Comments on: “First-world infrastructure, first-world mentality”? http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/22/first-world-infrastructure-first-world-mentality/ for Malaysia Sun, 12 Feb 2012 06:45:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: bdason http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/22/first-world-infrastructure-first-world-mentality/comment-page-2/#comment-113497 bdason Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:48:07 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/22/first-world-infrastructure-first-world-mentality/#comment-113497 What a shame....if you were from UMNO I am sure they will even throw a kenduri for you.....but alas you were not. You should go as this is a private function. There is no need for you to feel ashamed to have stood up for the opposition. What a shame….if you were from UMNO I am sure they will even throw a kenduri for you…..but alas you were not. You should go as this is a private function. There is no need for you to feel ashamed to have stood up for the opposition.

]]> By: mysn1st http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/22/first-world-infrastructure-first-world-mentality/comment-page-2/#comment-112621 mysn1st Wed, 25 Jun 2008 04:46:20 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/22/first-world-infrastructure-first-world-mentality/#comment-112621 Another obvious discrimination which could be easily prove in our government system. I wish YB Lim and YB Hannah would ensure yours will take this as a first priority matter need to be resolve when your party role. Another obvious discrimination which could be easily prove in our government system.

I wish YB Lim and YB Hannah would ensure yours will take this as a first priority matter need to be resolve when your party role.

]]> By: One4All4One http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/22/first-world-infrastructure-first-world-mentality/comment-page-2/#comment-112560 One4All4One Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:33:40 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/22/first-world-infrastructure-first-world-mentality/#comment-112560 Please folks, we have to learn to keep our cool. It is precisely when we are 'hot-headed' that we couldn't think right. It would be advisable to refrain from cursing and calling others names which we do not wish others call us. I see lots of cursing in this blog. Well, we may have different ideas from others, but that does not warrant us to curse them. Isn't it our desire to see real democracy? Isn't it our dream to have freedom of expression? It is precisely because of these ideals we fight for our rights. Hence, why should we deny others what we wish for ourselves? Think about it. I am not a supporter of any divide, left or right. Just to chip in to keep our cool and balance. No one gains if there is a 'war'. Just why not debate and get the best out of it? Please folks, we have to learn to keep our cool. It is precisely when we are ‘hot-headed’ that we couldn’t think right.

It would be advisable to refrain from cursing and calling others names which we do not wish others call us.

I see lots of cursing in this blog. Well, we may have different ideas from others, but that does not warrant us to curse them. Isn’t it our desire to see real democracy? Isn’t it our dream to have freedom of expression? It is precisely because of these ideals we fight for our rights. Hence, why should we deny others what we wish for ourselves? Think about it.

I am not a supporter of any divide, left or right. Just to chip in to keep our cool and balance. No one gains if there is a ‘war’. Just why not debate and get the best out of it?

]]> By: One4All4One http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/22/first-world-infrastructure-first-world-mentality/comment-page-2/#comment-112559 One4All4One Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:23:06 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/22/first-world-infrastructure-first-world-mentality/#comment-112559 As I have said before, let good sense prevail. There is no need to be confrontational. No need to be over -emotional. No need to over-react. If one is not welcome, just don't force your way through. No need for that. In this case, I think Hannah's absence from the function would a talking point and also a deafening silence. It would dawn on all of them that something is wrong that Hannah is absent. That the 'order' or 'instruction' to keep her away because of her political belief is all but wrong and misguided. The teachers or whoever gave the orders would have to live with a sense of guilt all his/her life. That he/she had done a great injustice. Hopefully after this unexpected turn of event, good sense would return and Hannah would be invited again into the fold and that the person would regret his/her action and good sense returned to its rightful place. Let the process go through. And let the people learn the lesson. It is through some sort of wrong that some people would learn what is right. Good luck folks! Live and let's live! As I have said before, let good sense prevail.

There is no need to be confrontational. No need to be over -emotional. No need to over-react.

If one is not welcome, just don’t force your way through. No need for that.

In this case, I think Hannah’s absence from the function would a talking point and also a deafening silence. It would dawn on all of them that something is wrong that Hannah is absent. That the ‘order’ or ‘instruction’ to keep her away because of her political belief is all but wrong and misguided.

The teachers or whoever gave the orders would have to live with a sense of guilt all his/her life. That he/she had done a great injustice.

Hopefully after this unexpected turn of event, good sense would return and Hannah would be invited again into the fold and that the person would regret his/her action and good sense returned to its rightful place.

Let the process go through. And let the people learn the lesson. It is through some sort of wrong that some people would learn what is right.

Good luck folks! Live and let’s live!

