Comments on: Power transfer at national level – matter of time http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/11/power-transfer-at-national-level-matter-of-time/ for Malaysia Sun, 12 Feb 2012 06:45:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: waterfrontcoolie http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/11/power-transfer-at-national-level-matter-of-time/comment-page-1/#comment-133216 waterfrontcoolie Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:04:55 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/11/power-transfer-at-national-level-matter-of-time/#comment-133216 Zak., you seem blind to all the corruptions being openly practised by your great meglomania. No one is saying that the poor Bumis should not be given help. this includes Bumis in East Malaysia. You seem to think that the Bumis in Sabah and Sarawak have no rights. Hence BN keeps the Aug.31th celebration. It should be Sept.16th the date they joined Malaysia as equal partners. You keep talking of Bumis' rights but in reality you know UMNO had taken all the BUMIS for a long hard ride!! And you keep talking as if nothing had happened!! Zak., you seem blind to all the corruptions being openly practised by your great meglomania. No one is saying that the poor Bumis should not be given help. this includes Bumis in East Malaysia. You seem to think that the Bumis in Sabah and Sarawak have no rights. Hence BN keeps the Aug.31th celebration. It should be Sept.16th the date they joined Malaysia as equal partners. You keep talking of Bumis’ rights but in reality you know UMNO had taken all the BUMIS for a long hard ride!! And you keep talking as if nothing had happened!!

]]> By: zak_hammaad http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/11/power-transfer-at-national-level-matter-of-time/comment-page-1/#comment-132984 zak_hammaad Fri, 12 Sep 2008 08:03:38 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/11/power-transfer-at-national-level-matter-of-time/#comment-132984 You may also like to check the latest offering from the old man: test.chedet.com/che_det/2008/09/the-social-contract-3.html#more You may also like to check the latest offering from the old man: test.chedet.com/che_det/2008/09/the-social-contract-3.html#more

]]> By: zak_hammaad http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/11/power-transfer-at-national-level-matter-of-time/comment-page-1/#comment-132946 zak_hammaad Fri, 12 Sep 2008 07:16:46 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/11/power-transfer-at-national-level-matter-of-time/#comment-132946 swipenter, as I wrote at length before, the "social contract in Malaysia" refers to the agreement made by the country's founding fathers in the Constitution. Therefore the social contract is part of the constitution that you read today. It refers to a quid pro quo trade-off through Articles 14–18 of the Constitution, pertaining to the granting of citizenship to the non-Malay people of Malaysia, and Article 153, which grants the Malays special rights and privileges (in particular political control). You may feel free to read upon it from a both points of view, those who support it and those who criticise it; make your own informed conclusions. swipenter, as I wrote at length before, the “social contract in Malaysia” refers to the agreement made by the country’s founding fathers in the Constitution. Therefore the social contract is part of the constitution that you read today. It refers to a quid pro quo trade-off through Articles 14–18 of the Constitution, pertaining to the granting of citizenship to the non-Malay people of Malaysia, and Article 153, which grants the Malays special rights and privileges (in particular political control).

You may feel free to read upon it from a both points of view, those who support it and those who criticise it; make your own informed conclusions.

]]> By: monreddy http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/11/power-transfer-at-national-level-matter-of-time/comment-page-1/#comment-132943 monreddy Fri, 12 Sep 2008 07:14:48 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/11/power-transfer-at-national-level-matter-of-time/#comment-132943 We're just around da corner and BeeNd just going Bananas ! Dying moments - managed to get rpk in da net. Never falter from our divine aim of transition towards Pakatan Rakyat Government. Lets all spread the message to the public - to prevent any distortion of msm. Salute Pakatan Rakyat Leaders for your Bravery, Smartwork, Teamwork, Strong Heart, Persistence, Strong Willpower and Execution for the Benefit of all Rakyat, for the Rakyat ! Keep it up Guys ! May the Supreme GOD Bless you all and the repressed, depressed and oppressed Rakyat with Good Health, Abundant Optimism, Unwavering Stamina - much needed for the final stages of our last lap !!! GOD Bless the King & Queen ! GOD Bless Pakatan Rakyat !!! We’re just around da corner and BeeNd just going Bananas ! Dying moments – managed to get rpk in da net.
Never falter from our divine aim of transition towards Pakatan Rakyat Government. Lets all spread the message to the public – to prevent any distortion of msm. Salute Pakatan Rakyat Leaders for your Bravery, Smartwork, Teamwork, Strong Heart, Persistence, Strong Willpower and Execution for the Benefit of all Rakyat, for the Rakyat !
Keep it up Guys ! May the Supreme GOD Bless you all and the repressed, depressed and oppressed Rakyat with Good Health, Abundant Optimism, Unwavering Stamina – much needed for the final stages of our last lap !!!

