Anwar expecting the worst
SMS and phone calls have been flying around of imminent police action against Anwar Ibrahim.
I have spoken to Anwar over the phone and he is expecting the worst.
Malaysiakini had filed the following report two hours ago:
Aide alleges sodomy: Report lodged
Jun 28, 08 11:03pm
Updated June 29, 08 01.30 amA police report has been lodged against PKR de facto leader Anwar Ibrahim for allegedly sodomosing one of his aides - the second time that such an accusation had been made in over 10 years.
The report was lodged by the 23-year-old victim at the Jalan Travers police station at 6pm.
KL police chief DCP Muhammad Sabtu Osman has confirmed that the report had been made.
It is learnt that Anwar met with a number of party leaders at an emergency meeting late tonight.
At 11.15pm, PKR sent out an SMS message stating that the police had detained Anwar’s special aide Saiful Bahari this afternoon and forced him to lodge a police report about being sodomised by his boss.
It added that the police are expected to arrest Anwar soon.
Meanwhile, Anwar is expected to comment on this latest crisis at a pre-arranged press conference tomorrow.
The press conference is scheduled to be held after a meeting between Anwar and all PKR members of parliament and state assemblypersons.
Accused of sodomy in 1997
Anwar, a former deputy prime minister and finance minister of Malaysia, was sacked from the government in 1997 for allegedly being involved in sodomy and abuse of power.
In 1999, he was sentenced in a highly controversial trial to six years in prison for corruption, and in 2000, to another nine years for alleged homosexual acts.
However in 2004, the Federal Court - the country’s highest court - reversed the second conviction and he was released.
Anwar has always maintained that the charges were a government hatched political conspiracy against him, a move denied by the government.
‘A very serious situation’
Party sources said that Anwar was chairing a party supreme council meeting at a hotel in Shah Alam when he received an SMS at about 9pm on Saturday night about the police report lodged against him.
He apparently then told the party leaders that his aide Saiful had been missing for two days.
“He then received another SMS at about 9.30pm and his faced changed dramatically after reading that SMS,” said a party insider.
“He did not reveal the details of the SMS but merely said that the situation was very serious,” added the insider.
Anwar is said to have left the supreme council meeting to meet his lawyers until about 11pm.
The council however continued their meeting without Anwar.
Party leaders are saying that they have to be prepared for any eventuality.
Meanwhile at about 1am about 400 people hade gathered outside the hotel in Shah Alam to ensure that nothing happens to Anwar.
June 29th, 2008 at 01: 32.52
Sounds more like a desperate act strategised by the people at UMNO.
They’re definitely going by, Kill or Be Killed!!
June 29th, 2008 at 01: 45.45
To frame anyone for any false charges and later planting false evidences is diabolical.
Imagine what the Police can do. With a reciprocal tolerance from their political masters, one can evidently notice why police reports lodged against BN politicians or prominent figures connected to the powers-that-be are mostly uninvestigated and the police abuses are mostly whitewashed by their own men. No wonder until now the IPCMC still failed to be enact.
I am wondering as well who is really in charge? Is it PM Najib Tun Razak?
If Anwar did not do it as I believe that the police report was premeditated with coercion on the complainant who alleged that Anwar sodomized him, Malaysia is definitely not a safe place to live in.
June 29th, 2008 at 01: 49.42
A coordinated sweep by UMNO, they are trying to pin point one by one…
But on the other side, Anwar will have the chance to clear his name if their plan does not go well…
People will be watching, we can see much clearly this time…
June 29th, 2008 at 01: 51.42
in 1998, it was M’s conspiracy (watch this, clearly explain - http://jahilgoblog.net/?p=76)
after 10 years, they expect the same old stories can turn ANWAR down again!
Well, let see how many Malaysians will believe this lame, dirty, ugliest political (i wont call this is conspiracy, as it is so OBVIOUS!) tricks AGAIN! we have grown 10 years smarter dear UMNO!
June 29th, 2008 at 02: 02.34
I believe most of us are furious now!
Well, if ANWAR will be arrested due to such cause, NAJIB should be arrested as well for a 1000X worse allegation! However, i dont have faith with our judiciary and police forces. The only hope is PEOPLE. RAKYAT. We should all unite to save ANWAR as how to pledge himself to save us from BN’s dark days!!
June 29th, 2008 at 02: 06.41
if it’s UMNO’s doing… it’s just too damn obvious and old…
i’m not saying it’s not them tho…
just hv a feeling there’s more to it….
anyhow, next week’s petrol hike rally may just hv another agenda added to it….
June 29th, 2008 at 02: 22.47
[...] veteran leader Lim Kit Siang wrote in his blog that he had spoken to Anwar over the phone and that the PKR leader was expecting the [...]
June 29th, 2008 at 02: 23.06
Guys,
This time don’t let UMNO/BN push DSAI around….AGAIN!
We have had enough.
Please put a stop to all this nonsense.
We need a steady government and everyone is/was looking for him to do it.
We have to save our country!!!
Please! This is the last straw, period!
Now or never, if not Malaysia will go down the drain from here on!!!
June 29th, 2008 at 02: 25.14
This country is a goner…..because people in general just do not want to fight for anything…….if Anwar was set up…….a million people should be out in the streets tomorrow………but the KFCs, Mcdonalds, and the Jaya Juscos will make certain that people in their comfort zones will remain there….if we dont warch it…..we will be a Burma….not Thailand or Phillipines…….the Badawi junta with the help of our very very very corrupted police force will rule this land…….the people must rise or the Agong must send in the army…….the buck has to stop here……
June 29th, 2008 at 02: 26.14
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Jun
08 Press statement on police report
— PRESS STATEMENT FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE —
June 29, 2008, SHAH ALAM, MALAYSIA
The police report lodged against me earlier today is a complete fabrication. I believe we are witnessing a repeat of the methods used against me in 1998 when false allegations were made under duress. This is clearly a desperate attempt by the Barisan Nasional regime to arrest the movement of the Malaysian people towards freedom, democracy and justice.
The report has been organized by interested parties to attack me in retaliation for evidence I have recently obtained implicating IGP Musa Hassan and the AG Gani Patail in misconduct including fabrication of evidence in the cases launched against me in 1998-1999. This vile attack will not prevent me from releasing this dossier to the public.
I urge the Malaysian people to stand against the repressive forces that will be unleashed by the government in the coming days and weeks. We expect the media, the judiciary and the police force to all come under the direct and unchecked control of the executive.
My fellow Malaysians - we took a bold step forward on March 8th towards a new dawn for freedom and justice for all of our citizens. This people’s movement for change must go on with all of our strength and conviction.
ANWAR IBRAHIM
June 29th, 2008 at 02: 37.57
What an unexpected made up event.
We need a real revolution
June 29th, 2008 at 02: 38.30
AN APPEAL TO MALAYSIA’S ATTORNEY GENERAL
Please, please if you want to have Anwar charged with some crime, please do not let it be ’sodomy’. There is talk now of demonstrators gathering in front of Malaysia’s Consulate in New York. Every American would think that Malaysian leaders have nothing better to do than sodomising their aides!
June 29th, 2008 at 02: 40.38
THIS is the defining moment in the history of our nation. Whether we wither away or emerge a trully great nation depends on the events of the next few weeks.
This is DSAI’s press statement:
— PRESS STATEMENT FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE —
June 29, 2008, SHAH ALAM, MALAYSIA
The police report lodged against me earlier today is a complete fabrication. I believe we are witnessing a repeat of the methods used against me in 1998 when false allegations were made under duress. This is clearly a desperate attempt by the Barisan Nasional regime to arrest the movement of the Malaysian people towards freedom, democracy and justice.
The report has been organized by interested parties to attack me in retaliation for evidence I have recently obtained implicating IGP Musa Hassan and the AG Gani Patail in misconduct including fabrication of evidence in the cases launched against me in 1998-1999. This vile attack will not prevent me from releasing this dossier to the public.
I urge the Malaysian people to stand against the repressive forces that will be unleashed by the government in the coming days and weeks. We expect the media, the judiciary and the police force to all come under the direct and unchecked control of the executive.
My fellow Malaysians - we took a bold step forward on March 8th towards a new dawn for freedom and justice for all of our citizens. This people’s movement for change must go on with all of our strength and conviction.
ANWAR IBRAHIM
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Ever wonder why there is no action on the recommendations of the Royal Commission on the Police? Ever wonder why there is a deafening silence on the reforms within the Judiciary? Want to bet whether there will be any positive outcome to deport illegal immigrants in Sabah?
I don’t need to point you to an answer because the answer is already there for all to see. The De Facto Law Minister has noble intentions but it is obvious there are others more powerful than him or the PM within UMNO. If I were him, I would resign in a huff because you cannot teach old dogs new tricks.
