a likelihood of trouble. I suppose they felt that when this happened they could then demand my resignation.
To this day I find it very hard to believe that Razak, whom I had known for so many years, would agree to work against me in this way. Actually he was in my house, as I was preparing to return to Kedah, and I overhead him speaking to Harun over the phone saying that he would be willing to approve the permit when I left. I really could not believe what I was hearing and preferred to think it was about some other permit. In any case, as the Deputy Prime Minister, in my absence from KL, he would be the Acting PM and would override my objection.
Accordingly, when I was in my home in Kedah, I heard over the radio that the permit had been approved.
It seems as though the expected trouble was anticipated and planned for by Harun and his UMNO Youth. After the humiliating insults hurled by the non-Malays, especially the Chinese, and after the seeming loss of Malay political power to them, they were clearly ready for some retaliatory action.
After meeting in large numbers at Harun’s official residence in Jalan Raja Muda near Kampong Bahru, and hearing inflammatory speeches by Harun and other leaders, they prepared themselves by tying ribbon strips on their foreheads and set out to kill Chinese. The first hapless victims were two of them in a van opposite Harun’s house who were innocently watching the large gathering. Little did they know that they would be killed on the spot.
The rest is history. I am sorry but I must end this discussion now because it really pains me as the Father of Merdeka to have to relive those terrible moments. I have often wondered why God made me live long enough to have witnessed my beloved Malays and Chinese citizens killing each other.”
This was a conspiracy at the highest level and nothing short of a power struggle, with the ‘Young Turks’ then forming the pressure group. To achieve their ends, they very cleverly used race to make the Malays rise and push the Tengku aside.
Today, they are doing it again. This is dangerous politics. It may backfire and, instead, it may make the Malays rise against the non-Malays, like what happened in 1969 — a fire raging out of control with no fire extinguisher in sight.
We must never allow our country to be turned into a racial battlefield again. Let politics be issues concerning policies, civil rights, good governance and justice. Let us not allow anyone to bring race and religion into our politics lest we suffer the fate of many countries around us where mass murders of entire families are made in the name of ‘bangsa’ and ‘agama’.
September 13th, 2008 at 19: 26.25
Can we ask for temperory “UN SANCTION” again the errant Malaysia Government for violating democracy and its constitution?!
I rather closed shop or even bankrup for once and for all. This madness must be stop!
September 13th, 2008 at 19: 27.10
The saving grace is that although this government does twist and tweak the system here and there for its convenience, however it still plays by broad parameters of constitution and sovereignty of parliament and therefore is committed (so far) not just to perpetuate but - here’s the key - to legitimise its continued mandate to rule and govern…and by virtue thereof there are limits, intangible and shifting though they may be, to their exercise of the absolute powers that they may already have. There is a reason in this restraint : though feudal, ours is crony capitalism and making money through politics and public service is raison de etre for entering politics and hence it represents both our scourge in one sense in that it breeds endemic corruption as well as our saving grace in another sense in that if our elites behave like Idi Amin or Mugabe, they can say goodbye to economic development, investments, MSC and all kinds of corridors, so how to whet bloated appetites??? So there are limits to powers : they are subject to legitimacy of mandate and rule before both domestic and international audience; they have to justify what they do and why they adopt certain repressive measures like incarcerating A, B or C etc - and this is where our advantage lies.
The advantage : every repressive action by govt will be countered by civil society’s, bloggers’, NGO’s Oppositions’ criticism and resistance, the latter group having proliferated and impacted public opinion in a way never seen before during TDM’s operation Lallang in 1987.
So the channel of discourse - and contestation of views - still exist (esp in present ICT Age).
For so long as Govt still need to seek legitimacy of rule and hence legitimate excuses for what it does (no matter how bull shit) the opposite side can equally contest, argue and dispute (and still escape repression if they tread carefully away from mine fields of issues bearing directly on inciting race and religion).
In such a contestation, the latter group of civil society, bloggers, Oppositions and NGOs will more likely win because they draw from a greater reservoir of competent, capable and intelligent people as opposed to the government. This adds another brake to limits of the otherwise absolute powers of the state wielded by ruling elites. I will later cite some examples how this is the case in relation to the 3 recently arrested under ISA and how Tan is
already released, Theresa will also soon be released (though RPK’s case is bit more dicey) which all goes to show the relative incompetence of the government to inititate something that it cannot follow through in the face of protest and arguments from civil society, bloggers, Oppositions and NGOs.
