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	<title>Comments on: Emergency debate in Parliament on Raja Petra’s allegations on Altantuya murder</title>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
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		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“If it’s true, we will act accordingly. If not, the writer will be investigated,” AG said.

One would have thought comments like these would be left to the IGP to make rather than by the AG.

RPK expects to be &quot;investigated&quot; if by that it means he would be asked to reveal his sources.  I suppose he&#039;ll do that during his trial if and when charged with criminal defamation. Forget civil defamation because no one is going to sue him for that - and guess why not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“If it’s true, we will act accordingly. If not, the writer will be investigated,” AG said.</p>
<p>One would have thought comments like these would be left to the IGP to make rather than by the AG.</p>
<p>RPK expects to be &#8220;investigated&#8221; if by that it means he would be asked to reveal his sources.  I suppose he&#8217;ll do that during his trial if and when charged with criminal defamation. Forget civil defamation because no one is going to sue him for that &#8211; and guess why not?</p>
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		<title>By: citizenwatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>citizenwatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With a rating of 0 to 10, 10 is the highest in credibility, what is PM’s credibility? 

Answer: pinocchi-’0?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With a rating of 0 to 10, 10 is the highest in credibility, what is PM’s credibility? </p>
<p>Answer: pinocchi-’0?</p>
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		<title>By: milduser</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/23/emergency-debate-in-parliament-on-raja-petra%e2%80%99s-allegations-on/comment-page-4/#comment-112684</link>
		<dc:creator>milduser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The report is likely marked &quot;Top Secret&quot;. There u are: protected by law. Abuse by the Leaders to cover up their excesses. U can&#039;t fight them. They have their mechanism in place. Maybe, it takes someone like RPK to stand up to them. Support needed, Please apply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The report is likely marked &#8220;Top Secret&#8221;. There u are: protected by law. Abuse by the Leaders to cover up their excesses. U can&#8217;t fight them. They have their mechanism in place. Maybe, it takes someone like RPK to stand up to them. Support needed, Please apply.</p>
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		<title>By: oknyua</title>
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		<dc:creator>oknyua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 02:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still maintain the one who provided RPK with the info on his SD is someone close to one of the accused. RPK is no fool. He explained legal intricacies better than many law graduates (no offence to lawyers here).  

Look at the response of PM Abdullah. Do we have to be hair-splitting lawyers to know that it created more questions than answers? Forget the fact that Abdullah is a serial liar - an established fact - his answer added more suspicion to the already suspicious case. Don&#039;t tell me he never receive report on how the C4 got out of the military? Don&#039;t tell me he never receive report on how the immigraion record could be deleted? Come on, we are not in standard one.  

Of course any matter raised by opposition would not pass through the speaker. This is an established fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still maintain the one who provided RPK with the info on his SD is someone close to one of the accused. RPK is no fool. He explained legal intricacies better than many law graduates (no offence to lawyers here).  </p>
<p>Look at the response of PM Abdullah. Do we have to be hair-splitting lawyers to know that it created more questions than answers? Forget the fact that Abdullah is a serial liar &#8211; an established fact &#8211; his answer added more suspicion to the already suspicious case. Don&#8217;t tell me he never receive report on how the C4 got out of the military? Don&#8217;t tell me he never receive report on how the immigraion record could be deleted? Come on, we are not in standard one.  </p>
<p>Of course any matter raised by opposition would not pass through the speaker. This is an established fact.</p>
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		<title>By: boh-liao</title>
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		<dc:creator>boh-liao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 02:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Malaysia&#039;s brand of justice: the Attorney-General goes after the messenger rather than investigates the truth of the matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Malaysia&#8217;s brand of justice: the Attorney-General goes after the messenger rather than investigates the truth of the matter.</p>
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		<title>By: milduser</title>
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		<dc:creator>milduser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 02:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the no. 1 man in the government has denied, in The Star (25June08)
  “Of course I am concerned (over the allegation by Malaysia Today blogger Raja Petra Kamarudin). What Raja Petra did is unacceptable ... because what he stated is incorrect.

