Comments on: Revolt by Ahmad Ismail and 13 Penang UMNO divisions latest and probably most critical challenge to Abdullah’s power-transition plan http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/06/revolt-by-ahmad-ismail-and-13-penang-umno-divisions-latest-and-probably-most-critical-challenge-to-abdullahs-power-transition-plan/ for Malaysia Sun, 12 Feb 2012 13:28:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: swee_ann_tweety http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/06/revolt-by-ahmad-ismail-and-13-penang-umno-divisions-latest-and-probably-most-critical-challenge-to-abdullahs-power-transition-plan/comment-page-2/#comment-132305 swee_ann_tweety Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:09:26 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/06/revolt-by-ahmad-ismail-and-13-penang-umno-divisions-latest-and-probably-most-critical-challenge-to-abdullahs-power-transition-plan/#comment-132305 Have you seen his apology video ? LOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqaQM36P5GM Have you seen his apology video ? LOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqaQM36P5GM

]]> By: sotong http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/06/revolt-by-ahmad-ismail-and-13-penang-umno-divisions-latest-and-probably-most-critical-challenge-to-abdullahs-power-transition-plan/comment-page-2/#comment-131533 sotong Mon, 08 Sep 2008 05:53:35 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/06/revolt-by-ahmad-ismail-and-13-penang-umno-divisions-latest-and-probably-most-critical-challenge-to-abdullahs-power-transition-plan/#comment-131533 The past experience has shown that if racist leaders/politicians are allowed to say what they want unchallenged, in particular from their own leaders, their followers will think it is their right to say the same thing to incite racial hatred and division damaging to a multi racial country. The past experience has shown that if racist leaders/politicians are allowed to say what they want unchallenged, in particular from their own leaders, their followers will think it is their right to say the same thing to incite racial hatred and division damaging to a multi racial country.

]]> By: fish-warezmasterz http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/06/revolt-by-ahmad-ismail-and-13-penang-umno-divisions-latest-and-probably-most-critical-challenge-to-abdullahs-power-transition-plan/comment-page-2/#comment-131530 fish-warezmasterz Mon, 08 Sep 2008 05:48:42 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/06/revolt-by-ahmad-ismail-and-13-penang-umno-divisions-latest-and-probably-most-critical-challenge-to-abdullahs-power-transition-plan/#comment-131530 well played DAP leaders..when several chinese reporter wrote this thing.all chinese people are angry! im also angry! buy hey,cant u see YB Lim is good enough making all chinese in Malaysia angry?? He keeps on playing this racial issue,but still dont want to admit he is racist.DAP is again a Chinese chauvinistic party.i do agree with azk.Stop this thing laa..we all immigrants! all of us are equal then.but please,learn history.do not refer to 1900 only,refer to 1800 and older.have u ever heard kesultanan cina pulau pinang? or any state? no right?? even this land was called tanah melayu (malay land).this land has its owner,long before we were born..i respect that malays came before us.so why we want to argue history.i dont want to become like ungrateful Singaporean who doesnt want to respect Malaysia. i also mix.my grandmother,greatgrandmother were chinese.but now im Malaysian.im more grateful to be awarded as a Malaysian even i cant speak Malaysia language fluently like native Malays.but hey...do you love to see 13th may riot again??? read this;if DAP is not racist,why only 1 Malay exco (PKR) in Penang?? plus Deputy CM,made 2 malays only?? malays are 30-45% of Penang's population but given only 1 exco??? before this,Gerakan gave 4 Exco.see.if u say DAP is multiracial,or Malaysian Malaysia party then it should be based on population.not chinese dominant!!! DAP for bangsa Malaysia,or for Chinese?? well played DAP leaders..when several chinese reporter wrote this thing.all chinese people are angry! im also angry! buy hey,cant u see YB Lim is good enough making all chinese in Malaysia angry?? He keeps on playing this racial issue,but still dont want to admit he is racist.DAP is again a Chinese chauvinistic party.i do agree with azk.Stop this thing laa..we all immigrants! all of us are equal then.but please,learn history.do not refer to 1900 only,refer to 1800 and older.have u ever heard kesultanan cina pulau pinang? or any state? no right?? even this land was called tanah melayu (malay land).this land has its owner,long before we were born..i respect that malays came before us.so why we want to argue history.i dont want to become like ungrateful Singaporean who doesnt want to respect Malaysia.

i also mix.my grandmother,greatgrandmother were chinese.but now im Malaysian.im more grateful to be awarded as a Malaysian even i cant speak Malaysia language fluently like native Malays.but hey…do you love to see 13th may riot again???

read this;if DAP is not racist,why only 1 Malay exco (PKR) in Penang?? plus Deputy CM,made 2 malays only?? malays are 30-45% of Penang’s population but given only 1 exco??? before this,Gerakan gave 4 Exco.see.if u say DAP is multiracial,or Malaysian Malaysia party then it should be based on population.not chinese dominant!!! DAP for bangsa Malaysia,or for Chinese??

