It is not just Bukit Bendera Umno division chief Datuk Ahmad Ismail who is guilty of rank racism with his derogatory, offensive, insensitive and chauvinistic reference to Malaysian Chinese as “pendatang”, “penumpang” and untrustworthy Malaysians, the Biro Tata Negara (BTN) also purveys such extremism and un-Malaysian prejudices and communal poison.
Deputy Prime Minister and Deputy Umno President Datuk Seri Najib Razak has apologised on behalf of Ahmad Ismail to non-Malays “if it caused unhappiness”.
Is Najib next to apologise for the rank racism of BTN in purveying similar communal poison in its indoctrination courses?
I have received the following letter from an outraged parent at the trauma his daughter underwent in one such BTN indoctrination course for JPA scholars.
The BTN’s racist indoctrination course is a great disservice to both Malay and non-Malay JPA scholars as well as to Malaysian nation-building, the Merdeka social contract, the Malaysia Agreement, Rukunegara, Vision 2020 and Bangsa Malaysia.
It is time that the BTN’s racist indoctrination courses be exposed and all true Malaysians, both Malay and non-Malay, are invited to expose such extremist excesses and communal poison in BTN indoctrination courses as a prelude for its total revamp if not abolition!
BTN’s racist and divisive indoctrination courses
Now that Najib has apologised to non-Malays for Ahmad’s statement, I would like to bring to the attention of Najib the pain endured by the young non-Malay JPA scholars who are required to go through a five-day Biro Tatanegara programme at certain camps in the country. To be fair, many moderate Malay students too cried and were hurt by some racist comments made by the instructors.
As part of the course, which is mandatory before they are sent overseas, all non-Malays are segrgated and given lectures on the history of the country and how the immigration of the Chinese and Indians had taken place. And finally how the Chinese and Indians were given citizenship. The Malays too had their own similar sessions.
The instructors blatantly told them that they should not question the rights and privileges of the Malays as the non-Malays should be thankful that they were given citizenship status and a place to stay on their soil. My daughter together with the other non-Malay students was shocked and went back to their dormitories depressed. And to the Malay students, the instructors told them to be aware of this fact and not to mix too freely with the non-Malays.
A Malay friend of my daughter came back crying to the dormitory saying that she could not take the racist position taken by the government authority. My daughter then began questioning the bumiputra policy and was disgusted with such blatant indoctrination. This incident has also made the students harbour anger and resentment. Their fear for the authorities and losing their scholarships made them keep their cool. I am not exaggerating here – ask all the JPA students to write in anonymously and you will know the truth.
These are young minds being polluted with racism. Tens of thousands of students have gone through this programme and more will be attending it in the future. So can you blame them when they exhibit their racist tendencies when in authority? How could the JPA allow such a syllabus for the cream of the nation, who will one day be entrusted to implement government policies fairly?
So, will Najib take responsibility for the racist syllabus and subsequently the racist remarks and apologise to the tens of thousands of students and parents who were hurt by such hurtful remarks? Of course knowing the BN government, it will deny this. Believe me, this is the ABSOLUTE truth.
My call to Najib is to immediately probe into this claim with the help of a multi-racial team of officers from Suhakam BUT please maintain the anonymity of the young children who have everything to lose. This blatant racism practised and preached by the Barisan Nasional government must stop immediately.
From an outraged Malaysian parent
#1 by ALLAN THAM on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 1:20 pm
This is real shocking revelation and believe this could happen for sometime. for those people who wish to have their chance of studies overseas will sure keep it to themselves.
We have to look at Malaysia history in the right perspective. Without all the Malaysian we will not come to this stage. It is also because of the corrupt practices of certain politician that Malaysian will not come to this poor stage.
I try to avoid to discuss and argue issue along the racial line but yet we can’t denial the fact that the Chinese community in Malaysia has contribute to the big chunk of the nation revenue through the payments of taxes and economic success. This was a true fact whether you like it or not, yet the Chinese have been always mistaken to be the one who has rob the other race out of their living or thing like that. It is the corrupt and the wastage that have been the main culprit in robbing the nation wealth and not the Chinese.
All this kind of discrimination should stop immediate should we want to progress and move forward.
One should not close their eye and say we do not know. This incident should be investigated and those who responsible should be deal with properly.
#2 by k1980 on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 1:32 pm
Dollah’s expected response: “The BTN instructors do not mean it. I shall tell them not to say this the next time. Now you, I and they are happy, yes?”