GOD Bless the King & Queen !
GOD Bless Pakatan Rakyat !!!

]]> By: zak_hammaad http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/11/power-transfer-at-national-level-matter-of-time/comment-page-1/#comment-132930 zak_hammaad Fri, 12 Sep 2008 07:00:03 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/11/power-transfer-at-national-level-matter-of-time/#comment-132930 dawsheng Says: >> Go and jump Zak! As they say, if you can't stand the heat... :^) dawsheng Says:

>> Go and jump Zak!

As they say, if you can’t stand the heat…

:^)

]]> By: swipenter http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/11/power-transfer-at-national-level-matter-of-time/comment-page-1/#comment-132836 swipenter Fri, 12 Sep 2008 03:26:31 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/11/power-transfer-at-national-level-matter-of-time/#comment-132836 Can anyone give me a copy of the SOCIAL CONTRACT so that I can sweep it under the carpet. I am not able to get hold of a copy after looking high and low. Thank you in advance. Can anyone give me a copy of the SOCIAL CONTRACT so that I can sweep it under the carpet. I am not able to get hold of a copy after looking high and low. Thank you in advance.

]]> By: taiking http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/11/power-transfer-at-national-level-matter-of-time/comment-page-1/#comment-132834 taiking Fri, 12 Sep 2008 02:59:56 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/11/power-transfer-at-national-level-matter-of-time/#comment-132834 Visionary politicians. Are they important? Must the leader of a country be visionary? Is Gordon Brown a visionary? And Bush jr? What about Rudd, the chap from the land of "So where the hell are you?". I dont think such expression has ever been used to describe these people. And if my memory serves me well, certainly throughout the recently just ended primaries in America none of the 4 presidential hopefuls ever described him/her self as being visionary. If being visionary is to be regarded as a positive attribute of a person, then to my mind it would stand as an attribute of the indefinite and indeterminable sort. In other words, it lies more on the wishy washy side of what people would recognise as good attributes. Being visionary means having the ability to foresee - the ability to predict what lies ahead in terms of time. That that is an advantage is undeniable. However, this obviously logical concession of mine is founded upon an important assumption - the same assumption which people often were not mindful of. The ability to foresee will not by or of itself turn into an advantage. Efforts are needed before any advantage can be gleaned from foresight. And appropriate actions are crucial. The ability to do the correct thing, the courage and the determination that go with it, are paramount. In the absence of this one other attribute, the ability to foresee will just lie like piece of useless tool, disused and used. And the world is certainly not short of such tools for anyone and everyone can be visionary - just serve him some coffee. It is no different from the public speaker who emerge from beneath one's skin after several pints of lager. Visionary politicians. Are they important? Must the leader of a country be visionary? Is Gordon Brown a visionary? And Bush jr? What about Rudd, the chap from the land of “So where the hell are you?”. I dont think such expression has ever been used to describe these people. And if my memory serves me well, certainly throughout the recently just ended primaries in America none of the 4 presidential hopefuls ever described him/her self as being visionary.

If being visionary is to be regarded as a positive attribute of a person, then to my mind it would stand as an attribute of the indefinite and indeterminable sort. In other words, it lies more on the wishy washy side of what people would recognise as good attributes.

Being visionary means having the ability to foresee – the ability to predict what lies ahead in terms of time. That that is an advantage is undeniable. However, this obviously logical concession of mine is founded upon an important assumption – the same assumption which people often were not mindful of.

The ability to foresee will not by or of itself turn into an advantage. Efforts are needed before any advantage can be gleaned from foresight. And appropriate actions are crucial. The ability to do the correct thing, the courage and the determination that go with it, are paramount.

