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	<title>Comments on: Balasubramaniam&#8217;s 2 contradictory SDs &#8211; the immediate concern</title>
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		<title>By: 7even Sins</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/07/06/balasubramaniams-2-contradictory-sds-the-immediate-concern/comment-page-3/#comment-117362</link>
		<dc:creator>7even Sins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 06:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When SD&#039;s about the murder of Mongolian beauty involving Najis &amp; Roastedmah the police seems not so interested or perhaps &quot;Kecut&quot; to investigate. When someone&#039;s ass is put in the spot light, UMNO &amp; police went yahoooo, franzied, excited and maybe mouth-watery...!!! ...Police only bullies those powerless Rakyat which by right they should protect...!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When SD&#8217;s about the murder of Mongolian beauty involving Najis &amp; Roastedmah the police seems not so interested or perhaps &#8220;Kecut&#8221; to investigate. When someone&#8217;s ass is put in the spot light, UMNO &amp; police went yahoooo, franzied, excited and maybe mouth-watery&#8230;!!! &#8230;Police only bullies those powerless Rakyat which by right they should protect&#8230;!</p>
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		<title>By: good coolie</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/07/06/balasubramaniams-2-contradictory-sds-the-immediate-concern/comment-page-3/#comment-116638</link>
		<dc:creator>good coolie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 10:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There must have been a matter of national security involved in the murder of Altantuya. No wonder there is so much high profile pulling of wool over everyone&#039;s eyes, the latest being Balasubramaniam&#039;s &quot;volte face&quot;.

Is C-4 related to mee sodom and the positive and negative of a single statutory declaration?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There must have been a matter of national security involved in the murder of Altantuya. No wonder there is so much high profile pulling of wool over everyone&#8217;s eyes, the latest being Balasubramaniam&#8217;s &#8220;volte face&#8221;.</p>
<p>Is C-4 related to mee sodom and the positive and negative of a single statutory declaration?</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/07/06/balasubramaniams-2-contradictory-sds-the-immediate-concern/comment-page-3/#comment-115926</link>
		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What could be better than mine to your nose? LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What could be better than mine to your nose? LOL</p>
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		<title>By: limkamput</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/07/06/balasubramaniams-2-contradictory-sds-the-immediate-concern/comment-page-3/#comment-115825</link>
		<dc:creator>limkamput</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 23:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>undergrad2 says &quot;One buttock talking to another - cheek to cheek!&quot;

you are wrong again. it is my buttock to your cheek. you never learn, best of both worlds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>undergrad2 says &#8220;One buttock talking to another &#8211; cheek to cheek!&#8221;</p>
<p>you are wrong again. it is my buttock to your cheek. you never learn, best of both worlds.</p>
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		<title>By: TTDI_KL</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/07/06/balasubramaniams-2-contradictory-sds-the-immediate-concern/comment-page-3/#comment-115804</link>
		<dc:creator>TTDI_KL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>undergrad2 talking to himself.  getting old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>undergrad2 talking to himself.  getting old.</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/07/06/balasubramaniams-2-contradictory-sds-the-immediate-concern/comment-page-3/#comment-115795</link>
		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was Bala kidnapped by a team of body snatchers or is he the latest victim of illegal aliens in space ships?? Your guess is as good as mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was Bala kidnapped by a team of body snatchers or is he the latest victim of illegal aliens in space ships?? Your guess is as good as mine.</p>
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		<title>By: dapforever</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/07/06/balasubramaniams-2-contradictory-sds-the-immediate-concern/comment-page-3/#comment-115791</link>
		<dc:creator>dapforever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 12:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think Bala is already in oversea...he can easily get thru custom/imigresen department with the help of the BN government...high ranking people able to bring them out from this country...BN got $ to do so....IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think Bala is already in oversea&#8230;he can easily get thru custom/imigresen department with the help of the BN government&#8230;high ranking people able to bring them out from this country&#8230;BN got $ to do so&#8230;.IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: shortie kiasu</title>
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		<dc:creator>shortie kiasu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 06:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This PI by the the name of Balasubramaniam wanted to create a stunt and so that his name can splashed over the news in the press and in the electronic media, so called cheap publicity with no substance, and his lawyers are not advising him intelligently, but instead dancing to his tunes too.

