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		<title>By: anna brella</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/07/17/police-black-eyes/comment-page-4/#comment-118599</link>
		<dc:creator>anna brella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two black eyes, huh?  

Perhaps the police are now trying to follow that legal tenet that says justice must be blind to be impartial.

However….125 RPC recommendations!!……wow!..long way to go...

&quot;Imagine Power To The People&quot; John Lennon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two black eyes, huh?  </p>
<p>Perhaps the police are now trying to follow that legal tenet that says justice must be blind to be impartial.</p>
<p>However….125 RPC recommendations!!……wow!..long way to go&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Imagine Power To The People&#8221; John Lennon</p>
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		<title>By: taiking</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/07/17/police-black-eyes/comment-page-4/#comment-118585</link>
		<dc:creator>taiking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 01:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not familiar with criminal law. But dont the special branch keep anwar&#039;s dna profile in its record? like finger prints.

If they do, cant they use it? I.e. to compare it against the dna extracted from the complainant?

That should be enough. In court, it would be a matter of establishing the special branch&#039;s record of his dna profile for admissibility purposes. Wouldnt it?

If that is so, why is there a need to get fresh body tissue samples?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not familiar with criminal law. But dont the special branch keep anwar&#8217;s dna profile in its record? like finger prints.</p>
<p>If they do, cant they use it? I.e. to compare it against the dna extracted from the complainant?</p>
<p>That should be enough. In court, it would be a matter of establishing the special branch&#8217;s record of his dna profile for admissibility purposes. Wouldnt it?</p>
<p>If that is so, why is there a need to get fresh body tissue samples?</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/07/17/police-black-eyes/comment-page-4/#comment-118555</link>
		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;WHY DO THE POLICE NEED A FRESH DNA FROM AN INNOCENT MAN ???&quot;

To find out where his dong has been???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;WHY DO THE POLICE NEED A FRESH DNA FROM AN INNOCENT MAN ???&#8221;</p>
<p>To find out where his dong has been???</p>
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		<title>By: acalcio</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/07/17/police-black-eyes/comment-page-4/#comment-118494</link>
		<dc:creator>acalcio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LKS said so - what a waste of productivity - is there any way we can take legal action against the government for lost productivity and opportunities?

The fuel debate and this police traffic mismanagement demonstrates the government&#039;s gross iniquity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LKS said so &#8211; what a waste of productivity &#8211; is there any way we can take legal action against the government for lost productivity and opportunities?</p>
<p>The fuel debate and this police traffic mismanagement demonstrates the government&#8217;s gross iniquity.</p>
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		<title>By: hanuman</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/07/17/police-black-eyes/comment-page-4/#comment-118308</link>
		<dc:creator>hanuman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am just a layman. 

01. My understanding of the law is one is innocent until proven
      guilty.
02. Police must produce the warrant of arrest before arresting.
03. There must be a police report before a warrant of arrest is
      issued.
04. A warrant of arrest is issued by a magistrate or court.

My logical conclusion
01. Warrant of arrest was not shown to Anwar during his 
      arrest.
02. If there is no warrant of arrest, then Anwar was kidnapped.
03. The police cannot produce the police report against Anwar   
      til todate.
04. Hence there is no warrant of arrest.
05. ANWAR IS INNOCENT SINCE THERE IS NO POLICE REPORT.

WHY DO THE POLICE NEED A FRESH DNA FROM AN INNOCENT MAN ??? 
YOU ARE INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY !!!
IN THIS CASE YOU ARE GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT !!!

WITH DOUBT THERE IS A POLITICAL CONSPIRACY AGAINST ANWAR FROM UMNO.