September 13th, 2008 at 19: 28.38
Syed Hamid chose to arrest 2 Chinese girls under ISA in the hope to set up a crash between the Chinese and the Malays.
But make no mistake, the Chinese are not against the Malays and the Malays are not against the Chinese.
The truth is that Malaysians of all races & religions are sick and tired of being FOOLED around by RUTHLESS UMNO politicians playing race & religious politics.
Syed Hamid is unfit to be our home minister!!!!!
September 13th, 2008 at 19: 35.47
I Vow for UN SANCTION if this is what it takes, i want this crooks gets nothing from us, they just want political power for wealth.
If UN SANCTION is the only way to stop their madness from saving our comrades and more damage to be done, i would ask for nothing more. Let us all embrace!
September 13th, 2008 at 19: 37.50
Malaysiakini says Anwar is seeking an appointment with the prime minister as soon as possible to discuss the ISA arrests.
He also said that Pakatan’s Sept 16 plan would not be deferred as it was unrelated to the ISA arrests. So if Pakatan’s Sept 16 plan would not be deferred what is the reason the PM should grant Anwar an audience? What has Anwar to offer the PM - a chance to defect (since its UMNO warlords are pushing himout)?????
Anwar - very imaginative!
September 13th, 2008 at 19: 39.32
He wants until 2010, Anwar can be DPM until then.
September 13th, 2008 at 19: 42.14
This year Mid-autumn festival will be remembered…
The delicious Mooncakes has had it role in toppling the Mongolian regime of the Yuen Dynasty.
Now, the rakyat wanted to see the toppling of the hopeless BN government.
September 13th, 2008 at 19: 44.41
Yesterday PM said the government will not use the ISA without concrete reason but Tan Hoon Cheng was arrested last night due to threat to her life according to Syed Hamid. Naahh.. to you AAB. You are demanded to release Teresa Kok immediately.
September 13th, 2008 at 19: 45.24
Sorry off topic
From CheDet.com 13/12/2008
///6. I hate to make this comparison but in Israel the Prime Minister has been accused of corruption and the police carried out an investigation and found there was a case for the Prime Minister to be charged. Will we see this in our Malaysia?///—TDM
TDM is obviously saying that the government of Israel did the correct thing, and he is raising a question whether Malaysia too would do the same. (It is quite refreshing that TDM would find anything good to say about Israel. Perhaps for burning the mosquito, born enemy could be ally; it goes to show how much TDM love Abdullah, and both belong to the same race!).
When Hussein Onn was the PM, he put Harun Idris behind bar for corruption. Hussein Onn did not practice race-based politics though he was a president of a race-based party. The person guilty was a Malay just like Hussein, but the law did not check the race and religion of the person who violated it. Beginning from TDM’s reign, and after the sacking of Tun Saleh Abas, the law had been used to protect TDM’s political power, and that was extended to his cronies. AAB has extended the use of race-based politics further. He used the party rule as excuse for sparing the offending party member from the law, but he resorted to ISA on a whistle blower belonging to another race. That was the balancing act in which TDM claimed that he was an expert.
No, what TDM asked would not happen in Malaysia. It seems the former Prime Minister is above the law, and how can one expect it to happen to the sitting one?
///7. There was a case involving a deputy minister who was accused of taking a bribe of 5 million ringgit. The Attorney-General said there was no case as the person alleged to have bribed the deputy minister denied that he gave any money.///– TDM
There were 18 sharks which should have been charged under ACA during TDM’s watch but only two ikan bilis were hauled in by AAB. The AG did not even bother to explain why during TDM’s reign.
///8. Perhaps if the ACA asks the PM whether he had given any money to delegations from UMNO branches, he may deny it or give some spurious explanations. Will the ACA then conclude there is no case for the Prime Minister to answer?!///—TDM
The ACA knows better the answer and would not even bother to ask. When there is no question, surely the PM has no case to answer.
September 13th, 2008 at 19: 45.44
I have a lot of respect for SAPP president Datuk Yong Teck Lee.
For he is a brave man to speak and act for his people in Sabah.
As a contrast, look at the losers from Gerakan and MCA. If AMNO has really been derailed from original belief, then simple, walk away.
Be a man for once.