#3 by limkamput on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 1:37 pm
This BTN “thing” has been on going for decades. May be we find more opportune to talk about it now. Why didn’t we expose BNT’s antics earlier? May be we have no ball then, may be nobody listen then, or may be most accepted it then. So, if we want to do it, do it relentlessly; without fear or favour and irrespective of whether they are friends or foes. So my question to DAP and other PR component partiesis this: what actions are being taken against Zul Nordin? If you have no answer, please stop opening up more cans of worms. It sound so phoney.
#4 by Jan on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 1:43 pm
Jed Yoong,
We can accept Najib’s apology and move on. Guess what happens next? The same thing will happen again and again. This has happened in the past and it will happen again.
It’s time we put our foot down and tell them enough is enough we cannot accept anymore of this racist rhetorics branding us as pendatangs and traitors. What did we do to deserve such labels? We have to insist Ahmad Ismail apologise and be charged under the sedition act. This is to send a strong message across to all UMNOputras there’s a limit to whatever they can do or say.
#5 by twistedmind on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 1:44 pm
In the words on my young cousin, who just qualified to be a medical doctor and before being posted, was required to attend one such camp organized by BTN.
In relating his experience too, he mentioned the use of the words – Pendatang, Menumpang, be thankful of being given an opportunity to live here. Don’t question the Malay rights etc., similar to what has been highlighted here.
It was truly a disturbing experience for him and it had sown the seeds of HATRED towards the Malays – believe it or not. In such a short time at the camp, these idiots had managed to make other races hate the Malays.
Sadly, these are young people with friends of different races and religions who did not discriminate – at least until they tried to brainwash them at the camp.
Well done, idiots!
#6 by kanthanboy on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 2:20 pm
//MCA, Gerakan and MIC are always pretending to be blind, mute and deaf when it comes to issues like BTN, for years, can’t they do the right thing for once?// dawsheng
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They can’t do the right thing because they just do not know what is the right thing. All the BN’s representatives from MCA, Gerakan and MIC have successfully undergone UMNO indoctrination course similar to the BTN course.
#7 by maestromind on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 2:29 pm
I was listed for BTN course right after my SPM but i skipped it since i’ve heard a lot about BTN since my school days and i dont like it one bit. Well because i skipped it, i was not even offered a place to any university eventhough my SPM result was better than some of my friends who went overseas.
You guys can browse this blog owned by one Timbalan Pengarah BTN but he write as so called Presiden Gabungan Pemimpin Mahasiswa Malaysia. I doubt this GPMM really exist since i cant find any info about it. http://anginperubahan.blogspot.com/
#8 by AnakSarawak on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 2:33 pm
“In a democracy, everyone is free to express their opinions. If comments are stupid, I just ignore them and move on” – Jed says.
Sad to hear such words! While we are fighting so hard for fairness and somehow someone just gave such st*p*d comment! It is this kind of attitude that promote racism.
One of the Sarawakian so called “Penchaman” says st*p*d thing too! (Refer to Sin Chiew News, sarawak local news, 4 Sep 2008)
DONT say anything if you DONT know anything! Tolerance is not the word that should be used NOW to show Chinese’s culture.
“All right thinking Malaysians please stand up and fight official sanctioned racism…” – swipenter says. Yeah man! You are absolutely right! ALL Malaysians with the right minds should agree!
#9 by One4All4One on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 2:33 pm
Seems like the bubble of treachery, bigotry, racism, prejudice, discrimination, culture of greed, culture of supremacy, culture of holier-than-thou, religious exploitation, etc., etc. in Malaysia has burst.
Just like everything undesirable, when the limits are reached, the seams would give way, and the worms would be exposed.
Perhaps this is the dawn and tide of good things to come for all Malaysians of every colour and creed? Prayerfully and hopefully.
We Malaysians have been led by the nose for far too long. For any honourable and self-righteous person, half-truths and blatant lies must be very offensive and ought to be rejected and objected to.
Our religious and moral teachings and learning tell us that a wrong is a wrong. Even in the homes we as parents always tell our kids to be honest, honourable, industrious, respectful, and adopt certain codes of behaviour which are socially acceptable. Anything offensive are to be distanced and avoided. In short to practise integrity and accountability. One would rarely go wrong if such guidelines are adopted. In fact, such qualities and virtues are much sought after and accorded respect of the highest order anywhere, any time.
The time has come for some deep soul searching and house cleaning to be done. If the house is not in order and the personal character is not up to par, one can expect problems and troubles to occur. The intensity and severity of the consequences depend on the the size and nature of the disorders. The games and days of “hide and seek” and “hit and run” are over.
Malaysia, just like any other nations, is now at a cross road, facing the realities and consequences of the policies and practices which had been allowed to be adopted and played out in the past 50 years. Judgement days are here.
