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	<title>Comments on: PM and DPM - time to have new advisers after another round of savage but avoidable battering to their credibility with delayed denials</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: citizenwatch</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/25/pm-and-dpm-time-to-have-new-advisers-after-another-round-of-savage-but-avoidable-battering-to-their-credibility-with-delayed-denials/#comment-113200</link>
		<dc:creator>citizenwatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 11:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(You mean you can’t trust the machine that they buy, that they calibrate ? You can’t trust the analyst that they hire to read the results ? Hmmmmmm……..Godfather).

Unless if it is an independant team of lie detector analysts, you can't even trust the dogs they hire to sniff out corruption!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(You mean you can’t trust the machine that they buy, that they calibrate ? You can’t trust the analyst that they hire to read the results ? Hmmmmmm……..Godfather).</p>
<p>Unless if it is an independant team of lie detector analysts, you can&#8217;t even trust the dogs they hire to sniff out corruption!</p>
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		<title>By: citizenwatch</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/25/pm-and-dpm-time-to-have-new-advisers-after-another-round-of-savage-but-avoidable-battering-to-their-credibility-with-delayed-denials/#comment-113199</link>
		<dc:creator>citizenwatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 11:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(bystander Says: 

Now they all conspired to go after the messenger RPK rather than the message. whats new. it was expected. we got to help RPK to help himself. HOW?)

By the incessant blogging of opinions and support is already assisting Pete. We can also call on pressure groups to demand more transparency and accountability from the government, police, judiciary, mainstream media and even the military. The pressure groups can be the Bar Council, (another Lawyers' March?) Human Rights bodies, PR of course, a united bloggers community, local and internationally and the informed sympathetic public. Some of these groups may come in later into the picture when things look grim and become expedient for them to come in.

Even later on, Mr Shaariibu may, through the Mongolian government seek international help in getting justice done.

RPK is prepared for this and is waiting to reveal all in his upcoming trial for sedition. He has something up his sleeves and a matter of time before he produces the trump card.

But in the interim everyone is watching what's the next step by those concerned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(bystander Says: </p>
<p>Now they all conspired to go after the messenger RPK rather than the message. whats new. it was expected. we got to help RPK to help himself. HOW?)</p>
<p>By the incessant blogging of opinions and support is already assisting Pete. We can also call on pressure groups to demand more transparency and accountability from the government, police, judiciary, mainstream media and even the military. The pressure groups can be the Bar Council, (another Lawyers&#8217; March?) Human Rights bodies, PR of course, a united bloggers community, local and internationally and the informed sympathetic public. Some of these groups may come in later into the picture when things look grim and become expedient for them to come in.</p>
<p>Even later on, Mr Shaariibu may, through the Mongolian government seek international help in getting justice done.</p>
<p>RPK is prepared for this and is waiting to reveal all in his upcoming trial for sedition. He has something up his sleeves and a matter of time before he produces the trump card.</p>
<p>But in the interim everyone is watching what&#8217;s the next step by those concerned.</p>
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		<title>By: bystander</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/25/pm-and-dpm-time-to-have-new-advisers-after-another-round-of-savage-but-avoidable-battering-to-their-credibility-with-delayed-denials/#comment-113148</link>
		<dc:creator>bystander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 04:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now they all conspired to go after the messenger RPK rather than the message. whats new. it was expected. we got to help RPK to help himself. HOW?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now they all conspired to go after the messenger RPK rather than the message. whats new. it was expected. we got to help RPK to help himself. HOW?</p>
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		<title>By: Godfather</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/25/pm-and-dpm-time-to-have-new-advisers-after-another-round-of-savage-but-avoidable-battering-to-their-credibility-with-delayed-denials/#comment-113131</link>
		<dc:creator>Godfather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 02:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lt Kol Aziz Buyong has, through his lawyers, demanded a retraction of RPK's declaration.  This has just confirmed the existence of the C4 expert, and most probably, that of his wife Norhayati.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lt Kol Aziz Buyong has, through his lawyers, demanded a retraction of RPK&#8217;s declaration.  This has just confirmed the existence of the C4 expert, and most probably, that of his wife Norhayati.</p>
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		<title>By: Godfather</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/25/pm-and-dpm-time-to-have-new-advisers-after-another-round-of-savage-but-avoidable-battering-to-their-credibility-with-delayed-denials/#comment-113130</link>
		<dc:creator>Godfather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 02:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"There have been demands for lie detectors to be used on those named in RPK’s SD. Even if lie detectors being used, are we assured of the veracity of the outcome of the reports?" Citizenwatch


