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		<title>By: ckyap</title>
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		<dc:creator>ckyap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 04:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best joke of the day. Thanks for cheering up my day, PM.</description>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
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		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;.....you should loosen your sensitivity level and not feel so hard-done by other people’s writing style.&quot; zak_hammaad

Now it is about &#039;sensitivity&#039;. You just don&#039;t get it. Do you?? Don&#039;t confuse the issue.

&quot;Other people&#039;s writing style&quot;?? Your bad English is no excuse for a writing style.  Style is something you don’t have. Your haughtiness never fails to amaze me!

But at least I see you&#039;re making an effort at not talking down to readers the way you started out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;..you should loosen your sensitivity level and not feel so hard-done by other people’s writing style.&#8221; zak_hammaad</p>
<p>Now it is about &#8216;sensitivity&#8217;. You just don&#8217;t get it. Do you?? Don&#8217;t confuse the issue.</p>
<p>&#8220;Other people&#8217;s writing style&#8221;?? Your bad English is no excuse for a writing style.  Style is something you don’t have. Your haughtiness never fails to amaze me!</p>
<p>But at least I see you&#8217;re making an effort at not talking down to readers the way you started out.</p>
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		<title>By: One4All4One</title>
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		<dc:creator>One4All4One</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are just reading  FLIPS and FLOPS in the blogs and postings nowadays.

Nothing new and enlightening.

Guess this is just what it is all about.

What can be done to enable the nation to move forward?

I suppose only a concerted, well thought out and executed plan, which involves a representative and major portion of the rakyat would do the job.  Of course saying is always easier than doing.

But then again, if the seed of change ( for the better, of course) is not sown, how could we expect the &quot;tree of our dreams&quot; to be grown?

A NEW MALAYSIA has to be pursued for the sake of the future. It is a changed world, and is ever changing. How prepared are we in facing new realities? 

The path to the future certainly cannot be the one the nation is taking then and now. It may be insufficient. It has to be based on a broader and more universal and global approach. We have to fight the parochial, racial and communal model used now. We have to transcend that, like it or not. We have to take a more educated and knowledge-based module. Anything less will not do.

Any takers? Only genuine, true to self, patriotic, selfless, open minded, tireless individuals would be well suited to generate the movement.

There is no room for bigotry. No room for back-biting. No room for hypocrisy. Certainly no room for the faint hearted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are just reading  FLIPS and FLOPS in the blogs and postings nowadays.</p>
<p>Nothing new and enlightening.</p>
<p>Guess this is just what it is all about.</p>
<p>What can be done to enable the nation to move forward?</p>
<p>I suppose only a concerted, well thought out and executed plan, which involves a representative and major portion of the rakyat would do the job.  Of course saying is always easier than doing.</p>
<p>But then again, if the seed of change ( for the better, of course) is not sown, how could we expect the &#8220;tree of our dreams&#8221; to be grown?</p>
<p>A NEW MALAYSIA has to be pursued for the sake of the future. It is a changed world, and is ever changing. How prepared are we in facing new realities? </p>
<p>The path to the future certainly cannot be the one the nation is taking then and now. It may be insufficient. It has to be based on a broader and more universal and global approach. We have to fight the parochial, racial and communal model used now. We have to transcend that, like it or not. We have to take a more educated and knowledge-based module. Anything less will not do.</p>
<p>Any takers? Only genuine, true to self, patriotic, selfless, open minded, tireless individuals would be well suited to generate the movement.</p>
<p>There is no room for bigotry. No room for back-biting. No room for hypocrisy. Certainly no room for the faint hearted.</p>
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		<title>By: zak_hammaad</title>
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		<dc:creator>zak_hammaad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 08:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Talking down&quot;? Why is it that other&#039;s have to conform to your style of acceptable behaviour when posting? If you think I am &quot;talking down&quot; maybe you should loosen your sensitivity level and not feel so hard-done by other people&#039;s writing style.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Talking down&#8221;? Why is it that other&#8217;s have to conform to your style of acceptable behaviour when posting? If you think I am &#8220;talking down&#8221; maybe you should loosen your sensitivity level and not feel so hard-done by other people&#8217;s writing style.</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
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		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;undergrad, seems like I have become used to clarifying my statements to you each time you are unable to comprehend them&quot; zak_hammaad

Each time I&#039;m unable to comprehend them?!  We can do without the arrogance!