The authority should leave him alone to dance his own monkey dance, and not waste public fund on pursuing him like the children &quot;hide &amp; seek&quot; game.

Just leave him alone to have his monkey acts. Police have more urgent task at hand to ensure public security and order rather that one insane man. 

Heresay carries no weight at all. Police should not be misled into chasing the the unreal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This PI by the the name of Balasubramaniam wanted to create a stunt and so that his name can splashed over the news in the press and in the electronic media, so called cheap publicity with no substance, and his lawyers are not advising him intelligently, but instead dancing to his tunes too.</p>
<p>The authority should leave him alone to dance his own monkey dance, and not waste public fund on pursuing him like the children &#8220;hide &amp; seek&#8221; game.</p>
<p>Just leave him alone to have his monkey acts. Police have more urgent task at hand to ensure public security and order rather that one insane man. </p>
<p>Heresay carries no weight at all. Police should not be misled into chasing the the unreal.</p>
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		<title>By: al-jajawi</title>
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		<dc:creator>al-jajawi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 04:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am getting very fed-up with the latest sodomy accusation against Anwar Ibrahim. I would have thought the BN govt has had a good lesson from the 1998 debacle, but apparently they have not learned anything at all. If you guys in BN are so afraid of losing your grip of the Fed Govt to the Pakatan Rakyat led by Anwar, then do something positive to win back the hearts and minds  of the rakyat--like cleaning up the judiciary right away withou any more dilly dally, forming the ICPM, investigating Najib Razak&#039;s involvement in the altantuya murder, etc. Najib had asked why he should be investigated since he has been denying the accusation all this while. It&#039;s not enough for NAjib to deny the accusation--he must submit himself for investigation if he is so innocent. He should not be afraid if he is not involved--he has nothing to fear---unless of course he is involved in some way. Is he suppressing evidence? If he is thinking of becoming the PM of Malaysia, he must come clean. Malaysians do not want a criminal to lead the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am getting very fed-up with the latest sodomy accusation against Anwar Ibrahim. I would have thought the BN govt has had a good lesson from the 1998 debacle, but apparently they have not learned anything at all. If you guys in BN are so afraid of losing your grip of the Fed Govt to the Pakatan Rakyat led by Anwar, then do something positive to win back the hearts and minds  of the rakyat&#8211;like cleaning up the judiciary right away withou any more dilly dally, forming the ICPM, investigating Najib Razak&#8217;s involvement in the altantuya murder, etc. Najib had asked why he should be investigated since he has been denying the accusation all this while. It&#8217;s not enough for NAjib to deny the accusation&#8211;he must submit himself for investigation if he is so innocent. He should not be afraid if he is not involved&#8211;he has nothing to fear&#8212;unless of course he is involved in some way. Is he suppressing evidence? If he is thinking of becoming the PM of Malaysia, he must come clean. Malaysians do not want a criminal to lead the country.</p>
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		<title>By: yhsiew</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/07/06/balasubramaniams-2-contradictory-sds-the-immediate-concern/comment-page-3/#comment-115746</link>
		<dc:creator>yhsiew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 03:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bala&#039;s nephews claimed SD1 was prepared 6 months ago.

http://www.malaysia-today.net/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=9640&amp;Itemid=1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bala&#8217;s nephews claimed SD1 was prepared 6 months ago.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.malaysia-today.net/index.php?option=com_content&#038;task=view&#038;id=9640&#038;Itemid=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.malaysia-today.net/index.php?option=com_content&#038;task=view&#038;id=9640&#038;Itemid=1</a></p>
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		<title>By: pulau_sibu</title>
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		<dc:creator>pulau_sibu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 01:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daily Press Briefing
Tom Casey, Deputy Spokesman
Washington, DC
June 30, 2008

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/2008/jun/106402.htm

QUESTION: Speaking of Asia. I was hoping you might comment on Mr. Anwar’s arrest in Malaysia that Arshad raised this morning.