You mean you can't trust the machine that they buy, that they calibrate ?  You can't trust the analyst that they hire to read the results ?  Hmmmmmm........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There have been demands for lie detectors to be used on those named in RPK’s SD. Even if lie detectors being used, are we assured of the veracity of the outcome of the reports?&#8221; Citizenwatch</p>
<p>You mean you can&#8217;t trust the machine that they buy, that they calibrate ?  You can&#8217;t trust the analyst that they hire to read the results ?  Hmmmmmm&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: ahpiow</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/25/pm-and-dpm-time-to-have-new-advisers-after-another-round-of-savage-but-avoidable-battering-to-their-credibility-with-delayed-denials/#comment-113082</link>
		<dc:creator>ahpiow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RPK's SD cannot technically be categorised as "allegations" any longer as it is a legal declaration signed and witnessed by a commisioner of oath.  In view of this the "accused" parties, if they are innocent, shud immediately have issued statements that they they will sue RPK for defamation.

They have only made statements that the SD is false, not true and of defamatory nature, but no definite statement to sue? Such a damaging issue and no "I will sue" statement?

Odd situation! Let's see what develops further, bound to be very interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RPK&#8217;s SD cannot technically be categorised as &#8220;allegations&#8221; any longer as it is a legal declaration signed and witnessed by a commisioner of oath.  In view of this the &#8220;accused&#8221; parties, if they are innocent, shud immediately have issued statements that they they will sue RPK for defamation.</p>
<p>They have only made statements that the SD is false, not true and of defamatory nature, but no definite statement to sue? Such a damaging issue and no &#8220;I will sue&#8221; statement?</p>
<p>Odd situation! Let&#8217;s see what develops further, bound to be very interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: citizenwatch</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/25/pm-and-dpm-time-to-have-new-advisers-after-another-round-of-savage-but-avoidable-battering-to-their-credibility-with-delayed-denials/#comment-112987</link>
		<dc:creator>citizenwatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 07:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There have been demands for lie detectors to be used on those named in RPK's SD. Even if lie detectors being used, are we assured of the veracity of the outcome of the reports?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There have been demands for lie detectors to be used on those named in RPK&#8217;s SD. Even if lie detectors being used, are we assured of the veracity of the outcome of the reports?</p>
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		<title>By: citizenwatch</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/25/pm-and-dpm-time-to-have-new-advisers-after-another-round-of-savage-but-avoidable-battering-to-their-credibility-with-delayed-denials/#comment-112984</link>
		<dc:creator>citizenwatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 07:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way BN and especially the PM and DPM go about with their daily routines despite RPK's SD, among other things, as though nothing happened, is probably pointing to a bigger major plan by these heartless UMNO politicians. The 9MP Mid-Term Review is a subterfuge to buy time and also with the hope to convince the rakyat current economic woes are a result of global problems and will dilute whatever mismanagement and corruption by the government. 

Despite their flip-flop ways, they are planning something which we have to be cautious about. They can either have the strategy of cut and run or continue with ruling, 'business as usual' with protracted strategy of misinformation through MSM until the next GE. Meanwhile, someting is up their sleeve while we underestimate them.We can't let our guard down and get caught unaware.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way BN and especially the PM and DPM go about with their daily routines despite RPK&#8217;s SD, among other things, as though nothing happened, is probably pointing to a bigger major plan by these heartless UMNO politicians. The 9MP Mid-Term Review is a subterfuge to buy time and also with the hope to convince the rakyat current economic woes are a result of global problems and will dilute whatever mismanagement and corruption by the government. </p>
<p>Despite their flip-flop ways, they are planning something which we have to be cautious about. They can either have the strategy of cut and run or continue with ruling, &#8216;business as usual&#8217; with protracted strategy of misinformation through MSM until the next GE. Meanwhile, someting is up their sleeve while we underestimate them.We can&#8217;t let our guard down and get caught unaware.</p>
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		<title>By: patriotic1994</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/25/pm-and-dpm-time-to-have-new-advisers-after-another-round-of-savage-but-avoidable-battering-to-their-credibility-with-delayed-denials/#comment-112972</link>
		<dc:creator>patriotic1994</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 05:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is important. RPK used Statutory Declaration to make his statement. Our PM and DPM only talk in the press. Can they also use Statutory Declaration to deny what RPK said?

Too often we see PM said one thing in the press and subsequently flip-flop it. So talk/press is easy for them. Can't truth them at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is important. RPK used Statutory Declaration to make his statement. Our PM and DPM only talk in the press. Can they also use Statutory Declaration to deny what RPK said?</p>
<p>Too often we see PM said one thing in the press and subsequently flip-flop it. So talk/press is easy for them. Can&#8217;t truth them at all.</p>
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