]]> By: yip_83 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/06/revolt-by-ahmad-ismail-and-13-penang-umno-divisions-latest-and-probably-most-critical-challenge-to-abdullahs-power-transition-plan/comment-page-2/#comment-131522 yip_83 Mon, 08 Sep 2008 05:30:16 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/06/revolt-by-ahmad-ismail-and-13-penang-umno-divisions-latest-and-probably-most-critical-challenge-to-abdullahs-power-transition-plan/#comment-131522 l realise one thing, this Ahmad Ismail is quite stupid to saying that "Chinese are immigrants and squatting in Malaysia". 1st, because according to the history, Malaysia is own by orang asli. So if let say, we are being racist to Malaysia, what about with your guys? And who are the person who came to Malaysia from Indonesia because of runaway from the enermy? Do he still remember that? Or else, he was sleeping when having Sejarah classes? 2nd, let say he know nothing, what about with government? Government was always saying that, Malaysia is a "berbilang bangsa" country. When they facing problem, will push this topic to aborigines. For example, for Osama cases, they was scare and can't do anything and just keep saying that, "Malaysia is a "berbilang bangsa" country". So since he (Ahmad Ismail) was saying that, did he realise that he feel shame on himself. 3rd, we (chinese) are just waiting for your apologise, is that really hard to say the word "l'm sorry" ? And please ask himself, what did he sacrifice to country? Did he done well on his job? l realise one thing, this Ahmad Ismail is quite stupid to saying that “Chinese are immigrants and squatting in Malaysia”.
1st, because according to the history, Malaysia is own by orang asli. So if let say, we are being racist to Malaysia, what about with your guys? And who are the person who came to Malaysia from Indonesia because of runaway from the enermy? Do he still remember that? Or else, he was sleeping when having Sejarah classes?
2nd, let say he know nothing, what about with government? Government was always saying that, Malaysia is a “berbilang bangsa” country. When they facing problem, will push this topic to aborigines. For example, for Osama cases, they was scare and can’t do anything and just keep saying that, “Malaysia is a “berbilang bangsa” country”. So since he (Ahmad Ismail) was saying that, did he realise that he feel shame on himself.
3rd, we (chinese) are just waiting for your apologise, is that really hard to say the word “l’m sorry” ?
And please ask himself, what did he sacrifice to country? Did he done well on his job?

]]> By: boh-liao http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/06/revolt-by-ahmad-ismail-and-13-penang-umno-divisions-latest-and-probably-most-critical-challenge-to-abdullahs-power-transition-plan/comment-page-2/#comment-131489 boh-liao Mon, 08 Sep 2008 03:51:04 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/06/revolt-by-ahmad-ismail-and-13-penang-umno-divisions-latest-and-probably-most-critical-challenge-to-abdullahs-power-transition-plan/#comment-131489 Ahmad Ismail and 13 Penang Umno divisions that backed Ahmad’s stance of no apology for his offensive, insensitive and racist reference to the Chinese as “orang tumpang” declared openly: Ahmad Ismail will not say sorry. <b>Why, why, why? We may ask. Why Ahmad Ismail will not say sorry? Answer: Because Ahmad Ismail loves all Malaysians deeply. "Love means never having to say you're sorry!" (Love Story)</b><b></b> Ahmad Ismail and 13 Penang Umno divisions that backed Ahmad’s stance of no apology for his offensive, insensitive and racist reference to the Chinese as “orang tumpang” declared openly: Ahmad Ismail will not say sorry.

Why, why, why? We may ask. Why Ahmad Ismail will not say sorry?

Answer: Because Ahmad Ismail loves all Malaysians deeply.