GOD SAVE MALAYSIANS !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am just a layman. </p>
<p>01. My understanding of the law is one is innocent until proven<br />
      guilty.<br />
02. Police must produce the warrant of arrest before arresting.<br />
03. There must be a police report before a warrant of arrest is<br />
      issued.<br />
04. A warrant of arrest is issued by a magistrate or court.</p>
<p>My logical conclusion<br />
01. Warrant of arrest was not shown to Anwar during his<br />
      arrest.<br />
02. If there is no warrant of arrest, then Anwar was kidnapped.<br />
03. The police cannot produce the police report against Anwar<br />
      til todate.<br />
04. Hence there is no warrant of arrest.<br />
05. ANWAR IS INNOCENT SINCE THERE IS NO POLICE REPORT.</p>
<p>WHY DO THE POLICE NEED A FRESH DNA FROM AN INNOCENT MAN ???<br />
YOU ARE INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY !!!<br />
IN THIS CASE YOU ARE GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT !!!</p>
<p>WITH DOUBT THERE IS A POLITICAL CONSPIRACY AGAINST ANWAR FROM UMNO.</p>
<p>GOD SAVE MALAYSIANS !!!</p>
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		<title>By: despin</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/07/17/police-black-eyes/comment-page-4/#comment-118303</link>
		<dc:creator>despin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a conspiracy after all. Here are some reasons why:
1.When Badawi said that it is not a conspiracy, then there is a very high probability the opposite is true. Over the last five years, he has a tendency to say one thing but meant another;
2.Arch-enemies Khairy and Mukhriz seeing eye-to-eye on the same subject;
3.Father of all hypocrites, Mahathir, wading in because he and his former cronies have most to fear (and lose) if Anwar came to power.
4.Wong Chun Wai’s theStar front-paging the keyword DNA for two consecutive days.
Assuming Anwar were to give fresh DNA samples, are we going to witness a stained blue shirt or underwear, ala Monica Lewinski’s blue dress, being presented as evidence in court? It is certainly easier to bring a piece of clothing in and out of court instead of a giant mattress don’t you think?

Mr. Prime Minister, while I would like to believe you that it is not a conspiracy, another 10 million Malaysians would not. Stop this nonsense and concentrate on the economy lah!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a conspiracy after all. Here are some reasons why:<br />
1.When Badawi said that it is not a conspiracy, then there is a very high probability the opposite is true. Over the last five years, he has a tendency to say one thing but meant another;<br />
2.Arch-enemies Khairy and Mukhriz seeing eye-to-eye on the same subject;<br />
3.Father of all hypocrites, Mahathir, wading in because he and his former cronies have most to fear (and lose) if Anwar came to power.<br />
4.Wong Chun Wai’s theStar front-paging the keyword DNA for two consecutive days.<br />
Assuming Anwar were to give fresh DNA samples, are we going to witness a stained blue shirt or underwear, ala Monica Lewinski’s blue dress, being presented as evidence in court? It is certainly easier to bring a piece of clothing in and out of court instead of a giant mattress don’t you think?</p>
<p>Mr. Prime Minister, while I would like to believe you that it is not a conspiracy, another 10 million Malaysians would not. Stop this nonsense and concentrate on the economy lah!</p>
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		<title>By: Loh</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/07/17/police-black-eyes/comment-page-4/#comment-118300</link>
		<dc:creator>Loh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A person accused of manslaughter was acquitted when the witness was able to confirm seeing the accused pointing a pistol at the deceased but could not confirm that he saw the accused pulling the trigger. The bullet could have gone out of the pistol automatically, and so there was benefit of doubts to be accorded to the accused.

Now even if, for the sake of argument, DSAI&#039;s sperms were found on Saiful&#039;s body, has there been evidence that the sperms got into Saiful&#039;s body through sodomy?

The police is said to have DNA evidence from DSAI, and it requires DSAI to provide his DNA to prove &#039;mismatch&#039;; a match would confirm DSAI guilty as charged. The ministers including the PM are claiming that a mismatch is guaranteed if DSAI is innocence. Is it?

DNA sample could be obtained anywhere from body besides blood sample. It could be the hair, the sweat, or the saliva. Such DNA samples could be obtained easily by any person who was able to come physically close to the accused. In fact it would be possible to obtain a condom-full of sperms, if there was a scheme to get it, without sodomy. The police should prove that the act against the law had been performed.

The pattern of DNA does not change, and the police would have DNA data of DSAI on its files. The police should have evidence to charge DSAI for sodomy based on the standards before the advent of DNA. DNA alone cannot prove sodomy when sodomy was not the only means when DNA sample could be found on Saiful.