Shall we allow those policies and practices to proceed unchecked? What are the results, achievements and failures? What should be discarded? What should be refined and kept? What should be changed totally and given an overhaul? What are the new realities? What do the masses want and wish for? What were the drawbacks and shortcomings, pitfalls and blunders?
What can we do to improve the lot our children in terms of education and vocation? What are the demands and challenges that they have to face in their adulthood? What are the best options and choices? Are we doing it right and enough for them? They have to be prepared and be ready to move forward, bettering our own achievements and position.
The government of the day cannot be biased and discriminate against anyone. All must be given equal opportunities to pursue their dreams and passions. Malaysia is blessed with riches, resources and wealth enough for all. If “prosper thy neighbour” policy is to be pursued, what about our own citizenry?
Politics must not be allowed to get into the path of progress and advancement. Politicians must not be allowed to enrich themselves at the expense of the masses. Race-based policies cannot and must not be allowed to take root, let alone adopted and practised by any government agencies.
Leaders at all levels must be free from racial, communal, discriminatory, prejudicial and unacceptable conduct. Instead, a sense of equality and fairness should and must prevail.
Current events in Malaysia show that there is a drastic need to change and to take position, if necessary. The dynamics have changed. The landscape has changed. The people have changed.
The nation can ill afford to be manipulated, plundered, ill-advised, taken advantage of, misguided, divided-and-ruled by unscrupulous and unprincipled parties. It would be disastrous and calamitous to give in to political parties which are lead by opportunistic and greedy members. Parochial views must not be allowed any more. And there is no room for individual interest and avarice.
Collective and equitable policies and practices must be condoned and upheld. That is the only choice and option. And that is the hallmark justice and jurisprudence. The way towards a progressive and competitive community.
#10 by One4All4One on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 2:38 pm
correction:
Collective and equitable policies and practices must be condoned and upheld. That is the only choice and option. And that is the hallmark of justice and jurisprudence. The way towards a progressive and competitive community.
#11 by HJ Angus on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 2:42 pm
As the BTN is part of the official induction for scholars, it is more serious than the racist remarks of UMNO leaders during electioneering.
UMNO’s apology can be taken as a sign that the leaders have seen the writing on the wall and changing, but too slowly and too late.
9 months ago hell could freeze over before such an apology was offered!
Meanwhile to cool tempers a little….
http://malaysiawatch3.blogspot.com/2008/09/bn-parties-theme-song.html
#12 by antiracist on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 2:52 pm
Loliloo..
Apabila orang buka Islam nak bincang tentang Islam yang dia sendiri tak faham ( refer : Bar council forum ) kita kata BOLEH tetapi bila orang nak mempertahankan Islam kita kata Racist/Extremist. Apa hak bar council nak bincang mengenai Islam ? Sebab itulah Yb Zul marah. ITUPUN SUSAH SANGAT NAK FAHAM KA ? BILA KATA DAP CHAVINIST MARAH …TAPI KATA KAT ORANG LAIN TAK PA ? Bila YB Chone Eng cakap di parlimen dan YB Zul cuba memahamkan YB Chong Eng dia kata YB Zul Extremist. Apa ni? Double standard ka ? Bila DAP cakap, yang kita tahu / dengar hanya mempertahankan Hak Cina. Bagaimana dengan slogan Bangsa Malaysia ? Hak bangsa lain bagaimana ? Yang kita dengar sekolah cina sahaja dapat …Orang Cina puas hati la..Sekolah Tamil / Sekolah Agama Rakyat bagaimana? Orang Cina dapat 4000 Ha, India dan Melayu dapat 100ha. Apa jenis pemerintahan Bangsa Malaysia ni ? Inilah sebabnya Orang Melayu selamanya tidak akan menyokong DAP jika sikap ini diteruskan ? Tunjukkan contoh bahawa kita Bangsa Malaysia. Sekadar meluahkan rasa penyokong Pakatan Rakyat. YB LKS kena cari satu alat perpaduan dan bagi saya yang terbaik adalah Bahasa Malaysia mengikut perlembagaan. Jika Bahasa Inggeris maka Orang Melayu akan terasa .
#13 by boh-liao on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 3:12 pm
Najib apologised on behalf of Ahmad Ismail. Why? Ahmad Ismail was only trying to emulate NR in front of NR during the recent by-election campaign.
Ahmad Ismail remembered that NR raised a keris way back in the 1980s and yelled some blood-thirsty words, words more chilling than what Ahmad Ismail said on that day. NR was not hauled up by MM or the polis. Inilah kepimpinan melalui tauladan!