“Love means never having to say you’re sorry!” (Love Story)

]]> By: justice4allraces http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/06/revolt-by-ahmad-ismail-and-13-penang-umno-divisions-latest-and-probably-most-critical-challenge-to-abdullahs-power-transition-plan/comment-page-2/#comment-131450 justice4allraces Mon, 08 Sep 2008 02:12:42 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/06/revolt-by-ahmad-ismail-and-13-penang-umno-divisions-latest-and-probably-most-critical-challenge-to-abdullahs-power-transition-plan/#comment-131450 This an utter outrage! What Ismail had said can not only spark a possible racial riot in a multi-ethnic society like Malaysia but also shows he has a backward mentality. Do we want to see the May 13 riot repeat itself in this day and age? The answer is "No", no more and never again. How dare he called the Chinese Malaysians "squatters" and "pendatang"! To be frank, men like Ismail is a social threat and do not belong in a country which its society is ethnically diverse. If he has the guts to call the Chinese Malaysians "squatters" or "pendatang" why can't he be man enough to say his apologies for his misdemeanour? An apology is not enough and perhaps he should be stood down, be barred from any political party, be stripped of his Datukship and serve his punishment to teach him a lesson. This will be a lesson for those who dare to consider of incurring racial sentiments among Malaysian brothers. Datuk Ahmad Ismail should have learnt his history properly that Malaysia was not built by the Malays alone but by many hands of different creed, ethnicity and religion. Without the different races, would it be possible to see Malaysia standing tall alongside with other first-class nations today in 2008? He should have thought of the consequences of his words for words can not only cut like a knife but they are also not easy to be taken back when they hurt others. This an utter outrage!

What Ismail had said can not only spark a possible racial riot in a
multi-ethnic society like Malaysia but also shows he has a backward
mentality. Do we want to see the May 13 riot repeat itself in this day and age? The answer is “No”, no more and never again.

How dare he called the Chinese Malaysians “squatters” and “pendatang”! To be frank, men like Ismail is a social threat and do not belong in a country which its society is ethnically diverse. If he has the guts to call the Chinese Malaysians “squatters” or “pendatang” why can’t he be man enough to say his apologies for his misdemeanour?

An apology is not enough and perhaps he should be stood down, be
barred from any political party, be stripped of his Datukship and
serve his punishment to teach him a lesson. This will be a lesson for
those who dare to consider of incurring racial sentiments among
Malaysian brothers.

Datuk Ahmad Ismail should have learnt his history properly that
Malaysia was not built by the Malays alone but by many hands of
different creed, ethnicity and religion. Without the different races,
would it be possible to see Malaysia standing tall alongside with other first-class nations today in 2008? He should have thought of the consequences of his words for words can not only cut like a knife but they are also not easy to be taken back when they hurt others.

]]> By: m.rakyat http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/06/revolt-by-ahmad-ismail-and-13-penang-umno-divisions-latest-and-probably-most-critical-challenge-to-abdullahs-power-transition-plan/comment-page-2/#comment-131396 m.rakyat Sun, 07 Sep 2008 17:01:12 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/06/revolt-by-ahmad-ismail-and-13-penang-umno-divisions-latest-and-probably-most-critical-challenge-to-abdullahs-power-transition-plan/#comment-131396 Well, though Ahmad Ismail is racist but the chinese as a whole is to be blamed for this. The chinese as a whole ask for it generally. One hand don’t clap. If the chinese is vocal enough and unselfish all these while, then this kind of thing won’t happen. In general, when come to issue and problem, chinese will choose to stay away and hide in their own house. When there is benefit, the chinese will be the first one to share the distribution of benefit. That’s chinese. Chinese always like to protest in silent. If so, then better suffer in silent and accept everything in silent. The chinese ask for everything. Well, though Ahmad Ismail is racist but the chinese as a whole is to be blamed for this. The chinese as a whole ask for it generally.

One hand don’t clap. If the chinese is vocal enough and unselfish all these while, then this kind of thing won’t happen. In general, when come to issue and problem, chinese will choose to stay away and hide in their own house. When there is benefit, the chinese will be the first one to share the distribution of benefit. That’s chinese.

Chinese always like to protest in silent. If so, then better suffer in silent and accept everything in silent. The chinese ask for everything.