I have digressed, but the point is if we have the same government we will see the same abuses repeated over and over again for the next 50 years simply because they are hoping they don’t have to change. They want to maintain status quo for the same reasons a dog will clutch on to his bone until he chews the marrow off it and reduce it to pulp. They will not change because they don’t want to change and they hope they don’t have to because in time we will forget.
So we must not (forget). We must hound them with their abuses and misdeeds and pounce on them when the time is right. They will bark, gnarl and growl, they will chase us and they will bite us but we must not let ourselves forget.
As we await with bated breath on the outcome of the police report against DSAI, we must not forget that:
We want a government of the Rakyat, by the Rakyat and for the Rakyat. Politicians are the servants of the Rakyat. We are paying them to build a better future for the Rakyat, not for themselves. Enough is enough. No more politicians enriching themselves at the Rakyat’s expense, no more wastages of our country’s resources, no more abuses of power for personal agendas, no more BN.
June 29th, 2008 at 02: 40.46
Jokes aside, we cannot let this happen!
June 29th, 2008 at 03: 31.02
So how will Abdullah respond? Party officials told The Malaysian Insider that the PM has been briefed on the move to outflank him. His supporters are in fighting mode and believe that Abdullah should use all the powers of incumbency as the PM to fight any attempt to usurp his position.
Instead of going meekly like Ghafar in 1993, they want him to borrow a page from the Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad playbook and fight like the former prime minister did when Anwar moved against him in 1998. But party officials close to Abdullah say that he and Dr Mahathir are as different as light and day and the former is unlikely to use all the “tools and tactics’’ of incumbency to stay in power.
read more here
it is like the writer has PREMONITION or could he be one of dot dot dot?
June 29th, 2008 at 03: 37.02
It can be depressing or it can be a blessing in disguise depending on how you look at it. I prefer to look at the glass as half full. We may not have to wait until September for it to be FULL full.
To be or not to be, that is the question. We can sit pretty under the air-cond and sigh and talk about it with friends and family or we can decide to do something about it. It may not have to be something as drastic as rushing out to bomb all bridges leading to DSAI to prevent the police from arresting him, perillous since only a “C4 expert” can carry it out and we only have a handful of those (experts) in Malaysia
My point being, every small little action helps. From the disseminating of information via email, blogs or sms on any news you find helpful, moral and financial support, even prayers for his safety will be a jolly good way to start.
My view is Malaysians are more informed and smart nowadays compared to 10 years ago. You may fool some people some time but you can’t fool all the people all the time. Any foolish moves from the powers that be such as this is miscalculated and will only harden the resolve of the Rakyat and at the same time hasten the BN’s demise.
So bring it on I say. Make the Rakyat angrier as if we are not angry enough with oil prices, inflation and shrinking savings. 10 RPK arrests cannot beat this mother of all arrest. HIDUP DSAI!
June 29th, 2008 at 03: 47.26
OMG! I can’t believe it! What the hell is wrong with these people! Please, please don’t let this happen again. The RAKYAT must be strong and stay united against this hopeless, corrupted and heartless government. If they get around having their dirty way again this time, I’m afraid that is it for Malaysia..that is it :’(
June 29th, 2008 at 03: 48.44
Is it the strategy of somebody to divert the people attention regarding the C4 case?
1st = Petrol hike
2nd = Put Anwar into jail
3rd = ???
4th = ???
5th = ???
Dear BN, you can never gain my vote until the day i die.
June 29th, 2008 at 04: 12.47
While I enjoy the cool summer day in UK, this is indeed shocking news. Does the end justifies the means?
Will all the brave men and women in Malaysia, show the corrupt BN government that it is people power that decides Anwar’s fate.
May our great God/Allah protect Anwar and Malaysia from the new round of victimisation.
June 29th, 2008 at 04: 27.11
Battle Stations!! Code Red !!
June 29th, 2008 at 04: 27.23
Talks about staying united don’t mean much if right thinking Malaysians are going to be mere bystanders yet again!! If Anwar is arrested Malaysians should take to the streets this time. It is time they make a difference.
Key members of the police and the armed forces should be made to ‘declare’ their loyalty now to King and country. Our Armed Forces have been subservient to civilian authority for far too long and should see their role more as keepers of that moral authority which BN has recently lost - the legitimacy and the moral authority to rule in a democracy dedicated to freedom, justice and the rule of law.
The Malay Rulers must be involved in the process. Otherwise it is déjà vu all over again!
June 29th, 2008 at 04: 27.26
Even if Annuar goes there are other capable leaders who can helm the party.This arrest if made will make way for the total capture of the country by the alternative government in the next election.UMNO had forgotten about the black eye which led to the defeat of BN in Terengganu.This time around the country will see some dramatic response unlike during the Mahathir era.Such a move to bring down leaders will not do good to the country.The police with the help of anybody can frame any charges but it will finally reflect on them.Are we becoming another Mugabe?
June 29th, 2008 at 04: 31.54
I am deeply sadden by this horrendous news!
This absurd accusation can happen to anyone … we must put a stop to all this.
10 years ago, although i knew DSAI was innocent i could not do nothing to help. Seriously, please tell me how can I help?
June 29th, 2008 at 04: 42.55
Police officer gets a mere DISCIPLINARY ACTION for raping a 17-year old girl in polic station.
A thorn in the flesh like DSAI? 10 years? That is if IGP Musa Hassan and AG Abdul Gani Patail can pull off another fabrication trick on the rakyat. We have wised up, mind you!
So DSAI & RPK, show us the proofs
June 29th, 2008 at 04: 53.16
Holy sit, here we go for again to annul the anal.
If there is a time our ‘rulers’ has a role to play as the defender of the people, this is it. The citizenry have practically exhausted all venues for justice, and we are taxed and strained mentally and physically to the limit of our resolve. What more must we sacrifice that we might see righteousness?
June 29th, 2008 at 05: 04.23
[...] course politicians are all actors. They can get sms-es and act “surprised”. They can call for a meeting and plan the next c… It is the perfect time for people to throw their support to the opposition now because of the oil [...]
June 29th, 2008 at 05: 44.19
This is total disregard to the peoples political will.
Are we heading towards a pariah nation ?
Are we ready for sanctions from the international community ?
There will be another political tsunami to sweep away the BN for good.
The government is underestimating the peoples’ will.
June 29th, 2008 at 05: 55.04
Let all Malaysians learn from the history of the world: In every political crisis, the first thing and most powerful thing to do is to pray to God that He will interevene for the truth to prevail, the lies to be exposed, the injustice to be reversed and the innoncent to be protected from the evil that has taken the hearts of men.
So let us unravel the enemy’s plans and bind their feet before they take further action by praying for God’s divine intervention.
2008 was prophecied by a foreign visitor last year as a year of change and birth pangs for Malaysia. If the Opposition leader is charged and arrested, is now the time for all citizens to gather their families and friends together and pray as a nation that the next tsunami will be as peaceful and mature as the first one on 8 March 2008?
June 29th, 2008 at 06: 20.34
This government is losing its credibility. It is taking us all to
‘ holland ‘
June 29th, 2008 at 06: 28.35
To most Malaysians indeed they view with concerns how polarized PDRM management is towards the RPK SD [in connection with murder case of the Mongolian] versus the sodomy report [against DSAI]. Going by PDRM verbage as reported both in the msm and alternative media, the partiality of PDRM towards the sodomy report is clear: action against the perpetrator.
In the RPK SD, PDRM action is mooted against RPK the ‘reporter’ who made the declaration.
It is modus operandi of the PDRM, and many police around the world, to work with the informants or the reporters in the first place. Many Malaysian can testify with their first or second hand experiences to this.
So what and why, in this sodomy report, has caused PDRM intensity and focus not on the aide who made the report? This indeed is a major diversion from the norms.
More baffling still. PDRM know the Malaysian public can see through this, and yet they are doing it. One explanation such attitude is borne on the confidence that the Malaysian public is lethargic at large, and devoid of the will and courage to rise against them however the man on the street is abused.
Perhaps, so long as the subject matter does not spell directly an affront against melayu, PDRM know for sure the Malaysian public will not bother.
June 29th, 2008 at 06: 57.16
The country has gone to the dogs. Nothing better than Mugabe’s regime. Perhaps a retaliation for linking him to Mongolia. Sodomy again? They can’t be so uninventive. Or are they getting secret advice from the former PM?
June 29th, 2008 at 07: 13.33
OK! OK! Where’s the mattress?
Clearly now its an all out declaration of WAR!!!
This time there will only be one winner!!
June 29th, 2008 at 07: 28.57
Looks like we are heading towards a declaration of Emergency and a suspension of Parliament - on the worst case scenario.
June 29th, 2008 at 07: 47.30
I am shocked hearing such accusations. Just cannot imagine how on earth can some people in UMNO or Govt be so so so evil to try concort such allegations again. Dont they have any heart inside them?