#14 by AhPek on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 3:13 pm
‘As the BTN is part of the official induction for scholars, it is more serious than the racist remarks of UMNO leaders during electioneering.’. HJ Angus.
Certainly it is and if the racist remarks warrant a charge under the sedition act,the BTN indoctrination carried out on young impressionable minds should warrant the total dismantling of the programme.This is an institutionalised attempt at establishing and assuring the standing of Ketuanan Melayu, a truly disgraceful act of racism making Malaysia as perhaps the most racist state on earth today!!
#15 by boh-liao on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 3:15 pm
Old monkeys did, young monkeys follow! Aping lah, the best form of compliment!
#16 by cintanegara on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 3:47 pm
You always talk about Bangsa malaysia…Why did you guys reject the idea of Sekolah Wawasan?
#17 by AsalUsuLMalaysiaHacked on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 4:16 pm
Salam Sejahtera, antiracist…
Disini hendak mengambil kesempatan menerangkan sedikit mengenai bahasa anda adalah tidak diiktiraf negara Malaysia.
Kedua, tuntutan anda mengenai “Dwistandard” di negara ini memang benar kecuali huraian anda mengenai pelampau(extremist), sekolah dan lain-lain.
Memperjuangkan kebebasan saksama antara kaum tanpa mengira perlumbaan dan agama, kaya atau miskin.
Menghapuskan pemerintahan diktator, rasuah, jenayah, kemiskinan yang makin meluasa di negara ini.
Yang paling penting, bukannya ketuanan antara Bangsa rakyat. Akan tetapi, pencapaian kerajaan yang akan memimpin rakyat jelata sehingga mampu bersaing di ruang antara bangsa demi negara dan generasi yang akan datang.
Selamat hari.
#18 by Yee Siew Wah on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 4:19 pm
How can mr.C4 apologised on behalf of this racist “pendatang” idiot.
He should himself apologise for his offensive remarks on the chinese sometime back.
No need to swear. We can hear la.
#19 by Loh on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 4:23 pm
I suggst DAP make police report against the director of Biro Tata Negara (BTN) for sedition. There should be sufficient evidence from the teaching material of the Biro to prove that their contents are seditious.
#20 by smeagroo on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 4:34 pm
dont tell me mr c4 doesnt know abt btn’s brainwashing technics?
and this was the same story told to me by a fren’s girlfren who attended some course and was gvn the same lecture.
these ppl shld be flogged!
#21 by swipenter on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 4:38 pm
As promised by PR, Zul Nordin MP for Kulim to face disciplinary committee this saturday for his role in Bar Council fracas. PR walks the talk and now dont sound too phony as some detractors alleged.
#22 by hosengloong08 on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 4:49 pm
THE way our country perish is by chosing Barang Naik.
The people have voice out.
NOT U MALAY ME CINA DIA INDIA.
NOn NO WE ARE ALL MALAYSIAN FOR GOD SAKE.
#23 by jus legitimum on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 4:57 pm
Why should they waste time in raising issues that will end up in antagonizing the feelings of the whole chinese community?They should instead teach their people to refrain from committing shameless perverse sexual behaviour as illustrated in the press today.Firstly a Segamat school counselling teacher was charged in court for licking the private part of his student and secondly in Kuantan a man was accused of inserting cucumber and police baton into his wife’s vagina while having sexual intercourse with her.Just imagine that……
#24 by EddieTheHead on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 5:00 pm
BTN is institutionalized to propagate racist pride. [deleted]
#25 by dankers on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 5:06 pm
i have just came back from BTN camp.
i reassure that the content of the letter is TRUE.
however, as a non-malay, i wasnt segregated into different groups based on ethnicity but into groups with malays and non-malays.
all in all, in that BTN camp, they are promoting racial differences and indirectly asking malays to unite under UMNO.
its definitely their agenda to pollute young minds.
from outraged BTN-ed student.
#26 by taxpayer on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 5:08 pm
This brain washing started 25 years ago and you know who started it. Next he started the Malaysia Boleh, the tallest building in the world etc, etc. Why, Malay supremacy. Any difference with Nazi Germany?