]]> By: lopez http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/06/revolt-by-ahmad-ismail-and-13-penang-umno-divisions-latest-and-probably-most-critical-challenge-to-abdullahs-power-transition-plan/comment-page-2/#comment-131336 lopez Sun, 07 Sep 2008 11:19:04 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/06/revolt-by-ahmad-ismail-and-13-penang-umno-divisions-latest-and-probably-most-critical-challenge-to-abdullahs-power-transition-plan/#comment-131336 Ever thought how and where did your forefathers disembark when their boats landed on the shores of British Malaya. How are they transported to the mines, do they walk, by bullock cart, where are these roads. What was the boat names, who were these merchants who brought your forefather to this forsaken troubled land. The british has learnt that your forefathers are dirt hardworking and so damn self motivated in the Pearl river estuary. You are hungry to the bones, your kinsmen are hungry to the bones, your child dont live up to 20 years old if you can get a wife. Those days When you are in your teens you are at your prime it is do or die. This is in your blood, your forefathers begets the harsh treatment of the CHINGS and their corrupt feudal ways. They is no other choice you sell yourself for a bowl of rice and leave for the british malaya. Each of us has our story, the bottom line is no food, no future, no opportunity, no hope. Where are the tears of your forefathers when they board the forsaken boat, mind you some never arrived at all. Over the years, nobody cares for you, the kapitan china did his small part, the tongs did their part, the kongsi did their part too. But what sucks is when a baba says he and his friends did their part, if we look closely he really did his part in saving his own arse. You see in the 1900 to 1945 there is a missing part of our history which is either deliberately left out or conveniently disappeared. Maybe i could be wrong , perhaps those who professed can show where are these sources , but they dont have to intepret them, Overseas Chinese is such a phenomena, it does not end in british malaya, it is global and there is no other. As for our bolihland politicks , it is only at infancy stage of a nation, every body is trying to eatablish a precedent so that their future generations are not deprived. I say my foot what is there to be deprived when there is nothing left. Ever thought how and where did your forefathers disembark when their boats landed on the shores of British Malaya.
How are they transported to the mines, do they walk, by bullock cart, where are these roads.

What was the boat names, who were these merchants who brought your forefather to this forsaken troubled land.
The british has learnt that your forefathers are dirt hardworking and so damn self motivated in the Pearl river estuary.
You are hungry to the bones, your kinsmen are hungry to the bones, your child dont live up to 20 years old if you can get a wife. Those days When you are in your teens you are at your prime it is do or die.
This is in your blood, your forefathers begets the harsh treatment of the CHINGS and their corrupt feudal ways.
They is no other choice you sell yourself for a bowl of rice and leave for the british malaya. Each of us has our story, the bottom line is no food, no future, no opportunity, no hope.
Where are the tears of your forefathers when they board the forsaken boat, mind you some never arrived at all.
Over the years, nobody cares for you, the kapitan china did his small part, the tongs did their part, the kongsi did their part too.
But what sucks is when a baba says he and his friends did their part, if we look closely he really did his part in saving his own arse.

You see in the 1900 to 1945 there is a missing part of our history which is either deliberately left out or conveniently disappeared. Maybe i could be wrong , perhaps those who professed can show where are these sources , but they dont have to intepret them,

Overseas Chinese is such a phenomena, it does not end in british malaya, it is global and there is no other.

As for our bolihland politicks , it is only at infancy stage of a nation, every body is trying to eatablish a precedent so that their future generations are not deprived. I say my foot what is there to be deprived when there is nothing left.

]]> By: Steven http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/06/revolt-by-ahmad-ismail-and-13-penang-umno-divisions-latest-and-probably-most-critical-challenge-to-abdullahs-power-transition-plan/comment-page-2/#comment-131277 Steven Sun, 07 Sep 2008 07:19:16 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/06/revolt-by-ahmad-ismail-and-13-penang-umno-divisions-latest-and-probably-most-critical-challenge-to-abdullahs-power-transition-plan/#comment-131277 I feel we all have to be very very careful here.....don't play into their dirty hands! It's quite obvious that there is a personal political agenda there. This Penang fellow hadn't got what he wanted during the Gerakan years and now with PR as the state government, he has a lost more to lose. So it's all a matter of money...money...money...as Lim Keng Yaik so aptly puts it. He is also playing this up to create more political chaos in the run up to Sept 16. Quite rightly, all Malaysians regardless of race and beliefs, should stand together, unite and ensure that PR gets in as the federal government...soon! I feel we all have to be very very careful here…..don’t play into their dirty hands! It’s quite obvious that there is a personal political agenda there. This Penang fellow hadn’t got what he wanted during the Gerakan years and now with PR as the state government, he has a lost more to lose. So it’s all a matter of money…money…money…as Lim Keng Yaik so aptly puts it. He is also playing this up to create more political chaos in the run up to Sept 16. Quite rightly, all Malaysians regardless of race and beliefs, should stand together, unite and ensure that PR gets in as the federal government…soon!