But of course, these people have too many dirty secrets in AMNO’s hands which complicates the matters.
Face it now if I were you, everything will surface when BN loses power anyway.
September 13th, 2008 at 19: 49.17
“According to Special Branch, Teresa was detained for causing ‘racial tension’, and she is now a “national threat”.
http://sloone.wordpress.com/2008/09/13/updates-on-isa-arrests/
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Toyo started this so called ‘racial tension’ and during the course of YB Teresa Kok’s duty & upon discovering such danger that could cause racial riots, she quickly extinguished the fire together with the help of Islamic authority (mosque). Her action should be highly commended. Istead Syed Hamid turned around and ARRESTED her. What LOGIC?????
I’m glad MB of Selangor is now taking her case to the Sultan.
Syed Hamid, when will you stop bullying the helpless rakyat??????
September 13th, 2008 at 19: 58.58
since when the ISA is for “protecting the safety of someone” ??
i am as blur as the “blur blur” agri tour.
September 13th, 2008 at 20: 01.21
To flex the ISA at this juncture of Malaysian politics is one way for AAB to show the real power he can unleash. There the intense pschyop of 916, TDm return, and a pricky need to remind the intactness of the NEP. Flexing the ISA is no doubt a two edge sword at best, but what else can AAB flex that in one go taunts authority?
No one favors the ISA. Not even AAB for the global repurcussions to follow is as sure as the sun rises in the east tomorrow. But AAB has to run the gauntlet of this 916, and he needed body armor.
For all these, I beleive the flexing is now over, 24 hrs after the first one. And there are signs the detention for RPK and Kok could be ended soon enough.
September 13th, 2008 at 20: 18.37
RPK I can understand but why did the govt choose to show their strength on a petite lady reporter and a lady MP?
If the PM is trying to put some fear into his political enemies (who are from his own party), shouldn’t Ahmad Ismail and Khir Toyo be detained and with good reasons too?
Teresa Kok may be to warn off the opposition from 16/9 but stopping at one doesn’t do the job. A hard working, popular lady MP isn’t the best choice to make an example of. She’s obviously going to get lot’s of sympathy.
Ms Tan was obviously a bad mistake and has been released.
Was it a show of strength but on the wrong victims? Maybe Jeffrey Q.C. can analyze this?
September 13th, 2008 at 20: 19.41
gofortruth Says:
Today at 19: 49.17 (17 minutes ago)
Toyo started this so called ‘racial tension’ and during the course of YB Teresa Kok’s duty & upon discovering such danger that could cause racial riots, she quickly extinguished the fire together with the help of Islamic authority (mosque). Her action should be highly commended. Istead Syed Hamid turned around and ARRESTED her. What LOGIC?????
I’m glad MB of Selangor is now taking her case to the Sultan.
Syed Hamid, when will you stop bullying the helpless rakyat??????
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Theres no logic within Malaysian Govern this days, anything they do just to protect their own goods, allegedly acused a person without fact and evidence but his sinful act of course.
You Syed hamid you’re disgrace to muslim and you discriminate your own faith for political gain. Shame on you, you should be put inside the bars and burn in hell!
September 13th, 2008 at 20: 21.07
If the police were to protect Teresa Kok, they could have send some unit over to Teresa’s place to protect her instead of detained her forcefully under ISA… where’s the logic?
Is our Agong/Sultans sleeping? Why no word or sound regarding these unlawful arrest from them? Every year we spend so much tax money to pay for the royal family expenses, isn’t this the right time they repay us? Instead of sitting at the palace doing nothing.
September 13th, 2008 at 20: 29.43
Let us pray for the release of those who care for the well being of rakyat, and see that justice is done with more drastic punishments to those who turn againt Him and use His name for their selfish ends. Believe in Him and have faith in Him!
September 13th, 2008 at 20: 31.25
I just saw Syed Albar’s press conference on the arrest fof Tan.
It is the most blatant bare face lying I have ever seen. Instead of admitting a mistake, he turned around and gave excuses as reasons that insulted the professionalism of the police as well.
What a good liar!
September 13th, 2008 at 20: 34.45
Well PR is getting stronger and stronger with the craps happened these days by this Bee Ending who play Bee Ending Movie in Malaysian Block Busterrr Movie ….
PR will continue to arise….to voice the suara rakyat…..