The police seems to act so quickly…..and its them against us rakyat. Remember the BMC case? Police can gang up to beat, kick and battered a young man till he is like a pulp…and any actions against those who did it? NO! They even have the nerve to say its his facult. Who in their sense of mind will dare to knock into a police?
The police are licensed gangsters. Rakyat must wake uo to such accusations and showed the police their unfair un just biasness is all rubbish. I wan to puke.
June 29th, 2008 at 07: 52.31
This is what happens when the Police, the AG’s Chambers and the Judiciary are beholden to the executive. Badawi will never institute reforms as promised because UMNO can never afford to have independence of such institutions. Their entire reason of survival is the use of such institutions against those who oppose them, those who expose their wrongdoings.
Such acts of desperation can only be equated to those of Mugabe. There is no other parallel. Even Kim Jong Il has decided to come clean with the rest of the world.
June 29th, 2008 at 07: 54.20
If Anwar is arrested for a mere police report lodged against him, then there will be such an outcry amongst the rakyat that there will be insufficient prisons to accomodate those of us who are outraged.
June 29th, 2008 at 07: 59.40
WTF?
I didn’t know September starts tomorrow for BN
haha they got so scared they are doing expected craps
at the wrong time. Can they be any dumber? Maybe they cud be!
Pathetic Political Move
June 29th, 2008 at 08: 06.38
Desperate people will do desperate things. Mahathir was desperate to be rid of Anwar in the 90s, and the den of thieves is desperate to be rid of Anwar now. The mainstream press is again shamelessly questioning the credibility of Anwar, when it took them almost one week to print the Declaration of RPK.
We really need to get this country on the right footing, and no half measures this time. The den of thieves must be made to account for their lawlessness.
June 29th, 2008 at 08: 13.26
Yeah, Najis, go find a mattress, a DNA expert, a judge, a butt doctor, some police investigators and we can repeat the trial of the 90s.
June 29th, 2008 at 08: 33.13
The preliminary thought that comes to mind is that we should brace for difficult times of protracted political uncertainty aggravating a deteriorating economic situation.
The news on Anwar is not only bad for him but bad for the Opposition (Paktan Rakyat) of which he is defacto head and, ironically, bad too for the government, which knowing it, it will pursue Anwar’s prosecution.
I say this even IF Anwar were really guilty of the latest allegations (which I am not prejudging or saying, at this juncture that he is or is not).
In matters of this sort, the truth matters not, what matters is evidence and even more important public and popular perception/bias of what is the truth.
No matter what – even if the state were to produce DNA as evidence, the public will not, at this juncture, believe.
In the first place the Federal Court on 2nd September 2004 overturned by majority of 2-1 Anwar’s earlier conviction on Sodomy.
To charge him once again, his lawyers would straightaway raise preliminary procedural objection of what is known as ‘double jeopardy’.
Derived from a fundamental and ancient rule of law that extends back to the time of the Ancient Greeks “autrefois acquit” or double jeopardy is both a rule of law and a legal right that no person should be tried twice for the “same offence” of which he has been previously acquitted or convicted. This principle deeply ingrained in Anglo-American system of jurisprudence find expression in Article 7(2) of our Federal Constitution.
The underlying idea – and spirit behind Double Jeopardy rule - is that the State with all its resources and power should not be allowed to make repeated attempts to convict an individual for an alleged offence, thereby subjecting him to embarrassment, expense and ordeal and compelling him to live in a continuing state of anxiety and insecurity, as well as enhancing the possibility that even though innocent he may be found guilty….
How the rule is applied in Malaysia is not very developed by past cases, and much will depend on the lawyers arguing what is the scope of the expression “same offence” and whether a fact matrix involving different victim, a different time and place would exclude double jeopardy application on grounds that it is not same offence. Even if double jeopardy is thrown out, they will still have to prove guilt beyond reasonable doubt. All this investigations, trial motions will drag and take time, maybe years.
The problem is – even if the technical requirements of double jeopardy could not be established by Anwar’s defence team – the spirit of what double jeopardy seeks to guard Anwar against would be satisfied, in lay public opinion.
The government is in the eyes of the public already guilty : the Lingam video clip shows a judiciary compromised by executive interference; past prosecution of Anwar has been shown to be political persecution vindicated by his earlier sodomy conviction being overturned; questions swirl around the manner of state prosecution of Altantuya Shaaribuu murder case especially in light of RPK’s statutory declaration, and people question why when it comes to sexual deviance like sodomy there is more enthusiasm and alacrity to pursue investigation twice over than a graver offence like murder, and so and so on….
Against this backdrop of negative public opinion, there is a real risk that if Anwar were prosecuted, many people would take to the streets, which the government may respond by crack down.
The gridlock is that if authorities manage to procure convincing evidence (DNA for example), the ‘powers that be’ will not give up bringing down he who represents the biggest threat to their political survival and relevance - and equally no matter how convincing the forensic evidence, it will not convince an iota of the pre-set beliefs of people to whom the very existence of BN is disaproved as a scourge on this country : they will say the evidence is fabricated/manufactured; the complainant aide (mere 3 months recruited to help in election) was planted as agent provocateur; that the whole prosecution is mala fide trying to undo and unwind the people’s gain from the poiltical tsunami of 8th March.
The government including its entire criminal justice and administration system will not be given the benefit of doubt in the Court of Public Opinion and this is where the gridlock lies – two opposing positions neither giving in to the other.
So all this means that if the authorities persist in prosecution (which it is 99.99% likely to do), it may – though I hope not - lead to massive confrontation and unrests on the streets, bad for peace, bad for investment, bad for everybody.
June 29th, 2008 at 08: 39.06
I don’t know the background of Anwar’s aides, Saiful Bahari. Was he formerly a member of UMNO before joining PKR?
I think PKR should admit UMNO ex-members into their party with the utmost caution in case they are spies of UMNO or sabotagers.
Saiful Bahri might not have been an UMNO member before, but decided to try his luck after being lured by money and promises offered by UMNO.
The police were said to have FORCED Saiful Bahri to lodge a police report about being sodomised by his boss. Rarely we see Malaysian police so zealous in their work; obviously they are being controlled by powerful unseen hands.
Would a person, seeing that he has a good chance of becoming the next PM (the highest office in the country), do anything negative to jeopardize his chances? I think he certainly would not.
June 29th, 2008 at 08: 43.27
Before the elections, I was having a chat with a senior Treasury official, and he advised us to brace for difficult economic times ahead. He said that BN was spending money like there was no tomorrow, Badawi went against Treasury advice in giving out the quantum of increases to the civil service, etc. That was when oil was at US$100 per barrel.
Now with oil at US$140 per barrel, the US (our largest trading partner) heading into stagflation, Badawi throwing cookies to renegade states and trying desperately to throw cookies to the UMNO grassroots to ensure his own survival, there is no money left in the federal coffers. Contractors big and small have not been paid, prices of raw materials are skyrocketing, and there are so many stalled or half-completed projects.
What do we expect this corrupt regime to do ? The tactics that they learnt from Mugabe - diversion, distraction and if these don’t work, go on the offensive.
June 29th, 2008 at 08: 50.03
I am dumb founded. People who are desperate can resort to desparate measures. Unless the country is purged of such evils and wickedness in high places we the rakyat will forever be doomed to live under the rule of darkness.
June 29th, 2008 at 08: 51.43
After my initial horror reaction to the news, I now realise how desperate the BN gomen has become. It is now so blatantly obvious that this gomen is clinging onto straws to stay afloat. Battered by pressure from every kopitiam corners from Perlis to Sabah, the enemies of the rakyat have resorted to another dastardly act of extreme evil.
However, the rakyat has wisen up. Unlike the last time, DSAI was totally defenceless. But today, he has strong backing from all four corners. Yes, the gomen will not stop at disparaging all that acts against its wishes, rightly or wrongly but its time is UP!!
DSAI should be able to deflect this latest accusation and start his own counterattacks. No doubt BN has copied Sun Tze’s ART OF WAR but they haven’t learnt that from the failure of the first attempt that eventually collapsed. This time, they shall not be forgiven. Like I said before, its time to build a BIGGER, LARGER SG BULOH JAIL but this time, the INMATES SHALL BE THE ACCUSERS!
June 29th, 2008 at 09: 19.28
“No person shall be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb” (it sounds odd because I’m borrowing the language of the Fifth Amendment, U.S. Constitution).
What is the ‘same offence’? Only conduct that occurs in one criminal transaction can be treated as one offence. A single criminal transaction is one episode so closely linked in time place and circumstances that it must be examined as one unitary whole. Thus you are not placed in jeopardy twice for the same offence when you are prosecuted twice, once for stealing the hubcaps on the left side of the car and once for stealing the hubcaps on the right side of the car the following day. But if you had stolen all four hubcaps in one criminal transaction, all four hubcaps would constitute the same offence.