#27 by goldenscreen on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 5:08 pm
Dear Uncle Lim,
Please investigate the claims made at this website regarding Biro Tatanegara (BTN) indoctrination: http://www.malaysiawaves.com/2008/07/umnos-latest-psy-war-materials-exposed.html
Article reprinted below:
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(NOTE: This is an email i received from a reader exposing the latest brain washing tricks deployed by UMNO’s apparatus called Biro Tatanegara(BTN). Mind you BTN is 100% funded by tax payer’s money)
Biro Tatanegara. Does it ring a bell? Government propaganda or honest student development programme? For those who aren’t aware of it, Biro Tatanegara or BTN for short is under the Jabatan Perdana Menteri and it has several modules which all public university students have to attend in the name of “Student Development”. On the 6th of July 2008 in UiTM Shah Alam, there were three separate talks being held under BTN with the first one being titled “Pendidikan”, second one titled “Ancaman Keselamatan Negara” and the third one titled, “Patriotisma”. Smell anything funny yet? No? Read on. You won’t even have to smell it after you are done reading this. It’ll be stuffed down your throat.
I would like to only focus on the first speaker, Dr. Idris bin Md. Noor. He was supposed to talk about education as that was the title of his speech, but the content was far different. He first went on with the usual introductions but in less than a few minutes, he suddenly touched on the forum on the discussion of social contract in Malaysia that the BAR council organized. He criticized it with all his heart, saying no one should discuss about it as it is unquestionable. Fair enough, I thought at first. Freedom of speech right? But what if he suddenly accuses the “Malay” speaker in the forum, which I’m guessing is Farish A. Noor, as a traitor to the Malay race as a whole? And while he was browsing through his files on the laptop which was projected on the big screen, it was no surprise for me that I saw files entitled “Ketuanan Melayu”. He also then went on about the Malay’s obsession with magic and ghosts, he said that it is all wrong beliefs through the perspective of Islam because if they really could use magic and other dark arts for fighting, then they should kill Karpal Singh with it.
There are so many quotable sentences, if only I could remember it all. He even said, “Kalau ular dengan India depan mata, ketuk India dulu.” He then started to become more impassioned in his speech towards the end, like someone campaigning for a political seat yet failed, and resorted to a multi-purpose hall with bumiputra students. He said so many atrocious things that I will list them down in point form.
-Explained how the Malays aren’t racist but others are racist towards us.
-Bangsa Malaysia does not exist, neither does Malaysian Chinese and Indians, only in the strict Malay, Chinese and Indians. (Interestingly, behind a booklet provided to us, one of the objectives of the programme is to produce a -”Bangsa Malaysia”. Obviously, he was ignorant).
-Bahasa Malaysia does not exist, it is Bahasa Melayu.
-Nothing wrong with waving the Keris.
-Bumiputra hanya 55% di Malaysia, give birth more people!
-The University and Colleges Act was partly made to ensure a Malay Vice-Chancellor in Universities which should be the way.
-Blogs are “berdosa” or sinful.
-Christians will not like Muslims.
But that isn’t even the best part. The best part is, he showed a short film on the
dangers of Zionism and the illegal occupation of Palestine which was probably the only part of the speech I agreed with and I thought to myself this could be the only fact of the speech but surprise, surprise, at the end of the film, there was a montage of so-called Zionist supporters with the pictures of Anwar Ibrahim, Tian Chua, Teresa Kok, Hishamuddin Rais and Ezam Md. Nor. Then a question popped up in my head. Is Ezam still a Zionist supporter since he is in UMNO now? Does that mean the government has a Zionist supporter as well as the opposition? And expectedly, the speaker was being more anti-semitic than anti-zionist. He even explained how the Pakatan Rakyat ruled states are all going down the drain and he says, “this is what you get if you vote for the opposition!” He criticized Anwar Ibrahim and his colleagues so much along with Pakatan Rakyat while being completely oblivious towards Barisan Nasional’s mistakes. As if they have perfect policies.
This was supposed to be a speech touching on education and look how it ended up. It did not even smell anything of education. It was a speech that was not meant for national unity at all. How could it be when you spread hate? I could only sit and ponder quietly while all this was happening. But the speech was not the saddest part. The saddest part was that the majority of students in the hall were cheering him on. I will type out part of the lyrics that were supplied to us, entitled, “Warisan”.
Anak Kecil main api
Terbakar hatinya yang sepi
Air mata darah bercampur keringat
Bumi dipijak milik orang
Nenek moyang kaya raya
Tergadai seluruh harta benda
Akibat engketa sesamalah kita
Cinta lenyap di arus zaman ini
Indahnya bumi kita ini
Warisan berkurun lamanya
Hasil mengalir ke tangan yang lain
Pribumi merintih sendiri
Melayukan gagah di nusantara.
Who were those words referring to? Foreign powers or non-malays?
Perfect welcome to the new intake of University Students. Please spread this to others. People need to know.
I know you should.
written by A Worried Student,
06.07.2008
#28 by dankers on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 5:16 pm
and about reporting this to the police as sedition is impossible.
its true that we have given teaching materials. but in the end, those materials were collected and we were ask to merahsiakan everything have been taught in BTN.