PM AAB said that the DNA sample of DSAI was too old to be useful. Is he suggesting that the police has been keeping DNA samples of DSAI all these years? It would be a waste of resources if police actually keeps DNA samples of accused persons, rather than the data on DNA patterns.  If it is not the case, why does the police have a special interest in keeping DNA samples of DSAI, and now finding that the sample has deteriorated over time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A person accused of manslaughter was acquitted when the witness was able to confirm seeing the accused pointing a pistol at the deceased but could not confirm that he saw the accused pulling the trigger. The bullet could have gone out of the pistol automatically, and so there was benefit of doubts to be accorded to the accused.</p>
<p>Now even if, for the sake of argument, DSAI&#8217;s sperms were found on Saiful&#8217;s body, has there been evidence that the sperms got into Saiful&#8217;s body through sodomy?</p>
<p>The police is said to have DNA evidence from DSAI, and it requires DSAI to provide his DNA to prove &#8216;mismatch&#8217;; a match would confirm DSAI guilty as charged. The ministers including the PM are claiming that a mismatch is guaranteed if DSAI is innocence. Is it?</p>
<p>DNA sample could be obtained anywhere from body besides blood sample. It could be the hair, the sweat, or the saliva. Such DNA samples could be obtained easily by any person who was able to come physically close to the accused. In fact it would be possible to obtain a condom-full of sperms, if there was a scheme to get it, without sodomy. The police should prove that the act against the law had been performed.</p>
<p>The pattern of DNA does not change, and the police would have DNA data of DSAI on its files. The police should have evidence to charge DSAI for sodomy based on the standards before the advent of DNA. DNA alone cannot prove sodomy when sodomy was not the only means when DNA sample could be found on Saiful.</p>
<p>PM AAB said that the DNA sample of DSAI was too old to be useful. Is he suggesting that the police has been keeping DNA samples of DSAI all these years? It would be a waste of resources if police actually keeps DNA samples of accused persons, rather than the data on DNA patterns.  If it is not the case, why does the police have a special interest in keeping DNA samples of DSAI, and now finding that the sample has deteriorated over time.</p>
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		<title>By: Godfather</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/07/17/police-black-eyes/comment-page-4/#comment-118283</link>
		<dc:creator>Godfather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 05:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why the obsession with getting a new DNA sample ?  possible reasons:

1. Police lost the old samples which can&#039;t be surprising given the efficiency of the force.

2.  Samples deteriorated to the point of them being unusable.  Unusable as in being useless for planting evidence.

I think it is more likely the Police lost the samples of old, and can&#039;t make a positive ID of whatever that was left behind in the &quot;victim&quot;.  It would be too embarrassing of the Police and the AG&#039;s chambers to admit to losing the original samples.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why the obsession with getting a new DNA sample ?  possible reasons:</p>
<p>1. Police lost the old samples which can&#8217;t be surprising given the efficiency of the force.</p>
<p>2.  Samples deteriorated to the point of them being unusable.  Unusable as in being useless for planting evidence.</p>
<p>I think it is more likely the Police lost the samples of old, and can&#8217;t make a positive ID of whatever that was left behind in the &#8220;victim&#8221;.  It would be too embarrassing of the Police and the AG&#8217;s chambers to admit to losing the original samples.</p>
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		<title>By: lopez</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/07/17/police-black-eyes/comment-page-4/#comment-118243</link>
		<dc:creator>lopez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When a feudalistic gomen exist among other advance cultures of other nations, they have nothing else to brag about. 
Theirs is just a bunch of tribal people in the world&#039;s forests occasionally discovered.
Predictably ethnic tribal feelings are still strong in hum no loonies.
 but like everything else natural, some learnt to adapt some dont 
some like to proud themselves that they have discover how to make fire
but others already learn how to use fire.

what are u?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When a feudalistic gomen exist among other advance cultures of other nations, they have nothing else to brag about.<br />
Theirs is just a bunch of tribal people in the world&#8217;s forests occasionally discovered.<br />
Predictably ethnic tribal feelings are still strong in hum no loonies.<br />
 but like everything else natural, some learnt to adapt some dont<br />
some like to proud themselves that they have discover how to make fire<br />
but others already learn how to use fire.</p>
<p>what are u?</p>
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		<title>By: Rocky</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/07/17/police-black-eyes/comment-page-4/#comment-118229</link>
		<dc:creator>Rocky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if you have not seen this, please do and watch all 6 episodes