]]> By: boh-liao http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/06/revolt-by-ahmad-ismail-and-13-penang-umno-divisions-latest-and-probably-most-critical-challenge-to-abdullahs-power-transition-plan/comment-page-2/#comment-131271 boh-liao Sun, 07 Sep 2008 06:15:31 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/06/revolt-by-ahmad-ismail-and-13-penang-umno-divisions-latest-and-probably-most-critical-challenge-to-abdullahs-power-transition-plan/#comment-131271 It does not matter the journalists claimed that "We did not hear it wrongly" and we heard Ahmad said ‘Chinese were only immigrants (Orang Cina cuma tumpang di sini) and it was impossible for them to achieve equal rights among races.’ <b>Ahmad Ismail and Penang Umnoputras claimed otherwise and demanded that Malaysians must accept their black-is-white and white-is-black explanation. They even declared openly FO to AAB for asking Ahmad Ismail to apologise and that the Sin Chew reporter be shot. (OK for this kind of talk?) Not surprisingly, AAB (tak suka dicabar but pengecut bila dicabar) declared that Ahmad Ismail is a good guy and not a racist. Ahmad Ismail was misinterpreted. Ahmad Shabery also supported Ahmad Ismail claim that the media had misquoted his speech, turning it into a racial issue. Umnoputras claimed that they say no wrong and they are not arrogant!</b><b></b> It does not matter the journalists claimed that “We did not hear it wrongly” and we heard Ahmad said ‘Chinese were only immigrants (Orang Cina cuma tumpang di sini) and it was impossible for them to achieve equal rights among races.’

Ahmad Ismail and Penang Umnoputras claimed otherwise and demanded that Malaysians must accept their black-is-white and white-is-black explanation. They even declared openly FO to AAB for asking Ahmad Ismail to apologise and that the Sin Chew reporter be shot. (OK for this kind of talk?)

Not surprisingly, AAB (tak suka dicabar but pengecut bila dicabar) declared that Ahmad Ismail is a good guy and not a racist. Ahmad Ismail was misinterpreted.

Ahmad Shabery also supported Ahmad Ismail claim that the media had misquoted his speech, turning it into a racial issue.

Umnoputras claimed that they say no wrong and they are not arrogant!

]]> By: jus legitimum http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/06/revolt-by-ahmad-ismail-and-13-penang-umno-divisions-latest-and-probably-most-critical-challenge-to-abdullahs-power-transition-plan/comment-page-2/#comment-131266 jus legitimum Sun, 07 Sep 2008 05:50:09 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/06/revolt-by-ahmad-ismail-and-13-penang-umno-divisions-latest-and-probably-most-critical-challenge-to-abdullahs-power-transition-plan/#comment-131266 Everyone of us including the Malays are pendatang.Time makes the difference.Some came here earlier than others.Even the ex MB of Selangor is the son of a recent pendatang from Indonesia and despite the fact that we have been living here for generations and even longer than Toyol.So to Ahmad and his gang from Penang,'What is there to shout about the pendatang issue?Hang semua ni bodoh ke?" Everyone of us including the Malays are pendatang.Time makes the difference.Some came here earlier than others.Even the ex MB of Selangor is the son of a recent pendatang from Indonesia and despite the fact that we have been living here for generations and even longer than Toyol.So to Ahmad and his gang from Penang,’What is there to shout about the pendatang issue?Hang semua ni bodoh ke?”

]]> By: UzMiNoOnist http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/06/revolt-by-ahmad-ismail-and-13-penang-umno-divisions-latest-and-probably-most-critical-challenge-to-abdullahs-power-transition-plan/comment-page-2/#comment-131265 UzMiNoOnist Sun, 07 Sep 2008 05:47:56 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/06/revolt-by-ahmad-ismail-and-13-penang-umno-divisions-latest-and-probably-most-critical-challenge-to-abdullahs-power-transition-plan/#comment-131265 I agree with azk. DAP must not get to that low a level as that scum bag. UMNO is going for broke and will drag as many as possible along with the sinking UMNOship. DAP must not bankrupt your ideals of Ketuanan Rakyat Malaysia by harping on this issue. There are enough right minded people fighting the cause. So lay off the issue. For once let Gerakan, MCA & SAPP win some mileage in their political journey of winning back their grassroots support. After all, one only shine in the presence of credible opponents. I agree with azk. DAP must not get to that low a level as that scum bag. UMNO is going for broke and will drag as many as possible along with the sinking UMNOship.
DAP must not bankrupt your ideals of Ketuanan Rakyat Malaysia by harping on this issue. There are enough right minded people fighting the cause. So lay off the issue.
For once let Gerakan, MCA & SAPP win some mileage in their political journey of winning back their grassroots support. After all, one only shine in the presence of credible opponents.