In the absence of this one other attribute, the ability to foresee will just lie like piece of useless tool, disused and used. And the world is certainly not short of such tools for anyone and everyone can be visionary – just serve him some coffee. It is no different from the public speaker who emerge from beneath one’s skin after several pints of lager.

]]> By: Khairy Jamaluddin http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/11/power-transfer-at-national-level-matter-of-time/comment-page-1/#comment-132808 Khairy Jamaluddin Thu, 11 Sep 2008 22:59:14 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/11/power-transfer-at-national-level-matter-of-time/#comment-132808 zak_hammaad Says: <> I don't see Hindraf as a threat, do you? zak_hammaad Says:

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I don’t see Hindraf as a threat, do you?

]]> By: sotong http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/11/power-transfer-at-national-level-matter-of-time/comment-page-1/#comment-132805 sotong Thu, 11 Sep 2008 22:17:11 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/11/power-transfer-at-national-level-matter-of-time/#comment-132805 “Today, we do not have visionaries. We have selfish inward looking bigots who claim to be speaking for others when no one identifies with their cause, each fighting for their own political agendas.” - Zak Go and jump Zak! -dawsheng. dawsheng, I think if Zak refers to leaders in position of trust, power and influence, his assessment is fairly reasonable. “Today, we do not have visionaries. We have selfish inward looking bigots who claim to be speaking for others when no one identifies with their cause, each fighting for their own political agendas.” – Zak

Go and jump Zak! -dawsheng.

dawsheng, I think if Zak refers to leaders in position of trust, power and influence, his assessment is fairly reasonable.

]]> By: m.r.ang http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/11/power-transfer-at-national-level-matter-of-time/comment-page-1/#comment-132796 m.r.ang Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:00:51 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/11/power-transfer-at-national-level-matter-of-time/#comment-132796 Each morning I woke up I will certainly mark my calender anticipating the day to 916.I pray that it will definitely be achieved. Good Luck and may god bless you all. Each morning I woke up I will certainly mark my calender anticipating the day to 916.I pray that it will definitely be achieved.
Good Luck and may god bless you all.

]]> By: AsalUsuLMalaysiaHacked http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/11/power-transfer-at-national-level-matter-of-time/comment-page-1/#comment-132791 AsalUsuLMalaysiaHacked Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:45:48 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/11/power-transfer-at-national-level-matter-of-time/#comment-132791 TRIANGLE FIGHT JOURNEY BEGINS... Coillision between infinite Umno has come closer to Be End. 1) Stronghold or not your well is getting smaller to feed your harpies, those who hunger for more would start berserk among themselves via Ahmad Ismail. 2) The Castle was surrounded by PK Crusaders while the imps had betrayed the Dungeon Keeper(AAB) by letting in the Ex-premier Vampire(TDM) through back door! 3) The reinforcement had yet to come, missing in action in no where land. Some says they had been enjoying the time of their lives in "Shangrila Leisure". 4) Triangle fight starts between the Keeper(AAB) himself and his ex-premier Vampire(TDM) who blood thirst for his next successor the Soul Reaper(Najis). 5) Mean while, outside of the dungeon Crusader had preparing to sent their Griffins to negotiate with their inforcement in NO Where Land. 6) From the inside, demons captain(Muhyiddin) had provides convenience way for Vampire by ringing the bell calling for premier to hasten his exit plan. WELL KNIGHTS!... have faith, as the silver lining shines bright above the skies! Both weakening demons and vampires had no teeth! HAHah... RAISE YOUR SWORDS, PREPARE FOR THE SEIGE!!!... TRIANGLE FIGHT JOURNEY BEGINS…

Coillision between infinite Umno has come closer to Be End.

1) Stronghold or not your well is getting smaller to feed your harpies, those who hunger for more would start berserk among themselves via Ahmad Ismail.

2) The Castle was surrounded by PK Crusaders while the imps had betrayed the Dungeon Keeper(AAB) by letting in the Ex-premier Vampire(TDM) through back door!

3) The reinforcement had yet to come, missing in action in no where land. Some says they had been enjoying the time of their lives in “Shangrila Leisure”.