What&#039;s so difficult to understand what you wrote? You identified the problem as being a police force that is &quot;subservient&quot; to the leadership. My response to that is the military (including the police) is supposed to be subservient to the civilian political leadership. Malaysia is a democracy ruled by an elected government and not by a military junta.

Now you&#039;re referring to the &quot;dilemma where the police will continue to obey orders whether they are right or wrong&quot;. In other words you are suggesting that since the country’s elected leaders have lost their moral legitimacy to rule because of the widespread abuse of power and the corruption,  the police should take over!

The role of the police is to maintain public order (the military to protect the country against its external enemies). Are you saying the police has  been given orders which are different? Do you know something we don’t?

It is easy to blame readers for their lack of powers of comprehension when the problem is your lack of ability to express yourself accurately. I think it is time  you stop talking down on readers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;undergrad, seems like I have become used to clarifying my statements to you each time you are unable to comprehend them&#8221; zak_hammaad</p>
<p>Each time I&#8217;m unable to comprehend them?!  We can do without the arrogance!</p>
<p>What&#8217;s so difficult to understand what you wrote? You identified the problem as being a police force that is &#8220;subservient&#8221; to the leadership. My response to that is the military (including the police) is supposed to be subservient to the civilian political leadership. Malaysia is a democracy ruled by an elected government and not by a military junta.</p>
<p>Now you&#8217;re referring to the &#8220;dilemma where the police will continue to obey orders whether they are right or wrong&#8221;. In other words you are suggesting that since the country’s elected leaders have lost their moral legitimacy to rule because of the widespread abuse of power and the corruption,  the police should take over!</p>
<p>The role of the police is to maintain public order (the military to protect the country against its external enemies). Are you saying the police has  been given orders which are different? Do you know something we don’t?</p>
<p>It is easy to blame readers for their lack of powers of comprehension when the problem is your lack of ability to express yourself accurately. I think it is time  you stop talking down on readers!</p>
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		<title>By: zak_hammaad</title>
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		<dc:creator>zak_hammaad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>undergrad, seems like I have become used to clarifying my statements to you each time you are unable to comprehend them :^)

You are correct in that the security apparatus of the country serves the orders from the top; however where you have a &quot;shameless leadership&quot; that abuses the powers it is bestowed with, we have a dilemma where the police will continue to obey orders whether they are right or wrong. The criticism is of the shameless leadership and not the subservience of the police. I will make a note to make everything as clear as possible when you are around... Adios.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>undergrad, seems like I have become used to clarifying my statements to you each time you are unable to comprehend them :^)</p>
<p>You are correct in that the security apparatus of the country serves the orders from the top; however where you have a &#8220;shameless leadership&#8221; that abuses the powers it is bestowed with, we have a dilemma where the police will continue to obey orders whether they are right or wrong. The criticism is of the shameless leadership and not the subservience of the police. I will make a note to make everything as clear as possible when you are around&#8230; Adios.</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
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		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>zak_hammaad Says: 

Today at 17: 00.43 (5 hours ago) 
When you have a police force that is subservient to the current shameless leadership, how can anyone expect ...&quot;


Malaysia is not a military dictatorship. Has never been. The country&#039;s police force and all the armed forces are necessarily subservient to the civilian political leadership. Another instance of your much lauded liberal use of terms??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>zak_hammaad Says: </p>
<p>Today at 17: 00.43 (5 hours ago)<br />
When you have a police force that is subservient to the current shameless leadership, how can anyone expect &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Malaysia is not a military dictatorship. Has never been. The country&#8217;s police force and all the armed forces are necessarily subservient to the civilian political leadership. Another instance of your much lauded liberal use of terms??</p>
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		<title>By: kosmoalpha</title>
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		<dc:creator>kosmoalpha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>umno moves are rather obvious,to break on the main link of pakatan rakyat,by hook or by crook..nail anwar;then stirring shit between dap n pas..if they come thro&#039; everything would be de javu,they would be then able restart sodomising the rakyat n nation all the way by hiding behind the racial profiling curtain again,pathetic jus pathetic!!when are malaysian going to wake up????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>umno moves are rather obvious,to break on the main link of pakatan rakyat,by hook or by crook..nail anwar;then stirring shit between dap n pas..if they come thro&#8217; everything would be de javu,they would be then able restart sodomising the rakyat n nation all the way by hiding behind the racial profiling curtain again,pathetic jus pathetic!!when are malaysian going to wake up????</p>
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		<title>By: AA234567</title>
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		<dc:creator>AA234567</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neither Pas nor Dap ideas will.