]]> By: ctc537 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/06/revolt-by-ahmad-ismail-and-13-penang-umno-divisions-latest-and-probably-most-critical-challenge-to-abdullahs-power-transition-plan/comment-page-2/#comment-131263 ctc537 Sun, 07 Sep 2008 05:37:07 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/06/revolt-by-ahmad-ismail-and-13-penang-umno-divisions-latest-and-probably-most-critical-challenge-to-abdullahs-power-transition-plan/#comment-131263 It doesn't matter if one is called 'orang tumpang' or 'pendatang', the truth is that we are Malaysians as our Mycard clearly states that the holder is a Warganegara Malaysia. Don't waste our time arguing over this as it only 'rugi' all of us. In a multi-racial country like ours, friction of this nature bound to happen from time to time since there are always some politicians try to seek support through the easy way by resorting to sensitive racist outbursts. It doesn’t matter if one is called ‘orang tumpang’ or ‘pendatang’, the truth is that we are Malaysians as our Mycard clearly states that the holder is a Warganegara Malaysia. Don’t waste our time arguing over this as it only ‘rugi’ all of us. In a multi-racial country like ours, friction of this nature bound to happen from time to time since there are always some politicians try to seek support through the easy way by resorting to sensitive racist outbursts.

]]> By: jus legitimum http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/06/revolt-by-ahmad-ismail-and-13-penang-umno-divisions-latest-and-probably-most-critical-challenge-to-abdullahs-power-transition-plan/comment-page-2/#comment-131262 jus legitimum Sun, 07 Sep 2008 05:34:12 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/06/revolt-by-ahmad-ismail-and-13-penang-umno-divisions-latest-and-probably-most-critical-challenge-to-abdullahs-power-transition-plan/#comment-131262 Umno is a racist party for years and decades.Surprisingly parties like MCA,Gerakan,MIC can remain subservient for so long.Many people tend to believe that their presence in BN had enabled their respective leaders to make it their gravy train.But then after 308.the 'gravy train' may soon reach its final destination and the whole group is at the verge of breaking up.The Penang balless party head and his 13 division supporters are skunks.Their words and behaviour really stinks.Imagine they have no guts to admit their wrongdoing but conveniently making the reporter as their scapegoat.No sensible people can tolerate their remarks towards the poor reporter.I quote what these idiots said,''Gantung pemberita itu,tembak dia ,suruh dia balik China."Don't you agree the devilish racist party can only produce these stupid,selfish,corrupted,cowardly and lazy and good for nothing bums?" Umno is a racist party for years and decades.Surprisingly parties like MCA,Gerakan,MIC can remain subservient for so long.Many people tend to believe that their presence in BN had enabled their respective leaders to make it their gravy train.But then after 308.the ‘gravy train’ may soon reach its final destination and the whole group is at the verge of breaking up.The Penang balless party head and his 13 division supporters are skunks.Their words and behaviour really stinks.Imagine they have no guts to admit their wrongdoing but conveniently making the reporter as their scapegoat.No sensible people can tolerate their remarks towards the poor reporter.I quote what these idiots said,”Gantung pemberita itu,tembak dia ,suruh dia balik China.”Don’t you agree the devilish racist party can only produce these stupid,selfish,corrupted,cowardly and lazy and good for nothing bums?”

]]> By: FY Lim http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/06/revolt-by-ahmad-ismail-and-13-penang-umno-divisions-latest-and-probably-most-critical-challenge-to-abdullahs-power-transition-plan/comment-page-2/#comment-131256 FY Lim Sun, 07 Sep 2008 05:00:41 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/06/revolt-by-ahmad-ismail-and-13-penang-umno-divisions-latest-and-probably-most-critical-challenge-to-abdullahs-power-transition-plan/#comment-131256 Where is Malaysia heading to after 51 years of independence ? Instead of talking about commonalities among races, we see politicians highlighting differences. BN had ruled for 51 years and even till this day, we hear seditious words being uttered and yet these person(s) are not charged ! UMNO's Youth previous leaders racial utterings and widely used of keris symbol and Ahmad Ismail touching on the " penumpang " issue did not help in nation building. Added to this was Tun M's defence of Ahmad. What is he trying to do ? An ex-PM fanning wild racial sentiments ! Sad to hear this from an elder statesman. What a shame ! By the way, I understand that Tun M's father was from Kerala, AAB's father came from Sanya , Hainan Island whilst Ahmad's father came from Indonesia. Do they share the same background as the Indonesians , Filipinos , Chinese and Indians ? These are also facts which we cannot deny. We are living in the 21st century and yet we hear politicians keep on reminding our citizens our our background. What do they want to achieve ? Perhaps to divide the people and rule. Dont they realise that we are all Malaysians with common objectives. Unless there is a sincere and genuine effort by all Malaysians to forge a united Malaysia, all the visual effort in promoting unity and harmony will come to nought and wasted. Where is Malaysia heading to after 51 years of independence ? Instead of talking about commonalities among races, we see politicians highlighting differences.