MR. CASEY: Sure. I did get a chance to look into this a little bit here. And first of all, my understanding is that no formal charges have been filed, though this is an accusation that the police are looking into. The main point for us is that the rule of law needs to stand above politics. And we would certainly oppose any use of law enforcement or judicial procedures for anything other than legitimate purposes of the law. And as I said, Malaysian police are supposed to be investigating this accusation. I think you can talk to them as to the status of that. I would note, of course, that Mr. Ibrahim previously faced charges and, in fact, was convicted on a similar offense a number of years ago and that that conviction ultimately was overturned. So we would hope that there’s not a pattern here. But certainly we would be concerned that anything that is done, be done in a way that is appropriate, that is a legitimate investigation of charges that might exist under Malaysian law and would not be anything that was a politically motivated investigation or prosecution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daily Press Briefing<br />
Tom Casey, Deputy Spokesman<br />
Washington, DC<br />
June 30, 2008</p>
<p><a href="http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/2008/jun/106402.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/2008/jun/106402.htm</a></p>
<p>QUESTION: Speaking of Asia. I was hoping you might comment on Mr. Anwar’s arrest in Malaysia that Arshad raised this morning.</p>
<p>MR. CASEY: Sure. I did get a chance to look into this a little bit here. And first of all, my understanding is that no formal charges have been filed, though this is an accusation that the police are looking into. The main point for us is that the rule of law needs to stand above politics. And we would certainly oppose any use of law enforcement or judicial procedures for anything other than legitimate purposes of the law. And as I said, Malaysian police are supposed to be investigating this accusation. I think you can talk to them as to the status of that. I would note, of course, that Mr. Ibrahim previously faced charges and, in fact, was convicted on a similar offense a number of years ago and that that conviction ultimately was overturned. So we would hope that there’s not a pattern here. But certainly we would be concerned that anything that is done, be done in a way that is appropriate, that is a legitimate investigation of charges that might exist under Malaysian law and would not be anything that was a politically motivated investigation or prosecution.</p>
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		<title>By: pulau_sibu</title>
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		<dc:creator>pulau_sibu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 01:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I simply post the message here and hope Uncle Lim may put it at the right place.

Why the noise now about US concern with Anwar sodomy accusation? US has made clear its position about Anwar to Syed Hamid in 2002. According to US, anwar was a political prisoner and the trial was flawed!
Please read.

http://www.state.gov/secretary/former/powell/remarks/2002/12275.htm
Press Briefing With Foreign Minister Datuk Seri Syed Hamid Albar of Malaysia
Secretary Colin L. Powell
Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
July 30, 2002

FOREIGN MINISTER HAMID: Thank you very much and I am sorry to keep you waiting. I really appreciate Secretary Powell visiting Malaysia and I think that it has been a very useful visit. We have always looked forward to the visit of the Secretary of State to Malaysia. He has had a good discussion with the Prime Minister, the Deputy Prime Minister, and myself. We covered areas of bilateral interest, regional as well as international interest. All and all, we think that the discussion has been constructive. We were very frank. We were able to exchange views that will deepen and strengthen further bilateral relations. The U.S. is an important partner in the development of ASEAN and Southeast Asia as a whole.

SECRETARY POWELL: Thank you very much, Mr. Minister and I thank you and the Prime Minister and Deputy Prime Minister for the hospitality that you extended to me and my delegation. And I agree with you fully that our conversations were thorough in discussing bilateral issues, regional issues and trade issues and a number of other issues that we have in common.

I have been looking forward to this visit for a long time and am pleased that I was able to stop here on the way to the ASEAN Regional Forum Meeting and I look forward to a subsequent visit here to spend more time and see more of the country. We are sorry that we kept you waiting and in the interest of time we will go right to questions.

FOREIGN MINISTER HAMID: Yes, please.

QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, have you yet made a decision on whether you will meet your North Korean counterpart in Brunei? And Minister Hamid, did the United States ask anything of you specifically or offer you anything specifically to increase your cooperation in the war on terrorism? And did they ask for the extradition of anyone you have in detention?

SECRETARY POWELL: I haven’t made a decision yet with respect to my North Korean colleague. We’ll make a judgment on that after I get to Brunei.

FOREIGN MINISTER HAMID: On the question of terrorism, I think this is one area where we have worked effectively and strongly with the U.S. and we are very happy with that relationship. And now we are looking at the specific areas of working together. I would not discuss what it is as yet, but we are looking forward to having something substantive between the U.S. and Malaysia where we can cover the region and where it will be a forum for discussion and for exchange of views, and I think it is very useful.

With respect to the extradition, we have agreed with the US that whatever – if they need for evidential purposes anyone in Malaysia, whom they need to interview or they need to discuss, they can go through the normal channels that we opened between ourselves and the US for this purpose.

QUESTION: Did your discussion with the Secretary this morning also touch on the Middle East issue? Would you like to share with us?

SECRETARY POWELL: Yes, we did discuss the Middle East in all three meetings, and I described to them President Bush’s vision as contained in his 24 June speech and his commitment to bringing into being a Palestinian state, hopefully within three years, living side by side in peace with Israel.

I described to my colleagues the efforts we have underway with respect to security transformation within the Palestinian community, with respect to our efforts to improve the humanitarian situation within the towns and villages of the occupied territories.

And I wanted to make sure they knew that the United States intended to remain fully engaged until the President’s goals for all the peoples in the region, for these two nations to live side-by-side in peace (inaudible) peace comes to a reality.

FOREIGN MINISTER HAMID: In our case, we always believe that the United States has got the biggest role to play in order to realize the hope of seeing a peaceful Middle East. I think the Middle East conflict was going to be resolved and I think the explanation and the information and the discussion that we had with Secretary Powell was most useful and productive and we are very glad to know that the United States remains fully engaged to see a peaceful resolution in the Middle East.

QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, I was wondering if you had discussed human rights issues and particularly with respect to the treatment of detainees who were being held without trial in Malaysia who are suspected of having ties to terrorist groups? And Mr. Foreign Minister, I wonder if you could comment on whether you see any difference between those detainees and the detainees the United States is holding at Guantanamo Bay?

SECRETARY POWELL: We did discuss human rights in each meeting in the context of our counter terrorism efforts. I made the point to all my interlocutors that we still believe strongly in human rights and that everything we do has to be consistent with universal standards of human rights. We talked about the ISA which the Malaysians have used for purposes I am sure that Minister would be better able to explain. And I also touched on the case of Mr. Anwar Ibrahim in my meeting with the Foreign Minister.

FOREIGN MINISTER HAMID: I think Malaysia places a lot of important to human rights. But I think in so far as exercising the universal standards of human rights at the same time looking at the national interests from the national perspective, we explained that we have never used the ISA for purposes of frustrating our political opponents. But it is used for purposes of ensuring that the peace and the stability of the country is protected. If anybody takes an action which will jeopardize our security, then we have to take action.

I think this type of exchanges and creating understanding is very good for us. With the United States’ position, we have got certain position that we hold. I think that it has been very friendly, we have reassured him that we believe in human rights, we believe in the rule of law, we believe in the independence of the judiciary but there may be differences at the end of it when those things are implemented on the ground. I think overall, we have no problem between ourselves in explaining the whole point of view. I think that’s all. Just one last question, and then we have to go.

QUESTION: Do you consider Anwar Ibrahim a political prisoner?

SECRETARY POWELL: Yes, as you know, we believe the (trial) was flawed. The Appeals Court has acted on the first charge and that is the end of the process as it is envisioned in the Malaysian law. But we have always felt that the (trial) was flawed, and we had a candid discussion about this matter. One of my associates met with his wife this morning as well, to express our interest and concern. Thank you.