“It is stated (in Raja Petra’s statutory declaration) that I received a report from the military intelligence. That is not correct,”

Five more to go. Hope justice, integrity (honesty) and pure conscience prevail. These are the virtues taught to us. God bless us all. God bless this country. Hope it is not run by corroupt, debase, selfserving, dishonest, wicked, greedy people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the no. 1 man in the government has denied, in The Star (25June08)<br />
  “Of course I am concerned (over the allegation by Malaysia Today blogger Raja Petra Kamarudin). What Raja Petra did is unacceptable &#8230; because what he stated is incorrect.</p>
<p>“It is stated (in Raja Petra’s statutory declaration) that I received a report from the military intelligence. That is not correct,”</p>
<p>Five more to go. Hope justice, integrity (honesty) and pure conscience prevail. These are the virtues taught to us. God bless us all. God bless this country. Hope it is not run by corroupt, debase, selfserving, dishonest, wicked, greedy people.</p>
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		<title>By: bystander</title>
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		<dc:creator>bystander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 01:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AG &amp; Pm already jumping to conclusion before investigation. he also denied receiving report. is he covering up for Najis to save his own skin? is covering up for Najis more important than justice for Altantula?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AG &amp; Pm already jumping to conclusion before investigation. he also denied receiving report. is he covering up for Najis to save his own skin? is covering up for Najis more important than justice for Altantula?</p>
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		<title>By: Hot potatoes &#124; Suthan M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hot potatoes &#124; Suthan M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Kit Siang) has submitted a notice to adjourn the House under Standing Order 18 (1) and to call for an emergency motion to discuss Malaysia Today editor Raja Petra Kamarudin’s allegations that Deputy Prime Minister [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Kit Siang) has submitted a notice to adjourn the House under Standing Order 18 (1) and to call for an emergency motion to discuss Malaysia Today editor Raja Petra Kamarudin’s allegations that Deputy Prime Minister [...]</p>
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		<title>By: passerby</title>
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		<dc:creator>passerby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 19:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever it is, my sympathy goes to Dr Shaariibuu.  You will never going to get the truth and the answer to your daughter&#039;s death from these bunch of crooks unless something very strong like capturing all these happenings in video with some very important people as witness.  Otherwise these crooks will twist and turn and eventually turn the whole investigation into a joke.  The only way you can get any justice if you can demand for an outside law enforcement to investigate.  Good luck and our heartfelt sympathy to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever it is, my sympathy goes to Dr Shaariibuu.  You will never going to get the truth and the answer to your daughter&#8217;s death from these bunch of crooks unless something very strong like capturing all these happenings in video with some very important people as witness.  Otherwise these crooks will twist and turn and eventually turn the whole investigation into a joke.  The only way you can get any justice if you can demand for an outside law enforcement to investigate.  Good luck and our heartfelt sympathy to you.</p>
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		<title>By: One4All4One</title>
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		<dc:creator>One4All4One</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She didn&#039;t rest in peace, did she?

Something must be done to apease her soul.

Some prayers, perhaps?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She didn&#8217;t rest in peace, did she?</p>
<p>Something must be done to apease her soul.</p>
<p>Some prayers, perhaps?</p>
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		<title>By: One4All4One</title>
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		<dc:creator>One4All4One</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Altantuya&#039;s back ahaunting!

So, beware!

Be very afraid!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Altantuya&#8217;s back ahaunting!</p>
<p>So, beware!</p>
<p>Be very afraid!</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
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		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Godfather,



Once the jury is empanelled, and the jurors sworn in they are not allowed to have contact with the public and the media. They are sequestered. Not allowed to read papers or see TV. Nor are they allowed to discuss the case with anybody else except among themselves. If a juror were to break the rules and have some form of contact with the media, then he or she is dismissed from the jury. There are alternate jurors ready to take his or her place.