BN had ruled for 51 years and even till this day, we hear seditious words being uttered and yet these person(s) are not charged ! UMNO’s Youth previous leaders racial utterings and widely used of keris symbol and Ahmad Ismail touching on the ” penumpang ” issue did not help in nation building.

Added to this was Tun M’s defence of Ahmad. What is he trying to do ? An ex-PM fanning wild racial sentiments ! Sad to hear this from an elder statesman. What a shame !

By the way, I understand that Tun M’s father was from Kerala,
AAB’s father came from Sanya , Hainan Island whilst Ahmad’s father came from Indonesia. Do they share the same background as the Indonesians , Filipinos , Chinese and Indians ? These are also facts which we cannot deny.

We are living in the 21st century and yet we hear politicians keep on reminding our citizens our our background. What do they want to achieve ? Perhaps to divide the people and rule. Dont they realise that we are all Malaysians with common objectives.

Unless there is a sincere and genuine effort by all Malaysians to forge a united Malaysia, all the visual effort in promoting unity and harmony will come to nought and wasted.

]]> By: FY Lim http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/06/revolt-by-ahmad-ismail-and-13-penang-umno-divisions-latest-and-probably-most-critical-challenge-to-abdullahs-power-transition-plan/comment-page-2/#comment-131257 FY Lim Sun, 07 Sep 2008 05:00:41 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/06/revolt-by-ahmad-ismail-and-13-penang-umno-divisions-latest-and-probably-most-critical-challenge-to-abdullahs-power-transition-plan/#comment-131257 Where is Malaysia heading to after 51 years of independence ? Instead of talking about commonalities among races, we see politicians highlighting differences. BN had ruled for 51 years and even till this day, we hear seditious words being uttered and yet these person(s) are not charged ! UMNO's Youth previous leaders racial utterings and widely used of keris symbol and Ahmad Ismail touching on the " penumpang " issue did not help in nation building. Added to this was Tun M's defence of Ahmad. What is he trying to do ? An ex-PM fanning wild racial sentiments ! Sad to hear this from an elder statesman. What a shame ! By the way, I understand that Tun M's father was from Kerala, AAB's father came from Sanya , Hainan Island whilst Ahmad's father came from Indonesia. Do they share the same background as the Indonesians , Filipinos , Chinese and Indians ? These are also facts which we cannot deny. We are living in the 21st century and yet we hear politicians keep on reminding our citizens our our background. What do they want to achieve ? Perhaps to divide the people and rule. Dont they realise that we are all Malaysians with common objectives. Unless there is a sincere and genuine effort by all Malaysians to forge a united Malaysia, all the visual effort in promoting unity and harmony will come to nought and wasted. Where is Malaysia heading to after 51 years of independence ? Instead of talking about commonalities among races, we see politicians highlighting differences.

BN had ruled for 51 years and even till this day, we hear seditious words being uttered and yet these person(s) are not charged ! UMNO’s Youth previous leaders racial utterings and widely used of keris symbol and Ahmad Ismail touching on the ” penumpang ” issue did not help in nation building.

Added to this was Tun M’s defence of Ahmad. What is he trying to do ? An ex-PM fanning wild racial sentiments ! Sad to hear this from an elder statesman. What a shame !

By the way, I understand that Tun M’s father was from Kerala,
AAB’s father came from Sanya , Hainan Island whilst Ahmad’s father came from Indonesia. Do they share the same background as the Indonesians , Filipinos , Chinese and Indians ? These are also facts which we cannot deny.

We are living in the 21st century and yet we hear politicians keep on reminding our citizens our our background. What do they want to achieve ? Perhaps to divide the people and rule. Dont they realise that we are all Malaysians with common objectives.