FOREIGN MINISTER HAMID: Okay, thank you very much. We explained our position and our position should be understood in that way, according to the rule of law and our judicial process. Thank you.

SECRETARY POWELL: Thank you.


Released on July 30, 2002</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I simply post the message here and hope Uncle Lim may put it at the right place.</p>
<p>Why the noise now about US concern with Anwar sodomy accusation? US has made clear its position about Anwar to Syed Hamid in 2002. According to US, anwar was a political prisoner and the trial was flawed!<br />
Please read.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.state.gov/secretary/former/powell/remarks/2002/12275.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.state.gov/secretary/former/powell/remarks/2002/12275.htm</a><br />
Press Briefing With Foreign Minister Datuk Seri Syed Hamid Albar of Malaysia<br />
Secretary Colin L. Powell<br />
Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia<br />
July 30, 2002</p>
<p>FOREIGN MINISTER HAMID: Thank you very much and I am sorry to keep you waiting. I really appreciate Secretary Powell visiting Malaysia and I think that it has been a very useful visit. We have always looked forward to the visit of the Secretary of State to Malaysia. He has had a good discussion with the Prime Minister, the Deputy Prime Minister, and myself. We covered areas of bilateral interest, regional as well as international interest. All and all, we think that the discussion has been constructive. We were very frank. We were able to exchange views that will deepen and strengthen further bilateral relations. The U.S. is an important partner in the development of ASEAN and Southeast Asia as a whole.</p>
<p>SECRETARY POWELL: Thank you very much, Mr. Minister and I thank you and the Prime Minister and Deputy Prime Minister for the hospitality that you extended to me and my delegation. And I agree with you fully that our conversations were thorough in discussing bilateral issues, regional issues and trade issues and a number of other issues that we have in common.</p>
<p>I have been looking forward to this visit for a long time and am pleased that I was able to stop here on the way to the ASEAN Regional Forum Meeting and I look forward to a subsequent visit here to spend more time and see more of the country. We are sorry that we kept you waiting and in the interest of time we will go right to questions.</p>
<p>FOREIGN MINISTER HAMID: Yes, please.</p>
<p>QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, have you yet made a decision on whether you will meet your North Korean counterpart in Brunei? And Minister Hamid, did the United States ask anything of you specifically or offer you anything specifically to increase your cooperation in the war on terrorism? And did they ask for the extradition of anyone you have in detention?</p>
<p>SECRETARY POWELL: I haven’t made a decision yet with respect to my North Korean colleague. We’ll make a judgment on that after I get to Brunei.</p>
<p>FOREIGN MINISTER HAMID: On the question of terrorism, I think this is one area where we have worked effectively and strongly with the U.S. and we are very happy with that relationship. And now we are looking at the specific areas of working together. I would not discuss what it is as yet, but we are looking forward to having something substantive between the U.S. and Malaysia where we can cover the region and where it will be a forum for discussion and for exchange of views, and I think it is very useful.</p>
<p>With respect to the extradition, we have agreed with the US that whatever – if they need for evidential purposes anyone in Malaysia, whom they need to interview or they need to discuss, they can go through the normal channels that we opened between ourselves and the US for this purpose.</p>
<p>QUESTION: Did your discussion with the Secretary this morning also touch on the Middle East issue? Would you like to share with us?</p>
<p>SECRETARY POWELL: Yes, we did discuss the Middle East in all three meetings, and I described to them President Bush’s vision as contained in his 24 June speech and his commitment to bringing into being a Palestinian state, hopefully within three years, living side by side in peace with Israel.</p>
<p>I described to my colleagues the efforts we have underway with respect to security transformation within the Palestinian community, with respect to our efforts to improve the humanitarian situation within the towns and villages of the occupied territories.</p>
<p>And I wanted to make sure they knew that the United States intended to remain fully engaged until the President’s goals for all the peoples in the region, for these two nations to live side-by-side in peace (inaudible) peace comes to a reality.</p>
<p>FOREIGN MINISTER HAMID: In our case, we always believe that the United States has got the biggest role to play in order to realize the hope of seeing a peaceful Middle East. I think the Middle East conflict was going to be resolved and I think the explanation and the information and the discussion that we had with Secretary Powell was most useful and productive and we are very glad to know that the United States remains fully engaged to see a peaceful resolution in the Middle East.</p>