Whichever party fails to uphold their duty should be voted out.
Karpal is pressing the button while Nik Aziz is smart knowing that the greed-UMNO will not agreed to disolve or they will lose all their &#039;gold mines&#039;.
Thats why we need a two party system (whether BN,PR or others composition) to have a check and balance for the various races and the economic development of this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neither Pas nor Dap ideas will.</p>
<p>Whichever party fails to uphold their duty should be voted out.<br />
Karpal is pressing the button while Nik Aziz is smart knowing that the greed-UMNO will not agreed to disolve or they will lose all their &#8216;gold mines&#8217;.<br />
Thats why we need a two party system (whether BN,PR or others composition) to have a check and balance for the various races and the economic development of this country.</p>
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		<title>By: zak_hammaad</title>
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		<dc:creator>zak_hammaad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AA, what makes you believe that Pakatan would be any better at leadership than BN? Knowing the amphibious nature of Anwar and the secular agenda of DAP and the Islamic agenda of PAS, do you not think that the BN has more synchrony amongst their various parties than Pakatan? And despite this struggle to find a common vision to move Malaysia forward. Change for sure is long over-due in, but I doubt it will come via BN or Pakatan; your views will be much appreciated.

PAS&#039;s vision of Malaysia as far as I have read and seen in Kelantan and heard is NOT about &quot;Islamic state&quot; as per say, it is moreso about Islamic administration and prevention of social ills. As for hudood laws, I think you need to stop mimicking global media misinformation and understand it not just about punishment; Shar&#039;iah as a whole is a comprehensive way of life that covers everything. That&#039;s why secularism as the DAP understand it, is a dead-end idea because Malaysian demography will not accept nor allow it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AA, what makes you believe that Pakatan would be any better at leadership than BN? Knowing the amphibious nature of Anwar and the secular agenda of DAP and the Islamic agenda of PAS, do you not think that the BN has more synchrony amongst their various parties than Pakatan? And despite this struggle to find a common vision to move Malaysia forward. Change for sure is long over-due in, but I doubt it will come via BN or Pakatan; your views will be much appreciated.</p>
<p>PAS&#8217;s vision of Malaysia as far as I have read and seen in Kelantan and heard is NOT about &#8220;Islamic state&#8221; as per say, it is moreso about Islamic administration and prevention of social ills. As for hudood laws, I think you need to stop mimicking global media misinformation and understand it not just about punishment; Shar&#8217;iah as a whole is a comprehensive way of life that covers everything. That&#8217;s why secularism as the DAP understand it, is a dead-end idea because Malaysian demography will not accept nor allow it.</p>
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		<title>By: AA234567</title>
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		<dc:creator>AA234567</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uncle Kit,

We were told to break and smash the &#039;back-bone&#039; of UMNO while attending your ceramah before the GE. True enough we smashed half of it and now UMNO is crawing and using the last straw to play with PAS.

And the other half of the UMNO &#039;backbone&#039; is waiting to be smashed with the rising of Anwar&#039;s popularity.

PAS will never rule this country simply because the majority of the rakyat esp. the non-Muslim and also a large numbers of Muslim is dead agaisnt the Islamic state &amp; Hudud laws.

While the PR is struggling to unite can you please ask Karpal to keep his bloody mouth shut? He always jump the to show he&#039;s the lion of Jelutong! 
Most of the statement he made is helping the BN media to run down the PR and implicate DAP is anti-Malay &amp; Islam.
I think he should spend more time with his grand-children instead of making unnecessary remarks!!