#29 by goldenscreen on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 5:17 pm
Comments from the blog posting above:
Anonymous said…
A friend of mine was of those who was there that day. He’s a native from Sabah, a Christian and the first sentence he said when he met me (after the BTN) was “Saya sedih” (I’m sad).
He went on saying that he never heard of anything like this his whole life in Sabah.
Besides all that was mentioned in the post, he said that the saddest part for him was when the speaker starts lowering his voice and said “Orang Kristian tak pernah suka orang Islam” (The christians never like the muslims). He explained to me that in church people would pray for the well-being of the muslims especially those who in trouble and for unity and peace.
He addded that the Pendidikan Moral should as well be abolished from schools if this continues. “What happened to Atan, Ali and Muthu?, because that is what kept us (in Sabah) together despite having different races in the same class or anywhere. No wonder people from the semenanjung like Sabah, Sarawak”.
He went on, “Hatred should never be planted into the hearts of the people in order to have progress and to be competetive. I never hated the jews but i’m against the zionist. But he speaks as if we should kill all jews. I’ve never even felt the urge to hate another race. Maybe pendidikan moral should be compulsory to all including muslims because majority present that day were agreeing to what the speaker said.”
Being a person aware of the issues in this country, I listen to him attentively and said that this is all the government’s propaganda of which he should not in any way get influenced. I know him, and he is also aware of all of this government stuff, but he still felt shocked and sad and ashamed (on behalf of the malays) to have and educated speaker to talk like that.
I’m a malay and i’m used to hearing my fellow malay friends saying these speeches are fiery and good although i know that these speeches are one of the many obstacles from unity and it’s just another lame way for the gov to spread its propaganda. But it striked me when another person who is not of the Chinese, Indian and Malay came to comment about it.
This should not continue because i haven’t attended BTN yet. I don’t want to waste my time listenng to all this. I prefer Ali, Muthu and Atan. Just like one of the best pendidikan Islam class i had… the one i didn’t attend because i sneaked into the pendidikan moral class.
#30 by ENDANGERED HORNBILL on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 5:33 pm
Obviuosly, the rot is more than skin deep! This racist BN indoctrination has been going on for decades. It needs more than a sea change and years to cleanse the nation of this illness just like it will take years to eradicate the education rot, the judicial malaise etc. etc.
#31 by dankers on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 5:36 pm
another thing to add on,
i think why speeches in BTN were agreed by most participants is because of fear of revoking their scholarship.
do you know that BTN is a pre-requirement for students to study overseas? you cant fly if you do not pass BTN camp.
BTN camp have assessments. objective and subjective. objective part is 60 questions. as for subjective marks, it is given by the faciliatators and is on their will.
i HAD to agree to everything they say even you are not. not worth it to fight them with their fingers on my neck.
#32 by pky103 on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 5:54 pm
- I am extremely saddened by this piece of news.
#33 by AsalUsuLMalaysiaHacked on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 6:03 pm
This bunch of hypocrites shouldn’t be loose.
That was i suspect from previous post, they might start plotting choas if they loose their power and comes state of emergency for take over!.
I really hope some student would have recored a vids as evidence,
This is serious matters, YB Kit should look into.
Must not let this culprits ruin the young minds for the sake of their own gain.
#34 by taiking on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 6:18 pm
BTN is actually umno’s unique way of showing us how silly, no STUPID, they are.
The way it was done is stupid.
The content of the whole thing is stupid.
The speakers are stupid.
I mean how else can they do it except in the stupidest way conceivable.
“Stupid” is their middle name.
I am glad to know that at least a sizeable number of malays in the country decided to distance themselves from umno.
Its a good thing for them to have done.
Dont associate yourself or get yourself associated with umno.
I mean would a certain Ahmad be proud to introduce himself as “I am an umno member and so my name is Mr Ahmad Stupid Abdullah”.
No way. No sensible malay would want that.
Ask around among our malay friends.
They are not stupid and the last thing they would wish for is to be seen as stupid or described as one.
After all these, I realise that if one were to look hard enough (I did) one may see a strange connection of sorts between these two words:
“UMNO” and “STUPID”.
Need I say more.
Oh yes I need to add one final point. Malays not stupid. Its stupid umno.
#35 by pangwl88 on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 6:45 pm
Is this Racism? or has it already become Nazism???