<p>QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, I was wondering if you had discussed human rights issues and particularly with respect to the treatment of detainees who were being held without trial in Malaysia who are suspected of having ties to terrorist groups? And Mr. Foreign Minister, I wonder if you could comment on whether you see any difference between those detainees and the detainees the United States is holding at Guantanamo Bay?</p>
<p>SECRETARY POWELL: We did discuss human rights in each meeting in the context of our counter terrorism efforts. I made the point to all my interlocutors that we still believe strongly in human rights and that everything we do has to be consistent with universal standards of human rights. We talked about the ISA which the Malaysians have used for purposes I am sure that Minister would be better able to explain. And I also touched on the case of Mr. Anwar Ibrahim in my meeting with the Foreign Minister.</p>
<p>FOREIGN MINISTER HAMID: I think Malaysia places a lot of important to human rights. But I think in so far as exercising the universal standards of human rights at the same time looking at the national interests from the national perspective, we explained that we have never used the ISA for purposes of frustrating our political opponents. But it is used for purposes of ensuring that the peace and the stability of the country is protected. If anybody takes an action which will jeopardize our security, then we have to take action.</p>
<p>I think this type of exchanges and creating understanding is very good for us. With the United States’ position, we have got certain position that we hold. I think that it has been very friendly, we have reassured him that we believe in human rights, we believe in the rule of law, we believe in the independence of the judiciary but there may be differences at the end of it when those things are implemented on the ground. I think overall, we have no problem between ourselves in explaining the whole point of view. I think that’s all. Just one last question, and then we have to go.</p>
<p>QUESTION: Do you consider Anwar Ibrahim a political prisoner?</p>
<p>SECRETARY POWELL: Yes, as you know, we believe the (trial) was flawed. The Appeals Court has acted on the first charge and that is the end of the process as it is envisioned in the Malaysian law. But we have always felt that the (trial) was flawed, and we had a candid discussion about this matter. One of my associates met with his wife this morning as well, to express our interest and concern. Thank you.</p>
<p>FOREIGN MINISTER HAMID: Okay, thank you very much. We explained our position and our position should be understood in that way, according to the rule of law and our judicial process. Thank you.</p>
<p>SECRETARY POWELL: Thank you.</p>
<p>Released on July 30, 2002</p>
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		<title>By: passerby</title>
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		<dc:creator>passerby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever it is whether he and his family have disappeared or C4ed,  this is his S.D. 3 that S.D. 2 was given under duress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever it is whether he and his family have disappeared or C4ed,  this is his S.D. 3 that S.D. 2 was given under duress.</p>
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		<title>By: justmerm</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/07/06/balasubramaniams-2-contradictory-sds-the-immediate-concern/comment-page-3/#comment-115700</link>
		<dc:creator>justmerm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 17:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WHOA...HOLD ON EVERYONE...JUST REALIZED SOMETHING...DON&#039;T YOU ALL SEE...IT&#039;S STARING AT US RIGHT IN THE FACE AND WE STILL DIDN&#039;T KNOW IT!... BALA LEFT US A CLUE WHICH SD IS TRUE AND WHICH IS FALSE WHETHER HE INTENDED TO OR NOT...GUESS WHAT???....THE SMS THAT WAS ALLEGED SENT BY DSNR TO RAZAK BAGINDA! YES!!! I&#039;m sure if its TRUE it&#039;s recorded in the phone company&#039;s computers somewhere for billing purposes. If it does not exist then the truth of Bala&#039;s first SD is doubtful.... now if only someone can get a legitimate copy of those records!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHOA&#8230;HOLD ON EVERYONE&#8230;JUST REALIZED SOMETHING&#8230;DON&#8217;T YOU ALL SEE&#8230;IT&#8217;S STARING AT US RIGHT IN THE FACE AND WE STILL DIDN&#8217;T KNOW IT!&#8230; BALA LEFT US A CLUE WHICH SD IS TRUE AND WHICH IS FALSE WHETHER HE INTENDED TO OR NOT&#8230;GUESS WHAT???&#8230;.THE SMS THAT WAS ALLEGED SENT BY DSNR TO RAZAK BAGINDA! YES!!! I&#8217;m sure if its TRUE it&#8217;s recorded in the phone company&#8217;s computers somewhere for billing purposes. If it does not exist then the truth of Bala&#8217;s first SD is doubtful&#8230;. now if only someone can get a legitimate copy of those records!!!</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/07/06/balasubramaniams-2-contradictory-sds-the-immediate-concern/comment-page-3/#comment-115692</link>
		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys! The truth is Bala is undergoing a facial make over with a plastic surgeon somewhere in the States.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys! The truth is Bala is undergoing a facial make over with a plastic surgeon somewhere in the States.</p>
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		<title>By: KS R</title>
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		<dc:creator>KS R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YB

