ISA + Syed H Al bab = Ini Semua Auta + Sytan Hantu Arab
well keeping it short and simple folks.

DO WE WANT THAT?

WHO WOULD JOIN ME TO OPPOSE SUCH TERRORISM!

Assuming that RPK has insulted Islam, which I do not agree as I have read and re-read his allegedly offending articles and did not find those offending, my view is that the most important message or teaching in any religion or of God is humility. To be truly humble is to be truly great. Vice versa, to be great is to be humble. God has always ask us to be humble and to forgive in the face of criticisms and insult. I am a Christian and I speak from the Christian perspective but I think that perspective is shared by Islam. Jesus was persecuted, tortured and hanged. And his last words about his persecutors were, “Father, forgive them for they know not what they are doing”. I believe your God also asks you to be humble and to be forgiving. Would you say that He would be angry or take offence when insulted and ask or allow you or His believers to arrest or punish the person who allegedly insulted Him? Would you make Him lesser than His teaching?

I believe in the Greatness of your God. I believe in the Great Mercy of your God. I believe He wants you also to be humble so as to be great, to forgive so as to be merciful. I don’t think a Great Wise Merciful God would sanction the incarceration and punishment of anyone who may seem to have insulted Him. Being merciful, He would say “Forgive him for he does not know what he is saying” and He would find ways to bring that offender back to Him in His own Merciful way for I think the greatest happiness for God would be the salvation of a soul, for another “sinner” to have come back to Him.

We mortals have no right to pass a religious judgment on another for we are all sinners in our own ways, sins being just a matter of degree, and while we can try to convince, persuade and cajol a fellow brother to go back to the ways of God, all matters of religion should be left to God and that man. I do not think that God is so helpless that He requires mortals to protect Him and His teachings. Because He is God and we mere mortals, He will protect us and preserve His teachings forever and ever. We mortals would be most offensive to Him if we start to play God.

Understood? This is only a personal opinion and should not be taken to be an insult to you or your God. I respect Islam and your right to believe in Islam. Let that be very clear. Having said that, I think most right thinking Malaysians have no problems with the true teachings of Islam which is one of the greatest and perhaps the most popular religion of the world. Only some God-playing mortals have put Islam in a bad light and that is not only truly regrettable and definitely painful to God but has the even more regrettable effect or result of making many shy away from Islam. Would not that be more offensive and insulting to your God?

My view is that RPK has been arrested for a political reason for he is one of the greatest factor in the sinking of UMNO but a religious reason was put forth as an aberration to hide the real reason and to appease or to hookwink the Malay Muslims or to provide a more noble justification to incarcerate him. This is cowardice at its best.

I think the greatest mistake of the UMNO mad leaders is that they think we Malaysians, Malays or not, are stupid. They think they can lie to all or most of the people all the time and still be victorious. They think the the country belongs to them. They think that they can get away with any atrocities. They think that they and only they are capable of managing this country.

zak_hammaad, you and I know it is time we stop these bandits from further sending us and our country to hell. I truly hope and pray that your God will touch you so that you will be humbled to acknowledge the Truth and condemn, reject and eject the totally corrupted ones for the sake of our common destiny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzcKdf7N6v4

Are we going to take this issue lying down? NO!!! Are we going to pray and hope that the hopes and dreams towards freedom of speech will stay alive for our fellow Malaysians as well as the release of Raja Petra? YES!!! We condemn the arrest of RPK.

Surely the government is playing dirty. Chaos we will have when fools govern the country.

If we were to fail this time, we will do it again in another time. I am sure there must be one time that we can succeed.

Anwar, LKS, Guan Eng and non-UMNO members, be very, very careful in what you say.

ISA is only for non-UMNO, where’s the justice?

Ahmad Ismail should be the first to be detained under ISA.

KEMAMAN, Sept 12 (Bernama) – Blogger Raja Petra Kamarudin’s detention under the Internal Security Act (ISA) is appropriate as his articles, which allegedly ridiculed Islam and Prophet Muhammad, could stoke anger among Muslims worldwide, Information Minister Datuk Ahmad Shabery Cheek said.

He said the government had to act as the blogger’s action had touched the sensitivities among Muslims and could undermine national security.