See what is reported in the MSM today and I wont be surprise Karpal will retort that DAP will breakaway from PR in tomorrow&#039;s newspaper!!!

Handle UMNO first and then settle with PAS later.
I still respect you but.... pls lah Karpal learn to play politcics too!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uncle Kit,</p>
<p>We were told to break and smash the &#8216;back-bone&#8217; of UMNO while attending your ceramah before the GE. True enough we smashed half of it and now UMNO is crawing and using the last straw to play with PAS.</p>
<p>And the other half of the UMNO &#8216;backbone&#8217; is waiting to be smashed with the rising of Anwar&#8217;s popularity.</p>
<p>PAS will never rule this country simply because the majority of the rakyat esp. the non-Muslim and also a large numbers of Muslim is dead agaisnt the Islamic state &amp; Hudud laws.</p>
<p>While the PR is struggling to unite can you please ask Karpal to keep his bloody mouth shut? He always jump the to show he&#8217;s the lion of Jelutong!<br />
Most of the statement he made is helping the BN media to run down the PR and implicate DAP is anti-Malay &amp; Islam.<br />
I think he should spend more time with his grand-children instead of making unnecessary remarks!!</p>
<p>See what is reported in the MSM today and I wont be surprise Karpal will retort that DAP will breakaway from PR in tomorrow&#8217;s newspaper!!!</p>
<p>Handle UMNO first and then settle with PAS later.<br />
I still respect you but&#8230;. pls lah Karpal learn to play politcics too!!</p>
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		<title>By: AhPek</title>
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		<dc:creator>AhPek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And you&#039;re more concerned with issues concerning priveleged information between doctor and patient?? Priveleged information between attorney and client,between bank and client and doctor and patient has exception.When it involves a crime,the judge will agree to the disclosure.&quot;. undergrad 2.

Sure he has to for the medical report is one of the most important if not the most important factor in establishing the truth or otherwise of a rape or sodomy case.So Lextcs&#039;s your overzealousness in placing utmost importance to priveleged information between doctor and patient is out of sync in the administration of justice and as such unwarranted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And you&#8217;re more concerned with issues concerning priveleged information between doctor and patient?? Priveleged information between attorney and client,between bank and client and doctor and patient has exception.When it involves a crime,the judge will agree to the disclosure.&#8221;. undergrad 2.</p>
<p>Sure he has to for the medical report is one of the most important if not the most important factor in establishing the truth or otherwise of a rape or sodomy case.So Lextcs&#8217;s your overzealousness in placing utmost importance to priveleged information between doctor and patient is out of sync in the administration of justice and as such unwarranted.</p>
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		<title>By: zak_hammaad</title>
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		<dc:creator>zak_hammaad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you have a police force that is subservient to the current shameless leadership, how can anyone expect them to hasten closure on the whole saga? I think Najib will want to drag this on as long as he can so that Anwar can be forced not to contest in any by-election. Worst case scenario for Anwar would be to be found guilty and barred from politics for another few years. I think the former is more likely.

Machinations of dirty politics at their best in good ol Malaysia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you have a police force that is subservient to the current shameless leadership, how can anyone expect them to hasten closure on the whole saga? I think Najib will want to drag this on as long as he can so that Anwar can be forced not to contest in any by-election. Worst case scenario for Anwar would be to be found guilty and barred from politics for another few years. I think the former is more likely.</p>
<p>Machinations of dirty politics at their best in good ol Malaysia.</p>
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		<title>By: PSM</title>
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		<dc:creator>PSM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 07:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spare a thought for this courageous Doctor (&amp; his family). God give them strenght &amp; protect them from our Police!God help Malaysia for we are surely in the clutches of the Devil &amp; his Minions!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spare a thought for this courageous Doctor (&amp; his family). God give them strenght &amp; protect them from our Police!God help Malaysia for we are surely in the clutches of the Devil &amp; his Minions!</p>
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		<title>By: Evenmind</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evenmind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing you can be sure of : UMNO is sodomizing           the  whole nation, and PAS is soon joining the fray , where race based politics is going to rein supreme, why don&#039;t they have an orgy between themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing you can be sure of : UMNO is sodomizing           the  whole nation, and PAS is soon joining the fray , where race based politics is going to rein supreme, why don&#8217;t they have an orgy between themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: One4All4One</title>
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		<dc:creator>One4All4One</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 05:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is all still flip-flopping..