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zqlAzlNY-lA&amp;feature=related

Pak Lah the good muslim is twisting the issue...DNA doesn&#039;t change so why need a new one?Lying?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if you have not seen this, please do and watch all 6 episodes</p>
<p><a href="http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zqlAzlNY-lA&#038;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zqlAzlNY-lA&#038;feature=related</a></p>
<p>Pak Lah the good muslim is twisting the issue&#8230;DNA doesn&#8217;t change so why need a new one?Lying?</p>
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		<title>By: negarawan</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/07/17/police-black-eyes/comment-page-4/#comment-118195</link>
		<dc:creator>negarawan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s face it. Anwar will loose this battle. AAB says the existing DNA sample too old. That&#039;s BS. Even dinosaur DNA can be identified. They have already used the old DNA to plant false evidence. All this hoohaa about collecting new DNA sample is just for show. If they can withdraw C4 for wrongful use, erase immigration records at will, etc, etc, there should be no problem in withdrawing the old DNA sample and framing Anwar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s face it. Anwar will loose this battle. AAB says the existing DNA sample too old. That&#8217;s BS. Even dinosaur DNA can be identified. They have already used the old DNA to plant false evidence. All this hoohaa about collecting new DNA sample is just for show. If they can withdraw C4 for wrongful use, erase immigration records at will, etc, etc, there should be no problem in withdrawing the old DNA sample and framing Anwar.</p>
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		<title>By: lopez</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/07/17/police-black-eyes/comment-page-4/#comment-118187</link>
		<dc:creator>lopez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sad Habit cannot take wah koh alone , no balls lah left them at bawawi or anjis table, so get the men in blue to rape him up.

but he is an old man already why need to many kaki tangan

talk so much and have no ideas as we saw his natural performance over the air and funny thing no more al jeeera around...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sad Habit cannot take wah koh alone , no balls lah left them at bawawi or anjis table, so get the men in blue to rape him up.</p>
<p>but he is an old man already why need to many kaki tangan</p>
<p>talk so much and have no ideas as we saw his natural performance over the air and funny thing no more al jeeera around&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: limkamput</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/07/17/police-black-eyes/comment-page-4/#comment-118184</link>
		<dc:creator>limkamput</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i love dr M…..this old man has seen it all….his views cant be too far off the truth. lextcs

Please stop talking cock. This old fart also said Anwar&#039;s black eye was self-inflicted. This old fart was and is not as great as moron like you worship.  He destroyed valuable institutions in this country that money can not buy. Of course i can expect a simpleton like you to understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i love dr M…..this old man has seen it all….his views cant be too far off the truth. lextcs</p>
<p>Please stop talking cock. This old fart also said Anwar&#8217;s black eye was self-inflicted. This old fart was and is not as great as moron like you worship.  He destroyed valuable institutions in this country that money can not buy. Of course i can expect a simpleton like you to understand.</p>
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		<title>By: Anba</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/07/17/police-black-eyes/comment-page-4/#comment-118174</link>
		<dc:creator>Anba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just curious why my comments was not posted. 


Anba Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. 

Today at 11: 46.37 (8 hours ago) 
Uncle Lim and Malaysians,
We have been black eyed since the birth of Dasar Ekonomi Baru or NEP in 1970.
We have been black eyed when the sons of Indians and Chinese were forced out from schooling further or not given an equal chance for further education due to the quota system imposed in 1970.
We have been black eyed when we lost our voice by not able to truly voice out in the local newspapers.
The Anwar’s black eyes that happened 10 years ago is nothing but the manisfestation of the same Malay group that Black eyed other races and ethic groups for a long time. Thanks to the “Bapa Ketuanan Melayu”, our former PM, Dr. Mahathir, who masterminded the whole issue of the Malay supremacy since his book “Dilemma Melayu” which was published in 1970 ( ironically this was the year the New Ecoomy Policy or the NEP was begun), 11 years before he became the prime minister.

My question is whether all the black eyed isues mentioned above be forgotten like Malaysians always do.