I believe Police have threaten Bala. Najib/IGP/AG should suspanded immediately until case investigated and proven. I also do not know who can be truested. I hope Agong should set up Royal commission and also should place PR members in the Royal commission whereby BN cannot be truest anymore there is no truth very scary. 

I also very sad inspite of this, THE RAKYAT STILL TRUEST BN AND VOTE THEM GOD PLEASE OPEN THE BLINK EYES</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YB</p>
<p>I believe Police have threaten Bala. Najib/IGP/AG should suspanded immediately until case investigated and proven. I also do not know who can be truested. I hope Agong should set up Royal commission and also should place PR members in the Royal commission whereby BN cannot be truest anymore there is no truth very scary. </p>
<p>I also very sad inspite of this, THE RAKYAT STILL TRUEST BN AND VOTE THEM GOD PLEASE OPEN THE BLINK EYES</p>
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		<title>By: kritikus</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/07/06/balasubramaniams-2-contradictory-sds-the-immediate-concern/comment-page-3/#comment-115671</link>
		<dc:creator>kritikus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BALA&#039;S SD2 AND HIS DIAPPEARANCE AUTHENTICATES HIS SD1 AND THERE IS NO DOUBT ABOUT IT......... ANY ENGLISH SPEAKING PERSON CAN SIMPLY UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON...

THIS TYPE OF SCHEMING AND PLOTTING BY THE CULPRITS HAS BEEN GOING ON AND ON AND IT IS NOT SUPRISING ANYMORE......

BRAZE YOURSELF MALAYSIANS ....MALAYSIA IS CERTAINLY DOOOOOOMED AND CURSED...

MALAYSIA HAS EMULATED SODOM AND GOMORRAH... AND CONDEMNED BY THE ALMIGHTY ALLAH IN THE QURAN AND ALSO AS REVEALED IN THE INJIL....

IT IS A MATTER OF TIME WHEN THE PUNISHMENT WILL COME AND IT IS IMMINENT....