Nothing changes for now..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is all still flip-flopping..</p>
<p>Nothing changes for now..</p>
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		<title>By: m.hwang</title>
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		<dc:creator>m.hwang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 04:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;TRO (To rule out), a medical short word, actually mean a certain condition “cannot be rule out”, and does NOT mean certain condition is “ruled out”, as implied by RPK.

I therefore, see RPK is trying to confuse everyone.

In addition, that piece of record is totally useless in court, as it is grossly incomplete and the examination was conducted to investigate the cause of tenesmus and not ’sodomize’. 

As doctors, we treat all patients’ records as ‘private and confidential’. We therefore condemn any act of revealing patients’ medical records in the public.

While the investigation is still on-going, I think it is just fair that readers should refrain from commenting anything that is insulting either to both parties.

Lastly, please leave all doctors out of this political garbage.&#039;

Dr. Agon.

Dear Dr.Agon,

I commend doctors who observe the sanctity of professional priviledge however in my opinion RPK does not have such a doctor patient relationship with the patient. The chain has been broken the moment the report left the hospital grounds.

If this document is genuine then we as laypersons know a few things that even doctors cannot deny:

1. The complainant complained that some plastic item was shoved into his a**;
2. There was no bleeding in the a**;
3. No blood in the stool;
4. No tear in the a**;
5.No wound or injury to the a**; AND
6. No infection in the a**.

There is no need to even argue about the meaning of TRO.

From the above we can deduce the following, either:
1. the Complainant was playing doctor with his aunt and accidentally did one onto himself; or
2. the Complainant sat on a plastic bottle on his couch which somehow hurt his a** but did not cause serious injury; or
3. someone who had an axe to grind with the Complainant shoved a plastic bottle into his a** but did not cause serious injury.
 
In a &#039;nut&#039; shell, the Complainant was NOT sodomised as there was no evidence of carnal intercourse. If he was not sodomised, how can Anwar be accused to be a sodomite? How can RPK be confusing us with TRO when we the report is so clear without even deciphering the meaning of TRO?

The main point is if the accused is not Anwar, this entire complain would have been closed and with the accuser facing the possibility of a criminal or civil suit for defamation. Why accord such treatment not in accordance with proper procedure just because it is Anwar? Why is there no police report? What rule of law is the government talking about when the police cannot even provide Anwar with his most basic of rights i.e. the right to know the basis of the complaint agaist him?

Justice must not only be done but must be seen to be done. What we have seen so far is a blatant attempt to disregard proper investigation procedures when there is insubstantial evidence to charge Anwar. The perception of the public is the police is trying to doctor evidence against Anwar and it is imperative that they should quash such perception immediately to restore an already battered reputation.

This document is not useless in court. Alone it will cause the case against Anwar to crumble because it will show malice. However I do admit that without the doctor who wrote this it may not be admissible. Let&#039;s see whether we will have another Balasubra disappearing act.