May truth and justice set us free.
God bless.
Anba</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just curious why my comments was not posted. </p>
<p>Anba Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. </p>
<p>Today at 11: 46.37 (8 hours ago)<br />
Uncle Lim and Malaysians,<br />
We have been black eyed since the birth of Dasar Ekonomi Baru or NEP in 1970.<br />
We have been black eyed when the sons of Indians and Chinese were forced out from schooling further or not given an equal chance for further education due to the quota system imposed in 1970.<br />
We have been black eyed when we lost our voice by not able to truly voice out in the local newspapers.<br />
The Anwar’s black eyes that happened 10 years ago is nothing but the manisfestation of the same Malay group that Black eyed other races and ethic groups for a long time. Thanks to the “Bapa Ketuanan Melayu”, our former PM, Dr. Mahathir, who masterminded the whole issue of the Malay supremacy since his book “Dilemma Melayu” which was published in 1970 ( ironically this was the year the New Ecoomy Policy or the NEP was begun), 11 years before he became the prime minister.</p>
<p>My question is whether all the black eyed isues mentioned above be forgotten like Malaysians always do.</p>
<p>May truth and justice set us free.<br />
God bless.<br />
Anba</p>
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		<title>By: nyghtsky</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/07/17/police-black-eyes/comment-page-4/#comment-118169</link>
		<dc:creator>nyghtsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can blame them so much, they don&#039;t understand English hence doesn&#039;t watch CSI! Their ignorance is unbelievable and the fact that they think the Rakyat can be so easily accept their incompetence is what makes our blood boil!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can blame them so much, they don&#8217;t understand English hence doesn&#8217;t watch CSI! Their ignorance is unbelievable and the fact that they think the Rakyat can be so easily accept their incompetence is what makes our blood boil!</p>
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		<title>By: negarawan</title>
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		<dc:creator>negarawan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Malaysian police and judiciary are mere puppets of UMNO. In fact the whole investigation should be done by a competent and impartial foreign team like Scotland Yard. The Malaysian police investigative ability and skills, as we all know, is zero and cannot be trusted at all. The same thing goes for the Malaysian judiciary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Malaysian police and judiciary are mere puppets of UMNO. In fact the whole investigation should be done by a competent and impartial foreign team like Scotland Yard. The Malaysian police investigative ability and skills, as we all know, is zero and cannot be trusted at all. The same thing goes for the Malaysian judiciary.</p>
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		<title>By: lextcs</title>
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		<dc:creator>lextcs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Godfather...welcome to the real world.....there is non righteous and all have sinned...including me....and of course you....everyone will change their mind every now and then...just wait till the whole episode ends and then only then you will realised that what we have here are a bunch of greedy pigs politicians, only wanting to satisfy their lustful desires.....the higher the politicians climbs the LIAR they get....doesnt matter which side they belong to.....it is obvious that those who sits on the fence see the clearest! It is good to be clouded by our own ambitions but it is foolish to make happen ambitions of others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Godfather&#8230;welcome to the real world&#8230;..there is non righteous and all have sinned&#8230;including me&#8230;.and of course you&#8230;.everyone will change their mind every now and then&#8230;just wait till the whole episode ends and then only then you will realised that what we have here are a bunch of greedy pigs politicians, only wanting to satisfy their lustful desires&#8230;..the higher the politicians climbs the LIAR they get&#8230;.doesnt matter which side they belong to&#8230;..it is obvious that those who sits on the fence see the clearest! It is good to be clouded by our own ambitions but it is foolish to make happen ambitions of others.</p>
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		<title>By: nyghtsky</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/07/17/police-black-eyes/comment-page-4/#comment-118154</link>
		<dc:creator>nyghtsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PDRM&#039;s response to Reporters as to why they need DSAI to give his DNA again was mere,&quot; dont&#039; talk about past cases &quot;. The CID chief needs public speaking skills. OMG, can&#039;t even read a prepared script correctly. 

They have nothing... which is exactly why DSAI should not give any fresh DNA samples... 