#36 by k1980 on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 7:20 pm
Two monkeys cannot share the same coconut tree
http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Thursday/National/2334291/Article/index_html
#37 by ahming on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 7:27 pm
Im studying in one of the IPTA.Our Uni made it compulsory for us to attend the BTN camp by telling us that if we dont attend,we will not graduate from the Uni.On the other hand,My friend in UMS doesnt even know what the heck is BTN camp.It’s not like what my Uni told us, Compulsory.so it’s like we are being drag into a BN’s political plot.
The camp is a pro- BN campaign (everyone in the camp Malay,Chinese and Indian knows it )and also a racism camp . The speaker talk about the social contract,about the hak keistimewaan melayu,how May 13 happen,NEP,The 12th General election and so on.And also,quite a few times, mention ‘Cina boleh balik China tapi Negara China pun tidak mahu terima.Sama juga dengan orang India’ sort of statement.
One of the speaker even mention your name Mr Lim,saying you are Bodoh, and also mention about Anwar-Saiful case,how Anwar will do to the country if he gains power,and ofcourse the still undergoing by election.Unfortunately all of our handphone were taken away by the facilitator, so no voice or video are recorded.
Ofcourse among the participant,some of the Malay agree with the speaker but quite a number of the Malay doesnt and definitely no Chinese and Indian are please with the speaker.
This BTN camp which i went to, has more to do with politic rather than about the races.I din gain anything from the camp except more dissapointment with the current government. IT’s a waste of time and money of the people to organise this kind of camp.and again What the heck does Biro Tata Negara do?
#38 by Loh on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 7:55 pm
Ahmad Ismail has said tht he would not apologize. The Cabinet decided that he should. One wonders whether the Cabinet could do anything to Ahmad for not apologizing.
As a UMNO Division Chief, he might have something to lose if he is a member of the state government. But Penang is under Pakatan governemnt, so he has lost all, and nothing left to lose. On the contrary, he does control some votes which somebody fighthing for UMNO party position is dying to get. It appears that UMNO local leaders are getting more powerful when they are not in state government, and the UMNO higherups are more dependent on them than the other way around. So President AAB will have to start apologizing on behalf of local UMNO leaders.
Well we know AAB never meant what he said, and we believe that he will not mean what he is about to say now. That may be the reason why Najib takes over the role to apologize. Has Najib taken over the power, like his father during the last days of Tunku’s Administration?
#39 by antiracist on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 8:15 pm
Dear AsalusulMalaysiaHacked,
Anda rakyat Malaysia, maka belajar Bahasa Malaysia yang BETUL. Inilah alat perpaduan sebenar. Bangsa Malaysia ? Kenapa tolak sekolah wawasan ?
#40 by dasty on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 8:23 pm
It’s already hard for a non-malay to be accepted into BTN. Even so, they had to endure disgusting speeches.
Don’t they even feel shame by uttering such shameful words from their mouth? I bet not as they thought they are superior, so superior that nothing that they do or say is wrong.
People should really come to Sabah or Sarawak to see how different races live peacefully together. The difference is huge.
#41 by lovemalaysia on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 8:43 pm
just now TV news, Ahmad Ismail said he wont apology and said jika dia berbuat demikian, it only “jaga hati org cina, tapi melukai hati melayu”, what kind of such statement? then he said Gerakan and MCA all lose in Penang seats, but 11 UMNO seats won and he will stand by his statement
any stren action can be taken? Pak Lah and Cabinet urged him to apology, is he the king of this country?
#42 by One4All4One on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 9:31 pm
If the Bukit Bendera UMNO branch chief is the role model for his party members, then Malaysia may descend into political disaster.
There is simply no room for an egoistic and self-important politician in multi-racial and multi-religious Malaysia. All right thinking Malaysians of all colour and creed cannot accept such a parochial and confrontational approach towards society at large. A leader is a leader to all, and not to just a specific segment of society. This is expected of all leaders and aspiring leaders, no matter their political affiliations, with no exceptions.
A man who finds it so difficult to extend a humble apology even if warranted, is no man for a leader.
There seems to be no integrity, humility, dignity, accountability in words and action emanating from the man himself.
Arrogance and self-importance are offered instead.
Not that the people cannot accommodate reason and chose to be unreasonable, but if explanations are not forthcoming, one cannot be blamed for making a judgement.
#43 by justice fighter on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 9:44 pm
Ahmad Ismail: I’ll not apologise
Athi Veeranggan | Sep 4, 08 6:14pm
The elusive Ahmad Ismail, the man at the centre of a ‘racial slur’ controversy, said today he would not apologise even after the deputy prime minister has already done so on his behalf.
http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/89112
#44 by max2811 on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 9:45 pm
I am glad you have brought up this issue which I have commented on with regard to the UMNO racists. MCA knows about it but nothing was done. I have complained to party leaders many years back.