It is true if you’re not careful you could go wrong easily as to what constitutes a continuing criminal conduct. But what should be clear is that a retrial is not possible when the accused has been acquitted.
The fact that Anwar had been charged some time ago with the offence of sodomy does not mean he is now put at risk twice if charged for the offence of sodomy. It is not the ‘same offence’!
I don’t know where you are going with your comment:
“To charge him once again, his lawyers would straightaway raise preliminary procedural objection of what is known as ‘double jeopardy’”
There is no double jeopardy involved.
June 29th, 2008 at 09: 21.08
Sorry, above comment is meant to address issues raised earlier by Jeff QC.
June 29th, 2008 at 09: 32.04
[...] veteran leader Lim Kit Siang wrote in his blog that he had spoken to Anwar over the phone and that the PKR leader was expecting the [...]
June 29th, 2008 at 09: 34.22
“Now with oil at US$140 per barrel, the US (our largest trading partner) heading into stagflation…” Godfather
Don’t know about stagflation but the word most feared today is recession. DOW plumetted to a new low, consumer confidence is low, people are not spending etc. Food prices are rising. Everyday you hear people getting laid off, losing their jobs as businesses try to cope with the declining demand. People who should be retiring are not retiring and are working off whatever income they could earn.
IRS has issued the first round of tax rebates in an attempt to make consumers spend money. The second round is coming soon. But it is a case of too little too late.
June 29th, 2008 at 09: 37.29
ooops tax rebate checks
June 29th, 2008 at 09: 38.07
I read with sadness about the state of Malaysian politics of today. To revert to barbaric political tactics to stay in power is both ruthless and shameless and simply appalling. My thoughts and prayers to the Leaders who try to make a difference and a change to all Malaysians. God bless.
June 29th, 2008 at 09: 38.36
So far it was 23-year-old Anwar’s aide, Saiful Bahari who lodged the police report of being a victim of sodomy at the Jalan Travers police station at 6 pm 28th June. Police have not yet investigated the report, much less submitted their findings to AG, and AG for the govt has not preferred any charge yet.
However as preemptive move, Anwar said in his statement - “The report has been organised by interested parties to attack me in retaliation for evidence I have recently obtained implicating IGP (inspector-general of police) Musa Hassan and the AG (attorney-general) Gani Patail in misconduct including fabrication of evidence in the cases launched against me in 1998-1999. This vile attack will not prevent me from releasing this dossier to the public.”
Can Anwar disclose and prove who are specifically the “interested parties” who ‘organised’ Saiful Bahari to lodge a report that Anwar alleges “fabricated”?
Anwar has made a serious allegation which, if true and proven, is not only exculpatory of allegations against him but in addition also implicate Saiful Bahari and all those parties” who ‘organised’ him to lodge the report in the offence of criminal conspiracy.
The onus is on whim to prove what he alleges and how he could in first instance exercise such lack of due care to have placed himself in a position of appointing a political aide, whom he now alleges is in apparent conspiracy with “interested parties” out to destroy him.
June 29th, 2008 at 09: 49.39
Anwar said unscrupulous persons filed the sodomy report against him because he has collected evidence of wrong doings of two top police officials M. H. and A. G. (see Malaysiakini, Chinese Edition). He said the sodomy accusation would not stop him from publishing and exposing their wrong doings.
He urged Malaysians to be prepared for a government repression in the next few days or weeks.
June 29th, 2008 at 09: 55.36
Undergrad2,
I understand what you’re saying about double jeopardy & separate offences but this guy (Anwar) is a smart guy with smart lawyers coming out with his latest statement (earlier posted.
The test for double jeopardy is whether it is a continuing same transaction between the first offence of sodomy for which he was charged, convicted and acquitted and the second that he thinks that he will be….
So to show same continuing transaction of the first to the second, his latest statement - (quote) “ I have recently obtained implicating IGP (inspector-general of police) Musa Hassan and the AG (attorney-general) Gani Patail in misconduct including fabrication of evidence in the cases launched against me in 1998-1999. This vile attack will not prevent me from releasing this dossier to the public.”
See the drift and connection (in light of double jeopardy’s objective – to not allow repeated attempts (one continuing to the other as if one transaction albeit separated by different victims and time) from one “interested source” to convict an individual for an alleged same offence, thereby subjecting him to embarrassment, expense and ordeal ?
June 29th, 2008 at 09: 59.37
PR leaders must closely scrutinize the background of their aides to prevent gold-diggers such as Azizan the driver and Saiful Bahari who can easily be bought over. This dirty tactic has been successfully applied by African despots to get rid of their opponents, so there is every chance that it will be successful here, too.
June 29th, 2008 at 10: 05.03
If the police believe that they can walk up to Anwar’s spacious home, whisk him away in unmarked police cars and detain him indefinitely under the Internal Security Act like they did in 1998, they will be in for a rude shock. Not only will Pakatan Rakyat bring large crowds onto the streets across the country but the authority of the BN government to rule Malaysia will be severely undermined.
Anwar has to be given due process, the police investigations must be transparent, and the evidence must be able to withstand the toughest scrutiny. Otherwise, it will be Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi and his administration which will end up being on trial. And it will not be a pretty sight.
http://themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/home/42-lead-stories/1172-a-different-malaysia-10-years-on
June 29th, 2008 at 10: 11.50
People, please .. this may be an attempt to sidetrack us from major issues. Please concentrate Fully on C4 , Altantuya and the Statutory Declaration
June 29th, 2008 at 10: 12.56
[...] read: Rocky’s Bru Zorro Lim Kit Siang Tok Mommy The Malaysian Insider The StarOnline The People’s [...]
June 29th, 2008 at 10: 14.43
Read his statement - “I believe we are witnessing a repeat of the methods used against me in 1998 when false allegations were made under duress. ..The report has been organised by interested parties to attack me in retaliation for evidence I have recently obtained implicating IGP (inspector-general of police) Musa Hassan and the AG (attorney-general) Gani Patail in misconduct including fabrication of evidence in the cases launched against me in 1998-1999. This vile attack will not prevent me from releasing this dossier to the public….”
In double jeopardy the “same transaction” test has been used. Here the preemptive move is to say that first sodomy charge and the future second though involving different victims and facts and separated in time are on both occasions triggered by same motivations and same set of interested parties against which justice requires that he should not be subject to two times jeopardy which is what the rule, at its heart, is all about.
This raises troubling questions. 1. it is very serious allegations he has made against the two top law enforcement officers in the nation, which if he has no such a dossier or if he has the dossier does not contain evidence that could stand the light of judicial scrutiny, Anwar will be in deep trouble over a separate issue/offence; on the other hand if he had this dossier all along, it raises troubling question of why didn’t he disclose its existence earlier (at the time he showed executive interference of judiciary by revealing about Lingam clip) .This is no good as this will lead to further questions of why he keeps dossiers (and not disclose them to public until he’s under pressure as like now) just like what he accuses his political enemies of doing by way of political blackmail!
June 29th, 2008 at 10: 19.45
God bless Malaysia !!
God bless Anwar !!
Justice will prevail !!!
June 29th, 2008 at 10: 24.18
To Undergrad2,
On the basis of what I said, he will likely raise “double jeopardy” defence - that the first offence of sodomy and the future second though involving diifferent victims, facts and place are still “same offence” (not as it is understood commonly by laymen) but in the special context of what it is intended in law of double jeopardy linking the first and second by “one transaction” criteria. You wiull note that his latest statement was made after legal advice.
June 29th, 2008 at 10: 26.17
[...] Lim kit Siang [...]
June 29th, 2008 at 10: 26.43
UMNO sounds so great since it declares its’ Ketuanan Melayu and its’ Kedaulatan Melayu. Why is it attacking its’ own people ? There are other politicians committing moral crimes but they are so well protected and allowed to go on with their political careers. Why not just open up all the pandora boxes and see what interesting articles are inside ?
June 29th, 2008 at 10: 30.52
Let’s face it, if it is fabricated, they will have made sure that Saiful Bahari did have anal sex. Contrary to what many might think, anal sex is quite a frequent occurrence, despite of being looked down on.
So let us assume that the hospital does find traces of anal penetration. Who knows by whom? What next? Proven as guilty?
Please, not again!
June 29th, 2008 at 10: 33.26
The Federal Court on 2nd September 2004 overturned by majority of 2-1 Anwar’s earlier conviction on Sodomy. From then until now he has never raised any issue about AG or IGP’s role in 1998-1999 or anything about his dossier. Neither was there a need to : he was acquitted. So why now - and the inuendoes of link to Saiful Bahari? I thought it was obvious. In a nutshell he’s already premptiing and saying that they (authorities) don’t have to prove beyond reasonable doubt his guilt on sodomy because regardless whether Saiful Bahari’s allegations were true or false, provable or not, he is protected by rule against double jeopardy in article 7(2) of the constitution based on “same transaction” test.