One after another boo-boo; they don&#039;t need anyone to bad mouth them cause they do an excellent job of it themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PDRM&#8217;s response to Reporters as to why they need DSAI to give his DNA again was mere,&#8221; dont&#8217; talk about past cases &#8220;. The CID chief needs public speaking skills. OMG, can&#8217;t even read a prepared script correctly. </p>
<p>They have nothing&#8230; which is exactly why DSAI should not give any fresh DNA samples&#8230; </p>
<p>One after another boo-boo; they don&#8217;t need anyone to bad mouth them cause they do an excellent job of it themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: wtf2</title>
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		<dc:creator>wtf2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>let&#039;s figure: if anwar&#039;s found innocent, the poof-tif will be guilty of ( on the civil court front )

1. Criminal defamation
2. Sexual acts contradictory to nature
3. subversion of justice
4. Waste of public resources

not to mention the syariah court front.  So if Anwar is let off the hook, this poof will : 

1. be Jailed a very long time
2. be ostrasized by society
3. get very rich because some rich sugardaddy skimming the nation&#039;s coffers will cover his retirement to prevent finger pointing OR
4. get C4ed by the sugardaddy.

So what will be the bets?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>let&#8217;s figure: if anwar&#8217;s found innocent, the poof-tif will be guilty of ( on the civil court front )</p>
<p>1. Criminal defamation<br />
2. Sexual acts contradictory to nature<br />
3. subversion of justice<br />
4. Waste of public resources</p>
<p>not to mention the syariah court front.  So if Anwar is let off the hook, this poof will : </p>
<p>1. be Jailed a very long time<br />
2. be ostrasized by society<br />
3. get very rich because some rich sugardaddy skimming the nation&#8217;s coffers will cover his retirement to prevent finger pointing OR<br />
4. get C4ed by the sugardaddy.</p>
<p>So what will be the bets?</p>
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		<title>By: TheWrathOfGrapes</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheWrathOfGrapes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anwar Ibrahim’s press statement

Thursday, 17 July 2008, 10:24 pm &#124; 293 views

From the office of Anwar Ibrahim.

On Saturday, 12-07-2008, the police came to my house to serve a Section 111 Criminal Procedure Code notice, harassing my family and demanding my presence at the IPK Kuala Lumpur (Federal Territories Police headquarters) at 2pm on Monday, 14-07-2008 despite an earlier agreement with my lawyers for me to come to the IPK on Monday 14-07-2008. On the next day, Sunday, the police also served an ex-parte court order, prohibiting me from physically being within 5 km from the Parliament on Monday 14-07-2008. As you can see, my house and the IPK KL are within 5 km radius from the parliament building. The court order effectively put me under house arrest on Monday and at the same time prevented me from going to the IPK.

On Monday, 14-07-2008, the presence of police personnel outside the compound of my house strengthened our suspicions that they would be prepared to arrest me as soon as I left the compound of my residence, on the pretext of me violating the court order. The issue here, is which order should I comply with, the ex-parte court order or the Section 111 notice from the police?On the same day, the police through the Investigating Officer, one DSP Jude Pereira wrote and faxed to my lawyer at about 1.06pm, informing that I was required to be present at the IPK KL on Wednesday, 16-07-2008 at 2.00 pm to assist with the investigation. I conveyed my agreement to the appointment and it was communicated to the police through my solicitor, Messrs S.N Nair and Partners via telephone and letter on the same day.

On Wednesday, 16-07-2008, I was at the Anti Corruption Agency (BPR) head office to record my statement pursuant to the police report lodged by me at IPK Shah Alam on 01-07-2008, against the Attorney General Gani Patail and the Inspector General of Police Musa Hassan for their involvement in the fabrication of evidence way back in 1998. To ensure that we will be able to attend the appointment with the police at 2pm, we cut short our statement at the BPR’s office, and this fact was clearly conveyed to the BPR officers present.

At about 12.45 pm, the IO, DSP Jude Pereira called Mr Nair to confirm about our attendance and Mr. Nair confirmed that we would attend that 2pm appointment. We were about to have a quick lunch at my house before proceeding to the IPK. 5 minutes later, we were ambushed by a team of masked and heavily armed police personnel near my house.