Unless there is a sincere and genuine effort by all Malaysians to forge a united Malaysia, all the visual effort in promoting unity and harmony will come to nought and wasted.

]]> By: lbl http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/06/revolt-by-ahmad-ismail-and-13-penang-umno-divisions-latest-and-probably-most-critical-challenge-to-abdullahs-power-transition-plan/comment-page-2/#comment-131250 lbl Sun, 07 Sep 2008 04:14:33 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/06/revolt-by-ahmad-ismail-and-13-penang-umno-divisions-latest-and-probably-most-critical-challenge-to-abdullahs-power-transition-plan/#comment-131250 For Ahamd Ismail to say that he will not apologise inspite of Najib's apology, clearly shows he has no repect to the top UMNO authority. Has he got a hold on the top UMNO authorities? For Ahamd Ismail to say that he will not apologise inspite of Najib’s apology, clearly shows he has no repect to the top UMNO authority.
Has he got a hold on the top UMNO authorities?

]]> By: k1980 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/06/revolt-by-ahmad-ismail-and-13-penang-umno-divisions-latest-and-probably-most-critical-challenge-to-abdullahs-power-transition-plan/comment-page-2/#comment-131242 k1980 Sun, 07 Sep 2008 02:35:41 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/06/revolt-by-ahmad-ismail-and-13-penang-umno-divisions-latest-and-probably-most-critical-challenge-to-abdullahs-power-transition-plan/#comment-131242 According to news reports, 22% of the Chinese in Permatang pauh voted for BN despite the fact Ahmad ismail publicly labeled them as "squatters" during ceramahs. These 22% are obviously from the mca and gerakan. They are either mental retards or are happy to be 2nd class citizens. Their identities should be disclosed so that we can know what type of idiots we have in this country. According to news reports, 22% of the Chinese in Permatang pauh voted for BN despite the fact Ahmad ismail publicly labeled them as “squatters” during ceramahs. These 22% are obviously from the mca and gerakan. They are either mental retards or are happy to be 2nd class citizens. Their identities should be disclosed so that we can know what type of idiots we have in this country.

]]> By: azk http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/06/revolt-by-ahmad-ismail-and-13-penang-umno-divisions-latest-and-probably-most-critical-challenge-to-abdullahs-power-transition-plan/comment-page-2/#comment-131241 azk Sun, 07 Sep 2008 02:31:58 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/06/revolt-by-ahmad-ismail-and-13-penang-umno-divisions-latest-and-probably-most-critical-challenge-to-abdullahs-power-transition-plan/#comment-131241 if we have indeed achieved any progress as a Bangsa Malaysia since March 8 at all, we will be seeing our Malay brothers and sisters rallying together with DAP against Ahmad. what I am seeing is very frightening and disappointing. DAP reverting to a Chinese party. Malays in PR keep quiet about it. Now Ahmad is claiming ALL MALAYS are behind him. Do you see where we are going now? if we have indeed achieved any progress as a Bangsa Malaysia since March 8 at all, we will be seeing our Malay brothers and sisters rallying together with DAP against Ahmad.

what I am seeing is very frightening and disappointing.

DAP reverting to a Chinese party. Malays in PR keep quiet about it. Now Ahmad is claiming ALL MALAYS are behind him.

Do you see where we are going now?

]]> By: azk http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/06/revolt-by-ahmad-ismail-and-13-penang-umno-divisions-latest-and-probably-most-critical-challenge-to-abdullahs-power-transition-plan/comment-page-2/#comment-131240 azk Sun, 07 Sep 2008 02:28:55 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/09/06/revolt-by-ahmad-ismail-and-13-penang-umno-divisions-latest-and-probably-most-critical-challenge-to-abdullahs-power-transition-plan/#comment-131240 You of all the opposition leaders should know well how 513 has damaged Malaysia for 50 years. Are we going to let them start another? DAP has achieved enough with all the humiliation on Najib and picture of a weak Abdullah who has no control over his own UMNO. Please stop now before it's too late. We need to send the right message to the Malays why they should not buy Ahmad's BS, not working up the Chinese to go all out against the Malays! You of all the opposition leaders should know well how 513 has damaged Malaysia for 50 years. Are we going to let them start another?

DAP has achieved enough with all the humiliation on Najib and picture of a weak Abdullah who has no control over his own UMNO.

Please stop now before it’s too late. We need to send the right message to the Malays why they should not buy Ahmad’s BS, not working up the Chinese to go all out against the Malays!

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