June 29th, 2008 at 10: 34.36
UMNO can arrest and charge Anwar, nobody is going to believe UMNO.
June 29th, 2008 at 10: 35.11
See how the mainstream media works - their silence on RPK’s Statutory Declaration implicating Deputy Prime Minister Najib and his wife Rosmah and Prime Minister Abdullah Badawi, was deafening for days!
Now this Aide’s allegation against Anwar Ibrahim just couldn’t wait to get reported, even on last night’s news. This is Malaysia and its crony-owned controlled media, how dirty they are?!
June 29th, 2008 at 10: 35.32
RCI on Lingamgate implicated people like Tengku Adnan. He still remains as Sec-Gen of BN, and a senior cabinet minister. Yes, he has filed for judicial review, but he still struts around without a care in the world. Maybe he knows that with the AG’s Chambers, the Police and the ACA in cahoots with the BN administration, plus certain senior judges being tainted, there is practically no chance of him being brought to justice.
Justice is what UMNO says it is.
June 29th, 2008 at 10: 43.19
only those nobrainers will be swayed away by this stupid nonsense and those who fabricated this matter are worse than nobrainer
June 29th, 2008 at 10: 44.11
Don’t follow you Jeffrey QC!
What is that ‘same offence’ - that one criminal transaction, that one episode?
Only conduct that occurs in one criminal transaction can be treated as one offence. A single criminal transaction is one episode so closely linked in time place and circumstances that it must be examined as one unitary whole.
June 29th, 2008 at 10: 45.00
They could not make an Anwar movie of the type Chua Sial Leg is capable of, so they have to resort to this no-brainer
June 29th, 2008 at 10: 46.04
Umno would have planted him three months ago.
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June 29th, 2008 at 10: 48.05
If they arrest Anwar Ibrahim on Saiful Bahari’s polis report, while Deputy PM Najib and his wife Rosmah Mansor who have been implicated in Raja Petra’s Statutory Declaration, allegedly to have involved in murder of Mongolian Altantuya Shaariibu, also the Prime Minister of Malaysia Abdullah Ahmad Badawi as accessory to the crime, are still having a free run, then Malaysians must all take to the streets in protest! This is so one-sidedly unfair, despicable, and dirty. Are they above the law?
June 29th, 2008 at 10: 53.25
Double jeopardy won’t work in this case, but allegations of conflict and bias may sway the courts. Anwar is going to lodge police reports against the AG and the IGP.
June 29th, 2008 at 10: 55.07
[...] veteran Lim Kit Siang wrote in his blog that he had spoken to Anwar over the phone and that the PKR leader was expecting the [...]
June 29th, 2008 at 11: 03.25
If this is really fabrication, then PR should thank them for this stupid move, because even fence-sitters, non-Anwar fans and anyone with brains would be wondering…
Even if Anwar really does have perverted tastes, can he be soooo stupid as to put himself at risk, especially at this moment in time? No brainer.
This might actually hasten the demise of BN…
June 29th, 2008 at 11: 04.07
If Anwar has made report against IGP and AG for misusing their office, and misconduct, then they also should not be allowed to be involved in investigations into Raja Petra`s SD on the Altantunya case.
Only way is to have a Royal Commission Of Inquiry into the PM, DPM, Rosmah and Khairy
June 29th, 2008 at 11: 08.59
Is Malaysia a democratic country? Thought no one is guilty until proven. Or has the Rule change? This, I blame the component parties of BN - MCA and the likes. Silent for their vested interests until even our constitutional rights are gone. May this be a lesson to all elected representatives, the interests of those you represent must take precedence. We, electorates are no more ignorant. Time for CHANGE!
June 29th, 2008 at 11: 13.49
This is another BN’s tactic i.e. “fighting a BUSH FIRE(Altantuya aka C4) WITH BUSH FIRE”. They know they cannot fight a bush fire with a bone fire, so they create a “BUSH FIRE”….smart isn’t it!
It looks like BLOODAWI AND HIS GANG, NAJIS AND KHAIRY are sooooo BANKRUPT OF IDEA THAT THEY HAVE TO BORROW IDEA FROM MAHATHIR….what a shame!
June 29th, 2008 at 11: 14.16
Malaysiakini report June 08 9:42am - “a Police report is expected to be lodged against the police chief Musa Hassan and attorney-general A Gani Patail this morning over their alleged misconduct during Anwar Ibrahim’s trials in 1998-1999. Lawyers acting for the PKR de facto leader are expected to lodge the report.
You asking IGP to invetigate himself or AG to charge himself?
Of course not. The police report is to pave way for the defence of double jeopardy (if charged)…
The interesting point is that Saiful Bahari has only lodged a report. Police have not completed investigations; they have not said they would be arresting Anwar; the AG has not charged him.
So why out of a sudden lodge a report against the IGP & AG?
He got proof that Saiful Bahari’s report was linked to any conspiracy with the two top officers?
If not why lodge a police report of the alleged misconduct of these top officers during Anwar Ibrahim’s trials in 1998-1999 them only NOW and not before?
DSAI, you have to think most carefully of the consequences of your actions, and don’t listen to just legal advice without weighing against common sense and political judgment. Your lawyers may be good trial and legal strategists in court room and they give you good legal perspective but good legal perpective and preemptive measures may not necessarily be good political strategies, which only you should judge. Many (not all) lawyers have a myopic tunnel vision of analysing every move in terms of legal strategy. They think of winning their legal battles sometimes causing their clients to lose the bigger war.
June 29th, 2008 at 11: 27.55
Mahathir got away with it the last time……this time BERSIH, HINDRAF, REFORMASI MUST BE ON THE STREETS……..the people must save this land……….the PKR/DAP/PAS must mobilise their forces now…..this government and this police force must go…..the Agong must call in the army….BE PREPARED!!!!!!
June 29th, 2008 at 11: 41.39
Agree with Raven77,
A lot of Malaysians are cowards and ignorant. Thats why for 50 years we bieng fooled by BN.
If anything happens to DS Anwar Ibrahim, ITS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE ON TO THE STREETS AND FIGHT FOR A REVOLUTION!
No more 100k or 200k protesters, we need millions this time! And I am Definately ready to go on to the streets if DSAI got arrested. BN is Too Much. No point staying at home do the same thing you always do while LIFE is getting tougher due to BN’s action.
IT’S TIME!
June 29th, 2008 at 11: 43.46
I was shocked when i learned about this news because it’s so obvious they running out of excuse. What a joke! Guess we won’t see the coming debate between Datuk Ahmad Shabery with Datuk Seri Anwar then.
June 29th, 2008 at 11: 47.06
The latest development appears to be quite a desparate attempt to stop Anwar from carrying out his threat to entice the BN MP’s to defect to PKR.
The March 8, 2008 politaical tsunami is process towards change after 50 years of being governed by a powerful political party that has lost touch with her people. This augers well for the nation as we witness the emergence of a two party system and therefore more accountability. This is a creative process if we look at it from the natural five element theory … The March 8, 2008 tsunami is a water process and it nurtures ‘wood’ or change.
The move to re-arrest AI and hence create instability is a ‘fire ‘process… fire donsumes or destroys wood (change). Hold your breaths my fellow Malaysians… In nature no single force can absolutely overcome the other. We are just spectators to this powerful interplay of opposing forces…
June 29th, 2008 at 11: 48.35
/// Michael Sun Says:
Today at 04: 12.47 (7 hours ago)
Does the end justifies the means? ///
Michael, this would be hilarious if the accusation against Anwar was not serious and tragic. I don’t think your pun was intended, but given the gravity of the situation, you should have been more careful with what you said.
Don’t worry, with hindsight - I don’t think your faux pas was intentional.
June 29th, 2008 at 11: 57.15
Undergrad2,
It is interesting for you to look up the scope what costitutes same offence by the “same-transaction” test in relation to double jeopardy developed after US supreme court case of Ashe v. Swenson, 397 . Here the one relying on such a defence has to show a consistent mala fide prosecutorial intent to get a person for certain offence (say) sodomy and where the earlier one failed, another one is soon after concocted, albeit based on different victim and place of offence, and upon such a single prosecutorial goal or intent being established, it is then proceeded to be argued that the first and second cases (though involving different victims) may yet be considered “same offence” by the same transaction test. Admittedly this same transaction test and its scope are still fraught with contesting different opinions and is being subject to further judicial refinement.
June 29th, 2008 at 12: 01.12
I suggest you all under People’s Party ……insist..Anwar to be like Lee Kuan Yew…sue and prove he is totally innocent and value his reputation…thus protecting the clean opposition image.
I hope People’s Party leaders…do not be like UMNO guys…talk alot…dare not sue.
Why do you say Anwar is expecting the worst?
