Would you mind elaborating on who are those`certain factions or certain groups that might be engineering the down fall of Anwar?

I cant see here any one who could be benefitting by bringing down Anwar than those racist UMNO scums?May be you have some pointers for me here.Wether PAKATAN has a weak majority or not,the point here is that BN must be taught a lesson.50 years of hegemony is enough.I assume you are a malay,maybe thats why you are afraid of facing a new govt and therefore a new challenge,I being a non-malay have nothing to lose as we non-malays have gained nothing through the racist BN govt initiatives,today a western country is infact gaining from me and my wife,but my heart and soul is still there in the country of my birth,I am trying my best to tell my fellow non-malay Malaysians to be patient and try out a new govt,infact it took me and my wife nearly 10 yrs to decide to leave the country for the sake of our children’s future,only when i got totally exhausted did we leave ,that too after losing our Australian PR 10 yrs ago, because I at that time still had some hope that this racist UMNO scums will one day change their attitude towards the non-bumis but sadly after 10 years I saw it became worse with further marginalization of the minorites in every aspect ,when I applied again in 2005,we were welcomed with open arms, because what the racist govt refused to recognize in us the white man did.

I have all the reasons to think that this is a BN conspiracy.The reasons are;1)why are the police refusing to divulge the police report made by Saiful? 2)Why do the police have to use such long arm tactics by sending balaclave clad commandos to arrest Anwar 1 hr before the deadline for Anwar to be at the police station to give his statement? 3) Why the Dr from PUSRAWI med centre has to go on long leave,for stating that there was no signs of sodomy on Saiful? 4)Why aren’t the police investigating allegations against Najib and his wife as claimed by RPK? 5)Why didn’t the police reprimand Mahathir for sabotaging the present on going sodomy investigation against Anwar by hinting that some habits are hard to break,as you know Mahathir still commands significant support amongst the people?6)Why did PI Bala changed his SD within 24 hours and then dissapeared into wilderness with his family?Do you have any inkling on these?Dont say things for the sake of arguement.Make sure you have got some substance before you comment my respected young brother.

I wish time and duty had been more liberal to me,as I would love to continue this debate with you,unfortunately i may not be,therefore I rest my case with the fervent hope that Malaysia will be able to overcome this ferocious storm and all Malaysians can leave in peace and harmony always.God bless her.

What proof do you have that the sodomy allegation is brought about by the UMNO chain of command? I agree that there could be a conspiracy, but it could have been certain factions or even certain groups in our country that have engineered it. I don’t know and at least I don’t pretend to know the facts unlike many here.

Now tell me, if PR gets 30 defectors to jump ship to BN, would the PR led government be more stable then the current BN government? The PR government would only have 1-2 majority over BN. This is an extremely unstable government and only an irresponsible person would think that such a government would last 5 years. My dear doctor, this is elementary so hear me out: go for long term sustainability and not short term gains. If PR do well, GE13 will be the platform to build the federal government.

We all know that BN have resorted to defections before and that is not something new. And it is expected that they will try now especially when PR is working to do the same. I am not a BN fan, but I can see some right decisions been made by BN and an effort made to move to the right direction. My beef with PR is that PR is supposed to bring in a new wind of change to Malaysia. They are supposed to hold the higher moral ground and not stoop to low unethical practices. What makes BN and PR different if PR resorts to such low practices now? They might make one unethical move now and you will forgive them, but what makes you think this will not be the last??

While we are on the songkok topic, I don’t think that it is imposed in public isn’t it? Yes in some ceremonies it is a dress code (like when meeting the Sultan), but is it different then when you are invited to a formal dinner where there is a formal attire dress code? To me, those who refuse to wear the songkok for formal ceremonies are hypocrites. They talk about Bangsa Malaysia but when the time comes for them to show tolerance and respect to a Sultan (not even a BN politician mind you!), they fail. Sounds like hypocrites doesn’t it?

I for one dont agree with defections too,but what other options are there to topple UMNO led BN govt which has stooped so low by re-enacting the same old sickening script of sodomy against Anwar?Don’t you feel this is very unfair to his wife and children?

BN is trying to lure PAS to realize their ulterior motives,is this not defection?The rakyat have sent a crystal clear message through the ballot boxes in the 12th GE by denying the 2/3rd majority and the loss of 5 states.So why BN is trying to gain power through the back door?What future are you talking about some more?BN has decimated everything,the future can only come now with a change.
If you are afraid to try out new things in life as a man then you will forever be living in a cave with a siege mentality as a fearful and coward person.

You want to wait for the next GE to bring about a change?Cant you see how the UMNO scums are so desperate now to regain power by stooping so low,how sure are you that they wont mobilize all the govt machineries to gain power by using dubious means in the next GE,with all the ample time they have.Till about 2 months ago I too was unhappy with all these defections talk,but now I find it imperative to go for a change of govt in Malaysia asap as we have become a laughing stock in the eyes of the world.

You are missing my points and your thinking is still 50 years before independence. As I had said, we are a global city now and no country or people are insulated from the onslaught of globalisation, unless you prefer to living in your own cave!!!
Bangsa Malaysia may not be just talking about attire etc, it must be about things that we can all relate to!!! if you ask me to wear songkok for ceremony sake, it is perfectly ok to do so, but dont impose this requirement on those who feel that songkok has lost its purpose when the weather is so hot nowadays and yet you still insist that people need to wear them every day to school and must be worn at all time!!! This is not acceptable and not moving in progress with the world!!!