]]> By: k1980 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/22/first-world-infrastructure-first-world-mentality/comment-page-2/#comment-112435 k1980 Tue, 24 Jun 2008 03:59:24 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/22/first-world-infrastructure-first-world-mentality/#comment-112435 Now that civil servants are encouraged to take 2nd jobs, the fun begins:- http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Tuesday/National/2275798/Article/index_html Now that civil servants are encouraged to take 2nd jobs, the fun begins:-
http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Tuesday/National/2275798/Article/index_html

]]> By: Cinapek http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/22/first-world-infrastructure-first-world-mentality/comment-page-2/#comment-112416 Cinapek Tue, 24 Jun 2008 02:27:31 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/22/first-world-infrastructure-first-world-mentality/#comment-112416 Hannah, this blatantly sick episode is the best opportunity to show up the sad state of affairs in our schools as the place to inculcate good values in our young. You were elected as part of the process to right the wrongs in Malaysia today and you should take this opportunity to do whatever is necessary to ensure such bigots and extremist in our school system are taught a good lesson. Kick up enough fuss all the way to the Minister level and make sure those responsible are either kicked out or at least properly reprimanded. Is it any wonder now why the majority of non Malay parents are reluctant to send their children to Govt schools? Hannah, this blatantly sick episode is the best opportunity to show up the sad state of affairs in our schools as the place to inculcate good values in our young.

You were elected as part of the process to right the wrongs in Malaysia today and you should take this opportunity to do whatever is necessary to ensure such bigots and extremist in our school system are taught a good lesson. Kick up enough fuss all the way to the Minister level and make sure those responsible are either kicked out or at least properly reprimanded. Is it any wonder now why the majority of non Malay parents are reluctant to send their children to Govt schools?

]]> By: taiking http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/22/first-world-infrastructure-first-world-mentality/comment-page-2/#comment-112389 taiking Tue, 24 Jun 2008 00:34:44 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/22/first-world-infrastructure-first-world-mentality/#comment-112389 Obviously the teacher who issued the threat is someone who could not see beyond the tip of his/her nose. I am sure that the teacher is also a coward because when challenged or exposed he/she is likely to act blur, deny issuing the threat, claim misunderstanding or cite some dubious order / directive from above. This is certainly the correct way to rot for BN. So go on and rot man. Quite clearly those idiots could not see that the world has progressed beyond IT. We are now into reality TV shows. Quite clearly they did not realise that the heros in the minds of today's youth are movie stars and sports persons. "Politicians? Well yeah. But Nicole David is my true hero." We must not despair. We shall celebrate this event. Give it a name. Lets call it the Hannah Yeoh Day. Yeh! Obviously the teacher who issued the threat is someone who could not see beyond the tip of his/her nose.

I am sure that the teacher is also a coward because when challenged or exposed he/she is likely to act blur, deny issuing the threat, claim misunderstanding or cite some dubious order / directive from above.

This is certainly the correct way to rot for BN. So go on and rot man.

Quite clearly those idiots could not see that the world has progressed beyond IT. We are now into reality TV shows.

Quite clearly they did not realise that the heros in the minds of today’s youth are movie stars and sports persons. “Politicians? Well yeah. But Nicole David is my true hero.”

We must not despair. We shall celebrate this event.

Give it a name.

Lets call it the Hannah Yeoh Day.

Yeh!

]]> By: choonchoy http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/22/first-world-infrastructure-first-world-mentality/comment-page-2/#comment-112350 choonchoy Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:21:46 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/22/first-world-infrastructure-first-world-mentality/#comment-112350 Those teachers involved should be sacked!!! Those teachers involved should be sacked!!!

]]> By: vincent http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/22/first-world-infrastructure-first-world-mentality/comment-page-2/#comment-112308 vincent Mon, 23 Jun 2008 10:07:36 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/22/first-world-infrastructure-first-world-mentality/#comment-112308 How many of you would stand alongside me for this cause? ----------------------------------------------- Me ! How many of you would stand alongside me for this cause?

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Me !

]]> By: twistedmind http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/22/first-world-infrastructure-first-world-mentality/comment-page-2/#comment-112287 twistedmind Mon, 23 Jun 2008 09:05:05 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/22/first-world-infrastructure-first-world-mentality/#comment-112287 Was it SUBANG JAYA or some backwater kampung in Kedah? These are where educated people reside and they let morons run the school...........and corrupt the minds of their children! When will Malaysians STAND UP!? Was it SUBANG JAYA or some backwater kampung in Kedah?

These are where educated people reside and they let morons run the school………..and corrupt the minds of their children!