Don’t tell me…he is expecting another kangaroo court case….to find him guilty? How can that be so..when oppositions are so strong…and no more dictator….ruling the country.
This will be a good test…how sincere and strong is People’s Party.
Maybe DAP is contented with Penang only?
June 29th, 2008 at 12: 02.00
Alas what have we become !
A 23 yr old strong young man could not fight the action of a 62 yr old weaker man !!
So hard to believe……..
June 29th, 2008 at 12: 05.44
This is what happens when some people don’t think twice during the recent GE12 and voted for the damn BN. Fuel price hikes, increase cost of living, economy going down the drain, Msia becoming a laughing stock of other countries, and the most recent news - Anwar Ibrahim being framed for sodomy again.
If the damn BN thinks that the people are stupid, they are definately insulting our intelligence. We, the ordinary Malaysian citizens are not stupid. The damn BN people are. Its time for us to wake up and stop voting for BN.
WE NEED A CHANGE!!
June 29th, 2008 at 12: 13.52
Why government always does something against the poor?
Now they want to collect wind fall tax from the small estate holder.
When the crude palm oil drop below RM 100 per ton, they never help the small estate holder, now the price become better, they want to impose will fall tax?
June 29th, 2008 at 12: 27.46
http://www.malaysia-today.net/2008/content/view/9361/84/
Saiful Bukhari Azlan works for Deputy Prime Minister Najib Tun Razak.
June 29th, 2008 at 12: 30.48
Full Name: Mohd. Saiful Bukhari bin Azlan
IC No.: 850706-01-5687
IPTA: UNITEN
Student ID: EP075085
Course: Electrical & Electronic Engineering
Friendster: http://profiles.friendster.com/saifulbukhari
Other Activities:
* Participant, 2nd ASEAN Student Leader’s Summit & Cultural Festival, Philippines (January 22-26, 2007)
* Deputy President (I) Majlis Perwakilan Pelajar UNITEN (2006/2007)
June 29th, 2008 at 12: 36.37
Pak Lah & Najib are getting desperate…both see their grasp of the PM’s post slowly slipping away!
Desperate people will do desperate things.
They don’t care who they hurt or who the destroy as long as they achieve their selfish ends.
How long must we take this type of behaviour?!
God help Malaysia & Malaysians!
June 29th, 2008 at 12: 40.12
Not wanting to sound “I told you so” but this was what I wrote two days ago.
citizenwatch Says:
June 27th, 2008 (2 days ago) at 15: 26.15
The way BN and especially the PM and DPM go about with their daily routines despite RPK’s SD, among other things, as though nothing happened, is probably pointing to a bigger major plan by these heartless UMNO politicians. The 9MP Mid-Term Review is a subterfuge to buy time and also with the hope to convince the rakyat current economic woes are a result of global problems and will dilute whatever mismanagement and corruption by the government.
Despite their flip-flop ways, they are planning something which we have to be cautious about. They can either have the strategy of cut and run or continue with ruling, ‘business as usual’ with protracted strategy of misinformation through MSM until the next GE. Meanwhile, someting is up their sleeve while we underestimate them.We can’t let our guard down and get caught unaware.
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The police report against Anwar is BN’s strategy to stop him and PR in their tracks and at the same time as a distraction to the explosive SD by RPK. BN is getting into the parameters of the psychology of bloggers by diverting attention from RPK’s SD which has been a hot damning topic for BN to Anwar’s so-called ‘faux pas’ hoping for negative feedbacks. But the govt’s credibility has taken such a beating if they conceive a badly planned script it will only backfire and what they say will not hold water.
The pro change blogging community should do well to continue to relentlessly seek for the truth and justice, press for more transparency and accountability from the govt, police, judiciary. The blogging and polemic for RPK’s SD have naturally cooled down but we are not going to let that happen. Don’t let the new episode from the BN script attacking Anwar distract us from continuing to do what we are here for.
June 29th, 2008 at 12: 48.29
“The damn BN people are. Its time for us to wake up and stop voting for BN.” - Cynthialeow
Cynthialeow, I think that the BN will do a Zimbabwe in Malaysia.
Win or lose, they’ll not relinquish power.
Time to think of the next move.
June 29th, 2008 at 12: 50.52
Citizenwatch, yes I read what you wrote and thought about it, that you may be right. You are.
Btw Din Merican has a pix of umno implant Saiful on his blog and this is what he wrote today:
“This is the accuser, Saiful Bukhari (picture in red neckie). My colleagues and I knew that he was planted by the other side. So we kept him under surveillance since the day he turned up in our office just before the March 2008 elections. It was a matter of time and we would have exposed him as someone with links to the office of the Deputy Prime Minister. He knew that the noose was tightening around his neck.
There was no security breach because he was not directly involved in the strategic activities of Parti KeADILan Rakyat. He was merely a coffee boy or a butler type.—Din Merican “
June 29th, 2008 at 12: 51.05
First - Anwar
Second - RPK
Third - Operation Lalang
Need to get ready for more
June 29th, 2008 at 12: 52.11
Din Merican’s blog:
http://dinmerican.wordpress.com
June 29th, 2008 at 12: 52.18
So how does that 35 year-old (sorry, now 45 years old) virgin fit into all this? How will she make her appearance again?
June 29th, 2008 at 12: 52.52
http://www.weebly.com/uploads/7/4/5/0/745037/4728017.jpg
June 29th, 2008 at 12: 53.18
“I suggest you all under People’s Party ……insist..Anwar to be like Lee Kuan Yew…sue and prove he is totally innocent and value his reputation…thus protecting the clean opposition image.” - Monsterball
Monsterball, I think that you’re out of whack this time.
This is Malaysia, not Singapore where everything is squeaky clean.
With the loaded dice against you, what chances have you got?
Your chances of winning in Genting is far better!
June 29th, 2008 at 13: 00.17
Good Luck to Malaysia!
June 29th, 2008 at 13: 01.56
10 years ago not many people knew of the INTER-NET.
10 years ago judges could be easyly bought.
10 years ago most people my age did not care about politics.
10 years ago 70% chiness believed what the goverment said,was all truth and nothing but the truth
10 years ago 80% of Indians believed what the goverment and Samy Vellu said was the truth and nothing but the truth.
10 years ago there was no HINDRAF.
10 years ago opposition was weak.
NOW 2008 WE MUST ALL ASK SHOW US HARD EVIDENCE .NOT HALF BAKED EVIDENCE .MOST OF ALL NOT JUST “HEAR SAY”PROVE AND MORE PROVE.
June 29th, 2008 at 13: 04.04
The ancient rulers of China consulted the “Yi Jing” for wisdom in dealing with difficult situations. Technology affords easy access to this ancient wisdom. For those interested particularly leaders of Pakatan Rakyat… this is what a quick consultation with this ancient method of divination reveals:
The PRESENT (Hexagram 36) is represented by the hexagram Ming Yi or brightness hidden:
The hexagram depicts the sun setting under the earth and darkness descending. It symbolises that disorder and chaos will prevail and all the evils associated with darkness have become rampant. In such a distorted and confused state, a wise man will quickly adapt to the changes, lie low or even feign weakness, becoming receptive, abating, and reducing his involvement in order not to attract the attention of the wicked. He may even go into exile or live in seclusion to avert danger. In this way, he lives a simple life and keeps himself healthy and fit. Saving his energy and remaining in his calmness, he reaffirms his goal and waits for the turn of his fate…
What’s in the future…? It lies in Hexagram 26: Da Chu or Great Accumulation
Be guided by wisdom….
June 29th, 2008 at 13: 07.25
I have reservation on RPK SD likewise I have the same opinion on the allegation on Anwar.
The government is not that dump, knowing very well Anwar aims and intentions, must already have intelligences monitoring his activities long time ago. Hence they would have all the evidence in picture or video form of Anwar’s wrong doing. What the government have to do is just release the picture or video and Anwar will automatically plummet. No need any police report, this only tell me that they do not have such bona fide proof, just another spin
I also do not believe that Anwar is that stupid to involve such in activities knowing very well that people have been watching him closely regarding such matter.
This tit of tat is not surprising, but the actions of both party are irresponsible. I pray for Royal intervention before it get worst.
Cheers
June 29th, 2008 at 13: 09.08
Ok so according to Din Merican/RPK’s blog, Saiful Bukhari planted with links to DPM office, so if its all fabrication, easy to rebut (given present climate of public opinion), why the need to lodge police report against other parties - examples IGP & AG - (knowing nothing its ‘pissing’ in the wind) over a dossier, onbly now disclosed to have existed and in his possesion but not before? What’s the rationale & strategy? Explain.