I was arrested and brought to the IPK. I cooperated fully with the police by giving my cautioned statement from 2.30 pm to about 7.30 pm. At this particular point, the IO and the other officers handling this case were doing their job professionally. I was then given assurances by Assistant Commissioner of Police Razali and later Senior Assistant Commissioner II Khor (through my lawyer) that I would be released on police bail on the same day.

However, later on, upon my return from Kuala Lumpur General Hospotal (HKL), the IO, DSP Jude Pereira informed me and my lawyers that I will be detained and put in the police lock-up overnight for the purpose of recording a further statement in the morning.

I and my lawyers protested, giving our undertaking that we will be back anytime required by the police to continue with the recording of the statement, and there was no need for me to be detained overnight, and that I should be released on police bail. The police, through the IO were adamant that I should be detained and put in the police lock-up overnight, despite them knowing about my physical condition. I had to spend the night sleeping on a cold cement floor, which aggravated my back injury which was due to the beating I received from the then IGP, Tan Sri Rahim Nor on 20th September, 1998.

This morning, after a short statement that was recorded for about 30 minutes, I was released on police bail. I was in pain and had to immediately receive some medical treatment upon my return home.

I now wish to deal with the statement of the Criminal Investigation Department (CID) Director, Dato Mohd Bakri Mohd Zinin as appeared in Utusan Malaysia today, inter alia

“Pasukan khas bertopeng polis terpaksa memintas kenderaan DSAI di Bukit Segambut di sini dan menahan Anwar ekoran tindakan Penasihat PKR itu mengubah haluan kenderaannya pada saat-saat tempoh yang diberi kepadanya untuk menyerah diri kepada polis pada pukul 2 petang ini hampir berakhir”

This is a blatant lie from the CID director to cover up their shameful act of abuse of police powers. I have given the assurances and had just informed the IO 5 minutes before the disgraceful ambush by the police through my lawyer who was with me in the same car.

In addition to the above, the Deputy Home Minister, Wan Farid said, as reported in Star Online that, I “went voluntarily to the police car without any incident.” Again, this is also a blatant lie by the government.

I take to task the IGP for this abuse of police power against me through the events I’ve narrated above. It appears that the events of the last few days, the nature of my unwarranted arrest, my overnight incarceration which was actually absolutely unnecessary, were an act of personal vengeance against me in retaliation to the reports I lodged earlier against him, which are now being investigated by the ACA.

DNA

I have reasonable grounds for having no confidence in the system.  In the course of the trial of the false allegations of sodomy in 1998, DNA evidence was fabricated and used against me. The persons responsible for the fabrication then were the IGP, SAC Rodwan and the AG, are new key players in this investigation.

Until now, I have been denied access to the police report made by the accuser against me.

My accuser is still under police protection and as such, any fabrication is possible if they take my DNA.  My decision to refuse a DNA test is taken through advice of my lawyers and DNA experts, both local and overseas.