On your plea to leave all doctors out of this, we can&#039;t because there are too many instances of doctoring, medical or otherwise,  in this case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;TRO (To rule out), a medical short word, actually mean a certain condition “cannot be rule out”, and does NOT mean certain condition is “ruled out”, as implied by RPK.</p>
<p>I therefore, see RPK is trying to confuse everyone.</p>
<p>In addition, that piece of record is totally useless in court, as it is grossly incomplete and the examination was conducted to investigate the cause of tenesmus and not ’sodomize’. </p>
<p>As doctors, we treat all patients’ records as ‘private and confidential’. We therefore condemn any act of revealing patients’ medical records in the public.</p>
<p>While the investigation is still on-going, I think it is just fair that readers should refrain from commenting anything that is insulting either to both parties.</p>
<p>Lastly, please leave all doctors out of this political garbage.&#8217;</p>
<p>Dr. Agon.</p>
<p>Dear Dr.Agon,</p>
<p>I commend doctors who observe the sanctity of professional priviledge however in my opinion RPK does not have such a doctor patient relationship with the patient. The chain has been broken the moment the report left the hospital grounds.</p>
<p>If this document is genuine then we as laypersons know a few things that even doctors cannot deny:</p>
<p>1. The complainant complained that some plastic item was shoved into his a**;<br />
2. There was no bleeding in the a**;<br />
3. No blood in the stool;<br />
4. No tear in the a**;<br />
5.No wound or injury to the a**; AND<br />
6. No infection in the a**.</p>
<p>There is no need to even argue about the meaning of TRO.</p>
<p>From the above we can deduce the following, either:<br />
1. the Complainant was playing doctor with his aunt and accidentally did one onto himself; or<br />
2. the Complainant sat on a plastic bottle on his couch which somehow hurt his a** but did not cause serious injury; or<br />
3. someone who had an axe to grind with the Complainant shoved a plastic bottle into his a** but did not cause serious injury.</p>
<p>In a &#8216;nut&#8217; shell, the Complainant was NOT sodomised as there was no evidence of carnal intercourse. If he was not sodomised, how can Anwar be accused to be a sodomite? How can RPK be confusing us with TRO when we the report is so clear without even deciphering the meaning of TRO?</p>
<p>The main point is if the accused is not Anwar, this entire complain would have been closed and with the accuser facing the possibility of a criminal or civil suit for defamation. Why accord such treatment not in accordance with proper procedure just because it is Anwar? Why is there no police report? What rule of law is the government talking about when the police cannot even provide Anwar with his most basic of rights i.e. the right to know the basis of the complaint agaist him?</p>
<p>Justice must not only be done but must be seen to be done. What we have seen so far is a blatant attempt to disregard proper investigation procedures when there is insubstantial evidence to charge Anwar. The perception of the public is the police is trying to doctor evidence against Anwar and it is imperative that they should quash such perception immediately to restore an already battered reputation.</p>
<p>This document is not useless in court. Alone it will cause the case against Anwar to crumble because it will show malice. However I do admit that without the doctor who wrote this it may not be admissible. Let&#8217;s see whether we will have another Balasubra disappearing act.</p>
<p>On your plea to leave all doctors out of this, we can&#8217;t because there are too many instances of doctoring, medical or otherwise,  in this case.</p>
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		<title>By: oknyua</title>
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		<dc:creator>oknyua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 04:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lextcs, let me issue a chalenge to you. 

1. What basic theological principle is HUDUD based on? 
2. Where and how was the development of HUDUD from inception to the present age?
3. What ground is the application of Hudud valid today, and what are the exceptions?

I issue this challenge because you have been promoting Hudud but I seriously doubt your understanding on the subject. Otherwise, please don&#039;t promote something you have little or no understanding about. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lextcs, let me issue a chalenge to you. </p>
<p>1. What basic theological principle is HUDUD based on?<br />
2. Where and how was the development of HUDUD from inception to the present age?<br />
3. What ground is the application of Hudud valid today, and what are the exceptions?</p>
<p>I issue this challenge because you have been promoting Hudud but I seriously doubt your understanding on the subject. Otherwise, please don&#8217;t promote something you have little or no understanding about. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: i_love_malaysia</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/07/28/police-cannot-be-silent-a-single-second-latest-shocking-revelation-on-2nd-anwar-sodomy-charge/comment-page-4/#comment-120331</link>
		<dc:creator>i_love_malaysia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 04:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some leaders of PAS are happily played into the hands of the BN-UMNO&#039;s political trap without having the right wisdom!!! There&#039;s song which says some of them want to use you and some of them want to be used by you!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some leaders of PAS are happily played into the hands of the BN-UMNO&#8217;s political trap without having the right wisdom!!! There&#8217;s song which says some of them want to use you and some of them want to be used by you!!!</p>
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		<title>By: limkamput</title>
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		<dc:creator>limkamput</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 04:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only scumbag from MCA who keeps hammering DSAI is Liow Tiong Lai. Given that Health Minister post is a curse, i think his days are numbered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only scumbag from MCA who keeps hammering DSAI is Liow Tiong Lai. Given that Health Minister post is a curse, i think his days are numbered.</p>
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