June 29th, 2008 at 13: 09.23
The following police report was made on 28 June 2008 at 5.45 PM by Mohd Saiful Bukhari bin Azlan, who turns 23 next week (i/c no 850706-01-5687):
“Saya Mohd Saiful Bukhari b Azlan ingin melaporkan bahawa saya telah diliwat oleh majikan saya. Perkara ini berlaku tanpa kerelaan saya. Kejadian terakhir berlaku 26/6/08 di Unit 1151, Kondominium Desa Damansara, Jln Setia Kasih, KL. Oleh itu, tujuan laporan ini dibuat untuk mendapat pembelaan dan keadilan keatas diri saya. Saya juga berasa bimbang dengan keselamatan diri dan keluarga saya jika perkara ini tersebar luas di khalayak ramai. Majikan saya Dato Seri Anwar Ibrahim - Ketua Umum PKR.”
Quoted from :http://rockybru.blogspot.com/
June 29th, 2008 at 13: 12.10
My guess is that some Bn seat is about to fall vacant, and they dont want DSAI contesting and winning it. So they came up with this charge, as a means to avoid losing to him in a by-election. They want to keep him out of parliament.
June 29th, 2008 at 13: 12.18
The renewal of sodomy charges against Anwar may be BN’s fatal mistake. The accuser was reportedly detained by the police for 2 days before coming out with his allegation. It looks like a repeat of 1998 just as Anwar is on the cusp of gaining political power.
However, the standard of proof required now must be very high. It cannot be based on the “confession” of one dubious accuser (who was not even medically examined) and forced out of 2 others by torture. The judge can be as biased as he wants, it does not matter. Malaysians will not be fooled.
To repeat the chicanery of 1998 would be a monumental error. The anger and revulsion will force this govt. from office. The people are braver now, the opposition is stronger, the govt. is weaker and the alternative media is fully developed. Even the mainstream media is less slavish. This may be BN’s last stand.
June 29th, 2008 at 13: 13.54
They must have thought that DSAI are as naive as he use to be. He is consider a hero and battle-scarred veteran now. Bring it on BN/Umno !!
June 29th, 2008 at 13: 14.35
Believe it or not, this latest episode from the BN script of attacking Anwar is the last straw for BN, the final nail in the coffin, spells doom for them.
The people get more furious, eyebrows raised in parts of the world. BN MPs with conscience and empathy who are undecided can start making ‘right’ decisions.
Right thinking people want to forget the black era of judiciary when droll antics of mattresses being carried into a court which was labelled after an iconic hopping animal in Australia, fabrications, flip-flop dates which were supposed to be incriminating, etc. Now this new script with an old story from BN surfaces like the fabled raising of the Titanic. It caused quite a stir but let’s see who gets shaken most.
June 29th, 2008 at 13: 18.01
To Jeffrey and Undergrad2,
I’m not a lawyer, but it seems to me that Undergrad2 is right that two different alleged cases of sodomy do not constitute the same offence.
It seems to me that we have to distinguish between ‘continuity within a single event’ and ‘continuity between different events’. Jeffery is of course right when he says that there are some continuities between the two different alleged cases (events) of sodomy that involve different victims, times and circumstances: a similar political motivation (i.e. the same trick), a similar circumstance under which the trick is played (’under duress’) etc. But I think this is a continuity between different cases (or different transactions of offence) rather than a contuinity within the same offence. No doubt Anwar appeals to such continuities in his media statement when he uses phrases like ‘repeat of the 1998′. But that does not mean that Anwar and his defence team are appealing to ‘double jeopardy’. They could be appealing to the same (or very similar) motivation to make false accusation and fabricate evidence in two different alleged cases of sodomy. Rather than revealing an intention to raise an issue about ‘double jeopardy’, it seems quite obvioust to me that appealing to the 1998 case is merely to lend credence to the claim that the current accusation is false, since Anwar has been acquitted of the former allegation when his conviction was overturned in 2004.
June 29th, 2008 at 13: 21.17
This is only my 2nd time ever posting a comment here.
enough of this talk. Why isn’t PR organizing some mass rally in the streets to show our people power?
Guys - at times like these - all your so called intellectual talk and bombastic english is cheap. Have some gumption - aka BALLS. Go out there and rally some real support for Anuar. Don’t just type some angst filled words from the comfort of your own home. Frankly, i think anyone that just complains via words are just a bunch of cowards.
June 29th, 2008 at 13: 23.12
Quote: “Saya Mohd Saiful Bukhari b Azlan ingin melaporkan bahawa saya telah diliwat oleh majikan saya. Perkara ini berlaku tanpa kerelaan saya. Kejadian terakhir berlaku 26/6/08 di Unit 1151, Kondominium Desa Damansara, Jln Setia Kasih, KL….”
The accuser does not have a time where the incident was alleged to have happen. What kind of sloppy report is this? How is the accused going to prepare his defense of alibi?
We must remember that in 1998, the AG changed the date the act was alleged to have been committed twice. For the first date, the condominium where the act was alleged to have been committed was not even built yet!
Malaysians will not put up with more blatant deceit and chicanery as if we are all fools and idiots. How this investigation and trial is conducted will be the paramount because it is the BN govt . which is on trial as much as Anwar. A repeat of the circus of 1998 will make Malaysia ungovernable.
June 29th, 2008 at 13: 30.58
To KennyGan
‘Alleged sodomy was ‘in a Damansara condo’
Jun 29, 08 1:01pm
breaking news The sodomy allegedly committed by de facto PKR leader Anwar Ibrahim took place “in a condo in the Damansara area”, according to the police report filed by his 23-year-old aide yesterday.MORE’
Of course, I’m inclined to think that all this is fabrication. But if they can make a false accusation, it’s not difficult for them to fabricate the relevant details.
June 29th, 2008 at 13: 32.10
What is the problem? Saiful can have his butt investigated and see who did it for him (must be done by one of the BN politicians)
June 29th, 2008 at 13: 40.07
Tell that impotent Government of Badawi that the age of impunity is OVER! They will not succeed nor get away with such tactics.
DSAI - we support you!
June 29th, 2008 at 13: 40.46
Hmm ,,,CNN & Al Jazeera has pick this
up in their headlines, now the whole world can look at this 23yr old butt,,
June 29th, 2008 at 13: 48.07
Jeffrey has a question as to why Anwar has not yet released his evidence against the IGP and AG. However, he might just have obtained the evidence recently and was about to release it before this report was lodged.
June 29th, 2008 at 14: 02.55
Who should be the next PM ?
Express yourself at votingmalaysia.blogspot.com
June 29th, 2008 at 14: 22.15
The old fox must be smiling now
I think Abdullah learned from the old fox
He also learned from the old fox about ISA
June 29th, 2008 at 14: 26.23
They can fabricate anything. They can buy almost anybody. They must have been trying to nail their political opponents since March 8. Last bastion of hope is the judiciary, but given the Lingamgate issue, who can trust the judiciary ? Will they ask Augustine Paul to hear this case ? This is a government with a third world mentality.
June 29th, 2008 at 14: 26.26
Will Yong Tek Li now lodge a report that he was also so-so-ed by AI in Hong Kong earlier this year? This Sabahan jackal can also be bought over, provided the price is right
June 29th, 2008 at 14: 38.30
Lets stay calm and act wisely without heavy emotions. The govt may just be waiting for civilian outbreak so that they can take control of the whole situation and this may mean all the PR states.
The public is well informed nowadays and smart Mamalk the crook TDM is out of the picture this time, there will justice done.
Funny; how the real accused gets away. Not that easy for you now
June 29th, 2008 at 14: 49.11
i have NO faith in our Police Force…it’s pity..
June 29th, 2008 at 15: 12.08
This BN govt habis moda la. Same case. Looks like less people are buying into this allegations unlike 1998. BN is stupid to take this action.
and may i congratulate the police for such speedy work. if only they can do this with other police reports. :p
now who is going to carry the mattress? sure get promotion le!!! He2. will we hear Not relevant again in the court room.
The BN govt, police, judiciary and the AG have very little credibility in the eyes of many Malaysians and either way they are going to get whacked by this. Anwar will come out of this winning.
June 29th, 2008 at 15: 12.34
There is a cobra and a BN politician, which one do you eliminate first?
June 29th, 2008 at 15: 13.39
Bodowi said that it is common for an accused to
claim he is innocent.
Why did he gave a different answer when asked on RPK’s SD regarding Rosmah? Why did he said that they are innocent & NOT it is common for them to claim innocent?
June 29th, 2008 at 15: 13.49
Exciting time again, boys and girls.
Soon, our mass media and courts will again be filled with terms and lucid diagrams that elucidate various human sexual practices (sodomy, anal intercourse, anal sex, buggery, oral sex, blow job, fellatio, cunninglingus, etc.) – kind of revision to those who heard and read about them 10 years ago. Explicit sex education, another great project on offer to the world by the BN government.
Interesting to know that sodomy is such a powerful political weapon in Malaysia.