“I hope that Malaysians will look at this positively as the detention is not because the government is against freedom of expression, but rather, it’s because the freedom has been abused.

“The blogger has allowed statements which insulted Prophet Muhammad and this is a very sensitive thing to Muslims in the country and worldwide,” he told reporters after breaking fast at the Felda Neram Satu Mosque near here.

He was commenting on Raja Petra’s detention under the ISA for his article “I promise to be a good, non-hypocritical Muslim” which contained sentences that ridiculed Muslims besides allowing a commentary which ridiculed Islam and Prophet Muhammad with reference to the article “Not all Arabs are descendants of the Prophet” published in the “Malaysia Today” blog.

Commenting further, Ahmad Shabery said the government did not want Raja Petra’s action to go the extent of antagonising Muslims worldwide the way the publication of Prophet Muhammad carricature by a Danish daily or the production of the film “Fitna” by a Dutch politician did.

“I hope Muslims in the country support the government’s move which serve as a stern warning to whoever is abusing the freedom of expression by allowing people to write, express opinion or make statements that could hurt the feelings of members of a particular faith.

“The government does not want articles written by people in the country to cause anger among Muslims worldwide,” he said.

In a related development, he said the government’s move to free up access to websites or blogs was to allow freedom of expression.

However, if the sites had postings that could cause racial and religious tension, the government would have no choice but to take action against the bloggers to protect the interest of others, he said.

“In principle, they (the bloggers) are free to write of express opinion… it’s just that they should not abuse that freedom,” he said.- BERNAMA

Anyway, back to the news at hand:

KUALA LUMPUR, Sept 12 (Bernama) — Deputy Inspector-General of Police Tan Sri Ismail Omar said blogger Raja Petra Raja Kamarudin was arrested Friday under the Internal Security Act (ISA) after police found his actions to be a threat to national security.

In a statement issued here Friday, he said the arrest of the ‘Malaysia Today’ website operator was made after police were satisfied with the evidence from their monitoring of Raja Petra’s blogging activities.

“Our monitoring shows that his actions could cause tension among the country’s multi-racial and multi-religious society.

“He had to be detained to enable police to conduct further investigation into his actions,” Ismail said.

He added that Raja Petra’s detention was also to curb actions that could cause disunity and religious conflicts among the races.

According to the statement, Raja Petra was arrested under Section 73 (1) of the ISA 1960, at his house, No. 5, Jalan BRP 5/5, Bukit Rahman Putra, Sungai Buloh, Selangor at about 1.10pm Friday.

Let’s do something to show our solitude with RPK & family. Best is some NGO to do it. Otherwise BN will politicise it as they like to politicise everything from pig farm to automatic toilets.

but maybe we are really dumb and blind…still they are others more dumb and more blind….

heck is there such a thing as more stupid than stupid.

perhaps confused and disorientated seem an apt feeling…..who ? …you or me.

Memang tidak adil, dan kata-kata yang mencetuskan ketidakharmornian antara berunsul jenis perkauman yang patut kita tegur ….

Apajua, undi saya tetap kepada Pakatan Rakyat, kepada PKR, kepada DAP, kepada PAS, kepada mana-mana parti yang betul-betul berjuang untuk semua lapisan masyarakat…………. dan saya tegaskan disini…
dalam sepanjang hayat dan dulu jugak selepas berlayak membuat undi dalam pilihanraya, UNDI SAYA TETAP PADA PAKATAN RAKYAT, PKR, DAP, PAS……………..

HIDUP PAKATAN RAKYAT HIDUP ERA BARU….

HIDUP MALAYSIA YANG MILIK KEPADA SEMUA LAPISAN MASYARAKAT….

HIDUP PKR, PAS, DAP……………….

HIDUP SEPT 16 2008 AGAR MENUJU KE ARAH BARU, DAN TETAP SAYA SOKONG PAKATAN RAKYAT, WALAUPUN

RPK interned under ISA! This is a lesson to all those who dare to instigate hatred and racial divides -zak_hammaad

This sentence implied that he believed that RPK was ISA’ed because RPK was instigating racial hatred.