ALLAH PROTECT THE INNOCENT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BALA&#8217;S SD2 AND HIS DIAPPEARANCE AUTHENTICATES HIS SD1 AND THERE IS NO DOUBT ABOUT IT&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; ANY ENGLISH SPEAKING PERSON CAN SIMPLY UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON&#8230;</p>
<p>THIS TYPE OF SCHEMING AND PLOTTING BY THE CULPRITS HAS BEEN GOING ON AND ON AND IT IS NOT SUPRISING ANYMORE&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>BRAZE YOURSELF MALAYSIANS &#8230;.MALAYSIA IS CERTAINLY DOOOOOOMED AND CURSED&#8230;</p>
<p>MALAYSIA HAS EMULATED SODOM AND GOMORRAH&#8230; AND CONDEMNED BY THE ALMIGHTY ALLAH IN THE QURAN AND ALSO AS REVEALED IN THE INJIL&#8230;.</p>
<p>IT IS A MATTER OF TIME WHEN THE PUNISHMENT WILL COME AND IT IS IMMINENT&#8230;.</p>
<p>ALLAH PROTECT THE INNOCENT</p>
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		<title>By: justmerm</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/07/06/balasubramaniams-2-contradictory-sds-the-immediate-concern/comment-page-3/#comment-115616</link>
		<dc:creator>justmerm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 08:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Following Bala&#039;s 2 SDs what is important now is to ensure that the Altantunya trial be really fair and impartial , not just a show following a well written script with the verdict already decided beforehand. Perhaps we should ask for the present judge and prosecutor to be removed and replaced by persons chosen by someone we can trust like His Majesty Yang DiPertuan Agong.-just an idea -OR IS IT ALREADY TOO LATE?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Following Bala&#8217;s 2 SDs what is important now is to ensure that the Altantunya trial be really fair and impartial , not just a show following a well written script with the verdict already decided beforehand. Perhaps we should ask for the present judge and prosecutor to be removed and replaced by persons chosen by someone we can trust like His Majesty Yang DiPertuan Agong.-just an idea -OR IS IT ALREADY TOO LATE?</p>
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		<title>By: badak</title>
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		<dc:creator>badak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 07:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With or with out BALA.. Both his SD is good enough for the defence to call up NAJIB and ROSMAH  to court to give evidence.Now that their names are mention they can,t hide behind their position.
If NAJIB is not called then ..The ALTANTUYA murder will always haunt him..Can you imagine the PM of Malaysia involved in a murder.This is what foriegn ministers will be talking during their tea break.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With or with out BALA.. Both his SD is good enough for the defence to call up NAJIB and ROSMAH  to court to give evidence.Now that their names are mention they can,t hide behind their position.<br />
If NAJIB is not called then ..The ALTANTUYA murder will always haunt him..Can you imagine the PM of Malaysia involved in a murder.This is what foriegn ministers will be talking during their tea break.</p>
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		<title>By: lakilompat</title>
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		<dc:creator>lakilompat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 06:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;NO ONE IN GOVERNMENT EXPRESSES CONCERN ABOUT THE TAMPERING OF JUSTICE ?&quot;

Who dare, even Koh Tsu Koon has been muted for 17 years in Penang. Remain silenced give him 5.70 billion

Now YB Lim Guan Eng has been calling for 2 mega projects, the federal cut &amp; punished the Penangites -4.7 billion, left 1 billion. What can an ordinary rakyat do? the penangites suffer the most, Tsu Koon keep quiet just to remain and serve his party but for 17 years Penangites get nothing but increasing in cost of living. A plate of char koay teow cost RM 0.80 in 1991, Johor cost RM 1.50 in 1991, now in 2008 a plate of char koay teow almost the same as Johor.

We are left with 1 billion how to develop Penang? WHO CARE! the FEDERAL GOVT. is fit enough to run the country wealth? if not why not we CHANGE! but that will have to wait another 4 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;NO ONE IN GOVERNMENT EXPRESSES CONCERN ABOUT THE TAMPERING OF JUSTICE ?&#8221;</p>
<p>Who dare, even Koh Tsu Koon has been muted for 17 years in Penang. Remain silenced give him 5.70 billion</p>
<p>Now YB Lim Guan Eng has been calling for 2 mega projects, the federal cut &amp; punished the Penangites -4.7 billion, left 1 billion. What can an ordinary rakyat do? the penangites suffer the most, Tsu Koon keep quiet just to remain and serve his party but for 17 years Penangites get nothing but increasing in cost of living. A plate of char koay teow cost RM 0.80 in 1991, Johor cost RM 1.50 in 1991, now in 2008 a plate of char koay teow almost the same as Johor.</p>
<p>We are left with 1 billion how to develop Penang? WHO CARE! the FEDERAL GOVT. is fit enough to run the country wealth? if not why not we CHANGE! but that will have to wait another 4 years.</p>
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