Wonder if Saiful Bukhari’s damaged @sshole will be submitted as state evidence. Will Saiful Bukhari’s rectum be examined to see if its inner surface has markings (ridges and grooves) that fit the ridges and grooves of the accused person’s dick? (Just like in forensic ballistics: the ridges and grooves engraved on the surface of a fired bullet case match those in a gun barrel from which the bullet exited.)
Will this be the watershed in Saiful Bukhari’s young life? Will he eventually become a pilot (his dream job) or CEO of a GLC?
Strange things happen and wild dreams fulfilled in Malaysia.
June 29th, 2008 at 15: 20.08
First of all I would like to tell everyone that I’m not a DSAI supporter but I really pity this poor guy. I think the chances he going to be jailed is very high as Malaysia BN government do have a special law to deal with Opposition. I just wondering is anyone out there believe DSAI really did it. Not for me because he is getting so much suport and the odd is all on his hand. DO you think he will do such a think even if he is really gay to jeopardize his chance to become a Prime Minister. NO WAY
June 29th, 2008 at 15: 21.12
Why such abnormal and weird incident could occur just in seconds? If to say that the aide of AI is compelled to lodge the complaint under duress, why no one could validate to know the fact?
It may somehow true???
June 29th, 2008 at 15: 28.25
KJ is the most suspicious mastermind behind this conspiracy. He has been attacking Anwar in Parliament day in, day out. The Sleepyhead is too dumb for this.
I believe this is the last resort to kill Anwar’s political career.
June 29th, 2008 at 15: 31.41
How come a 23 yo young man cannot fight off, a 60 yo man, if he do not wish to be sodomized by the 60 yo ? or was the 23 yo under influence of some drug or drunk? Strange?
June 29th, 2008 at 15: 31.51
http://riwayathayat.blogspot.com/2008/02/selamat-maju-jaya-saiful.html
“Untuk pengetahuan semua, keputusan peperiksaan saya amat teruk semasa saya berada didalam MPP. Sem 1 06/07 GPA 1.0, Sem 2 GPA 0.8 dan CGPA saya sekarang 1.69.
Secara logiknya, untuk saya menaikkan CGPA saya dan menamatkan pengajian ia akan memakan masa selama 5 semester = 2 1/2 tahun lagi. Jadi bagi saya, ia tidak berbaloi.
Semenjak dari kecil cita-cita saya bukan seperti yang saudara-saudari sangkakan iaitu menjadi seorang ahli Politik. Tetapi cita-cita saya adalah untuk menjadi seorang PILOT(Juruterbang). Saya mengambil bidang ini pon kerana pada ketika itu Allahyarhamah ibu saya sakit tenat, beliau sudah menyimpan wang untuk saya mencapai cita-cita saya tetapi pada ketika itu wang itu terpaksa digunakan untuk menanggung kos perubatan.
….. saya akan cuba sedaya upaya juga untuk menjadi seorang juruterbang.”
Maybe now Saiful Bukhari Azlan can not only be a pilot but the next space tourist.
June 29th, 2008 at 15: 33.33
Maybe now Saiful Bukhari Azlan can not only be a pilot but also the next space tourist.
June 29th, 2008 at 15: 36.28
Guys things are moving fast:
“Wan Azizah was visibly agitated over the allegations and death threat, the second time it has happened, to her husband.
“This is a second political conspiracy…and attempted murder,” she announced.
She then proclaimed that she had a picture that implicated the alleged assassination to a very level in government.
She whipped out her Blackberry mobile phone and showed a picture of a young man, said to be the person who lodged the sodomy report against Anwar, standing next to another young man outside what appears to be the office of a senior member of the Abdullah administration. ”
quoted from malaysian insider
now “PKR vice-president Azmin Ali says Anwar at Turkish embassy. Anwar’s wife Wan Azizah will visit him there at 4pm.”
What’s happening anyone??
June 29th, 2008 at 15: 41.36
Saiful Bukhari Azlan (left in blue shirt) and Khairil Annas Jusoh (right) work for Deputy Prime Minister Najib Tun Razak. http://www.malaysia-today.net/2008/content/view/9361/84/
June 29th, 2008 at 15: 44.40
God help Malaysia & Malaysians because we have Satan & his minions running our beloved country!
June 29th, 2008 at 15: 47.47
How low can they go?
Take a cue from Zimbabwe!!!!!
June 29th, 2008 at 15: 49.00
Wouldn’t a simple DNA test prove or disprove the allegation?
June 29th, 2008 at 15: 55.09
Malaysiakini has been slow in reporting new information, and not many news reported. I think they need to work harder.
June 29th, 2008 at 15: 59.59
BN is truly desperate now that Black September is approaching.
This evil scheme to prevent Anwar from challenging BN is a cowardly act of indecency typical of 3rd world politics aka
Barisan National.
We the Rakyat will never ever believe this ‘chicken’ hatch-out 2nd-hand story.
This is also a direct challenge to the Rakyat who want a CHANGE for accountability, transparency, fairness, justice and humanity.
A desperado knows no decency, rule of law, sportmanship nor the Commandments of God.
We the Rakyat therefore must fully support Anwar to the end. There is no better alternatives to a brighter future than to stand up against this devious act of desperation.
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Suspect: This guy Saiful Bahari is a Mole of BN. Keadilan must investigate.
June 29th, 2008 at 16: 09.39
“What’s happening anyone??”- Old dad
If all these allegations are true to assassinate Anwar stealthly sanctioned by the Govenment, then Malaysia is a very dangerous country to live in, including investors and expats, considering Altantuya Sharibuu as an ex-expat.
June 29th, 2008 at 16: 10.31
This is not a government that cares about its people.
A government that cares would have prepared its people well before hand for fuel price hike by small percentages and over a period of time. The sudden 40 increment is the strongest indication that the government is determined to stir up ‘CHAOS’ to destabilize the country so the nation can go under perpetual emergency BN rule.
They have failed in their attempts through race & religion issues, fuel hike also seemed to have failed and had drawn widespread condemnation instead up & down the country.
Now, “sodomy” is the next trick that they hope will create the “HAVOC”.
How disgusting!!!!
June 29th, 2008 at 16: 11.02
40%
June 29th, 2008 at 16: 12.20
I challenge the BN govt to call for a snap election NOW. We’ll see the results that we want!!!
Latest news on thestar website says that Anwar has gone into hiding after receiving death threats. What’s becoming of this country???
June 29th, 2008 at 16: 13.43
I am glad that country like Turkey dares to take the risk in taking care of Anwar. This will involve a diplomatic conflict. Now our country is unable to ensure our safety, and we have to reply on others. Anwar can be out only if BN will lose power.
June 29th, 2008 at 16: 22.33
the C4 connection?
the 23yr old guy has been photographed with one Khairil Annas Jusoh who work in the DPM office. A picture is worth a thousand words,, see it at http://www.malaysia-today.net/2008/content/view/9361/84/
June 29th, 2008 at 16: 24.57
Even if a person is addicted to sodomy, and it is not an offence to commit it outside Malaysia, would persons who have the means to do it outside the country choose to risk the law inside the country? It is clear that the police report was a political ploy. But Malaysia practices rule by law, and a police report is good enough to detain whoever the police chooses to do. Is it not a police state we are in?
June 29th, 2008 at 16: 43.28
Ok so according to Din Merican/RPK’s blog, Saiful Bukhari planted with links to DPM office, so if its all fabrication, easy to rebut (given present climate of public opinion), why the need to lodge police report against other parties - examples IGP & AG - (knowing nothing its ‘pissing’ in the wind) over a dossier, onbly now disclosed to have existed and in his possesion but not before? What’s the rationale & strategy? Explain. — Jeffrey
Even if all right-thinking rakyat believe it’s a fabrication, it is useless because the judiciary, AG’s office, police and ACA are controlled by the executive. Don’t, for even a single moment, be naive enough to think that BN gives a hoot what the public thinks of it. A team of renowned lawyers and people marching in the streets did not prevent Anwar from being sent to jail on the previous occasion.
If Anwar has evidence to defend himself, I would suggest he keep them until the time is right to use them. This is the only way to fight against the entire corrupt establishment.
I think it would be better to be asking Najis about the even more serious C4 allegations because that one involves a DPM and a Mongolian national, and has the potential to strain ties between two countries.
June 29th, 2008 at 16: 52.20
Abdullah seems to know everything at the speed of light. He has answers to all your questions. You can also ask him about the 4-digit and the oil price of tomorrow. Any questions, please. The guy is now almost a prophet
[would a thief tell you that he is a thief? of course, he would deny it at all cost]
PM: Gov’t not involved in sodomy allegation
Jun 29, 08 2:31pm
Abdullah Ahmad Badawi has denied that the government is involved in the explosive allegations that de facto PKR leader Anwar Ibrahim had sodomised an aide.