4) Triangle fight starts between the Keeper(AAB) himself and his ex-premier Vampire(TDM) who blood thirst for his next successor the Soul Reaper(Najis).

5) Mean while, outside of the dungeon Crusader had preparing to sent their Griffins to negotiate with their inforcement in NO Where Land.

6) From the inside, demons captain(Muhyiddin) had provides convenience way for Vampire by ringing the bell calling for premier to hasten his exit plan.

WELL KNIGHTS!… have faith, as the silver lining shines bright above the skies! Both weakening demons and vampires had no teeth! HAHah…

RAISE YOUR SWORDS, PREPARE FOR THE SEIGE!!!…

]]> By: dawsheng http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/11/power-transfer-at-national-level-matter-of-time/comment-page-1/#comment-132790 dawsheng Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:43:20 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/11/power-transfer-at-national-level-matter-of-time/#comment-132790 When the federal constitution spells out the special position of Malay, naturally everyone will regards its meaning to be associated with all things virtuous, since when that special position took a different connotation to become the license to corrupt and plunder? When the federal constitution spells out the special position of Malay, naturally everyone will regards its meaning to be associated with all things virtuous, since when that special position took a different connotation to become the license to corrupt and plunder?

]]> By: dawsheng http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/11/power-transfer-at-national-level-matter-of-time/comment-page-1/#comment-132789 dawsheng Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:26:45 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/11/power-transfer-at-national-level-matter-of-time/#comment-132789 "The Malaysian Rakyat is not “much more learned” today, they have simply drawn political battle-lines that were never their during the time of their forefathers. Sweeping the social contract under the carpet does not sweep responsibility that each citizen of Malaysia has towards the country." - Zak If there's a social contract and it did not fulfill its promises, than it should be null and void. As far as I concern, I did not sign this contract, I wasn't even born yet, so how can there be a social contract that binds me? We have the Federal Constitution and the rights of all Malaysians are guaranteed. Who needs a social contract? “The Malaysian Rakyat is not “much more learned” today, they have simply drawn political battle-lines that were never their during the time of their forefathers. Sweeping the social contract under the carpet does not sweep responsibility that each citizen of Malaysia has towards the country.” – Zak

If there’s a social contract and it did not fulfill its promises, than it should be null and void. As far as I concern, I did not sign this contract, I wasn’t even born yet, so how can there be a social contract that binds me?

We have the Federal Constitution and the rights of all Malaysians are guaranteed. Who needs a social contract?

]]> By: dawsheng http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/11/power-transfer-at-national-level-matter-of-time/comment-page-1/#comment-132788 dawsheng Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:08:13 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/11/power-transfer-at-national-level-matter-of-time/#comment-132788 "Today, we do not have visionaries. We have selfish inward looking bigots who claim to be speaking for others when no one identifies with their cause, each fighting for their own political agendas." - Zak Go and jump Zak! “Today, we do not have visionaries. We have selfish inward looking bigots who claim to be speaking for others when no one identifies with their cause, each fighting for their own political agendas.” – Zak

Go and jump Zak!

]]> By: dawsheng http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/11/power-transfer-at-national-level-matter-of-time/comment-page-1/#comment-132787 dawsheng Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:04:29 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/11/power-transfer-at-national-level-matter-of-time/#comment-132787 "... the founding fathers of Malaysia were not ignorant. They were visionaries who forged ahead with national development with wisdom and foresight." Zak And that wisdom and foresight of our founding fathers were the main reason that kept Malaysians ignorant about their rights for half a century. Speaking of wisdom and foresight, when a country end up with a leader like Abdullah, how far do you think we can go? “… the founding fathers of Malaysia were not ignorant. They were visionaries who forged ahead with national development with wisdom and foresight.” Zak

And that wisdom and foresight of our founding fathers were the main reason that kept Malaysians ignorant about their rights for half a century. Speaking of wisdom and foresight, when a country end up with a leader like Abdullah, how far do you think we can go?

]]> By: dawsheng http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/11/power-transfer-at-national-level-matter-of-time/comment-page-1/#comment-132785 dawsheng Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:55:49 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/11/power-transfer-at-national-level-matter-of-time/#comment-132785 "what do you think of Hindraf’s inciting?" Zak I think Ahmad deserves the equivalent. “what do you think of Hindraf’s inciting?” Zak

I think Ahmad deserves the equivalent.