When will Malaysians STAND UP!?

]]> By: pkrisnin http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/22/first-world-infrastructure-first-world-mentality/comment-page-2/#comment-112257 pkrisnin Mon, 23 Jun 2008 06:23:47 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/22/first-world-infrastructure-first-world-mentality/#comment-112257 What are the names of these teachers, their name and pictures should be published. What are the names of these teachers, their name and pictures should be published.

]]> By: limkamput http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/22/first-world-infrastructure-first-world-mentality/comment-page-2/#comment-112237 limkamput Mon, 23 Jun 2008 05:25:57 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/22/first-world-infrastructure-first-world-mentality/#comment-112237 K1980 and Kickdefella, Sometimes I feel that there are simply too much of misinformation in the blog. Contrary to what you said, the government does provide budgetary allocation for all subsidies in the national budget every year. All DIRECT subsidies are provided for in the government budget and these include fuel, rice, fertilizer, school textbook, nutrition programmes and others. The direct subsidies in 2007 were about RM12.5 billion as provided for in the federal government’s budget. Please refer to the Treasury Economic Report 2007/08. In addition to direct subsidies, there are “indirect” subsidies provided by Petronas to the energy and industrial sector. Here Petronas was directed to sell the gas at much lower price than the market price. Although these are not direct subsidies paid out of the national budget, it is profit/revenue forgone by Petronas. And since Petronas is wholly owned by the Government, the subsidies provided by Petronas are technically subsidies provided by government. If you want a better insight, please go to this site: limkamput-nincompoop.blogspot.com/2008/06/fuel-prices-and-national-budget.html K1980 and Kickdefella,
Sometimes I feel that there are simply too much of misinformation in the blog. Contrary to what you said, the government does provide budgetary allocation for all subsidies in the national budget every year.

All DIRECT subsidies are provided for in the government budget and these include fuel, rice, fertilizer, school textbook, nutrition programmes and others. The direct subsidies in 2007 were about RM12.5 billion as provided for in the federal government’s budget. Please refer to the Treasury Economic Report 2007/08. In addition to direct subsidies, there are “indirect” subsidies provided by Petronas to the energy and industrial sector. Here Petronas was directed to sell the gas at much lower price than the market price. Although these are not direct subsidies paid out of the national budget, it is profit/revenue forgone by Petronas. And since Petronas is wholly owned by the Government, the subsidies provided by Petronas are technically subsidies provided by government. If you want a better insight, please go to this site:
limkamput-nincompoop.blogspot.com/2008/06/fuel-prices-and-national-budget.html

]]> By: Jong http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/22/first-world-infrastructure-first-world-mentality/comment-page-2/#comment-112232 Jong Mon, 23 Jun 2008 05:18:10 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/22/first-world-infrastructure-first-world-mentality/#comment-112232 If it's a "teacher" under pressure, we want him/her to explain the directive, and under whose pressure. We demand the truth nothing but truth! If it’s a “teacher” under pressure, we want him/her to explain the directive, and under whose pressure. We demand the truth nothing but truth!

]]> By: wizzerd http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/22/first-world-infrastructure-first-world-mentality/comment-page-2/#comment-112226 wizzerd Mon, 23 Jun 2008 05:06:13 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/22/first-world-infrastructure-first-world-mentality/#comment-112226 Bentoh says: I am thankful that I have teachers who told us not to be afraid of “anti-government”… not to be afraid of the police… because that’s our right to anti-government… and that the police is non other than our employees… Bentoh, we are not anti-govt, not even anti -BN, we are just not pro the policies made by BN. Please do not equate supporting the Opposition to anti-govt or unpatriotic. Bentoh says:
I am thankful that I have teachers who told us not to be afraid of “anti-government”… not to be afraid of the police… because that’s our right to anti-government… and that the police is non other than our employees…

Bentoh, we are not anti-govt, not even anti -BN, we are just not pro the policies made by BN.
Please do not equate supporting the Opposition to anti-govt or unpatriotic.

]]> By: Jong http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/22/first-world-infrastructure-first-world-mentality/comment-page-2/#comment-112223 Jong Mon, 23 Jun 2008 04:45:37 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/22/first-world-infrastructure-first-world-mentality/#comment-112223 Cheng On Soo, It does not matter who, however high up that person is, but just expose whoever he/she is. Splash the pix! We want him/her to explain why the directive? Cowards like them must not be allowed the convenience of hiding behind a junior staff member and get away unscathed. Cheng On Soo,

It does not matter who, however high up that person is, but just expose whoever he/she is. Splash the pix!