“WRONG. His arrest is in connection to his insulting posts on Islam, and not the political palaver that we are so used to.” -zak_hammaad

But then later he specifically answers that RPK was ISA’ed because of insulting Islam.

Zak. Stop using so many fancy words. I think you are confusing yourself.

RPK was ISA’ed under the pretext of insulting Islam, so why you bother to talk about ‘RPK instigating racial divide’ when RPK has always been calling for racial unity?

You keep dropping all sorts of suggestive comments then quickly change your tune when it becomes blatantly obvious that only a moron would believe it.

DETAIN THEM ALL INCLUDING AAB/KERISMAN and NAJIS!!!

“Institutionalised racism to the core.

And you can thank the NEP for that! No one denies that the status quo needs to change, but it is how this change must come that will determine the smoothness or recklessness of the transition.”

I think we should not just dismiss zak_hammaad as coming from the enemy camp and therefore not to be friendly with. I may have been wrong to state earlier that zak_hammaad should just be ignored.

The question is indeed not whether the status quo has to be changed. It has to be changed for many obvious reasons and for the benefits of all, even the Malays. The issue is how we change. And that is zak_hammaad’s stand and I think we should respect the sensibility of that stand. It is no use shouting and ranting for a change without stopping to think about how to go about doing that. Oft-time, I think there are merits in the criticism levied against Obama that he is more rhetoric than real. Change is an attractive war-cry. But what and how is another thing altogether.

The fear amongst many Malays is that once PR takes over the helm of government, they will be replaced by and have to fend for themselves against the more successful non-Malays. Amongst the non-Malays, the fear is that if sufficient number of Malays have the same fear and suspicion against the non-Malays, a civil strife would erupt.

Any change therefore must be incremental and gradual. Like a serious medical problem, the healing must be gradual and be allowed to take its natural course.

That is why I feel sometimes that the PR should just for now until the next GE focus on doing a good job in the 5 states that they are now controlling than to have this ambitious plan to take over the governance of the whole country in the next few days. Already we are more and more convinced by the good job done in Perak, Selangor and Penang. I see no reason why the PR cannot take Negeri Sembilan and maybe even Johor and Pahang in the next GE.

Stay in the opposition for a while yet, form a shadow cabinet, get down to the business of providing checks and balances, curb the excesses, expose the corruption and cheating, let democracy run its natural course. That is what the PR should do now in Federal politics and not create so much uncertainty by wanting a quick take-over of the Federal Government. However, if they really are able to do so, then do so quickly. But after having taken over, I think they should call for a GE as soon as practicable to have the endorsement of and hence legitimacy from the people. I think Sivarasa of the PKR has announced that the PR will call for a GE after they have taken over the right to govern.

It will not be easy to list down one by one what you would do if you are in power. It would be better if for a while you stay in the opposite camp and state what you would have done in real issues and situations which have cropped up. What would you have done in the body snatching cases? What would you have done to people like Ahmad Ismail? What would you have done to the quota for Malays in the public universities? Do you scrap that immediately when you get into power or would it be a gradual process? What about the requirements to have a certain percentage of bumiputra contractors or sub-contractors in government or other projects?

What I am saying is that there are many things which have to be reversed. How are we to do those? I think it may be best if the PR will tell us step by step, gradually, as the real issues and situation arise. And the PR will be able to do that best when they are still in the opposition. I do not want to jump from the frying pan into the fire. I am not even sure that the DAP can work with PAS and hold together the PR. I want more proof of the permanence and the workability of the marriage between DAP and PAS.

At the same time, as I have said before, the BN government has become really, really disgusting and intolerable. We are all caught in a very unenviable position. What we all hope for is a quick solution so that we can quickly get back to business as usual and to build up this nation again. I am sure there are many like me who are mired in a deep dilemma as to what is best for the nation. It is time to stop the rhetoric and the emotional outburst and comments and to start thinking about how best to effect the changes that are so obviously needed while maintaining peace and order.

Having demos is not the answer as the Armed Forces Chief has already sounded a dire warning about public security.
Just remember not to have more than 3 persons in a group as the law states you require a police permit.

Adam Yong makes some of the more sensible comments here and we should not be trying to stir unrest. Let’s support PR’s quest peacefully.