September 13th, 2008 at 20: 35.03
AAB panicked, and so he made stupid mistakes.
Syed is a laughing stock. First he arrested someone for threat to national security, next said he did it to protect her. Come on, step down b4 u make more stupid mistake. How can Malaysia has this type of leaders? Shame on Malaysia.
September 13th, 2008 at 20: 36.20
It is an old tool in UMNO’s tool bag.
When everything else fails, stir up racial sentiments on emotional issues. If there is none, create one. Use agent-provocateurs to help create a situation when public order is threatened. Then declare a state of emergency and suspend Parliament. Have the Cabinet replaced by a council to include representatives from the Armed Forces to give a semblance that the country’s public order and national security is under threat.
Round up key politicians and political activists and detain them without charge for as long as possible. Let things simmer down. People forget and life goes back to where it was.
Sounds familiar?
We have passed that! The issue now is what do we do? Do we let them go down the same path as they did once before? Have more petitions signed? Call on the people to remain calm? Do nothing. Malaysians are a patient and docile lot - practical too because when their economic livelihood is threatened, they abandon their struggle for freedom in droves. They rationalise that freedom cannot help feed their families but a stable economy does.
When will we learn as Malaysians that there are certain things in life that matter more than bread and butter?
September 13th, 2008 at 20: 44.52
The star online published :-
Home Minister Datuk Seri Syed Hamid said he did not order the arrests of the three people under the Internal Security Act (ISA.
He said the action was taken by the police themselves under Section 73(1) based on their assessment of the current situation as they had “strong and good reason” to believe that conflict could happen and public order could be jeopardised. ”
Now, isn’t the Home Minister held resposible for actions by police ? I thought the ISA order need to have signature from Home Minister or PM. Correct me if I am wrong ….
Or else, another case of flying kite !!!
September 13th, 2008 at 20: 48.00
A Malaysian Joke:
The one who started the fire go away scotch free.
The one who reported that there was a fire got ISAed.
It can only happen in Malaysia, i.e. Malaysia Boleh!
September 13th, 2008 at 20: 50.58
I find Jeffrey’s speculation on the reason why Anwar is seeking an appointment with the PM most intriguing. Indeed, why should the PM agree to see Anwar?
Could he be the super-mole in BN?
This would explain all the flip-flops and blunders including the latest ISA detentions which can only facilitate Pakatan’s Sept 16 plan.
Is this the surprise Anwar promised for Sept 16? A bit far-fetched but…:)
September 13th, 2008 at 20: 52.00
previous blockade of access roadto Parliament now …. aiyah … total failure …. PM mentioned a thorough investigation needed to be done before ISA is executed on them. Now … do you mean you need to arrest all witnesses under ISA to protect them from threats ? I don’t see any logic.
Khir Toyo’s accusations on the alleged interference by YB Kok on Mosque issue had been denied by the relevent religious authority. Futhermore, it’s a petition on loudness of Azan by residents. Have the police run a detailed investigation ? or simply took the short cut by browsing through Khir’s blog ? Can YB Kok’s lawyer access these details ?
September 13th, 2008 at 20: 53.22
So far all our criticism has been leveled at Abdullah Badawi as if he alone is responsible. In fact it shows to the contrary i.e. that he is not solely responsible. He is not the main player in a power game fast spinning out of control. He is just a mouthpiece for extremist elements from within his party who are fighting for their survival.
We have known that all along. Why then don’t we use what we know to pitch the two camps against each other and by so doing work to hasten the process i.e. force the hands of these leaders to go for each others jugular.
September 13th, 2008 at 20: 56.26
“So if Pakatan’s Sept 16 plan would not be deferred what is the reason the PM should grant Anwar an audience? What has Anwar to offer the PM …” Jeffrey
Jeffery has a fertile imagination, given to discussing hypotheticals.
September 13th, 2008 at 21: 05.07
the bodoh sounds like he’s gonna expire soon during the press conference
September 13th, 2008 at 21: 08.40
Couldn’t agree more with undergrade2, the ISA arrests were dupped up with ‘evil-sible hands’ behind the racial issue incited by Ahmad Ismail. An evil agreement was reached by the ‘evil-sible hands’ with Ahmad to blow the racial issue out of proportion and wait for the response and start the rounding-up. Ahmad Ismail is not alone! The whole ‘evil-sible hands’ are behind him to plan the evil deeds !