We want him/her to explain why the directive? Cowards like them must not be allowed the convenience of hiding behind a junior staff member and get away unscathed.

]]> By: greenacre http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/22/first-world-infrastructure-first-world-mentality/comment-page-2/#comment-112221 greenacre Mon, 23 Jun 2008 04:40:50 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/22/first-world-infrastructure-first-world-mentality/#comment-112221 Hello riversandlike! Didn’t PR win in Selangor? Are they actually going against the STATE GOVERNMENT? For your info ...Education comes under the federal government. Hello riversandlike!
Didn’t PR win in Selangor?

Are they actually going against the STATE GOVERNMENT?

For your info …Education comes under the federal government.

]]> By: k1980 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/22/first-world-infrastructure-first-world-mentality/comment-page-2/#comment-112219 k1980 Mon, 23 Jun 2008 04:37:47 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/22/first-world-infrastructure-first-world-mentality/#comment-112219 Interesting topic for debating in schools and of course, parliament: <i>It is true; fuel subsidy was never in the government budget. It is not just that, even the food subsidy was also never in the budget. As a result, it is an expenditure ‘unaccounted for’ or, an expenditure that never being paid by the government. As a result, fuel and (today we knew that) food subsidy too are not something that government had to pay for from either taxpayer money or from any other government income...</i> http://kickdefella.wordpress.com/ Interesting topic for debating in schools and of course, parliament:
It is true; fuel subsidy was never in the government budget. It is not just that, even the food subsidy was also never in the budget. As a result, it is an expenditure ‘unaccounted for’ or, an expenditure that never being paid by the government. As a result, fuel and (today we knew that) food subsidy too are not something that government had to pay for from either taxpayer money or from any other government income…
http://kickdefella.wordpress.com/

]]> By: Damocles http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/22/first-world-infrastructure-first-world-mentality/comment-page-2/#comment-112218 Damocles Mon, 23 Jun 2008 04:36:30 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/22/first-world-infrastructure-first-world-mentality/#comment-112218 Hannah, I'm unequivocally on your side. I must say that for fifty plus years, especially during the last quarter century, the government controlled news media has progressively brain-washed Malaysians. Generations have grown up singing the praises of the BN and it is not surprising that even today there are still those who continue to do so! There is only one way to change all this and that is for the PR to take over the reigns of power. Once this happens, start revamping all the schools and sack all the journalists who had a hand in foisting half-truths or untruths on the people. Lift the OSA and reveal all agreements that had been made by the BN. Take action against those who has been derelict in their duties. Roll back all their policies. In the meantime, you can take whatever action to enlighten those who are involved in this particular incident. The recent electoral tsunami has shown that there are still many right minded people around, so you must not feel disheartened. Hannah, I’m unequivocally on your side.
I must say that for fifty plus years, especially during the last quarter century, the government controlled news media has progressively brain-washed Malaysians.
Generations have grown up singing the praises of the BN and it is not surprising that even today there are still those who continue to do so!
There is only one way to change all this and that is for the PR to take over the reigns of power. Once this happens, start revamping all the schools and sack all the journalists who had a hand in foisting half-truths or untruths on the people.
Lift the OSA and reveal all agreements that had been made by the BN. Take action against those who has been derelict in their duties.
Roll back all their policies.
In the meantime, you can take whatever action to enlighten those who are involved in this particular incident.
The recent electoral tsunami has shown that there are still many right minded people around, so you must not feel disheartened.

]]> By: Jameswong http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/22/first-world-infrastructure-first-world-mentality/comment-page-2/#comment-112216 Jameswong Mon, 23 Jun 2008 04:34:06 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/22/first-world-infrastructure-first-world-mentality/#comment-112216 this BN is abusing all the mechinery of the Government, we should seperate politic with education/sport. What else they cannot do !! They restrict the people elected rep to meet her people, that's is too much. But, we know Hannah is working hard to improve Subang Jaya, keep it up. this BN is abusing all the mechinery of the Government, we should seperate politic with education/sport.

What else they cannot do !! They restrict the people elected rep to meet her people, that’s is too much.

But, we know Hannah is working hard to improve Subang Jaya, keep it up.

]]> By: cheng on soo http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/22/first-world-infrastructure-first-world-mentality/comment-page-2/#comment-112215 cheng on soo Mon, 23 Jun 2008 04:33:46 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2008/06/22/first-world-infrastructure-first-world-mentality/#comment-112215 Aawilliam, Jong, That teacher coukd be under pressure from higher up. he/she may need to protect their rice bowl? Aawilliam, Jong, That teacher coukd be under pressure from higher up. he/she may need to protect their rice bowl?

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