ANWAR IBRAHIM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anwar Ibrahim’s press statement</p>
<p>Thursday, 17 July 2008, 10:24 pm | 293 views</p>
<p>From the office of Anwar Ibrahim.</p>
<p>On Saturday, 12-07-2008, the police came to my house to serve a Section 111 Criminal Procedure Code notice, harassing my family and demanding my presence at the IPK Kuala Lumpur (Federal Territories Police headquarters) at 2pm on Monday, 14-07-2008 despite an earlier agreement with my lawyers for me to come to the IPK on Monday 14-07-2008. On the next day, Sunday, the police also served an ex-parte court order, prohibiting me from physically being within 5 km from the Parliament on Monday 14-07-2008. As you can see, my house and the IPK KL are within 5 km radius from the parliament building. The court order effectively put me under house arrest on Monday and at the same time prevented me from going to the IPK.</p>
<p>On Monday, 14-07-2008, the presence of police personnel outside the compound of my house strengthened our suspicions that they would be prepared to arrest me as soon as I left the compound of my residence, on the pretext of me violating the court order. The issue here, is which order should I comply with, the ex-parte court order or the Section 111 notice from the police?On the same day, the police through the Investigating Officer, one DSP Jude Pereira wrote and faxed to my lawyer at about 1.06pm, informing that I was required to be present at the IPK KL on Wednesday, 16-07-2008 at 2.00 pm to assist with the investigation. I conveyed my agreement to the appointment and it was communicated to the police through my solicitor, Messrs S.N Nair and Partners via telephone and letter on the same day.</p>
<p>On Wednesday, 16-07-2008, I was at the Anti Corruption Agency (BPR) head office to record my statement pursuant to the police report lodged by me at IPK Shah Alam on 01-07-2008, against the Attorney General Gani Patail and the Inspector General of Police Musa Hassan for their involvement in the fabrication of evidence way back in 1998. To ensure that we will be able to attend the appointment with the police at 2pm, we cut short our statement at the BPR’s office, and this fact was clearly conveyed to the BPR officers present.</p>
<p>At about 12.45 pm, the IO, DSP Jude Pereira called Mr Nair to confirm about our attendance and Mr. Nair confirmed that we would attend that 2pm appointment. We were about to have a quick lunch at my house before proceeding to the IPK. 5 minutes later, we were ambushed by a team of masked and heavily armed police personnel near my house.</p>
<p>I was arrested and brought to the IPK. I cooperated fully with the police by giving my cautioned statement from 2.30 pm to about 7.30 pm. At this particular point, the IO and the other officers handling this case were doing their job professionally. I was then given assurances by Assistant Commissioner of Police Razali and later Senior Assistant Commissioner II Khor (through my lawyer) that I would be released on police bail on the same day.</p>
<p>However, later on, upon my return from Kuala Lumpur General Hospotal (HKL), the IO, DSP Jude Pereira informed me and my lawyers that I will be detained and put in the police lock-up overnight for the purpose of recording a further statement in the morning.</p>
<p>I and my lawyers protested, giving our undertaking that we will be back anytime required by the police to continue with the recording of the statement, and there was no need for me to be detained overnight, and that I should be released on police bail. The police, through the IO were adamant that I should be detained and put in the police lock-up overnight, despite them knowing about my physical condition. I had to spend the night sleeping on a cold cement floor, which aggravated my back injury which was due to the beating I received from the then IGP, Tan Sri Rahim Nor on 20th September, 1998.</p>
<p>This morning, after a short statement that was recorded for about 30 minutes, I was released on police bail. I was in pain and had to immediately receive some medical treatment upon my return home.</p>
<p>I now wish to deal with the statement of the Criminal Investigation Department (CID) Director, Dato Mohd Bakri Mohd Zinin as appeared in Utusan Malaysia today, inter alia</p>
<p>“Pasukan khas bertopeng polis terpaksa memintas kenderaan DSAI di Bukit Segambut di sini dan menahan Anwar ekoran tindakan Penasihat PKR itu mengubah haluan kenderaannya pada saat-saat tempoh yang diberi kepadanya untuk menyerah diri kepada polis pada pukul 2 petang ini hampir berakhir”</p>
<p>This is a blatant lie from the CID director to cover up their shameful act of abuse of police powers. I have given the assurances and had just informed the IO 5 minutes before the disgraceful ambush by the police through my lawyer who was with me in the same car.</p>
<p>In addition to the above, the Deputy Home Minister, Wan Farid said, as reported in Star Online that, I “went voluntarily to the police car without any incident.” Again, this is also a blatant lie by the government.</p>
<p>I take to task the IGP for this abuse of police power against me through the events I’ve narrated above. It appears that the events of the last few days, the nature of my unwarranted arrest, my overnight incarceration which was actually absolutely unnecessary, were an act of personal vengeance against me in retaliation to the reports I lodged earlier against him, which are now being investigated by the ACA.</p>
<p>DNA</p>
<p>I have reasonable grounds for having no confidence in the system.  In the course of the trial of the false allegations of sodomy in 1998, DNA evidence was fabricated and used against me. The persons responsible for the fabrication then were the IGP, SAC Rodwan and the AG, are new key players in this investigation.</p>
<p>Until now, I have been denied access to the police report made by the accuser against me.</p>
<p>My accuser is still under police protection and as such, any fabrication is possible if they take my DNA.  My decision to refuse a DNA test is taken through advice of my lawyers and DNA experts, both local and overseas.</p>
<p>ANWAR IBRAHIM</p>
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