]]> By: imranj78 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/11/power-transfer-at-national-level-matter-of-time/comment-page-1/#comment-132783 imranj78 Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:49:24 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/11/power-transfer-at-national-level-matter-of-time/#comment-132783 When will PR politicians especially DSAI get it into their head that trying to cease power through cross overs is not only highly unethical, but also undemocratic and a plain violation of the electoral wishes of the rakyat in GE12? The rakyat has already chosen who they want to govern the country for the next 5 years. Do DSAI, PR and the supposedly 30 cross over MPs think that they are so great that they can make the decision for the rakyat who has already spoken in GE12? That speaks of arrogance and extreme thirst for power! The only government that is to be recognized is one chosen through a general election. In GE12, BN was chosen and PR was given the great opportunity to rule 5 states. Do well in those 5 states and maybe PR can form the federal government in GE13. A government formed in any other way especially through defections is undemocratic and will lead to instability....! When will PR politicians especially DSAI get it into their head that trying to cease power through cross overs is not only highly unethical, but also undemocratic and a plain violation of the electoral wishes of the rakyat in GE12?

The rakyat has already chosen who they want to govern the country for the next 5 years. Do DSAI, PR and the supposedly 30 cross over MPs think that they are so great that they can make the decision for the rakyat who has already spoken in GE12? That speaks of arrogance and extreme thirst for power!

The only government that is to be recognized is one chosen through a general election. In GE12, BN was chosen and PR was given the great opportunity to rule 5 states. Do well in those 5 states and maybe PR can form the federal government in GE13. A government formed in any other way especially through defections is undemocratic and will lead to instability….!

]]> By: m.hwang http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/11/power-transfer-at-national-level-matter-of-time/comment-page-1/#comment-132780 m.hwang Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:07:09 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/11/power-transfer-at-national-level-matter-of-time/#comment-132780 KennyGan, at times like this your comments are not in the least helpful. Don't play into BN's hand. Read RPK's latest article http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/12512/84/ for he has described the situation quite aptly. KennyGan, at times like this your comments are not in the least helpful. Don’t play into BN’s hand. Read RPK’s latest article http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/12512/84/ for he has described the situation quite aptly.

]]> By: pangwl88 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/11/power-transfer-at-national-level-matter-of-time/comment-page-1/#comment-132774 pangwl88 Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:18:24 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/11/power-transfer-at-national-level-matter-of-time/#comment-132774 Can I Ask Pakatan Rakyat one Favour???????????????????? After PR over turn the current jokers. The FIRST thing I would like to humbly request is to REMOVE all the idiots in ACA, and reform ACA as an independant department. THEN, can you sent the NEW ACA over to Sabah? We have the small fish, big fish, the sharks, crocodiles, dinosours, WHALES...etc etc. I suggest the NEW ACA start fishing at the OLD ACA first....... So many to catch!!! Can I Ask Pakatan Rakyat one Favour????????????????????

After PR over turn the current jokers. The FIRST thing I would like to humbly request is to REMOVE all the idiots in ACA, and reform ACA as an independant department.

THEN, can you sent the NEW ACA over to Sabah? We have the small fish, big fish, the sharks, crocodiles, dinosours, WHALES…etc etc.

I suggest the NEW ACA start fishing at the OLD ACA first…….

So many to catch!!!

]]> By: Anwar’s play acting is encyclopedic! (Part 1) « Jebat Must Die http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/11/power-transfer-at-national-level-matter-of-time/comment-page-1/#comment-132772 Anwar’s play acting is encyclopedic! (Part 1) « Jebat Must Die Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:15:06 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/11/power-transfer-at-national-level-matter-of-time/#comment-132772 [...] (Part 1) 11 09 2008 Today, the lower rung leaders of Pakatan Rakyat issued a joint statement which to me revealed how delusional they are. Not to mention their arrogant presumption of taking [...] [...] (Part 1) 11 09 2008 Today, the lower rung leaders of Pakatan Rakyat issued a joint statement which to me revealed how delusional they are. Not to mention their arrogant presumption of taking [...]

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