Comments on: Altantuya/Najib link – PI Balasubramaniam SD1 vs SD2

By: shortie kiasu

shortie kiasu — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 06:49:55 +0000

Malaysians have pick up a new culture: making statutory declaration in front of a commissioner of oath. You need to pay only RM5.00 to get the commissioner of oath to sign besides your name.

The commissioner of oath has no way to ascertain what you say is true or false, only the conscience of the one who makes it know, and of course the God knows. RM5.00 per swear is cheap, and then if the swearing is sensational in whatever sense, he can go and get a politician to organize a press conference and read out the SD. He will become ‘famous’ and then if he finds he may have committed an offence under the law, just find a place to ‘disappear’ and switch all handphones.

This is ther new culture now prevailing, but unfortunately, it makes the country a laughing stock of the world.

By: JeyS

JeyS — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 08:10:57 +0000

Honestly….there shall be no end here.

Malaysia will be ruled by the corrupt, greedy for power and money politicians and their cronies. Sorry fellas thats hard reality.

One Mamak wanna be malay ruled this nation for 20 years…so you think that AAB and his cronies can’t. You know what irks me, how this ‘drama’ can tale spin that people have forgotten what the real subjects are; OUR NATION”S STATE with all the price hikes, AS’s murder, LINGAM’s case…..ahhhhhhhh….forgotten so fast already ah?

WHAT A LALA-LAND!

By: lakilompat

lakilompat — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 07:30:38 +0000

Hitler – come to an end (millionth of jews)
Musolini – come to an end (massive loss in Italian govt coffers)
T4lib4n – come to an end after bombing the sitting buddha status
Pak Lah – come to an end after ?
Najis – come to an end after Atlantuya?

By: law1999

law1999 — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 15:19:29 +0000

Be patient everthing will come to an END.

Those who are guilty no matter how they deny it. They are still guilty.

WRONG is also WRONG and cannot be made RIGHT.

RIGHT is always RIGHT and cannot be made WRONG.

Even SADDAM HUSSEIN come an END.

So be patient just WAIT and SEE.

By: limkamput

limkamput — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 07:58:36 +0000

Hello mega nincompoop, don’t try to impress here with your legal prowess. You are just a wannabe who can’t think straight and who can’t carry more than three variables in your moronic head.

By: limkamput

limkamput — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 07:55:23 +0000

Only a mega nincompoop, aka “best of both worlds type” would call for military intervention when we should least expect them to do it. A mega hypocrite and ill-conceived idiot.

By: negarawan

negarawan — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 04:51:12 +0000

I Malaysian said: “My question is how we Malaysians are going to defeat this tyrannous government which is supported by thugs in the name of polis and legal officers?”

That is the question all Malaysians have to think about hard and answer in the interest of a better and just Malaysia!

By: rainbowseahorse

rainbowseahorse — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 01:56:52 +0000

Citizenwatch, we Malaysians all know why Bala made that second SD. My point is that in the eyes of the law, he is not a credible witness anymore. You just cannot swear that what you said is the truth in the first place and then retract that and said some of that is only true.

Barble, it’s never easy fighting for justice because of the grave consequences and backlash from powerful individuals. If we are not that brave to fight for justice openly because of the ISA, police, jail, etc. there are other means to do so. Just be an “educator of the people”. Go about explaining to the Rakyat why we need to change the government, expound on the gross corruption and mismanagement that has been going on for the past 50 years. Come next election, hopefully and with Allah/God’s will, we should have a different government.

pulau_sibu Says: “…Don’t we think Razak’s wife should come forward and tell the truth…”

Have you seen Najib’s wife face up close? Now that’s one hell of a scary woman!

By: theerga

theerga — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 21:38:20 +0000

Bala was was extremely naive (for former policeman – it seem sunbelievable) or plain stupid. I was half expecting this! He had placed his wife young family in danger. These are the mooosstt! powerful people in the land. If they can make a foreigner dissapear what a chance has an ethnic indian. He is no RPK – that man has long cultivated and carved his space in malaysian society. He is, despite his mixed parentage – essentially a Malay with solid connections and friends in the right place. He is also royalty and a learned muslim. But even he was detained under the ISA. Trying to tangle with those who hold the reins of power can be a chilling terrifying experience. I should know – the last time I tried do ‘good reponsible citizen’ I was left in a state of terrified shock. Now, if I saw a policen on fire – pardon my language – I would not even PISS on him/her! I bet that breaking into a cold sweat and even possibly loosing control of all his bodily functions was highly likely – the experience Bala endured when he was at that police station. i only hope to god that he and his family have not been held or worse totured & killed.