I am still hoping to hear some good news come tomorrow morning. MCA, MIC and Gerakan walk out on UMNO. But maybe I can only dream about it tonight. Liow has just clenched his fist and said he would lick UMNO’s balls. Crazy doctor also said he would lick UMNO’s ass.
The leaders of these parties have so much at stake that they are not willing to give up this ATM machine. Luckily, I threw away my MCA membership card last year.
#45 by pjboy on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 10:01 pm
I have only 1 question to Datuk Ahmad Ismail: are you a human on this planet?
If there is such thing as “pendatang”, then there is such thing as “pe-lincah” or “leaches”.
#46 by katdog on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 10:05 pm
MCA+Gerakan+MIC are dead. They claim to be defenders of chinese/Indian rights but in truth they where just colluding with UMNO for scraps of rewards.
The only reason why non-malays supported them was because they did not want to be branded as anti-development and traitors and wanted their communities to remain within the good graces of the ruling government. For their communities would suffer from UMNO if UMNO felt that they had been ‘betrayed’ by the pendatang non Malays.
If PR is able to form the government what would the likes of MCA be able to offer? MCA has offered nothing substantial to the chinese community except claiming to fight for more ‘representation’ (whatever that means).
#47 by aquaimplotec on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 10:13 pm
The Earth Charter
In order to build a sustainable Bangsa Malaysia community, the nation must renew their commitment to the Constitution of Malaysia, fulfill their obligations under existing agreements, and support the implementation of the Bangsa Malaysia Charter principals with a legally binding instrument of development. We must all affirm faith in the inherent dignity of all human beings and the intellectual, artistic, ethical, and spiritual potential of humanity. In other words, faith in man rather than religious faith.
#48 by pjboy on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 10:20 pm
There is only 1 race in this planet & that is the HUMAN RACE. If Datuk AI feels that he is more superior than the HUMAN RACE, then he is a threat to the HUMAN RACE. He certainly does not belong to Earth. He has not only offended Chinese community, what about those who are of mix parentage ie Chinese & Malay. There are also many Chinese by blood but brought up by Malay family.
I have to say that the “pendatang” is proud to be “pendatang”. The “pendatang” is welcomed in any parts of the world. The “pendatang” always contribute to the economy of any host country in the world. The “pendatang” is the world’s largest population. The “pendatang” has contributed many technologies the world is using today. The “pendatang” created goodwill all over the world since the first dynasty, more so with the famous Chinese Muslim Cheng Ho.
Ever wondered why there was HANG Lipo & then HANG Tuah, HANG Jebat, HANG Kasturi, HANG Lekir? Ever wondered why the Malacca Sultanate thrived during the 14th & 15th century? Malacca was under the protection of the Chinese Emperor. HANG Lipo & her 4 body guards were sent to Malacca as a goodwill to the then Sultan Mahmud Shah (…hope someone can correct me if wrong…).
Where was Parameswara when Cheng Ho was sailing around the world in the 14th & 15th century? Historical evidence already appear that the “pendatang” circumnavigated the world. Read the book 1421 by Kevin Menzies. This “pendatang” is a MUSLIM, of Persian origin born in China, trusted by the Emperor. The Emperor was not a racist. Neither was he a world conqueror.
I think Datuk AI should go back to pre-school all over again & get his history right about the “pendatang”.
I don’t care if I am Chinese, Malay or Indian. I am proud to be a “pendatang” of Malaysia. The only people that are not “pendatang” are the ORANG ASLI. I don’t see any of those features on Datuk AI. DNA test anyone?
#49 by tenaciousB on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 10:25 pm
MCA, MIC and Gerakan have swindled the peoples money in the name of the race and groups they represented. They do not deserve a second chance at anything. The people have voted them out and they should stay out or dissolve to oblivion. Sometimes one can compare inhumane characteristics to the late dictatorial leaders to that of these parties. They were all interested in personal wealth…people like samy vellu still does not get it, how dumb could you become or perhaps to word it right how ignorant can one get it disregarding the peoples voice of voting him and his party out. Why has a human such as him have absolutely no shame, one arguement would be he has been in power too long and desensitized in feeling shame nor guilt.
Enough said about these useless leaders, all they deserve is public humiliation and rebuke!!!!
#50 by pjboy on Thursday, 4 September 2008 - 10:46 pm
We have 3rd world mentality ministers. With millions if not billions in the bank account & political power, guilt & shame is like toilet paper to these people. Poor people are treated like dirt while they sing to be their protectors. How many of our previous & current ministers are having world class education background? Our PM don’t even have a clue about DNA.