It would be easier to bribe a judge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Godfather,</p>
<p>Once the jury is empanelled, and the jurors sworn in they are not allowed to have contact with the public and the media. They are sequestered. Not allowed to read papers or see TV. Nor are they allowed to discuss the case with anybody else except among themselves. If a juror were to break the rules and have some form of contact with the media, then he or she is dismissed from the jury. There are alternate jurors ready to take his or her place.</p>
<p>It would be easier to bribe a judge.</p>
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		<title>By: dawsheng</title>
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		<dc:creator>dawsheng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Raja Petra&#039;s actions are unacceptable. It is not right,&quot; Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi told reporters Tuesday. &quot;I don&#039;t believe that Najib and Rosmah are involved.&quot;

Of course, I also don&#039;t believe it. Where else in the history of Malaysia the wife of deputy prime minister are involved in murder and then blowing up the corpses to destroy evident?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Raja Petra&#8217;s actions are unacceptable. It is not right,&#8221; Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi told reporters Tuesday. &#8220;I don&#8217;t believe that Najib and Rosmah are involved.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course, I also don&#8217;t believe it. Where else in the history of Malaysia the wife of deputy prime minister are involved in murder and then blowing up the corpses to destroy evident?</p>
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		<title>By: Jong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice game of poker so far!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice game of poker so far!</p>
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		<title>By: Godfather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Godfather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It should be much easier to influence a judge than to influence 12 jurors.  A lot cheaper too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It should be much easier to influence a judge than to influence 12 jurors.  A lot cheaper too.</p>
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		<title>By: Godfather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Godfather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I don&#039;t believe...&quot; were the exact words Badawi used.  Regarding the existence of a military intelligence report, Badawi was reported to have said &quot;I don&#039;t remember receiving anything&quot;, &quot;Nothing was sent to me&quot;, &quot;I am confident I did not receive anything&quot;.

Over to you, RPK....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t believe&#8230;&#8221; were the exact words Badawi used.  Regarding the existence of a military intelligence report, Badawi was reported to have said &#8220;I don&#8217;t remember receiving anything&#8221;, &#8220;Nothing was sent to me&#8221;, &#8220;I am confident I did not receive anything&#8221;.</p>
<p>Over to you, RPK&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
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		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is the blog&#039;s rock star this morning?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is the blog&#8217;s rock star this morning?</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
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		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More about jurors.

Jurors are ordinary folks and do not include people working in law enforcement like the police or lawyers. Their names are selected at random from the electoral list and these potential jurors are made to go through a process in court participated by lawyers on both sides until both agree on who the twelve jurors are.

Don&#039;t you think we should be tried by a jury of our own peers (since crimes are committed against the community) instead of a judge (a legally trained expert)  sitting alone and imposing his views on us?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More about jurors.</p>
<p>Jurors are ordinary folks and do not include people working in law enforcement like the police or lawyers. Their names are selected at random from the electoral list and these potential jurors are made to go through a process in court participated by lawyers on both sides until both agree on who the twelve jurors are.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you think we should be tried by a jury of our own peers (since crimes are committed against the community) instead of a judge (a legally trained expert)  sitting alone and imposing his views on us?</p>
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		<title>By: Godfather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Godfather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have been away far too long.  In Bolehland, the &quot;right&quot; person&#039;s beliefs dictate the dance of the relevant parties like the AG, the Police, the ACA.

Rosemary has many friends who believe in her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have been away far too long.  In Bolehland, the &#8220;right&#8221; person&#8217;s beliefs dictate the dance of the relevant parties like the AG, the Police, the ACA.</p>
<p>Rosemary has many friends who believe in her.</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
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		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Godfather Says: 

Today at 21: 04.42 (1 hour ago) 
In any case, Badawi has earlier this evening said that he doesn’t believe that Najis and Rosemary were involved in Altantuya’s killing...&quot;

Since when has anybody&#039;s belief (read: opinion) been relevant in a murder??</description>
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<p>Today at 21: 04.42 (1 hour ago)<br />
In any case, Badawi has earlier this evening said that he doesn’t believe that Najis and Rosemary were involved in Altantuya’s killing&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Since when has anybody&#8217;s belief (read: opinion) been relevant in a murder??</p>
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