By: kenghuei

kenghuei — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 21:00:42 +0000

My take for why it is obvious that SD1 is true :

a) It is more difficult to come up with a false SD (serious offence subject to 7 yrs jail) than to retract one (note SD2 itself is not a lie even if it excludes the part on Najib)

b) Najib/gang has more power, $$$ and control over the nation’s instruments/resources to coerce Bala to make a retraction than for Anwar/PKR who is not a goverment in power to coerce/persuade Bala to make a false SD

c) Bala’s composure reveals the truth – SD1, he was smiling and relaxed. SD2, nervous and stressed out…one pointed out that facial expression is difficult to hide, unless Bala is a Bollywood actor :)

d) His 1st lawyer, Americk confirmed that SD1 was made by his own will. An apolitical lawyer like him is unlikely to be lying. If Americk is trustworthy, Bala received a call from Brickfields police station and talked to ASP Tony before retracting the statement – clear signs of police/authority intervention

e) SD1 was made in the presence of his lawyer, PKR and full press while SD2 was made in a hurry with only his (new) lawyer and 1 press (Bernama) in a luxurious hotel

f) Lastly, by common sense, if someone has the power to force him to make a false SD, that person should have the power to ensure he sticks to it too. It could not have been so poorly done.

Having said these, YB Lim is right that this retraction only affirms to the disbeliving group that SD1 is indeed true. If there is no truth in it, there should not be any attempts by interested parties to cover it up (if you believe the retraction was forced based on 7 points above).

By, the main question that lingers in my head too is that why wasn’t Bala given due protection (even now as he went missing?) by PKR/PR/Americk esp that he can go into police station alone.. And could PKR have revealed SD1 without revealing Bala, just as in the case of Lingam tape? Perhaps, these are some points which AI/PKR have missed..

Anyway, I pray that truth and justice will prevail. There is really too much twist & turn and “liwat-meliwat” going on in M’sian politics nowadays. There needs to be divine intervention..only God knows the whole truth.

By: undergrad2

undergrad2 — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 20:50:28 +0000

When a person pleads he executes a document under duress, he is placing himself in very much the same position as a person pleading non est factum – only the latter is claiming he thought he was signing something which turned out to be something else. Both seek to rescind their statements.

By: pjboy

pjboy — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 17:40:58 +0000

Let’s pray for the safety of P.Bala & family. Perhaps he is in Turkish embassy?

The international media must be alerted about this.

Looks like DSAI vs NR has been intensified. Let’s hope this boxing match will be over soon.

By: kanthanboy

kanthanboy — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 16:55:04 +0000

Where is Balasubramaniam and his family?

The best scenario: He received the reward as promised in making the SD2 and they are enjoying life in a new country.

The worst scenario: They have been C4.

Mission accomplished: The police can now NFA SD1 and SD2 because Bala can not be found to assist in their investigation,

By: I Malaysian

I Malaysian — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 16:43:54 +0000

I became very angry at Bala’s sudden U-turn. That was until I saw his pictures at second press conference. Any ordinary person who has the average level sense would understand this man was under tremendous pressure. In fact I believe his emotion was so high that he could be crying any moment.

It is obvious there was some kind of intimidation and that notion was confirmed when one of his nephew made a police report earlier today. My question is how we Malaysians are going to defeat this tyrannous government which is supported by thugs in the name of polis and legal officers?

By: Captain

Captain — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 16:36:28 +0000

1.Bala retracted the SD immediately after he went to Police.
2.He was missing.
3.His family is missing.
4.Bala retracted exactly and precisely those parts that implicated Najib.
5.Bala is still missing.
6.He was smiling & happy during SD1 press conference.
7.He is tensed and wearing a cap during SD2.
8. najib is Deputy PM and Defence Minister. Convenient control over Police and Military intelligence.

Doesn’t it seem so convenient? Too many coincidence.

If the police forced Bala to retract SD1 anf the family is missing…. looks like another altantnya kes in the making. If it turns out true, the police must have got the ideas from Hindi/Tamil movies… called ‘gundaraj’ … using the law of the jungle. you want to see your family alive? The police should not forget soon they will be having new masters .. Pakatan. They will have to ‘pay’ for it.

The police must be investigated. where they get orders from when the chief and several seniors are also implicated?

By: undergrad2

undergrad2 — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 16:34:52 +0000

“A military General has come out to ” rebuke ” the claim of military reports of both DTK Anwar and RPK either to squash the so called ” rumuors ” or under directive from some higher authority” kenyalan08

Only a self-confessed nincompoop would deny the possibility of a role for the military in times of public unrest.

By: izrafeil

izrafeil — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 16:25:42 +0000

try looking at the past security camera at the Lion City Diamond Exhibition…. sometimes back… u will find something interesting

By: undergrad2

undergrad2 — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 16:16:11 +0000

madmix Says:

Yesterday at 13: 49.11
Raja Petra,s blog now blocked.”

Yep. But a nincompoop that we know is unhappy that his blog has not been blocked because, he thought how could they miss him? After some three decades of loyal service to the BN government, and a ‘distinguished’ PPN title to his name, he turned traitor to his own people!

By: mendela

mendela — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 15:48:48 +0000

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzmZEtqUVXs

By: mendela

mendela — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 14:53:05 +0000

Comparing the pictures taken during SD1 and SD2 press conference, it is easy to tell Bala did go through hell the night before he presented his SD2!

His eyes and face were blacken. There are scars on his hand. He was wearing a cap at SD2, I suspect there are bruises on his head too. Wearing a cap probably is to cover up his head bruises!

Looking at Bala’s face, even a 7-year kid can tell when he was under duress!